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Is that an ipad?

I had 3 people ask me that. Just thought i'd share

Same here. I answered HELL NO! I don't buy locked down apple ****. I don't drink the koolaid. Haha
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Ha, I had someone point at me the other day and swoon to their friends, "Aw man he's got a Ipad!" I just smile'd and kept walking.

Someone just yesterday walked up to me and asked "That's the NookColor isn't it?" He knew... spent about 10 min with the guy showing him this and that, he had wanted to buy one but wasn't sure. Once he saw this fantastic Android tablet with BN ereader software that was running the Kindle app and Angry Birds he was sold!

If there are consumers out there that mistake the Nook Color with an iPad, that just shows how incredibly dumb consumers can really be. They are about as two different devices as two devices can get.

Gave me an idea...
gojeda said:
If there are consumers out there that mistake the Nook Color with an iPad, that just shows how incredibly dumb consumers can really be. They are about as two different devices as two devices can get.
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For a Craigslist ad. "7-inch iPad - newest model!"

plympton said:
For a Craigslist ad. "7-inch iPad - newest model!"
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Right?? I would have probably said, "yes it is! In fact, i'm on the production team and I have another one at home. This is probably going to be $600 when it comes out officially, but seeing as how it's Christmas and all- how would YOU like it for $400?"

xwint3rxmut3x said:
Right?? I would have probably said, "yes it is! In fact, i'm on the production team and I have another one at home. This is probably going to be $600 when it comes out officially, but seeing as how it's Christmas and all- how would YOU like it for $400?"
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HA! That'll be the day

johnopsec said:
Same here. I answered HELL NO! I don't buy locked down apple ****. I don't drink the koolaid. Haha
Sent from my Nook Color using Tapatalk
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Well, for all possible reasons you could have given, this is really not the best. Why? The Nook is even more locked down and limited than the iPad. Hell, you cannot even install applications ("extras") officially. You cannot even put your sideloaded books on your home screen.
The NC became interesting when it got rooted, but then again the iPad can be jailbroken as well and has a lot more functionality from the get go even in its locked down state.
Now keep in mind, that people who mistake your NC for an iPad won't be rooting or jailbreaking their devices. For those people the NC does not come anywhere close to the iPad when it comes to actual functionality (without rooting or jailbreaking).
These would have been some valid reasons for buying the NC:
The NC is only $250.
It's more compact than the iPad.
It runs Android, you like Android and you will be able to load Android apps on it when B&N open their app market or now if you root.
Please, I like Android, and I like my NC, but this Android fanboyism is no better than the Apple kind, especially if it's this misguided: Out of the box the NC is a lot more locked down than the iPad. B&N don't want this to be a full-fledged tablet and they will strictly control their app market once it's launched. Rooted nooks cannot access many B&N in-store feature (see thread in this forum), and surely we'll lose root during the next update, which might not even ask your permission to be applied (also from another thread and data analysis on the "firmware over the air" entries in database files on the device, which are set to automatic update.)
So in effect you were saying: "I don't buy locked down apple ****! Instead I'm buying locked down Barnes and Noble products."

Jailbroken Color Nook Ebay?!!?!?!

You have GOT to be kidding me!
http://cgi.ebay.com/NEW-Unlocked-Ja...469?pt=LH_DefaultDomain_0&hash=item27b723a68d
Until B&N pushes an update to unroot it...wow...
Here's the best part.
The options are just opening up for this hot holiday item, right now you can play a large amount of games and other locked out Apps Barnes & Noble don't want you turning their lower priced ereader into a full fledged android 2.2 tablet.
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2.2...lol..I should email the seller to show me a screen cap of 2.2 on there and running Flash.

Plus he mentions giving you access to parts of the android app store. Um...which part would that be exactly?? And all for only $400! Wow. Pity some poor sucker is going to fall for this.

Well, he's mostly right about the "full fledged android tablet" part

HeroHTC said:
2.2...lol..I should email the seller to show me a screen cap of 2.2 on there and running Flash.
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He won't... cause these are unopened in original packaging and stuff...

devis said:
He won't... cause these are unopened in original packaging and stuff...
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Oh, you mean that he only buys them AFTER someone pays...
Pretty slick, but man I could NEVER do that to ANYONE.

Sad thing is, this creep is probably stalking these forums right now and even reading this post.

If he is, he better put some change in the Cyanogen tip jar.

Well, i can't really blame him though... he's only catering to the "ignorant, can't read simple directions" or the lazy bunch out there.

