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ALK to release CoPilot 7 GPS for WM6 next week

I spoke with ALK today. They should have the new version (7) up on their website by the end of next week. They are currently taking preorders. If anyone is interested in preordering or have questions about the product, you call them at 888-872-8768 x210 or send an email at [email protected] . I preordered my copy last month for my TyTN II and I'm excited to try it out an review it for the other forum members
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Here is what is new in CoPilot Live :
New map display with colorful 2D/3D maps, 3D points of interest icons, and powerful zoom capabilities.
New smoother map movement more natural and realistic location and movement on-screen.
New user-selectable color themes and map styles including industry-standard map styles
New Route preview -now you can review and experience an entire trip before you drive
New natural voice directions in 14 languages provide clearer turn instructions
New Points of Interest database easily find the nearest gas station, restaurant or hotel with over 6 million choices including phone numbers.
New walking, cycling and motorcycle routing options provide guidance suited to the pedestrian motorcyclist or cyclist, ignoring vehicle restrictions where appropriate.
New CoPilot® Central™ desktop software. CoPilot Central makes easy to plan a trip, download maps, points of interest and other content to CoPilot Live on your device.
Redesigned, non-distracting Driver Safety view including additional display options of 2D or 3D map near a turn
Improved detour function - with more information provided to help find the best alternative route around unexpected roadblocks and traffic.
Latest maps of North America including over 600 counties updated and over 100,000 miles of new road
Simplified user interface with large finger-touch buttons and intuitive menus. CoPilot Live is easier to use than ever before
Simplified address entry with more choice, fewer steps and predictive address searching.
Improved real-time traffic enabled nationwide
Improved routing engine with additional personalized profiles and scenic routing
One software version for Windows Devices with support for Pocket PC 2003, Windows Mobile 6 and 5.0 devices
Live Tracking as standard
In addition to satellite navigation, CoPilot Live 7 also provides real-time tracking using a connected phone or Pocket PC’s built-in mobile Internet connection. Friends, family or colleagues will be able to monitor your progress, send you messages and even new destinations in real time, wherever you are, via the internet

...and here is what it looks like on the Kaiser, very smooth graphics at 10FPS !
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
We have a thread about it here http://www.gpspassion.com/forumsen/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=80008

Any news about pricing? CoPilot is relatively more expensive than TomTom. Is it worth shelling out more (if that is the case) considering we already have TomTom on the Tytn II and 'only' need the maps?

CoPilot 7 not working ... no fun!
I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.

kahibbi said:
I just got the CoPilot Live 7 software and I've tried everything possible to get it to work and nothing. I copied the 2GB microSD contents over to my 6GB card and executed an autorun and nothing. Tried again and launched the .cab file and nothing. Hooked it up to the laptop and installed the software from there saving it to the storage care ... nothing. I uninstalled between each load attempts and absolutely nothing. I don't want to put it on the phone as it runs from their dang SD card, so why won't it run from mine? Has to be some kind of proprietary thing or a bug. I don't want to load it on the main memory as I'm runing out. I've used CoPilot since version 3 and have always saved it onto the card.
If anyone can help, I'd greatly appreciate it.
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Where did you get it from?

