Hi guys .. just got the Optimus 2x review unit.
I have it for about 2 weeks to try.
You guys got any questions about the device ? anything you want to know ? Will try to answer
Status LED
Oh Great!
yeah, here's the first one:
I saw on different pictures just left to the upper speaker several... let's say "spots".. in the display. I suppose one is for the brightness regulation and the others? For what they are? Would be amazing if one of these spots is a Status LED! Could you come up with this info?
thanks!
PS: h t t p://presse.lge.de/riot-utils/download/media/3/87566576697678/lg_optimus_speed_2.jpg Here you'll see what I mean.
probably proximity senzor, I dont think it has led indicator.
test battery life with sync and all apps and backround services,debugging etc off.
tet standby over a night with 3g and 2g.
then test heavy sufing with opera mini and standard browser on lowest and hight brightness
Yeah battery is important.
real life performance
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
sadly .. its only the proximity sensor and nothing else .. digged into the menus and could not find anything about notification led
RADLOUNI said:
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
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It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
Does it play divx/xvid/mkv out of the box? and in 1080p?
If not, does any market app like vplayer or rockplayer solve it?
could you tell me if the LG flavour of Android includes the original News and weather widget?
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It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
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Lag is a software problem not a hardware problem. The question is whether its a problem pertinent to the Android system itself or the vendor specific add-ons (bloatware) that each vendor adds (Touchwiz, htc sense, etc)
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Does it play divx/xvid/mkv out of the box? and in 1080p?
If not, does any market app like vplayer or rockplayer solve it?
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I know for sure that it play divX, but the others i don't know.
Is this a usa version? If so...what carrier?
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RADLOUNI said:
Hi
I would be interested to know how smooth the optimus 2x would be after one day of usage and without using an application killer.
from my experience with the Galaxy S, the phone is quite smooth at boot time, but after sometime of usage where you would open and exit apps, the phone would get really laggy and even unusable to the extent that you have to reboot. People resort to using task killers to improve the phone performance which negates the purpose behind the android OS as it is designed to run at the same speed irrespective of whether you have 200 mb of free ram or 40 mb of free ram
So is this same with the optimus 2X or is the smooth experience persistent
Thanks
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I picked the phone up about a week ago.. Here's what I can tell you about the performance over time.
Immediately after a reboot it runs like a dreams.. even after a couple days its fine. I ended up having to reboot today because it was starting to get pretty laggy. But like rouvax said, i believe thats an OS problem, not a phone problem.
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It's fault of Froyo not the Phone i think. There is multi task but no chance to close apps. With gingerbread update it will be better i think.
BATTERY ?
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The phone comes with an app called CarHome (one of google's apps i believe), which after looking at the battery usage is an energy hog. After killing that, and some of the other bloatware that comes on it, the phone will last me a day or so of light usage with wifi constantly on. Playing a lot of games will obviously drain the battery, down to about 8-10 hrs from what i've noticed, I haven't tested it extensively for exact numbers
Did u have information about the sar value? It's usually add to the box..
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Did u have information about the sar value? It's usually add to the box..
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932602
Hi!
One thing that would be nice to is if there is a widget to enable/disable mobile data connection.
What I mean is the widget "mobile" that (mostly?) HTC devices have.
Maybe the 2X/Speed has one under "LG Widgets".
Here are some screenshots of what I mean:
HTC Tattoo:
http ://htc.com/uploadedImages/Common/HowTo/HTC_Tattoo/S_Mobile_Network_Widget.png
HTC Desire HD:
http ://htc.com/de/howtoimage.aspx?id=13318
I am sorry to mess up the links, but I am not yet allowed to post external links...
Thank you!
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932602
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I know about this. Thx but i am trying to find out the EU version .. if he got it maybe he can help me(us)
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Hi,
Does the 2x support USB OTG or USB host, i.e. is it possible to access an external USB storage? Would be great to stream media from an external hard drive via DLNA or HDMI. A micro-SD card is too small for a feature-length 1080p movie.
Thanks
- Does it have a good and loud speaker function so it can be used in a car (as navigation)?
- Can de LG launcher be disabled in favor of the stock android launcher?
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Hi all. Im due an upgrade i summer. Im looking At this phone or the desire s. But is this phone buggy? Is the dua core really something special? Reviews on the 2x arent too good atm, the phone has many negative points abt it! It was like that with my tg01. I got it because it was the worlds first 1ghz phone. (just like this is the worlds first dual core) my tg01 has soo mamy bugs with it and it was rushed out. Is the 2x like this? I hear it is very buggy. I dont want to get another phone like my tg01 where i rely on custom roms for the phone to be usable.
