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Car Charger Question

Ok, so I took my Inc on it's first run yesterday as a full-time GPS. It sat in the Verizon dock, plugged into my Griffin dual-port USB cig. lighter adapter.
It made the entire 3.5 hour trip, but when I got there, and removed the phone from the charger, it was at 9%. It had started at 100%. So, obviously, the 5V .5A that the Griffin outputs is not enough to run the GPS and at least maintain charge.
Does anyone know where to get a 5V 1A car charger? Unfortunately, most manufacturers don't even list the amperage output of their devices either online, or even on the packaging!
Thanks,
Doc

DocTauri said:
Ok, so I took my Inc on it's first run yesterday as a full-time GPS. It sat in the Verizon dock, plugged into my Griffin dual-port USB cig. lighter adapter.
It made the entire 3.5 hour trip, but when I got there, and removed the phone from the charger, it was at 9%. It had started at 100%. So, obviously, the 5V .5A that the Griffin outputs is not enough to run the GPS and at least maintain charge.
Does anyone know where to get a 5V 1A car charger? Unfortunately, most manufacturers don't even list the amperage output of their devices either online, or even on the packaging!
Thanks,
Doc
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sounds like you might be best off with a power inverter and a wall adapter. or you could buy a car that has a 2 prong outlet in it like mine

Teksu said:
sounds like you might be best off with a power inverter and a wall adapter. or you could buy a car that has a 2 prong outlet in it like mine
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As an EE that's really inefficient. Belkin USB Micro Charger does 5V @ 1A max. It's marketed as an iPhone/iPod car charger but it does work for the Incredible since it doesn't have any fancy charger lockouts. There is also a 2 output version with a 1A and 500mA plug.

Charging In Car With Griffin Powerjolt

I bought a Griffin Powerjolt Dual Universal USB Micro from amazon.
I tried to charge my Nook Color, but it wont. It would charge over my laptop (can not find the original charger).
Now, there is a thread on xda and a post on amazon, that talks about modifying the griffin to make it behave like an A/C adapter.
http://www.amazon.com/review/R1ZEXX...42B9U8Q&nodeID=&tag=&linkCode=#wasThisHelpful
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1207298
So I was wondering if that could be the problem and if i should "hack" the griffin charger.
Thanks.

Anyone knows?

kwanbis said:
Anyone knows?
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You need to use the Nook usb cable. It has the extra pins to allow more amps to pass through to charge at ~2 amps, assuming the Griffin is capable of charging at 2 amps. Regular USB cables only allow 500mA through the 5 pin connector.

Has nothing to do with the pins; I picked up one of these Scosche chargers, and found it would not supply the full two amps until after I cracked it open (super easy, actually), and did the USB middle pins solder trick:
http://www.amazon.com/Scosche-reVIVE-Dual-Charger-iPad/dp/B003N7NO4Q
Yes, I did the initial test with the standard charging/data cable that came with my Nook Color.

Why not just go with Kensington powerbolt duo with a 2.1 amp USB output and 1 amp USB output? NC requires at least 1.9A to fast charge.

hwong96 said:
Why not just go with Kensington powerbolt duo with a 2.1 amp USB output and 1 amp USB output? NC requires at least 1.9A to fast charge.
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Input voltage range - 12-16V DC at 2A, 5 watts per port (5 volts @ 1 amp)
It seems to be 2A = 2 amps?

kwanbis said:
Input voltage range - 12-16V DC at 2A, 5 watts per port (5 volts @ 1 amp)
It seems to be 2A = 2 amps?
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The Griffin has [email protected] per port for a TOTAL of 2A.

lg optimus wall charger please help

does lg optimus x2 compatible with ipod touch wall charger rated 5.1V 1A or samsung android charger series with 5.1v 750mah?
please share volt and ampere rate on original charger or share your experience using wall charger other than original
thx

original charger: 4.8V/1A
with one charger that puts out 5.3V/1A the touchscreen starts to act weirdly
The charger (from a motorola RAZR II V8) I mainly use puts out 5V/850mA

amdultra said:
does lg optimus x2 compatible with ipod touch wall charger rated 5.1V 1A or samsung android charger series with 5.1v 750mah?
please share volt and ampere rate on original charger or share your experience using wall charger other than original
thx
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I have used "sometimes" the charger of my sis's Samsung GS. And no problem encountered.

