I am a Captivate owner frustrated with the lack of Froyo 2.2 for the stock phone. I live in California, and you're liable to be ticketed if you drive with the phone in your hand. BlueTooth Voice Dial is a must as far as I am concerned.
OK, you can get ROMs hacked from the I9000 that have it, but the phone they're based on doesn't have the A1026 (Audience) noise cancellation chip, thus there's no support for noise cancellation which works respectably well in the stock Captivate.
Basically, you can get BTVD or noise cancellation, but not both in any one ROM as far as I can see. Even the Canadian Rogers Froyo release doesn't seem to contain a working BTVD ROM.
I am speculating that this might be the reason for the delay in AT&T's release of Froyo. Anyone want to confirm or deny that notion?
I feel the same way. I just need to make sure the leaked 2.2 from at&t does and I think i"ll be flashing to that.
The answer is very simple: custom ROMs are largely based on existing Samsung ROMs, official or leaked. No one is building ROM from scratch. So far, the only 2.2.1 ROMs leaked are i9000 ROMs. The only Captivate ROMs out there are 2.2 based which BT Voice Dial does not work. Only 2.2.1 ROMs can do BT Voice Dial.
That's way I always LOL at ppl's claim: who need official Froyo ROM from AT&T, we have custom ROMs here. Without official ROMs, you get zip for custom ROM.
There are also apps on the market that do the same thing on any version.
If I can't get Voice Dial along with the noise cancellation there really is no point updating for me.
Same thing as what?
Don't mean to be hypercritical, but the same thing as what? Noise cancellation, or voice dial over bluetooth? I've tried a bunch of ways to get voice dial over bluetooth with various apps, but it wasn't happening for me. The phone can voice dial from the speakermike but not through the headset. I'm not aware of any noise cancellation apps.
sixstringsg said:
There are also apps on the market that do the same thing on any version.
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Aha!
Thanks, knowing that the 2.2.1 ROM version is required helps.
Wonder what AT&T is going to release, 2.2 or 2.2.1...
And, yeah, I must admit to getting a little fed up with people who've been saying that the custom ROMs currently available solve all the problems with the phone. They don't.
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The answer is very simple: custom ROMs are largely based on existing Samsung ROMs, official or leaked. No one is building ROM from scratch. So far, the only 2.2.1 ROMs leaked are i9000 ROMs. The only Captivate ROMs out there are 2.2 based which BT Voice Dial does not work. Only 2.2.1 ROMs can do BT Voice Dial.
That's way I always LOL at ppl's claim: who need official Froyo ROM from AT&T, we have custom ROMs here. Without official ROMs, you get zip for custom ROM.
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2.2 ain't gonna cut it
Looks like we're not going to be happy with a 2.2 release. It had better be 2.2.1.
shoman94 said:
I feel the same way. I just need to make sure the leaked 2.2 from at&t does and I think i"ll be flashing to that.
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Funny how people say voice dial works on google voice search. It doesn't on mine...it does a google search every time.
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Don't mean to be hypercritical, but the same thing as what? Noise cancellation, or voice dial over bluetooth? I've tried a bunch of ways to get voice dial over bluetooth with various apps, but it wasn't happening for me. The phone can voice dial from the speakermike but not through the headset. I'm not aware of any noise cancellation apps.
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Both.... The hardware noise cancellation and voice dial over bluetooth.
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is the noise cancellation really that important? ive had some phones that it makes things worse.. choppy, cuts in and out.
or there are bt headsets with built-in noise cancellation if you really must have both.
Funny how people say voice dial works on google voice search. It doesn't on mine...it does a google search every time.
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People dont just say it. ITS AN ADVERTIZED FEATURE. even with the newest update. it dont work for me either.
Voice Search is great for inputting text into messages, getting directions and several other things. but still need voice DIALER to do this right.
The i9000 ROMs are better. And with voodoo sound this no longer is valid.