Ugh. You'd think that someone attempting to sell products would have a better grasp of grammar and spelling.
They don't exactly mention that they do anything more than just rooting the device. Some poor sap is going to buy one, receive it, fire it up and look for Angry Birds and cry. Like others have said, they'll think that it's running Android 2.2 and has access to Android Market. Fail.
He's from Milton, WI. I've been there.

lol, all his feedback is as a buyer, and some from the same vendor I believe (as feedback is a copy/paste) and he touts "100% feedback." Wow. I hope he loses money when someone complains and PayPal takes their money back.

[Q] Need help convincing my wife

I've decided on purchasing the Nook Color. I've been saving my pennies, but my wife is still not sold on the idea. She loves blogs and facebook, and she loves the netbook I got her for Christmas, but other than that she's not seduced by the raw technological possibility of the NC in the same way I am. What I need from you all is this: What features can I bring up to get my not-super-techie wife excited to own one of these things?
Thanks in advance!

zstick said:
I've decided on purchasing the Nook Color. I've been saving my pennies, but my wife is still not sold on the idea. She loves blogs and facebook, and she loves the netbook I got her for Christmas, but other than that she's not seduced by the raw technological possibility of the NC in the same way I am. What I need from you all is this: What features can I bring up to get my not-super-techie wife excited to own one of these things?
Thanks in advance!
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Do you have children?
If so the children book range and the games you can get after root is a great way to keep them entertained.
(Im a teenager so i know what im talking about... lol)
Otherwise, the ability to use facebook, twitter and blog websites on the go is great, and other apps that just save time, like calculator apps for instance are EXTREMELY useful...
There also:
Recipe books (if she likes cooking)
Pandora
But to tell the absolute truth, if she doesn't want an ereader to actually read off, i dunno if you'll be able to convince her to get it...

If you can't convince her that you *need* it. And trust me you do....
Just bring it home.
If she gets mad (and she will)
Simply blame me.
JDP
Sent from my e-reader is better than your e-reader.

I conviced my wife that the Nook would help me in many ways.
1) I am a Systems Engineer working for a large indrustral plant. I carry manuals, drawings, books, etc on my phone and a day planner with me. I was able to replace the planner with the Nook, I have moved all of the other stuff to the nook and the biger screen is very helpful.
2) I am attending classes for a masters degree. I have been able to get some of my books in PDF or Epub formats. It is also helpful for reviewing notes etc...
3) When I fly I can use the Nook for music, games, movies, etc...

take her to the store, use the demo model, and hope she falls in love with it. My wife thought it was gadgety, but now it's pretty much all she reads on. We had to strike an accord on rooting though. Eventually I switched to Nookie Froyo, and during the day when I'm not home I reboot it without the card so she can use it "stock". According to her it became too confusing once I rooted it (never did figure that one out), but finally it boiled down to the home screen replacement. I left it rooted, but went back to the nook home screen and disabled softkeys (button savior helped here since it's easier to hide), so it's as close to stock as it could be with still having the ability to load apps.
Bonus, if she likes magazines, they are actually pretty nice to read on the Nook. the 1.1 update makes them even better, so I look forward to rooting catching up with that so I can keep up my hybrid build. Good Luck!

Gee, sounds like the simplest thing is that "you have a netbook, I'd like a NOOKcolor"... that is, unless you have the netbook/laptop/etc. as well. Lucky me, we both have desktops, we both have netbooks, we both have Classic Nooks, and my wife still doesn't mind that I have the NC, 'cause she knows how much I like my toys.
(PS: the occasional gift (necklace, etc) for her makes it a lot easier for her to overlook my toys as well.)

zstick said:
I've decided on purchasing the Nook Color. I've been saving my pennies, but my wife is still not sold on the idea. She loves blogs and facebook, and she loves the netbook I got her for Christmas, but other than that she's not seduced by the raw technological possibility of the NC in the same way I am. What I need from you all is this: What features can I bring up to get my not-super-techie wife excited to own one of these things?
Thanks in advance!
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What I did was take her (wife) to B & N and let her play with the NC. However, before we visited B & N, I shared a couple of YouTube videos illustrating the wonderful possibilities of the NC. Matter of fact, she took the NC to work the next day to show it off to her people.

Sell your wife and buy two Nooks.
Sent from my Nook Color using XDA App

Go ahead and buy it and tell her that it is a sweater.