Initial Impressions of CoPilot 7
I know there have been many discussions regarding GPS SW here & elsewhere. I have been looking for GPS mapping SW that; 1- is resident on the Tilt, 2 - capable of obtaining maps for all of NA, Europe & Austraila, 3 - does not require a live Internet connection, but will use it if available to provide U.S. city traffic & other services and 4 does not require a monthly subscription fee.
Based on various discussions, I had pre-ordered the new version of CoPilot 7 under the 30 day return policy. They were very good during the order process, answering my questions promptly. The SW arrived on Friday 11/9. I installed it & spent the last 2 days out using it around Colorado. Here are my initial impressions...
Installation:
Copied the files from their uSD card to my 6GB uSD. Plugged the card in & the install went without problem. It found the Tilt GPS without any configuration. (I'm also running / testing VisualGPS, GPSGate, Google Maps on this Tilt) I also installed the PC version of CoPilot for planning. This also went in w/o problem.
Operation:
As a relatively knowledgeable user, I always attempt to use the product w/o reading any manual. This tells me how intuitive the operation is & I use that as a measurement on how well it was designed. On this count, I was less than impressed. The UI at first touch was not intutitve. This changed a little over time & by following the tips at startup. I like the voice directions, but miss the voice not naming the up-coming street name for the turn.
One major thing I noticed is that the lookup of POIs is very slow & sometimes didn't find things like major airports (Denver's DIA) or attractions (Mount Evans & Pikes Peak) properly.
Operation of the PC-based planning SW was also not intuitive. I finally figured it out, but it could use work. Double clicks were used when a single click selection was more intutitive.
On the plus side, after I got a couple of trips planned, they executed almost flawlessly. When I deviated from the planned route, the SW re-routed quickly and gave relatively good voice directions for the change.
Maps:
They seem like they may be a little out of date. They placed the GPS location of my house in the correct place physically, but in the wrong city by name. Some of the routing provided by the system attempts to take me through a street in my area that is permenently closed & has been for 2 years. When attempting to load a destination address, and the street in not in the map DB, it will not allow loading of the destination. This was a street in IL that has been there for at least 2 years.
Considering the competition:
I'm not into TeleNav as I don't want to pay by the month and I need maps outside the US w/o a large data bill. I don't feel like I want to be nickled & dimed on the cost of maps like some of the other products. I do want to be able to receive traffic updates for the U.S. The maps & SW must be able to be put on my card now & in the future as they get larger and not locked to the Vendors uSD card (Garmin).
Concludions:
Will I keep CoPilot? I'm not sure yet. Compared to what's out there, I might be able to get used to the UI. I wish they provided a way to give feedback on the map errors & allow more rapid fixes to be downloaded.
Sorry for the long-winded post. I'm going to keep using this for a while & I expect that as I become more familiar with the UI, the experiance should get better.
A quick additional note... CoPilot does have an on-line feedback mechinism for errors in maps. I will be driving my area to document the changes. Still not sure how long it will take to get the updates into the maps.
Thanks & please anyone else out there with any experiances? I'm looking to compare notes before my 30 days is up.

clove.co.uk have it in stock and selling it for £79.90
http://www.clove.co.uk/viewProduct.aspx?product=DB4D6BD5-6B99-4E02-9CD0-FD52074A1D91

I received mine directly from CopPilot. I am a long time user of the product and get email notifications. www.copilotgps.com

jskoller said:
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Thanks & please anyone else out there with any experiances? I'm looking to compare notes before my 30 days is up.
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Just wondering, I bought mine directly from CoPilot's website. Where do they mention the 30 day return policy? I might return mine since it is missing Text-2-Speech functionality.
- TKN

RSS / Today screen -- comments

Short version: could someone please recommend an RSS reader that
(1) shows a list clickable unread items in its Today screen plugin (not a scrolling line, but an actual proper list of items, like 10 lines or so)
(2) can auto-update the content (without me having to click anything manually)
Long version:
I was looking for an RSS reader that can show a long list of unread items on the Today screen, so that I can immediately see if anything is interesting, and click to read if I like. I have enough screen space, so I don't want to use a scrolling line.
I found only one reader so far that can show the item list -- Spb Insight. I can tell it how many items I want to see, so I'm very happy with this plugin. Unforunately, Spb Insight has one major shortcoming, which makes it unusable for me: it cannot auto-update the content. I actually have to start the software and tell it to refresh. Many people asked for the auto-update feature on Spb's forums, but it seems the Insight team stopped the development of this product (last update was in early 2007).
I then tried two other excellent readers: Egress and Newsreader. Egress unfortunately only shows a scrolling line on the Today screen, and cannot display a full list of items. Newsreader's plugin is simply worthless: it shows the number of unread items (like I care).
A6.time was a promising product, but the developer shut down last month.
PocketRSS has been abandoned as well, with the last update in June 2006.
Any help much appreciated.