So long story short, is this phone good? Is dual core something special? Or is speed more or less the same as single cores? Some ppl say that dual core is not needed with android.. Is this true?
Sorry for the quick messy typing (not on pc) and looking for some quick answers!
Cheers
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bump :')
anyone?
Its GPU is a bit ahead of the Samsung's... The CPU is far ahead. In Smartbench 2011 I score 4142CPU and 2953GPU and no samsung devices are even on the charts (with 1.4ghz OC but still stock is a lot better, and I would recommend installing a custom rom...). The call quality can be quite bad until you flash the baseband but after that it should be great. I have nothing bad to say about this phone, and when 2.4 comes out it will only get better (2.4 is rumored to come with real dual-core support)
Even though mine's been working quite well for past 2 weeks as my daily phone, there are also people who are quite fed up with theirs.
I hadn't read xda's user reviews prior to getting mine, but if I were to get another 2x now, I would wait for LG to provide a firmware update that significantly reduces the lock-up/reboot/battery drain issues. It's just to be perfectly sure that I will get one as stable (or more so) than my existing 2x.
I believe the battery drain issue can be fixed manually. just need a through check on whats running and how
thank you all for replies!
(xilw3r sorry i have run out if thanks!)
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so most issues will be fixed with updates? but does the phone need to use a custom rom to be usable? is lg's ui good?
and is dualcore really much of a difference? do you notice a giant speed difference betweeen other android phones, or is it overhyped?
is battery life good on this? how long heavy use can it last under wifi?
im really stuck considering this and the
desire s
LG ui is laggy and a personal choice, i use lancher pro plus. heavy use and wifi battery lasts a few hours.
Battery doesnt last a day with low usage for me. 5-10% per hour on standby. With 3g on and mail twitter etc sync every 60 minutes. my old hero lasts longer with heavier use
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Can't comment much on the performance or UI as I moved over from Symbian. Though, it's much smoother in its user interaction than my son's LG Optimus One, but that's single core, 600mhz.
On days that I don't play much with it and actually use it like a typical work phone, the battery remains above 50% by 6pm. I think usually about 1 to 1.5 hour talk, hourly email auto-checks, less than half-hour of browsing and less than 20 SMSes. I am not a heavy user: I don't IM at all, nor GPS or game much. Just typical work-type usage.
Note: I switch off wifi when I am out of the house and rely on 3G for data connection. I find that keeps the battery lasting longer.
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LG ui is laggy and a personal choice, i use lancher pro plus. heavy use and wifi battery lasts a few hours.
Battery doesnt last a day with low usage for me. 5-10% per hour on standby. With 3g on and mail twitter etc sync every 60 minutes. my old hero lasts longer with heavier use
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then you have some application/service/process running roque
Mine easily last 10 hours in standby with only 1% battery use (wifi and 3g and autosync enabled)
if you have 5-10% drain per hour on standby, you have some application/service/process not going to sleep as it should, using cpu and power, and preventing your phone from entering standby mode.
Thats not a problem of the phone - but a software issue that you as user need to investigate and solve
with low usage I easily get 2 days running - with moderate use 1½ - and with heavy use 1 full day.
No strange processes running here, spent a few days of testing with different roms aswell drain still exists
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thanks fir responses! i was gonna say 5-10 drainage in an hr is bad! is the a common problem? i heard abt these battey issues!
Battery usage:
16h after power was unplugged, I still have around 40-45% of battery. Low usage (WiFi/3G on, a few calls, gTalk, but no email sync activated).
ROM: 10b
"Proof": dl.dropbox.com/u/1337791/android/2011-04-07%2001.15.23.png
Thank you all for responses much aprrecisted
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I relly want this phone but im not sure about it anymore.. i read so many many many big bugs about it, and seems that almost EVERYONE is having them..
optimus one was a great phone with dew bugs, why cant they make the same quality on a HIGHER END handset lol :S ?
If you look through the forums of any phone, there will be a lot of people talking about how they have some sort of problem.
Nexus S
yea but o2x is A LOT, mean u have 60 page thead about reboot issues.... that doesnt look too promising ..
You can always return it if you have too many problems
Nexus S
The stores have em already, G-slate and G2x. Played with both today, I know the manager in store but before somebody make a dumb comment pertaining to that, aint nuttin top secret and no special info was bestowed on me because of who I know. The stores just have them stocked already. The slate is nice though, good build, nice size and weight, kinda reminded me of the ipad but lighter. Honeycomb makes our phones look like gameboy colors.