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It only works on speakerphone, AND you have to export your contacts to gmail and then sync them with your phone. THEN you can touch the mike icon and say Dial John Smith at Home, and it will go.
To export, go to Contacts, then menu, then export. Then with USB set to mass storage, copy the VCD file to your computer (or just treat it like an extra drive) and export it to gmail after logging into Gmail on your pc. Then sync via the phone. That will give you a fairly workable solution, as long as your phone is out in the open. It bugs me, because I often walk my dogs with a headset and the phone in a holster. I don't want to have to pull the phone out of the holster to make the call. It's much easier to tap the headset and use voice commands.
-nfs
shoman94 said:
Funny how people say voice dial works on google voice search. It doesn't on mine...it does a google search every time.
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Noise Cancellation is important to me
Noise cancellation is really important if you're trying to use your phone in a restaurant or bar. Of course, even then, it may not work if the background noise is overwhelming. Still it's a significant help. The noise cancellation built into the Captivate is actually much better than that of most phones.
Yes, headsets can handle the noise cancellation, and I have an excellent one for the job. While that's fine for driving, I don't always want to be wearing the thing. It's BIG. Only the big ones (Blue Parrot) are really worth anything for NC.
See post #13 in this thread for getting Voice Dialing to work with a stock phone. It's speakerphone only, but you can use it with a headset. The call will go through the headset once the call's been connected.
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Trusselo said:
is the noise cancellation really that important? ive had some phones that it makes things worse.. choppy, cuts in and out.
or there are bt headsets with built-in noise cancellation if you really must have both.
People dont just say it. ITS AN ADVERTIZED FEATURE. even with the newest update. it dont work for me either.
Voice Search is great for inputting text into messages, getting directions and several other things. but still need voice DIALER to do this right.
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I've tried vlingo and choice dialer, and they BOTH tell you you need 2.2 to do voice dial over bluetooth.
Since there's no native voice dial through bluetooth till 2.2.1, I am wondering still what specific application you are referring to that will accomplish that with a Captivate on 2.1??
-nfs
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Both.... The hardware noise cancellation and voice dial over bluetooth.
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I've tried vlingo and choice dialer, and they BOTH tell you you need 2.2 to do voice dial over bluetooth.
Since there's no native voice dial through bluetooth till 2.2.1, I am wondering still what specific application you are referring to that will accomplish that with a Captivate on 2.1??
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I was answering the other guy...... Those 2 features are want I want working. I've tried vlingo myself.... doesn't work.
What is no longer valid, and why do you say that?
Um, when chiming in, in the middle of a thread, with no quoted post to clarify what you're responding to, it would be helpful to make your point more clearly.
MikeyMike01 said:
The i9000 ROMs are better. And with voodoo sound this no longer is valid.
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Well, as the title states, Blue Ant Q1 paired with US HD2: Does it work with US HD2 as reported with other phones? The story is kinda funny and I'll tell it if asked but just main details for now.....
I was speaking with an *irrate* iPhone user who really is considering becoming an ex-iPhone user after introducing him to my HD2. He went into "research mode" and frantically tried to find shortcomings to convince me that I made a mistake in claiming the his device is no longer top dog in the world of hand held "Super Phones". In his rant, he finally had to admit, and I quote, "you're phone is the sh!t, you might make me switch...." long story short.
To his credit, I will admit, He brought up a "stumper" question that I have been trying to find the answer for. IS THERE A BT HEADSET THAT WILL ANNOUNCE INCOMING CALLS AND/OR PLAY CALLER ID RINGTONES WITH HD2 US? I had been trying to get my caller-id's to play through the headset since three phones ago. From what I have recently read, the Blue Ant Q1 announces the incoming caller's phone number in the BT and asks "would you like to answer or decline?" (or something to that degree) then waits for your response, as well as a few very useful voice commands such as "pair device" etc.......
Any one using this headset with HD2 that can shed some light?