[Ask] RSS Feed - Offline News Reading Software

Hi hi
I'm quite new with this RSS stuff and was wondering if there're software (preferably freeware) out there that would automatically download subscribed RSS feeds INCLUDING the full content (linked) by the feeds. Basically, I don't want to manually click on the link to get the full content.
Ideally this is what I need:
1. Sync & charge my kaiser at night.
2. At 7am morning (while Kaiser is connected with ActiveSync & Internet),automatically download latest RSS feeds.
3. When I leave home, I'd have my Kaiser loaded with current news.
4. In the train, I would open the RSS reader, and see all the headlines, when I click on the headlines.. I get full content of the news (ie. not just the header/summary) opened through Opera/PIE.
Any helps/comments/suggestions are appreciated.
Thanks in advance

Personally I use SPB insight, does exactly what you want, downloads the full content and not just a header, spb insight apparently works with special channels, for the full news, so I don't know if your channels would be included, tho all the major ones do.

I use "RSS Hub" - do a search here for it and you will find it. It is free and does what you want.

eskostar said:
Personally I use SPB insight, does exactly what you want, downloads the full content and not just a header, spb insight apparently works with special channels, for the full news, so I don't know if your channels would be included, tho all the major ones do.
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I've tried it, but as you said, it doesn't download the full news (for the channel that I'm intrested in - NZ Herald), just title, summary, & links.

jrd said:
I use "RSS Hub" - do a search here for it and you will find it. It is free and does what you want.
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Have tried this as well, again, it only downloads title, header, & link.. not the full content (what's behind the link) from the source.

Have you tried Egress? I have used it for a very long time. I tried others but always came back to egress. It can be found at www.garishkernels.com. I think you can have it download the full article, but have not investigated the feature.

the issue is probably not with the reader itself, but with the feeds. Most news agencies will only publish the header in the feed because they want the advertising money.
If anyone has recomendations for news feeds that are full text I would be really interested.
I personally use Newsbreak, I have tried RSS Hub and Egress, but neither worked as well with all of the podcasts I download. Specifically with Buzz out loud these two would have to actually access the article to download, whereas newsbreak automatically downloads all podcasts I grab.
Otherwise Ive only really found blogs that give full text, I do wish CNNm etc would switch to full text feeds.
Cheers
Matt

[Q] Using the Nook Color for School

Hey! This forum is awesome, but you guys already know that. I'm starting a new semester at college after this winter break and want to consolidate all my work into a single device (I went the first 3 semesters not carrying anything on me because I hate to hold stuff). I do need to know if it can handle the job, rooting enabled capabilities are acceptable too, I almost exclusively use ubuntu and while I've never owned an Android device before, I'm sure it will be familiar enough.
Here is what I need, Could you tell me if it can do It
-PEAP Authentication Capabilities
-PDF Viewer (preferably with bookmarking, commenting capabilities)
-Some sort of handwritten note taking application (I'm fine wearing a glove with capacitive stylus)
-Can it switch between a notepad and PDF viewer (multi-tasking?)
Things I don't need but would help
-RDP for my campus' cloud
-Access to driver for touchscreen, something similar to synclient for touchpads in linux.
I'm a C/Basic/Python/Java programmer that recently started playing with eclipse's android sdk, sufficiently convince me to buy this and you might get something out of me , thanks for any help.

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all of your questions could be answered by doing a bit of looking.
Does the nook color have a pdf viewer?
Seriously?

lanfearl said:
all of your questions could be answered by doing a bit of looking.
Does the nook color have a pdf viewer?
Seriously?
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I can't find info on PEAP and I can't find any info on the extent of PDF viewing capabilities (Bookmarking/Commenting Capabilities) which is important in a classroom. But thanks for your help, I can see at least 1/3 of your posts are douchey. On many forums this is a typically frowned upon means of increasing post count, I'm sure this forum is no different.