My wife already had a Nook, and she was a little jealous over me getting the Nook Color as she "kinda" wanted a tablet, if it could: Facebook, Email, Read/Write Office doc files.
I installed a trial of one of the Office programs and let her play with it for a few.
We bought her one that night..

I can't imagine someone NOT wanting a nookColor! Once i rooted mine, hubby got so jealous he went and bought his own and had me root it for him. We are both 150% satisfied
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gtriever said:
Gee, sounds like the simplest thing is that "you have a netbook, I'd like a NOOKcolor"... that is, unless you have the netbook/laptop/etc. as well. Lucky me, we both have desktops, we both have netbooks, we both have Classic Nooks, and my wife still doesn't mind that I have the NC, 'cause she knows how much I like my toys.
(PS: the occasional gift (necklace, etc) for her makes it a lot easier for her to overlook my toys as well.)
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The netbook is very much hers (except for some low-level tinkering I do like installing Maxivista), but I have my own laptop so the "you get one I get one" argument is out. I will keep up on the gift-giving, though. Thanks!
jmoch2 said:
Sell your wife and buy two Nooks.
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Man, if only she weren't so'darn good looking!
Kodeen said:
Go ahead and buy it and tell her that it is a sweater.
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Favorite quote/suggestion. ^^^^^
Anyway, we don't have any kids yet, but we're both working and going to school so budget is the biggest concern (hence me "saving my pennies"). She doesn't mind me having gadgets, it just has to either be a need or something she would love as well. I've taken her to B&N and told her "Just play around with the Nook Color for a minute." She always says "I don't know what to do when you say that." I like the cook-books angle because she does want to get more into cooking and one of her friends brought up that very point.
Please keep the suggestions coming! With the combined intellect on here, we can get me that Nook!
Thanks again!

zstick said:
Anyway, we don't have any kids yet, but we're both working and going to school so budget is the biggest concern (hence me "saving my pennies"). She doesn't mind me having gadgets, it just has to either be a need or something she would love as well. I've taken her to B&N and told her "Just play around with the Nook Color for a minute." She always says "I don't know what to do when you say that." I like the cook-books angle because she does want to get more into cooking and one of her friends brought up that very point.
Please keep the suggestions coming! With the combined intellect on here, we can get me that Nook!
Thanks again!
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My wife was the very same way, take her to the store and she just stares at the Nook Color saying "what do I do". I went ahead and bought her one for Christmas anyway. As soon as she turned it on she was hooked.
My wife is very much a facebook nut so she enjoys the fact that she can read and then flip the NC sideways and browse the full facebook website on a whim. And it helps to that she is an avid reader so once she got down the fact that she could have multiple books going at once... she now has whole book cases and home screens dedicated to different books depending on her "mood".
Ultimately, you don't NEED a Nook Color. That's tough to sell. But you mentioned school... this is great for school whether reading a pdf text book or a lit book for a class. Studying is good too, say you need to look up something online while your nose is in your real books. Well just pull the NC out and seconds later you got your answer all without the clutter of a full netbook/computer on the desk. Looking at papers taking notes... there are a lot of academic roads you can take if you head down the path of rooting.
All in all my wife was a netbook candidate too...
But once I bought her the NC she just took off with it. If your wife understands enjoying reading a book, then to her this "gadgety" Nook Color is a "readers netbook". Or heck if you take the time it’s almost an academic netbook of sorts.
Anyway good luck convincing but in my opinion the nook is hard to wrap your head around until you really get time to sit and comfortably mess around with it. The Nook Color is so customizable with rooting that really you get out what you want out of it, just takes time to let it mold itself into your life.
That’s my .02 hope it helps

I have an idea, how about you grow a pair and just buy it Im married and my wife spends a majority of my money, so when I want something I buy it, lol

We have 2 android phones, 2 laptops and a desktop in our house, but I think im going to buy a NC and root it so I have a facebook/web machine laying around thats more portable than her big a$$ macbook pro and my stupid work laptop...

I started off pushing for something much more expensive. When I showed her I could buy something for half the price, she happily agreed. Seriously, after I explained what I wanted it for she was very supportive of my decision.

honestly though, take her to the mall, let her try on something nice and then offer to let her get it. She will think your being sweet, then you stop at Barnes & noble on the way home for payback

DroidHam said:
I have an idea, how about you grow a pair and just buy it Im married and my wife spends a majority of my money, so when I want something I buy it, lol
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Were I to take the tactic you're suggesting and "grow a pair and just buy it," my wife would immediately take that pair, cut them off and stuff them in her purse so they'd always be close at hand to remind me what happens when I listen to people on the internet. And she'd return the nook. No, my friend. That would be disastrous.

zstick said:
Were I to take the tactic you're suggesting and "grow a pair and just buy it," my wife would immediately take that pair, cut them off and stuff them in her purse so they'd always be close at hand to remind me what happens when I listen to people on the internet. And she'd return the nook. No, my friend. That would be disastrous.
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Are you employed? Make $$? Does she buy herself stuff?