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But the G2x was also better than my expectations! By far blows most of the others out of water.
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Hi all. Im due an upgrade i summer.
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By the summer? This phone will be old news then.
Hi guys.
My new LG Optimus 2x (preinstalled android 2.2.2) is very slow and "unsmooth" on the main LG Interface.
I still rooted the device and uninstall f-secure and car-app, cause I read, this apps can make problems, but the problem is still there.
Applications are running well, but the main system always laggs. If I download a few apps from marketplace, the phone totaly freezes for seconds :-(
And I´m wondering about shown RAM, when I take a look at Android Optimizer App. My total RAM showa 372MB, but I thought, this phone has 512MB RAM? Maybe my Device is not working correctly?
Can someone help me?
THX!
moeper
I experienced the same. Can be solved to a large extent with paul's custom rom. Nevertheless I hope that coming updates improve the phone. Its by no means using its full potential.
What I can only barely accept is the low reception. I was in several rural areas where i had no reception. My gf had each time 3 of 4 bars on her htc legend and on the same service provider as I. Thats really not too well. I couldnt even make a call.
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yes with pauls rom it becomes better but still laggy when installing progs, ...
hope to get update soon because it is a very good phone (and good price).
thomas
Yeah, that´s right. I have a second phone, HTC 7 Trophy with wp7, and so I was dissapointed about performance and phone/wlan power (even have network, gsm or wlan, with trophy, but not with lg).
Can someone say something about missing RAM? Datasheet: 512MB RAM, shown in Android Optimzer: 372MB....thx
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Yeah, that´s right. I have a second phone, HTC 7 Trophy with wp7, and so I was dissapointed about performance and phone/wlan power (even have network, gsm or wlan, with trophy, but not with lg).
Can someone say something about missing RAM? Datasheet: 512MB RAM, shown in Android Optimzer: 372MB....thx
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512mb of ram is the TOTAL ram the phone has, the 372mb of ram is USER AVAILABLE RAM. the other part is used by system and its apps.
moeper said:
Yeah, that´s right. I have a second phone, HTC 7 Trophy with wp7, and so I was dissapointed about performance and phone/wlan power (even have network, gsm or wlan, with trophy, but not with lg).
Can someone say something about missing RAM? Datasheet: 512MB RAM, shown in Android Optimzer: 372MB....thx
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512MB - ram used for GPU = ram available
damn, that´s heavy, I looked at a Desire, they have up to 100MB more free RAM...
The ram should not be a big issue. With proper programming and good ram management by the os a todays phone should never use more than 512 mb. Kinda silly with 1 gb, only encourages sluggish coding.
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Whenever I have had ram shown on the phone I've never had over 200 and I find that it decreases through the day whether things are open or not very frustrating! I'm disappointed with the phone so far I was expecting alot better and the software isn't suitable for the phone at all. Hopefully updates will arrive soon.
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get autokiller off market, activate the extreme preset if you want some extra free ram. Removing some useless stock apps also helps.
The original LG home launcher does seem to be laggy, try something like launcherPro, it seems to be much smoother.
Android is not like Windows, the RAM management is completely different. The performance issues your having is unrelated to the amount of free RAM you have. When a Windows pc runs out of RAM, it will start writing data to the hard drive. Of course accessing this data is much slower than reading from RAM. That's why increasing RAM can have a major effect in Windows. Android don't do this, instead it closes background programs(and saves it's state?), to free RAM as needed.
This is from the top of my memory, please correct me if I'm wrong.
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marco_ch said:
I experienced the same. Can be solved to a large extent with paul's custom rom. Nevertheless I hope that coming updates improve the phone. Its by no means using its full potential.
What I can only barely accept is the low reception. I was in several rural areas where i had no reception. My gf had each time 3 of 4 bars on her htc legend and on the same service provider as I. Thats really not too well. I couldnt even make a call.
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I have exactly the same problem and its my second unit
I'am extremely disappointed with this phone so far.
raf2k said:
I have exactly the same problem and its my second unit
I'am extremely disappointed with this phone so far.
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You guys who complain about bad network reception, have you all noticed that there is a small piece of foil on the lower end of the phone under the battery lid that should be removed? It's a blueish strip of plastic foil and harder to peel of than the other protective foils on the phone. Removing it has increased my cell reception from about 25% to 55-65% indoors at my place (measured with Phono).
Ermm no didnt know. Thanks for the hint. Just removed it and hoping for improvement.
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moeper said:
Hi guys.
My new LG Optimus 2x (preinstalled android 2.2.2) is very slow and "unsmooth" on the main LG Interface.