PEAP - http://www.google.com/support/forum/p/android/thread?tid=36dabddba0ba6162&hl=en
PDF - It's a viewer only... it won't edit. As far as I know there isn't a PDF editor for Android. But there are others, Documents To Go has an office suite with a PDF viewer that should incorporate most of your required functions.
Handwriting - I'm sure there are some apps in any of the alternative app stores (the official Google one isn't as of yet working)
Multitasking - Yes, just find yourself a task manager in the app stores.
RDP - Yes, find a client in the alternative app stores.
Synclient - No clue....
Now, all the above having been said, I will give you that at first glance the answer you received might come off as smug. However, there are lots of threads in these boards that discuss pretty much everything you've asked for. What isn't covered in these boards can be found with simple Google searches. Remember, this is an Android device, somewhat stripped down but Android OS nonetheless. So most everything that works for Android will work for this as well. Just need to root this.
And no need to be a ****. lanfearl is only comparing you to the multitude of other new members who are looking for a magic wand approach without taking the time to do their own research. You, sadly, fall into this exact category.

devis said:
Remember, this is an Android device, somewhat stripped down but Android OS nonetheless. So most everything that works for Android will work for this as well. Just need to root this.
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There are many things missing, especially on the hardware library side. Many frameworks have been scrapped, others have permissions changed and settings have been either removed or hidden.
DON'T think you can extrapolate from Android's functionality to this device's functionality. Some applications just won't install or won't start. Some report a reason, others just don't install... "nope, I don't work. kthxbye."
Vorgle's questions are quite valid:
I have no idea if PEAP actually works on the NOOKcolor. Considering that you cannot access a lot of the Wifi menus that Android usually offers, linking to instructions for the Nexus one doesn't necessarily help. And it certainly hasn't been discussed prominently on these boards.
There currently are no PDF readers with all the functionality asked for by Vorgle. Documents To Go offers bookmarks (some other readers do too I believe) but there is no reader with commenting / annotation support.
So I don't see why he should get snarky replies.

ixampl said:
There are many things missing, especially on the hardware library side. Many frameworks have been scrapped, others have permissions changed and settings have been either removed or hidden.
DON'T think you can extrapolate from Android's functionality to this device's functionality. Some applications just won't install or won't start. Some report a reason, others just don't install... "nope, I don't work. kthxbye."
Vorgle's questions are quite valid:
I have no idea if PEAP actually works on the NOOKcolor. Considering that you cannot access a lot of the Wifi menus that Android usually offers, linking to instructions for the Nexus one doesn't necessarily help. And it certainly hasn't been discussed prominently on these boards.
There currently are no PDF readers with all the functionality asked for by Vorgle. Documents To Go offers bookmarks (some other readers do too I believe) but there is no reader with commenting / annotation support.
So I don't see why he should get snarky replies.
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He's getting snarky replies because he doesn't seem to have done any research at all and is coming here looking for all possible answers. For someone computer savvy (note the various programming languages he claims to know) he should know better. Do your own research, then come ask the questions you didn't find answers to. Such as PDF for example. he doesn't seem to even know the NC supports PDF, let alone all of the functions he's looking for. Something as simple as that is easily obtained by reading the device's specs! And they're even in the FAQs!

Thanks ixampl. I put my computer background hoping people would simply believe me and infer I had specific reasons for asking the questions I did, rather than explaining the reason behind every question to get the help I need. I really wasn't wanting to make enemies here, I hate starting off like this but it is necessary for me to know. I need to be sure of some things before I spend the money, or if I should look elsewhere at other tablets (or e-readers).
But Here They Are:
-PEAP Authentication Capabilities:
I've seen a tutorial for the nook with no confirmation from any source on the net that it actually works, from what I've read it isn't native.
-PDF Viewer:
Because All my Books are in PDF, obvious. However, no PDF capabilities are listed on B&N (just that it will view), or any other app store I can access via my computer. I've never owned an android device, and I frequently use Adobe Pro to edit and annotate my books.
-Some sort of handwritten note taking application:
I've seen something close to this in a market clone, but it was advertised as supplemental to keyboard based notes; too slow for a lecture. If there is something like dasher for Android that will work on the Nook Color, I'm fairly adept with it, and that would suffice. There is a Dasher beta for Android, but it is spotty on devices it was meant for, no idea what would happen on nook.
-Can it switch between a notepad and PDF viewer (multi-tasking?):
I've seen no documentation on multi-tasking capabilities for the Nook Color. I can't assume what works on other android devices will work on the nook, it is too highly modified (as pointed out by ixampl) to just infer this on a specifically necessary requirement of mine. I think the market would be nice on the nook too, that works on other android devices, it certainly works on the... oh wait, no it doesn't.
-RDP for my campus' cloud:
Valid enough, I think. I know some exist, but I was expecting: "don't bother, they're unusable". I don't know, I asked.
-Access to driver for touchscreen, something similar to synclient for touchpads in linux:
To restate, I want the ability to modify the touchscreen driver for the nook, allowing me to drastically change the sensitivity, I have hotkeys on my laptop to do this in linux; it would be nice to mess with the driver on the nook. This would allow me to display a technology on a portable tablet device that just isn't as impressive on a laptop. I didn't/still don't expect to get an answer on this one.
Thanks, and I'm sorry if I have caused any confusion or come across as a noob to google. I used to use lmgtfy too for "stupid" questions. Then I realized it was kind of rude; especially since once elaborated on, I often found there were legitimate reasons the questions were asked.