DroidHam said:
honestly though, take her to the mall, let her try on something nice and then offer to let her get it. She will think your being sweet, then you stop at Barnes & noble on the way home for payback
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This is your best bet, works great for me

B&N Nook Color 2.2 Update?

So where is the promised January/mid-February NC 2.2 update from B&N??? Here's what I found recently:
"B&N plans to update the OS sometime in 2011. Regarding applications, we are committed to the NOOKdeveloper program and on track to add apps to our store in early 2011, but do not have plans enable Android Marketplace at this time."

It was never promised. Just rumoured. And then pretty much debunked:
http://nookappreview.com/2010/12/31/nook-apps-might-arrive-in-march-2011-developer-mode-in-jan-2011/

Still sounds promising seeing how i'ts March already. But it looks like it's more of a refined update as opposed to a general android OS update. The inclusion of flash would be nice. And if they are in charge of making flash available then maybe we'll get a decent working version of one a little easier.

The current build just feels sluggish. Especially the browser. Hopefully they can rectify that in whatever updates they have brewing.
In general I think BN just needs to get the app store out but maybe they are waiting on actual developers for this? At the very least...Facebook, Twitter, instant messaging, e-mail, Youtube, etc. would be nice. Support for more types of video codecs as well as allowing side loaded content to be added to the home screen would help make those features actually useful. I think they really are a few steps away from the stock, unrooted OS being decent enough where some of us less adventurous people will be dissuaded from going through the trouble of rooting.
Web browsing is a lot worse than on my iPhone 4 at the moment. The video quality on m.youtube is a horrendous pixelated mess. No difference at all between HQ and Normal.

To watch YouTube in HD, dig around for and install "signed_YouTube.apk". I believe this is the gingerbread version and plays YouTube vids in HD on the nook properly
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henhowc said:
The current build just feels sluggish. Especially the browser. Hopefully they can rectify that in whatever updates they have brewing.
In general I think BN just needs to get the app store out but maybe they are waiting on actual developers for this? At the very least...Facebook, Twitter, instant messaging, e-mail, Youtube, etc. would be nice. Support for more types of video codecs as well as allowing side loaded content to be added to the home screen would help make those features actually useful. I think they really are a few steps away from the stock, unrooted OS being decent enough where some of us less adventurous people will be dissuaded from going through the trouble of rooting.
Web browsing is a lot worse than on my iPhone 4 at the moment. The video quality on m.youtube is a horrendous pixelated mess. No difference at all between HQ and Normal.
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I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.
However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint

Admiralvic said:
I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.
However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
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According to a B&N employee, there will be an update to stock NC to Android 2.2 based firmware which will also support Flash, at the end of March.
Remember that this is third-hand, may be incorrect, and could be delayed even if it is correct.

I really wish there was going to 2.2 update.

ADude said:
According to a B&N employee, there will be an update to stock NC to Android 2.2 based firmware which will also support Flash, at the end of March.
Remember that this is third-hand, may be incorrect, and could be delayed even if it is correct.
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I heard the same thing from an employee except it was 2-3 weeks ago and the date they gave was the end of February.

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theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
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That may not be true, it depends upon how "Enhanced NookBooks" will work, which according to their website are coming soon. Flash maybe?

I had not seen this thread and I just got back from BN. I showed the guy my rooted Nookand he was impressed.. although I dont think he liked my kindle app.
He did volunteer that there would be an update by the end of March. What was included .. he did not say.

Admiralvic said:
I could see them waiting for more apps... its also possible their riding the hype and waiting for it to die down before releasing it.
However as I + others have said... theres NO REASON for B&N to update the nook. At least from a android firmware standpoint
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We can hope and dream can we not?

If a B&N store employee is telling you when the update is coming they are talking out of their anus.
No company is going to give out any information like that to bottom level sales employees. When B&N settles on an official date they will at best give the employees a couple days warning.
Honestly we will probably know when its coming before the employees do.