mrgian said:
I have used "sometimes" the charger of my sis's Samsung GS. And no problem encountered.
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samsung Galaxy S? does it rated 5V and 850mah? okay so it seem wall charger from samsung galaxy series work fine,tommorow i will go to store to buy them, Original LG charger is expensive in here 14$ and there's chinese micro usb wall charger for 3$ that works fine dont know it's volt and mah rate
thx for answer:laugh:

got samsung traver charger adapter for 5$ rated 5v 1A it charge fine without problem.it say 5v 0.7A on the package maybe it's a fake or half fake/third party but still no problem

Building on the topic, I would like to know if I use the original charger but with other cable USB (commom) I will have same efficiency in recharge? And I would like to know if I will Have problem if I make this?

dont know about usb cable maybe yes,my only experience just with generic usb cable that dont work as data cable in sgs

No Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 support

TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.

Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.

Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607

In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.

Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.

fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?

Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.

I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.

Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.

fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.

fr4nk1yn said:
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.

I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.

squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?

sniperess said:
But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.

tgambitg said:
The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.

supercharge car charger?

And 6ft usb c that supports supercharge?

I've Ankey 1 USB Quick Charge 3.0 and working fine on my MAte 10 Pro with Waze started. Mobile charging (but slower than original charger it's logical regarding Quick charge 3.0).

https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B075CGTRR7/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/aw/d/B06ZZBVSYK/ref=ya_aw_od_pi?ie=UTF8&psc=1
Is what I found on Amazon for the best price at the time. Yes the car charger does Super Charge.

You need 5A Charger and cable for the supercharge (or at least something near)

Does 2.4A work, too.? Of course with slower charging rates but using the whole 2.4A? Want to use it with a supercharge cable.

gerf2008 said:
Does 2.4A work, too.? Of course with slower charging rates but using the whole 2.4A? Want to use it with a supercharge cable.
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Yes. It will work, I currently use an Anker charger. It's just a bit slower than Supercharge.
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Has anyone found an adaptor that allows 3.5mm jack for audio and USB C for charging that supports fast charging at all? Even 2.4a would be ok. I have found one online from flosmall that claims 2a, but I don't know if that's really enough. I regularly run Waze and listen to podcasts (downloaded) or Spotify (streaming) and the adaptor I got off eBay charges really, really slow. I also need a new car charger, so the responses in this thread have already been helpful on that front.

You can buy an original Huwaei Car Charger with SuperCharge support at http://s.click.aliexpress.com/e/qjQJqba

I am asking about a 6ft usb cable that support supercharge, I have no idea why everyone talking about Qualcomm charger, this is not a Samsung thread smh

https://www.amazon.es/Acocobuy-Carg...8&qid=1521544897&sr=8-11&keywords=cargador+5a
This one has 2.4a and Supercharge 3.0

I got myself original Huawei AP38 car charger and it came with cable in package. Works absolutely like a charm and it is well worth the money. No difference from wall charger in terms of charging speed

There are plenty usb cables that work with supercharge just look for one that supports 5A current. I have a very long one close to 2m/6ft, works very well with huawei car charger and normal charger
The thing with supercharge and the cables is that most chargin technologies require a maximum of 2 or 3A. Up to 3A is a usb standard so all usb cables support that. A higher current is usually never needed because standard usb protocols dont support it. 5A current requires a different structure of the cable. And since supercharge uses up to 5A current we need to get special cables.

rjan22 said:
I am asking about a 6ft usb cable that support supercharge, I have no idea why everyone talking about Qualcomm charger, this is not a Samsung thread smh
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This one works with Supercharge and is 2M long this one
Car charger supercharge original with 1M cable here

$7.50 USD and it works fine as a Super Charger - just need to make sure the cable is rated to 5A - https://www.tomtop.com/p-k6492.html...878GgH-bDYvgzzFhq5JIYDMB9v0dEw8YaAucfEALw_wcB