I think the Nook Color is not the right device for your needs. An iPad has apps for editing pdfs and everything else you've asked for. Another option would be the Dell Inspiron Mini Duo that was just released.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
vorgle said:
Thanks ixampl. I put my computer background hoping people would simply believe me and infer I had specific reasons for asking the questions I did, rather than explaining the reason behind every question to get the help I need. I really wasn't wanting to make enemies here, I hate starting off like this but it is necessary for me to know. I need to be sure of some things before I spend the money, or if I should look elsewhere at other tablets (or e-readers).
But Here They Are:
-PEAP Authentication Capabilities:
I've seen a tutorial for the nook with no confirmation from any source on the net that it actually works, from what I've read it isn't native.
-PDF Viewer:
Because All my Books are in PDF, obvious. However, no PDF capabilities are listed on B&N (just that it will view), or any other app store I can access via my computer. I've never owned an android device, and I frequently use Adobe Pro to edit and annotate my books.
-Some sort of handwritten note taking application:
I've seen something close to this in a market clone, but it was advertised as supplemental to keyboard based notes; too slow for a lecture. If there is something like dasher for Android that will work on the Nook Color, I'm fairly adept with it, and that would suffice. There is a Dasher beta for Android, but it is spotty on devices it was meant for, no idea what would happen on nook.
-Can it switch between a notepad and PDF viewer (multi-tasking?):
I've seen no documentation on multi-tasking capabilities for the Nook Color. I can't assume what works on other android devices will work on the nook, it is too highly modified (as pointed out by ixampl) to just infer this on a specifically necessary requirement of mine. I think the market would be nice on the nook too, that works on other android devices, it certainly works on the... oh wait, no it doesn't.
-RDP for my campus' cloud:
Valid enough, I think. I know some exist, but I was expecting: "don't bother, they're unusable". I don't know, I asked.
-Access to driver for touchscreen, something similar to synclient for touchpads in linux:
To restate, I want the ability to modify the touchscreen driver for the nook, allowing me to drastically change the sensitivity, I have hotkeys on my laptop to do this in linux; it would be nice to mess with the driver on the nook. This would allow me to display a technology on a portable tablet device that just isn't as impressive on a laptop. I didn't/still don't expect to get an answer on this one.
Thanks, and I'm sorry if I have caused any confusion or come across as a noob to google. I used to use lmgtfy too for "stupid" questions. Then I realized it was kind of rude; especially since once elaborated on, I often found there were legitimate reasons the questions were asked.
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Documents To Go 2.0 - for editing viewing pdfs, along with the ability to open other types of documents.
Note Everything - For note taking both typing and stylus input.