I still rooted the device and uninstall f-secure and car-app, cause I read, this apps can make problems, but the problem is still there.
Applications are running well, but the main system always laggs. If I download a few apps from marketplace, the phone totaly freezes for seconds :-(
And I´m wondering about shown RAM, when I take a look at Android Optimizer App. My total RAM showa 372MB, but I thought, this phone has 512MB RAM? Maybe my Device is not working correctly?
Can someone help me?
THX!
moeper
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About installing apps: I remembered that when CM switched to ext4 as base file system the phone stopped being inresponsive while installing apps. my phone is with ext3 now (total stock, to check if it still auto reboots) and yes it lags like hell while installing! I managed to keep the phone responsive after unlocking by removing juice defender (otherwise the phone was lagging like hell untill the wifi kicked in).
No foil on mine
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You guys who complain about bad network reception, have you all noticed that there is a small piece of foil on the lower end of the phone under the battery lid that should be removed? It's a blueish strip of plastic foil and harder to peel of than the other protective foils on the phone. Removing it has increased my cell reception from about 25% to 55-65% indoors at my place (measured with Phono).
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Thanks for advice. I've removed the foil from day one, but the reception is still bad.
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Thanks for advice. I've removed the foil from day one, but the reception is still bad.
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AFAIK LG phones = bad reception, I had one before this and it was shockingly bad - going downstairs = no reception. I've moved since then so can't really compare
thats not the case with my O2x
It has far better reception than my Iphone 4 or my HTC Desire or any other phone I have owned. Inside my house reception has allways been very poor and its almost impossible for any phone to get reception, I normally have to move around in the house and find a spot just to get connected. But with my O2x I now have excellent reception everywhere in the house which was a hughe surprise to me when I got it.
PS: I also get the very annoying lag when installing apps on my O2x - while my single core Desire and my single core tablet Archos 70it doesnt.
I really hope LG can make us a better rom when rolling out Gingerbread.
complaining about free ram is ... and using of any task killer apps is useless.
if the phone is getting out of memory it will close unneeded processes automatically.
And it doesn‘t make a difference wether if ram is full or totally empty, it‘s the same power consumption.
Ram is there to be used!!!
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Hey Guys ... Did you look to the Ram status in the Galaxy Note ???
I have 600+/800 usage in normal situations !!! and when I clear ram it reached to 400+ which goes back to more than 600 Mb after moderate usage !!! what about in your Notes guys ??? Any solution for this ?? plz comments ....
What is it you are planning on doing with the free ram? Has the use of ram caused any problems? Don't worry about it and use the device. There is no point in trying to worry about something which is being used or not being used which is not affecting you in any way. Until it does have fun with the phone.
Do you think Android is running on air? The Note has 1GB RAM which the OS takes 200MB at boot. The rest is used by apps and other things. If you're not going to use the RAM, then why do you need it?
"My computer uses 50MB of RAM, And i have 32GB of it!" WHAT'S THE POINT?!
Try RAM Manager by Juwe. Be aware that the more memory you free up the worse multitasking will be.
Are you kidding me? Use RAM Manager when your device has 1GB of it? Please slap me as hard as you can.
This thread needs to be deleted.
RAM is there to be used.
I would use 100% of my RAM 100% of the time if I could. If it's not being used, it's being wasted.
Unused RAM is totally wasted. When 2GB devices come out OMG my device is using 1GB out of my 2GB!!!
To each his own, who are you to tell others what to do with their RAM? I'm not your typical "as much free memory as possible freak" but how comes that when I kill some apps before running something more intensive it's usually smoother and performs better?
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To each his own, who are you to tell others what to do with their RAM? I'm not your typical "as much free memory as possible freak" but how comes that when I kill some apps before running something more intensive it's usually smoother and performs better?
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I've never had to manually kill apps with my G-Note, so I dont know what your doing wrong, Could be a faulty device as far as I can tell.
Thanks for your advice, I'm running to get it replaced.
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Thanks for your advice, I'm running to get it replaced.
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600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
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Would you replace your computer because it's using to much RAM?
Chances are you would find the RAM hog and keep it from starting up when not neccesary.
600mb is normal usage.... if you are not happy with that high of usage delete the apps that have services running or are always in the background. Android does this for you as you approach full RAM usage anyways though...
garytube said:
600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
Ever heard of irony?
Of course I'm not gonna get it replaced I'm happy with the way it is.