If it matters, I am a US Tmobile customer using the new HD2
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I don't know about the Q1 but I have the Blueant V1 and the US HD2 and it announces for me. Don't see why the Q1 wouldn't either.
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I don't know about the Q1 but I have the Blueant V1 and the US HD2 and it announces for me. Don't see why the Q1 wouldn't either.
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Thanks. I read that also, but I believe the Q1 is newer. I don't know that one is better than the other. But at least I have a confirmation from one user.....YOU.
Does it announce the number? Contact name? Caller tone?
Update, Blue Ant just released a T1 Model which looks similar to the Q1. I have only read some specs. One major difference is that it is capable of announcing caller's NAME for incoming calls. Also it touts wind noise cancellation of 20+ miles per hour. I cannot find any pricing on it nor a vendor who offers it as of yet. On their website, Blue Ant shows the V1, Q1 and T1 in this category. I'm liking the Q1 for looks, price (although pricey), function and word-of-mouth (and reviews) ratings. Any additional input will benefit other users who find product in their choices.
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Blue Ant Q1 does, in fact, announce incoming calls by phone number while the phone plays the ringer and ringer ID. I just wish it would play my ringer IDs too. But at least I have audible caller id in one form.
Love my BlueAnt Q1
I used the BlueAnt Q1 with my HD2 and my iPhone 3Gs. When I receive and incoming call it does announce the number that is calling me but not the caller name. The BlueAnt also works perfectly and with MSVC. I can easily call people without having to take the phone out of my pocket. Simply press the button and say "Phone command." It will activate the phones built in voice command. Works flawlessly. Also if you update your BlueAnt Q1 with version 8.19 you can also stream music through A2DP which also works really well and sounds better on the HD2 than my iPhone 3Gs.
Side note. I once put my BlueAnt through the washer and dried and after all of that it still works and continues to work to this day with 0 issues. The BA is by far the best Bluetooth headset I have used on a phone. I highly recommend it.
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The BlueAnt also works perfectly and with MSVC. I can easily call people without having to take the phone out of my pocket. Simply press the button and say "Phone command." It will activate the phones built in voice command.
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I can't seem to MSVC to work with mine. Maybe you can give some insight. Is there an instruction posted somewhere?
Latest update is 8.21; I did the update yesterday.
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I can't seem to MSVC to work with mine. Maybe you can give some insight. Is there an instruction posted somewhere?
Latest update is 8.21; I did the update yesterday.
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nice thanks for the update on the BlueAnt Q1. I will update the BlueAnt to that version and let you know if I am still able to do it. I have version 8.19 now.
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No problem initiating microsoft voice command with the BlueAnt. Simply press the outside button and say "Phone command" It should tell you that it's initiating the phones built in voice command. If that doesn't work make sure the ROM you are using has it installed and enabled.
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If that doesn't work make sure the ROM you are using has it installed and enabled.
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I'm not sure if MSVC is in my phone. I can't locate it. I am using stock/shipped ROM from TMOUS.
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I'm not sure if MSVC is in my phone. I can't locate it. I am using stock/shipped ROM from TMOUS.
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Here is a .cab file for you. credit to NRGZ28
it will install in Settings > Personal. Make sure it's enabled there and then try again.
BTW the firmware update for the Q1 signigicantly improves the sound quality on the device.
AllTheWay said:
Here is a .cab file for you. credit to NRGZ28
it will install in Settings > Personal. Make sure it's enabled there and then try again.
BTW the firmware update for the Q1 signigicantly improves the sound quality on the device.
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Thanks, AllTheWay, and congrats on the upgrade. It helped mine too, but it's getting tired and quirky. I'm looking forward to the release of the T1.
As it turns out, MSVC v1.6.21889 came installed in the stock ROM. I'm not sure how to use it with Q1 though. Maybe I will wait til the T1 is available since I plan on giving it a try.
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As it turns out, MSVC v1.6.21889 came installed in the stock ROM. I'm not sure how to use it with Q1 though. Maybe I will wait til the T1 is available since I plan on giving it a try.