[APP]Mango - Tiny eBook Reader

Name: Tiny eBook Reader, Mango release.
Tiny eBook Reader allows you to read eBooks with the formatting you choose. We've put most of the features that were in the Windows Mobile version and made a Windows Phone 7 reader. We've taken the lastest submission to Marketplace (it's still going through testing) and compiled it for Mango.
It has most of the fixes that will be in the NoDo Marketplace version, but is compiled for 7.1 beta 2 and uses Mango extended Back tile.
Pin the app and it will display the last opened eBook on the back of the tile.
Another app to show off the cool new features of Mango.
Any bugs, feedback, please email using address in app About, and put MANGO in the subject.
{
"lightbox_close": "Close",
"lightbox_next": "Next",
"lightbox_previous": "Previous",
"lightbox_error": "The requested content cannot be loaded. Please try again later.",
"lightbox_start_slideshow": "Start slideshow",
"lightbox_stop_slideshow": "Stop slideshow",
"lightbox_full_screen": "Full screen",
"lightbox_thumbnails": "Thumbnails",
"lightbox_download": "Download",
"lightbox_share": "Share",
"lightbox_zoom": "Zoom",
"lightbox_new_window": "New window",
"lightbox_toggle_sidebar": "Toggle sidebar"
}
(these are screencaps from the emulator, with photo book backgrounds.)
Download Link:
*This will not run on NoDo devices*
Anyone interested in playing with this version of Tiny eBook Reader for Mango you can download the XAP here:
http://www.goldencrater.com/Tiny_eBook_Reader-Mango.xap
Of course, "since only registered developers have Mango", you'll know how to sideload the app. And, until Marketplace starts accepting Mango verisons for submission...
Enjoy!!

Nice, I'll give that a shot tomorrow. I have already tried the version that's available on the marketplace, but opening a book always results in a sudden close of the app. Could be related to the mango beta, so with this new build I'll find out if that's the case or not.
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Even with the new version I still can't read any books.

Woow great application. Can't wait for newer version.

which formats your app support?
I need reading prc format, can it read that format?

@dkp1977 : thanks for working back and forth with us to get those bugs out of the code!
@biper4x4 : thanks.
@dalmate : You can't read PRC directly. The converter we have will soon support .ePub. However, using the site below, you can convert PRC to LIT and then drop the LIT into the converter tool that will drop the book onto your Dropbox account for you. A 2 step process, I know. Not ideal, but we're working on adding more formats.
http://www.convertfiles.com/convert/ebook/EPUB-to-LIT.html

koornneef said:
@dkp1977 : thanks for working back and forth with us to get those bugs out of the code!
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You're welcome. I'm enjoying using Tiny eBook Reader. Gotta find out though on which step all the umlauts get lost. Either it happens when converting from ePub to LIT (which I currently do with Calibre) or with the Tiny eBook Converter tool.

Update available.
Update to the Mango beta of Tiny eBook Reader with all the fixes and changes made in the Marketplace (NoDo) version.
Same URL as above.
Also updates Dropbox, Coding4Fun, and a few other DLLs for Mango compatibility -- so all the prompt and password boxes should work again without crashing.
Now supports the back-tile (as before) and fast task switching.
Again, this version is MANGO only. It's also the pubCenter supported (free) version.
You can play this version 'till December. By then, Mango should be out (for everyone but out AT&T Focus!)
BIG thanks to all those submitting problem reports, files that don't work, and general comments!
ePub conversion is causing grief. Keep finding files that don't work. Sorry if it's taking a bit, but better to get it right than buggy!
Have a good one!

so what format works best with the reader? i can convert my files, but would like to know what would be best to convert to?

The Windows Phone 7 version takes only .TeBR format directly.
The short answer is: If you can download a LIT file directly, go for that file and open it in the Converter.
Most formats compress as a stream, and so become slow near the end of a large book. TeBR format is uses chunkified compression to provide fast response even in very large books.
The converter program will best convert .LIT files into TeBR with Table of Contents, Cover Image, etc. all intact. That c++ code for LIT has been in the Windows Mobile version of the Reader for years and is pretty robust and stable.
In fact, you should be able to 'Open' a LIT file via File Explorer or Internet Explorer and it will open in the converter, convert and arrive in your DropBox.
But you can also build a book by dropping several HTML or TXT files into the converter. It will treat each file as a chapter in the Table of Contents. Drop a PNG or JPG as the first item and that will be the cover image.
FictionBook (FB2) is the least supported and converts the text and contents only. No images.
When ePub is (finally) supported, it should be on par with LIT files.