Yes, I've read about Android memory management quite a while ago. Very smart and very convincing. Now on the other hand - every now and then after some intense moments - let's say I'm driving and I'm using offline satnav then online satnav then there is a phonecall, then I make a voice note, I get out, send a text, use my GTD app and whatever else - after hours of such use when I get home, stretch my legs and I fancy to play let's say Galaxy on Fire 2, I find it smoother and less likely to crash if I just press "kill all apps" button in Task Manager. And since I installed RAM Manager I don't have to do it. And I haven't noticed any side effects that would interfere with my style of using my phone.
So guess what - I really don't give a **** about Android memory management and all expert opinions because I know what works for me and I'm happy with that state of things.
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garytube said:
600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
Ever heard of irony?
Of course I'm not gonna get it replaced I'm happy with the way it is.
Yes, I've read about Android memory management quite a while ago. Very smart and very convincing. Now on the other hand - every now and then after some intense moments - let's say I'm driving and I'm using offline satnav then online satnav then there is a phonecall, then I make a voice note, I get out, send a text, use my GTD app and whatever else - after hours of such use when I get home, stretch my legs and I fancy to play let's say Galaxy on Fire 2, I find it smoother and less likely to crash if I just press "kill all apps" button in Task Manager. And since I installed RAM Manager I don't have to do it. And I haven't noticed any side effects that would interfere with my style of using my phone.
So guess what - I really don't give a **** about Android memory management and all expert opinions because I know what works for me and I'm happy with that state of things.
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I liked your response, but it's not irony, it's sarcasm
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garytube said:
600mb usage is totally normal on moderate use. Obviously you don't know how RAM Management work on Android. Go and replace your phone but nothing will change.
Ever heard of irony?
Of course I'm not gonna get it replaced I'm happy with the way it is.
Yes, I've read about Android memory management quite a while ago. Very smart and very convincing. Now on the other hand - every now and then after some intense moments - let's say I'm driving and I'm using offline satnav then online satnav then there is a phonecall, then I make a voice note, I get out, send a text, use my GTD app and whatever else - after hours of such use when I get home, stretch my legs and I fancy to play let's say Galaxy on Fire 2, I find it smoother and less likely to crash if I just press "kill all apps" button in Task Manager. And since I installed RAM Manager I don't have to do it. And I haven't noticed any side effects that would interfere with my style of using my phone.
So guess what - I really don't give a **** about Android memory management and all expert opinions because I know what works for me and I'm happy with that state of things.
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it looks like to me that you posted in this thread just to promote RAM Manager
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pjm77 said:
it looks like to me that you posted in this thread just to promote RAM Manager
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I posted in this thread beacuse another user complained about the problem that I came across and found solution to. It's certainly not the best one, but it's the one that works for me.
In the meantime I got ridiculed by more social-oriented users who need to accept and be accepted. To which I got upset and posted some crap. As a result I hijacked the thread. I apologize and shut up.
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LordManhattan said:
Are you kidding me? Use RAM Manager when your device has 1GB of it? Please slap me as hard as you can.
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Samsung makes us fool it has only 800MB RAM. Even i thought it was 1GB.
It has 1GB. 200MB is reserved for the system.
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Memory usage
My daughter started a game where a photo is used in the programme, and I got the message "Free RAM low, resolution of photo reduced". Had to kill running services to be able to run it without the reduced resolution. Checked the overall Galaxy Note ram usage and just out of the box I have around 230mb free of RAM, I have an HTC Desire HD (768 ram) that has the same free and it is filled with running apps. When you get that kind of messages from a new phone, from some ****ty simple kid programme before I have even filled it up with stuff I get really annoyed. When I kill all I can i can get max up to 400mb.
Yup, TouchWiz is a greedy RAM eating whore. Wait for CM9 and then you'll see why custom UIs like TouchWiz and Sense is bull****.
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I love my Revo, but I feel like I have too much widgets, therefore lack ram. that's why I want to see what type of widgets you use, and see how much ram that takes nad how much ram you have on average
I use facebook widget, color note widget, a clock, beautiful weather, a calendar widget, the my verizon, the notifications for GO launcher, and of course GO launcher.
when I clear my ram, I have about 160 mb of ram. (including email music and smart keyboard pro)
I feel like I'm lacking alot, and this prevents me from playing high quality games.
Yea you have kinda a lot of widgets. Right now the only widget I use is the advanced task killer. I use to use the Sense 4 Widget until I decided to use something new. Just divide your widgets down into what you really need then you should have less widgets.
indeed, the only widget I use is the SIMI clock widget on my main screen
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I use all seven desktops and have them full of widgets. I decided this time around to only use widgets that came with the phone. The phone has no problems with RAM or battery. Seriously, not kidding. However, I have downloaded a couple apps that include widgets like Equalizer, SetCPU and WiFi teather.
gimpcell said:
I use all seven desktops and have them full of widgets. I decided this time around to only use widgets that came with the phone. The phone has no problems with RAM or battery. Seriously, not kidding. However, I have downloaded a couple apps that include widgets like Equalizer, SetCPU and WiFi teather.