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Like I said pair up your Q1 with your phone. Push the outside button on the Q1. say "Phone command" and MSVC will start. You will hear a beep, then you can say "call (contact name)" or "dial (phone number). you can also say things like "what time is it" "what is my signal strength."
etc.
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Like I said pair up your Q1 with your phone. Push the outside button on the Q1. say "Phone command" and MSVC will start. You will hear a beep, then you can say "call (contact name)" or "dial (phone number). you can also say things like "what time is it" "what is my signal strength."
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Must be me......does not seem to work. I'll play with it some to see if I need to tweak something.
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Must be me......does not seem to work. I'll play with it some to see if I need to tweak something.
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Well, Duh, DUH, Duh on me. I obviously can't read. When you type quotation marks around something, it does mean ........ any how, I pressed the blue ant button and was failing to say "phone command" which is the activation for MSVC, DOH!! Tweak found. Well it was me and not my device. Now the only thing I need to accomplish is getting the ringtones to play into the headset.
Thanks for clearing that part up for me.
So I installed nettalk voip app on my tablet it installs but it has the same issues with voice calling with fring. I mean this app would be great for us G tablet users cause we lack phone cababilities. What needs to be fixed so this app would work flawlessly? I would love to use this app cause its like the magicjack of android... Well until magicjack releases there android app which they stated it would be released in september of this year
I tried sipdroid and imsdroid. Neither work.
Also stremfurious doesn't work. It keeps reporting broken pipe and freezing.
It's like the network is going up and down, or the connection status is not being reported properly.
Voip Gtablet
I have Skype and IAXagent working, but unable to get audio to my bluetooth headset.
very possible @op. install sipdroid and let it make you a new pbxes automagically and have gv installed. i treated my viewsonic like a project and first testing requirement was "could i make and receive calls?" well i got swype plus mic and call and recieve working...but the software was still horrible. i couldnt beleive that a device like a giant epic(sgstabby) could massacre my tegra2tabby by way of speed and sheer quickness...working on phone call and receive now for my galaxy tab and i couldnt be happier....amazing what software can do...this tabby will be awesome if it gets enough dev but as it stands its going to be overlooked just because of the crap software...i used all custom roms and none had the performance of STOCK s g tabby....i hate samsung and i looked forward to this device for so long...rather disappointing...glad i purchased at staples with no restock fee
Humm, my sipdroid works just dandy... using sipgate, sipsorcery, Google voice..
Sidebar, in sipdroid you must hit menu>speaker to hear anything.. I've also found within sipdroid in landscape mode the keyboard "enter" button actually starts the call
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I have Skype and IAXagent working, but unable to get audio to my bluetooth headset.
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+1 Skype works fine for me. I have a Skype number and the $2.99 unlimited US/Can calls. I can receive and make calls. I use my phone headset and it works perfectly.
Ok, so I got a Galaxy Tablet (Sprint) from BestBuy, and plan to use it only with WiFi.
I was searching around and discovered Sipdriod as a possible app to make calls over WiFi with my G Tab, but when I try to place a call I get the message "Cannot make or take a call using the Galaxy Tab."
Anyone know why this is?
I read above that Sipdroid won't work, but I am wondering why. I mean is this a limitation Sprint has put on their G Tabs? Is it some limitation Samsung built in?
It just doesn't make sense to me that I can have an Android app that should be able to make a call over WiFi, but the G Tab is restricted.
I have a moto droid which is no longer active with Verizon(that $30 a month was getting to be a bit much) and would like to use google voice to make calls. On install, it gives an option to use google voice for calls, but when I actually try to make one it routes me to Verizon's "we're sorry, this phone isn't in service" message.
I understand that this isn't really the intended use, but I can use google talk to make a call from my PC, why will it not let me use the same service from my droid. Is this a quirk of the device or a limitation from Verizon or google?