Hi koornneef,
the app is really nice but not so the lit-tebr converter (I presume that the problem is the converter).
I'm Italian thus in my language there are a lot of chars like à, ò, ù, etc. and they are not visible (accented vowels are replaced by spaces) in the final converted ebook.
Thanks

Hi keres7
We've come across a few ways that the text in LIT files are encoded.. Maybe a new one, or we broke the code somewhere.
If it's possible, could you send a copy of one of the LIT files to support at
info
@
goldencrater.com
I'll get one of the guys to take a look at it. If you're having a problem, then others are too.
thanks!

koornneef, I sent to the email indicated two LIT files.
Let me know if you have received them and if you are experiencing the same issue.

Truly I don't see any reason to create e-reader without epub support. We are living in XXI century now; time of txt, asc, tec etc. etc. texts is gone (thanks, Lord!) epub + OPDS - what's how the e-reading suppose to work today.

We all appreciate developer's hard work and are grateful and donate / buy when available, however with all the converting, I just don't feel moved to support this app. I would like to have full .rtf, .fb2, .lit, .txt, .pdf etc support without converting. All my ebooks which I enjoyed when back at WM 6.5 are either .rtf, .fb2 or .txt. I hope that a newer version of this reader would support them all. If I missed something regarding formats on previous posts, please let me know.
P.S. I don't mean any disrespect or harm with my comments.

@Pharmako
Thanks for your comments.
No disrespect taken. Feedback from users is appreciated. We're looking to make the best product you people want to use.
It's been a few hard decisions with many internal arguments. Let me outline some of the thoughts and maybe with user feedback we can come to solutions that everyone likes.
In PocketPC/WM5+ it was easy to support file types. Everyone had access to the file system -- users and code alike. Not so in WP7, so we had to create a way to get the books from your desktop to the phone.
At first we were going to use the Tine Reader Online servers to handle books. So, the decision was made that if we had to push the files into the cloud, we might as well just convert them into internal format. After talking with users, we decided to go first with a non-subscription (free) model -- hence Dropbox (SkyDrive was not available due to its Terms.)
Even Zune and iTunes will convert some content before placing on the device. Not that what they are doing is right for everyone, but this does seem to be the trend in the market.
Once we removed all the logic for HTML, paragraph reflowing (now done in the converter), and LIT, we found that we could repaginate a book almost 3 times faster. Change the font, and jump to the end of the book and you'll see what I mean. The reading paginates one page in front of your current page. If you jump ahead, it's got to figure out all the pages that come before.
We also handle Unicode character storage better than HTML, ePub and LIT do – it’s just in the way we store it.
We figured (originally) that if you needed a program to get the files to the service then who cared what format they were actually read in. And the program could later add new formats (as we did with adding ePub after the release.) I suppose with Dropbox, it's a little more obvious what we're doing now.
I was just looking at the converter and there are a few things broken. You should be able to open a ePub or LIT directly from the web and have it convert and put in Dropbox -- or even double click a file on the local drive. It looks like this isn't working. Also, the 'open' dialog doesn’t list FB2, ePub and LIT formats. These will have to be fixed.
Would some streamlining help? An option to Pre-accept password/drm and legal warning, and if you open a LIT, ePub, FB2 it simply does the convert?
Do we need to add bulk operations? (either multiple file drop or select a folder?)
Text is a bit harder to streamline. You may want to include author and a cover image. You'll definitely was the title. Too often I see text files as BOOK0023a.txt or some such. Not much help if we use the file name as a title. Thoughts?
We might be able to figure out the MOBI format. Trying to choose between that and Palmdoc/PDB. These can be all added without changing the reader itself.
What are the thoughts on this board?
BTW. The reader is being localized into 6 languages. Just waiting on the translations.