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So how much ram do you have
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So how much ram do you have
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My point is I stopped caring for it. I learned to trust the phone. On a good day I have noticed it stay steady at 40. On a busy day it goes down to 20-15. I use adw and have the dock and status bars hidden which saves a few bytes. The battery still lasts about 20 hours. That's with me plugging at twelve at night.
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My point is I stopped caring for it. I learned to trust the phone. On a good day I have noticed it stay steady at 40. On a busy day it goes down to 20-15. I use adw and have the dock and status bars hidden which saves a few bytes. The battery still lasts about 20 hours. That's with me plugging at twelve at night.
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So you never clear the ram?
Because when I don't it really lags sometimes... \: So should i just deal with it ?
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My point is I stopped caring for it. I learned to trust the phone. On a good day I have noticed it stay steady at 40. On a busy day it goes down to 20-15. I use adw and have the dock and status bars hidden which saves a few bytes. The battery still lasts about 20 hours. That's with me plugging at twelve at night.
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You do know 40 ram is bad?
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So you never clear the ram?
Because when I don't it really lags sometimes... \: So should i just deal with it ?
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After my second revo I stopped downloading and installing crap games and apps that have in-app ads. It seriously helps with battery and phone speed. I do get the common launcher restart and a few screen freezes here and there but nothing that makes me want to throw my phone because of lag. I guess its just preference. I can capture my phone statistics and email them to you so you can compare.
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After my second revo I stopped downloading and installing crap games and apps that have in-app ads. It seriously helps with battery and phone speed. I do get the common launcher restart and a few screen freezes here and there but nothing that makes me want to throw my phone because of lag. I guess its just preference. I can capture my phone statistics and email them to you so you can compare.
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Yes that'd be great!
BTW My phone even though it has like 60mb of ram that's when it starts to lag. Is this weird? because wheres the other 60 mb?..
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You do know 40 ram is bad?
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Its not bad. I use my homescreens for 80 percent of activities and tasks. This phone really is badass. It helps if you minimize the amount of third party apps.
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Its not bad. I use my homescreens for 80 percent of activities and tasks. This phone really is badass. It helps if you minimize the amount of third party apps.
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Personally, I hate anything LG because of this phone. It's a decent phone but never again will I get an LG phone.
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After my second revo I stopped downloading and installing crap games and apps that have in-app ads. It seriously helps with battery and phone speed. I do get the common launcher restart and a few screen freezes here and there but nothing that makes me want to throw my phone because of lag. I guess its just preference. I can capture my phone statistics and email them to you so you can compare.
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Like when I play scramble with friends, it lags then my whole phone lags, when i get like a text or something. then i cant even go to the task amanger to end it because it's so laggy so i end up taking out the battery.
I have 3 screens, 2 widgets running, 147 meg in use 154 free on stock rooted and things are pretty smooth. As much as I like MT's work and respect it, break out 1.1 just lagged to much for me. Even after boosting the low end core speeds coming out of sleep it would take forever for the phone to become responsive, stock for me is snappy, out of sleep the phone dialer opens immediately etc... I get great battery life on stock and as much as I dislike LG phones now, I do like home except the lack of being able to change the icons on the dock. I really would like different links. I have been off charge for 14 hours and still have 78% battery left light usage.
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NM just figured out how to change the links... lol... Had this damn thing a year and never knew... I like home a lot now...
I have ons screen using the status bar widget and I use the sstcpu widget. That's it. Widgets slow it down when you have a bunch running at once.
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One thing worth mentioning in this thread is that you should remember android is linux. Linux utilizes ram a bit differently than what you're likely used to (Windows). A windows computer generally fills up the ram with all sorts of nonsense until it gets full, starts overflowing the data onto the hard drive, and lags (especially if you have a bunch of poorly written programs running all the time). In other words, on windows, more free ram is better, and that's pretty much all there is to it.
Linux (and therefore android) suffers from the same problem of course, if you fill up the ram completely by opening way too many programs it will still overflow the data to a swap partition.
On the other hand Linux tends to try to use the ram more agressively, because ram is much faster than the hard drives, so you tend to see the ram relatively full most of the time, especially when there isn't much of it to begin with, which is usually actually a GOOD thing... It means linux is doing it's best to go faster!