I'm using the latest Bugless Beast, if it makes a difference, though I have also tried with CM7 build 3 and CM 6.1.2.
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Ah, nevermind. I figured it out myself. This is not possible with google voice alone, but I grabbed Sipdroid off the market. When paired with a google voice account(set to ring to gtalk as well as any other phone numbers) works rather well as a wifi phone. There is a bit of a delay sometimes in making a call, but no serious problems. call quality is quite good.
Just got a Captivate and I whenever I make or receive calls there's a loud interference crackling sound like an old internet modem UNLESS I set the phone to SPEAKERPHONE. I can make the call and I can hear the other person but it's almost impossible to understand anything the sound is so bad if I don't set the phone to speakerphone.
I've tested skype just to be sure it's not speaker related and I could hear and speak perfectly.
If I play a music or a movie the sound is perfect though.
I've tried a bunch of different roms, modems and carriers to no effect.
ROMs that were tested
CyanogenMod-7.1.0-Captivate, I897UCKF1, I897UCKE3, stock Froyo, Continuum, Mosaic, Milky´s i9000 GB ROM (no interference crackling noise during calls at all, but people could hear me and I could not hear the people. If I plug in the headphone I can hear but I hear with the interference crackling noise. If I press the speakerphone I can hear everything perfectly).
Modems that were tested (via odin AND CWM): kb1, ke3, kh3, kj3, kk2, jl1, kk1, kk2, jh7, kk4, jh2, kf1, jh2, ji6, jj4, kb1, js1, jv6, jpd, jpg, zsjpg
Reflash modem without USB plugged in.
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Reflash modem without USB plugged in
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Tried that but at this point I'm thinking it's a problem with the mic/speakers.
Why did you start another thread for the exact same thing?
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Why did you start another thread for the exact same thing?
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I've requested the Mods to close the other one so that I could sum everything up here and increase my chances of actually getting some help. BTW, could you please delete your post to keep this thread clean? I will delete my post too.
If it isnt a rom/modem/kernel issue then its hardware. In wich case not many ppl would know how to fix it. I would recommend talking to the seller of the phone or maybe (depending on the age of it) comunicating with samsung for the 1 year warranty thing.
I've tested skype just to be sure it's not speaker related and I could hear and speak perfectly...so I guess at least this rules out hardware malfunction.
Do you guys think it could be something with the dialer?
IMPORTANT DEVELOPMENTS! I've tested making and receiving calls with the speakerphone on and I can hear and be heard perfectly! It's only when I make or receive calls with the normal settings that the issue occurs.
Odin one click back to stock Froyo. Don't change your modem, restore any settings, or do anything else but turn the phone on. If it still sounds like crap, it is a hardware problem. If it sounds good, it's something you're doing after the install.
Agreed. At a minimum, factory reset the phone from the settings (backup any data before).
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Odin one click back to stock Froyo. Don't change your modem, restore any settings, or do anything else but turn the phone on. If it still sounds like crap, it is a hardware problem. If it sounds good, it's something you're doing after the install.
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Odin one click back to stock Froyo. Don't change your modem, restore any settings, or do anything else but turn the phone on. If it still sounds like crap, it is a hardware problem. If it sounds good, it's something you're doing after the install.
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It doesn't make sense that I can hear perfectly when in speakerphone and while making skype calls...both use the same hardware.
Could this be carrier related? Even though I have full reception bars when I try to find available carriers it finds all the main ones except mine (VIVO), and it finds a number instead (72411).
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It doesn't make sense that I can hear perfectly when in speakerphone and while making skype calls...both use the same hardware.
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That's not entirely true. If it is your earpiece that has failed, it would still sound fine on speakerphone because it is using the speaker on the back, not the one on the earpiece.
It could be your carrier. I assume you're using the right SIM card for your carrier?