koornneef said:
@Pharmako
Thanks for your comments.
No disrespect taken. Feedback from users is appreciated. We're looking to make the best product you people want to use.
It's been a few hard decisions with many internal arguments. Let me outline some of the thoughts and maybe with user feedback we can come to solutions that everyone likes.
In PocketPC/WM5+ it was easy to support file types. Everyone had access to the file system -- users and code alike. Not so in WP7, so we had to create a way to get the books from your desktop to the phone.
At first we were going to use the Tine Reader Online servers to handle books. So, the decision was made that if we had to push the files into the cloud, we might as well just convert them into internal format. After talking with users, we decided to go first with a non-subscription (free) model -- hence Dropbox (SkyDrive was not available due to its Terms.)
Even Zune and iTunes will convert some content before placing on the device. Not that what they are doing is right for everyone, but this does seem to be the trend in the market.
Once we removed all the logic for HTML, paragraph reflowing (now done in the converter), and LIT, we found that we could repaginate a book almost 3 times faster. Change the font, and jump to the end of the book and you'll see what I mean. The reading paginates one page in front of your current page. If you jump ahead, it's got to figure out all the pages that come before.
We also handle Unicode character storage better than HTML, ePub and LIT do – it’s just in the way we store it.
We figured (originally) that if you needed a program to get the files to the service then who cared what format they were actually read in. And the program could later add new formats (as we did with adding ePub after the release.) I suppose with Dropbox, it's a little more obvious what we're doing now.
I was just looking at the converter and there are a few things broken. You should be able to open a ePub or LIT directly from the web and have it convert and put in Dropbox -- or even double click a file on the local drive. It looks like this isn't working. Also, the 'open' dialog doesn’t list FB2, ePub and LIT formats. These will have to be fixed.
Would some streamlining help? An option to Pre-accept password/drm and legal warning, and if you open a LIT, ePub, FB2 it simply does the convert?
Do we need to add bulk operations? (either multiple file drop or select a folder?)
Text is a bit harder to streamline. You may want to include author and a cover image. You'll definitely was the title. Too often I see text files as BOOK0023a.txt or some such. Not much help if we use the file name as a title. Thoughts?
We might be able to figure out the MOBI format. Trying to choose between that and Palmdoc/PDB. These can be all added without changing the reader itself.
What are the thoughts on this board?
BTW. The reader is being localized into 6 languages. Just waiting on the translations.
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Thank you for the reply. I think that I got a grip on how things go on WP7 after your thoughts. I think that, yes a: "Would some streamlining help? An option to Pre-accept password/drm and legal warning, and if you open a LIT, ePub, FB2 it simply does the convert?" would help, I mean if the converter is built in within the app in WP.

How can I sync ebooks with my Windows Phone?? Is the dropbox sync the only way??
koornneef said:
Sorry, reformatting (can't seem to mod the title):
Name: Tiny eBook Reader, Mango release.
Tiny eBook Reader allows you to read eBooks with the formatting you choose. We've put most of the features that were in the Windows Mobile version and made a Windows Phone 7 reader. We've taken the lastest submission to Marketplace (it's still going through testing) and compiled it for Mango.
It has most of the fixes that will be in the NoDo Marketplace version, but is compiled for 7.1 beta 2 and uses Mango extended Back tile.
Pin the app and it will display the last opened eBook on the back of the tile.
Another app to show off the cool new features of Mango.
Any bugs, feedback, please email using address in app About, and put MANGO in the subject.
(these are screencaps from the emulator, with photo book backgrounds.)
Download Link:
*This will not run on NoDo devices*
Anyone interested in playing with this version of Tiny eBook Reader for Mango you can download the XAP here:
http://www.goldencrater.com/Tiny_eBook_Reader-Mango.xap
Of course, "since only registered developers have Mango", you'll know how to sideload the app. And, until Marketplace starts accepting Mango verisons for submission...
Enjoy!!
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So where can we get the books to use with app. I can only find like amazon ebooks and what not.

Can this read PDF books ? I need something better than the Adobe PDF reader....
How do I upload my books to this ?

Well, the e-book conversion tools seemed to encounter errors with Chinese or Japanese ebooks conversion.........though the software in WP7 was able to show Chinese or Japanese fonts.
Hope there will be workarounds on the software.
(By directly clicking the .epub file will perform the conversion, however all characters are changed to 8bit ASCII characters, this will make the converted books simply unreadable.)