Again, of course completely running out of ram isn't good, you can still open too many programs and overwhelm the ram on linux/android, but the point is just because you see a lot of ram usage, doesn't necessarily mean there's a problem.
On another note the lag on my phone (with broken out) was clearly due to cpu governing... once I got my hands on the blitz kernel and set the min and max to decent settings I've not had it lag at all -- and it was BAD, lagging horribly ALL the time before that. I usually have a ton of crap running all the time too btw.
Just my 2 cents...
Edit: I should add that I'm not an expert by any means, but I'm fairly confident the above is correct. If not, sorry, it's only worth 2 cents!
i believe you are correct good sir.
As with making sure your RAM is under control, you can either use a task kiler or the one that is included in zep's supercharger. Shouldnt need to worry about RAM in newer phones as many will have 1gb+ DDR3 availible.
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keynith said:
i believe you are correct good sir.
As with making sure your RAM is under control, you can either use a task kiler or the one that is included in zep's supercharger. Shouldnt need to worry about RAM in newer phones as many will have 1gb+ DDR3 availible.
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Saw the signature with the new tf300. How is it? Specs look nice and I have been looking to upgrade from my old gtab.
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haha i love it. i got the keyboard dock and its exactly like a laptop with it attached. although it doesnt have the screen like the prime, i paid 550 for both the keyboard and the tablet and the ICS is very nice. 32gb tab is 400 and 150 for the keyboard.
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I use Launcher Pro, and for whatever reason can only get 3 desktops (don't know why) anyway, I currently use GO Weather Widget, My widget for school, Facebook, Twitter, Rift (MMORPG), Sleep Bot. Rift and Sleep bot only take up 3 spaces on my main screen. the GO Weather is a 4x2 but they have a 2x1, 2x2 and 4x1, I like the 4x2 cause it has more stuff on it and its skins are fun too.
One of my biggest issues with the OneX was the overly aggressive memory management that made multitasking impossible and plain broke some stuff. Even on my GS3 AT&T with 2GB of RAM the memory management is quite aggressive probably to help battery life or something. On my Nexus 4 however I can choose to leave apps running non stop for days at a time and they remain that way. Especially handy for Maps or Ingress BTW.
Anybody with one have a sense on how it is on the One? I'm hoping the extra 1GB of RAM helps but then Sense was always overly bloated and the whole blink feed thing can't have a small footprint.
Looking for thoughts since the phone is useless to me if it will continuously kill apps in the background.
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Well I dont know if the apps remain days after launching them but I got to tell You that its faaaar better than One X. The other day I opened 10tabs in the browser at the same time and no reloading. When it comes to new sense its like a night and day. Normally on my OneX ram usage was about 800MB without any app runnig. With The One I have 550MB from 1.5GB that is usable so that indicates that Sense 5 is a lot lighter and believe me... Its really fast. They got rid of most widgets, animations are more simple etc. Blinkfeed is kinda nice but it needs extended functionality.
Multitasking isn't an issue.
I've come from phones with 512Mb RAM - the dialer in particular used to get shut down all the time, leading to lag when someone rang, or when I wanted to boot the dialer up again to ring someone. I rooted those phones just so I could lock the dialer in memory.
The HTC One appears to do the same (well, the dialer eventually disappears from the recent apps list anyway), but even so, it is no problem. Using the dialer as an example, whether I have used it 5 minutes ago or six hours ago, when I press the dialer button it comes up straight away, i.e no laggy delay like previous phones. And the dialer comes up and the phone rings pretty much straight away when someone rings me (well, me ringing myself from my other phones to test the response time).
So more than enough RAM (and processing power) on the HTC One to not make it an issue any more, everything flies and all apps come straight up when you want them to. More than happy.
I know what u mean coming from the HTC one x and one x+ myself . HTC have solved the problem finally.. this baby can multitask properly.. and very quickly I might add
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I know what u mean coming from the HTC one x and one x+ myself . HTC have solved the problem finally.. this baby can multitask properly.. and very quickly I might add
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Can u pls tell me how much memory is free when u boot it up and let it settle...
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Regarding free RAM, out of the box there was about 1GB RAM free (1.5GB showing as available in the 'running apps' screen, with about 550MB used, or as it is displayed in Sense 5, '550MB/1.5GB').
I've now disabled all the stuff I don't need, and loaded Novalauncher, with six home screens full of widgets and app icons, and also Widgetlocker, i.e. quite a lot of stuff loaded - now it shows '825MB/1.5GB' (the range is about 775MB to 875MB from what I observe), which means roughly 600-700MB free RAM still, allegedly. That's without any specialist tweaking from me.