As an aside, jumping from thread to thread is making it unbelievably difficult to help you. Please just start a thread and stick with it so those of us trying to help you actually have the information we need to do so. I understand that you think that you are helping us by summarizing the facts, but what you really are doing is getting rid of valuable information that people are trying to use to figure out your problem. Info that you may not think was important (like the fact that you are in Brazil) could actually be the key to figuring it out.
Are you running CM7?
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That's not entirely true. If it is your earpiece that has failed, it would still sound fine on speakerphone because it is using the speaker on the back, not the one on the earpiece.
It could be your carrier. I assume you're using the right SIM card for your carrier?
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I've tested making skype calls and I could hear and be heard perfectly. That is why I was assuming it was not my earpiece.
I've tested 2 SIM cards from my carrier. Since the phone is unlocked I will try to test a SIM from another carrier to see if the issue persists...though if it's carrier related I'm not sure what I could do.
I'm not using CM7, but I did try it out.
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I'm not using CM7, but I did try it out.
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Well there goes my theory then.
Bump..............
I have tried SIM cards from 2 other carries and even though the phone had service the sound issue persisted.
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I have tried SIM cards from 2 other carries and even though the phone had service the sound issue persisted.
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If it persists through flashes to stock and over multiple carriers, I would suspect it's a hardware issue, unless someone has any other ideas.
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Although... you could try playing with the frequency bands to see if it gives you better results. On stock, I believe it is *#2263# (if that doesn't work, search around for band selection). This should take you to the band selection screen, which will give you the ability to manually select which frequency bands you are using. You could try different bands to see if it gives you access to something better.
What I really don´t understand is how come this problem doesn´t happen when I make calls with skype (since it uses the same hardware). This is what really makes me perplex about this problem.
Because skype uses the data network and phone calls use the voice network. Also, phone calls would use your audience chip, while skype wouldn't (I don't think anyway). If it's hardware, my suspicion is that you have an audience chip problem. This sounds like the same issue you get when you flash an i897 modem on an i9000 ROM, presumably because the modem is expecting the audience chip but it's not working.
What made me think it was a band issue was that you can't see your carrier with your carrier's SIM in. This would point to your phone not seeing your carrier's frequency band.
If you sort that out and still have static, next you could try flashing an i9000-based ROM (pretty much any GB ROM but Pinnacle, Cognition, or Illuminance) and try that. i9000 ROMs don't use the audience chip at all, so if that is the issue it won't matter.
I am having quite a bit of trouble with the new Hangouts Dialer. The audio is terrible on both WiFi and LTE. Every other word will come through sometimes, but most times, I will only hear one or two words out of an entire sentence. It is really quite frustrating that I have to use the terrible stock LG dialer.
Has anyone else had this issue?
I am running stock rooted 4.4.2. Any help would be great.
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I am having quite a bit of trouble with the new Hangouts Dialer. The audio is terrible on both WiFi and LTE. Every other word will come through sometimes, but most times, I will only hear one or two words out of an entire sentence. It is really quite frustrating that I have to use the terrible stock LG dialer.
Has anyone else had this issue?
I am running stock rooted 4.4.2. Any help would be great.
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The hangouts dialer is routing your calls through Google Voice via VoIP.
If the stock LG dialer bothers you that much, some people have reported being able to install the stock google AOSP on our roms, your other option is root the phone and install an AOSP rom...
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The hangouts dialer is routing your calls through Google Voice via VoIP.
If the stock LG dialer bothers you that much, some people have reported being able to install the stock google AOSP on our roms, your other option is root the phone and install an AOSP rom...
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Well, I understand that. I am using the Hangouts dialer to use the VoIP in low service/dead zones where WiFi is available.
BUMP
I am still having trouble with this darn app. I would really like to use this instead of the LG dialer. People complain of echo, when I hear them, and on my end the audio is always cutting out.
I know it isn't my phone because I just got a replacement. I thought maybe it had to do with being rooted, but that doesn't seem to be the case either because I tried before I rooted my replacement device.
Does anyone have any input, suggestions, or information regarding this issue? I can't be the only one with this problem...
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