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If a B&N store employee is telling you when the update is coming they are talking out of their anus.
No company is going to give out any information like that to bottom level sales employees. When B&N settles on an official date they will at best give the employees a couple days warning.
Honestly we will probably know when its coming before the employees do.
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I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too.

henhowc said:
I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too.
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Well you have to remember this wasnt the first time we went down this road. I remember when every employee was saying the app store + 2.2 would come out in January... then it was Feb, now its end of march... I wouldnt be shocked if these people are just relying on luck, and assuming things.
Not everyone, employees included know that theres android on the low... its always possible that they just think were on Nook firmware 2.1, and just say a date for the next update as its possible.
Logically speaking, if the nook was getting an upgrade... and the employees actually knew, and were telling it why wouldnt it get announced? With something like 2.2, its not like B&N is going to just release it without trying to nab sales.

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I heard the same thing from an employee except it was 2-3 weeks ago and the date they gave was the end of February.
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I really respect delays in software releases.
This means that the managers are allowing the programmers to fix the bugs, instead of heeding the CEOs' usual call to "release it now regardless of whether it works right".
I am not referring to any particular company or CEO, but there is always pressure from above to release software before it is stable.
PS How do BN employees know ? Someone has to be doing Beta testing before a release to millions of customers. It is typical for large companies to have employees do Beta testing. It would not be unusual for those Beta testers to get an email with link to "release candidate for public release at the end of the month, so please confirm that you do not have problems with this release". Then when problems are confirmed, release slips to the following month, rinse and repeat.

Hello,
just wanted to share that just the other day, must have been thursday, A Nook rep at my local B&N store and i got to talking and he said that he had been told that 2.2 will be out this month! and that he was told that in January. Looks like we might be getting luck! Just gotta be patient. Always fun... lol

henhowc said:
I've seen some stores have specific Nook "experts" that just hang around the Nook kiosks all day long and they probably have more general knowledge about the product than say the cashiers or regular employees. I wouldn't say its impossible that an employee knows info that we don't. Or they could read forums like this too.
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I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...

tranquilchao5 said:
I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...
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Right.
Although it would be nice to have a B&N rep. mulling around the forum. After all, I think communites like this are best at making products better for everyone else. And forum reading typically are strongly tied and loyal to their device. They also are more likely to spread good PR if they are happy with their product and the company attached to it. Read; OG Droid compared to the Droid X fiasco. Ever wonder why they finally allowed an unlockable bootloader on the Xoom? Something caused them to backtrack a bit...even if we only represent a small percent of the consumer base.
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tranquilchao5 said:
I am a digital lead at a BN and I love this forum...
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Spill the beans!

[HUMOR][NOOK COLOR EDITION]You know you're rooted when...

I have seen these threads popping up in various device forums across XDA as of late.
They can get quite funny and I thought we could use one here on the Nook Color forum.
To contribute, just post and complete the following sentence, "You know you're rooted when..."
Here are a few examples:
caifan: "When you're in and out of recovery and still manage to work or go to school full time."
nodstuff: "You know you are rooted when you flash a new rom losing all your previous data and settings even though you were perfectly happy with your last one."
anfozy: U know your rooted when the word "nightly" becomes more appealing than "stable"
Enjoy!!

You know your rooted when....
Your $200 NookColor kicks the sheeet out of your buddies $500 GALAXY TAB.

You won't spend $400 on a new tablet, but you'll spend more on two NOOK Colors so you'll have an extra one to test on.

"Getting some nookie'' now means sneaking outta bed at 3am to upgrade to the freshest nightly and lying to your wife about what you were doing, when you find her wide awake when you return to bed.

when you tell your girlfriend to hand you your e-book reader...and you proceed to type your midterm paper on it..

... when you use your Nook as a remote for your media player via wifi.

This thread depressed me, as I have done all of those things. I think I did all of those things last night?!?
Anyway, you know you are rooted when you can't watch Google Movies legimately.
Okay, thats not humor, but I laughed the first time I saw the message.

you know you're rooted when...
while explaining to a noob how to get your status bar back,
you realize they're looking at you like you're from another dimension.

jakelov said:
"Getting some nookie'' now means sneaking outta bed at 3am to upgrade to the freshest nightly and lying to your wife about what you were doing, when you find her wide awake when you return to bed.
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This is just sad for anyone under 50........

You know you are rooted when you buy books on the "kindle" app on your Nook, but have NEVER bought a B+N book (or even registered it for that matter)

you are happily using it in India where B&N doesn't even sell it, let alone support it
+ what whatsinaname said