No slowdown or lag at all since I have loaded everything up.
Coming from the Nexus 4, multi tasking is a bit disappointing for me; it’s not a deal breaker but with the N4 I’d switch to an app I’d not touched in a week and it would be up, responsive and exactly where I’d left off a week later no matter what I’d done in the mean time. On the One however, apps sometimes have to reopen and - for me a more annoying behaviour- sometimes relatively recently used apps do a sort of ‘refresh’ when they first load up. The app seems to load up, but then it fades out and then back again, which means that although they usually pick up where they left off, they’re unresponsive for a second. It’s not all the time and it may sound like nit-picking but it feels like a fairly significant delay when everything else is so fast.
It’s also frustrating using certain apps where the refresh can lead to you losing progress; I was using a run tracker for example, stopped my run, multi tasked to music and stopped that, jumped in the shower and then switched back to the run log to sort out the details, but instead of loading my stats where I’d left it, or even reopening the app entirely, it showed an image of my runs stats just as i'd left it but then refreshed and loaded up a new run. Because i'd not pressed 'continue' in the app the run was lost. It's poor that the app didn't autosave before that point but it’s not unique behaviour either as I’ve had the same happen with office documents, games and other apps - seems very odd behaviour to me and not something i've seen in other phones where an app is either ready where it was left, or needs reopening.
If I’d gone straight from the SGS2 to this it wouldn’t be an issue but with the N4 showing me what can be done, I do feel that the One could use some improvement.
It also depends on the app, some apps for me dont save their state at all.
As soon as I switch app it reloads when I go back to it, however on my Senny with edited memory management the same app could be opened again at same state without reloads.
For me, every single app on the 9 recent apps grid will load instantly with no refresh.
Even the stock browser? That's the biggest culpit for me in terms of seemingly needless refreshing. Hopefully what im experiencing will be fixed either by HTC or a third party as if this phone had the N4's multitasking prowess - and there's no reason it can't imo - it would feel much, much better to me.
Yeah the browser is fine; are you on stock rom? Not sure if ARHD has any tweaks in regards to multitasking but it's good for me.
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Yeah the browser is fine; are you on stock rom? Not sure if ARHD has any tweaks in regards to multitasking but it's good for me.
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Yep completely stock - usually like to wait a few weeks before going down the custom rom route so i can get a good guage of the otb experience. If it fixes the muti-tasking i'll switch over to ARHD once i've fixed my N4 though
So some people are actually having the refresh problems again?
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I don’t know what the last generation HTC One’s were like but this isn’t terrible, it’s better at multi tasking than my S2 in general - just not as good as the N4 and the strange refreshing/redrawing behaviour seems totally pointless and counterintuitive.
At least it does that because of the battery !
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I don’t know what the last generation HTC One’s were like but this isn’t terrible, it’s better at multi tasking than my S2 in general - just not as good as the N4 and the strange refreshing/redrawing behaviour seems totally pointless and counterintuitive.
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It isn't pointless it helps save battery because it essentially freezes apps in the background so they don't use CPU. When you go back to them they then resume and have to refresh. So in the end it will help with battery - on a stock One X I used to easily get 5h screen on time. Never got close on a SGS3 or any other phone.
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Not going to lie but my Note 2 has never refreshed an app yet. If the One is plagued with refreshing and aggressive memory management its a deal breaker. Im just confused because some people say yes and others no to the problem. Which is it?
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Not going to lie but my Note 2 has never refreshed an app yet. If the One is plagued with refreshing and aggressive memory management its a deal breaker. Im just confused because some people say yes and others no to the problem. Which is it?
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As always it depends entirely on what apps you use and what state they report. The memory management on the One won't be for RAM reasons but CPU and battery reasons. The worse news is even after rooting and changing system settings some of the aggressive management on the One X was at the kernel level.
Given the extra memory on the One. I'm guessing it won't be as bad but you'll have to use it yourself to know for sure.
I'm currently on a Nexus 4 and this is the best Android multitasking I've ever seen on a phone ever.
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I think it also depends what phone you came from and how you use it. I constantly switch out between a dozen or so apps and am used to the nexus 4 which is pretty much flawless for multi tasking, but having used a one x+ side by side (literally 5 minutes ago) the one is massively improved, and it's also a lot better than my s2.
It's a damn fast phone and most of the time there's no issue, but it could still be improved slightly - I'll check out a custom rom this week and see if that does it.
I'm still very happy with my purchase - particularly since the battery life has improved significantly and now trounces what I got with the n4 in the same situation.
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