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[Q] Car Charger

What Are the specs of the Adam's Charger (Volts, Amps, Watts)?
Is it possible to charge it through mini usb ?

Model: MPA-40P
Input: 100-240V~50/60Hz 1A Max
Output: +19V -- 2.1 A
written on the charger

Thanks
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inspiron41 said:
Model: MPA-40P
Input: 100-240V~50/60Hz 1A Max
Output: +19V -- 2.1 A
written on the charger
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Those specs are like other laptops, dell, acer and the elocity use similar power adapters.
I think there is a thread mentioning one. I searched amazon at one time for one for a work mate, and also came up with a compatible car charger.
I'll edit and post once I find that post.
-CC
EDIT: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=904678
Don't have any idea nor am I recommending anyone use this with thier adam, I am just passing on the info hoping it helps pin point the right one.
GOOGLE search: car charger Output: +19V -- 2.1 A
SAMSUNG CAR CHARGER 19V 2.1A 40W AA-PA2N40W AD39-00028A
CAR CHARGER DELL INSPIRON MINI DC ADAPTER 19V 2.1A 40W
EMACHINES 19V 2.1A 40W CAR CHARGER PLUG DC AUTO ADAPTER

Using different chargers question please

I have numerous chargers at home all of which have charged my evo, gs2, Nexus 7, etc.
Can these be used interchangeable in the Note 2 without harming the charging process?
Thanks

As long as the Voltage is the same (5V) there is no Problem. But you should have a charger at 2 Amper for optimal charging speed.

I just tried charging mine with the normal microUSB charger I use for every other phone I have had and it took 7.5 hours to charge from 5%-62%. I used the stock charger that was in the box and it charged it in 3.5-4 hours no problem. Seems like the charger in the box charges faster.

reading this thread made me curious, my NOTE II should arrive in about a week, I can't tell for myself yet, what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
as i come from HTC, my current chargers go up to 1 A current. witch is the double A a standard USB port will give unless crossover'd .
thanks in advance!
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in the wiki thread i found the answer, the supplied charger delivers 5 V 2 A output to the device.

WendigoNL said:
what is the A (amps) specification mentioned on the original charger?
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2A! Same as the Tab 10.1 charger.
Filling a 3100mAh battery requires some grunt.

i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
when i use the stock usb cable with the stock charger ..my s3 would charge up comparatively faster than with the other usb cable connected to the same stock charger.:rolleyes

max.android said:
i think even the usb cable makes a difference..
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It certainly does! :good:
All electrical cables have some resistance. Very low (but not zero) for quality cables, sometimes quite noticeable for thin and cheap offerings.
From Ohm's Law we know that voltage drop will be proportional to current. A cable with a resistance of just half an ohm will loose about 0.5% at 50mA. That's pretty much nothing. However, at 2000mA the loss reaches 20%.

dude use any charger, just don't use LG charger **** !!!!!

You must use the 5volt 2amp charger and cable provided or a replacement with the same output or youll either be waiting for ever for it to charge or do some damage.
I tryed using my note 1 charger rated at 1amp and guess what? It took about twice as long to charge.
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Some of my old 1 Amp chargers aren't happy at all, and will often decide to stop charging randomly.
I though it was something weird with my phone, but after switching chargers it never happened again.
- Frank

USA official charger
This are the images of the official USA charger that will comes when they release the device in USA
And yes its a 2.0A charger, so the SIII charger isn't appropriate for NoteII.
this is the kind of charger used in Canada, USA, and Latin America, i bought this NoteII in Mexico from an authorized Samsung provider, of course factory unlocked 710usd, like 10,900mxn.

Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.

mcdill the pig said:
Has anyone tried a 3A charger? Just wondering if this would speed up charging even more than the standard 2A charger.
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No, it won't speed it up. It's what the device takes from a charger, and not what a charger can potentially supply. If the device's charging circuit is spec'd for up to 2A current, that's what it will suck out of a charger, not more. You can connect a 30A lab power supply, and it will still be the same 2A (or less) input. To speed up the charging process, you need to mod the charging circuit of the device itself.

Compatible Chargers

Does anyone know which charger is compatible with Optimus black.
I tried samsung and Nokia charger but I makes the phone go crazy.
any suggestions.

compatible chargers
ahmedmid said:
Does anyone know which charger is compatible with Optimus black.
I tried samsung and Nokia charger but I makes the phone go crazy.
any suggestions.
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I use the Samung and HTC charger and i have no problem. I haven't had problems with several chargers for car. In summary, any USB charger should be compatible with Optimus Black.
Regards.

The Big Z said:
I use the Samung and HTC charger and i have no problem. I haven't had problems with several chargers for car. In summary, any USB charger should be compatible with Optimus Black.
Regards.
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That's exactly the idea of the unification of the charger standard.
The only difference is the Amps of the charger.
Avoid using higher than 1A for the sake of the battery, many phablets and tablets have 2A chargers.
Lower is ok.

Lost Charger, Need replacement HELP

Hello guys,
I lost yesterday my charger, and i can't find any charger seller.
I am not going to import a new charger yet, in the meanwhile a friend who has a moto x too told me that the Moto X has a power of
5v and 1150 mAh
Charging with original cable to a PC via usb is too slow
i have an Alcatel (5V - 400mA)
PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA)
I tried to investigate by my own, but the more i learn i get more confused..
Which one should i use to charge my Moto X?
Alcatel or Vita?
Thanks in advance

fellhound said:
Hello guys,
I lost yesterday my charger, and i can't find any charger seller.
I am not going to import a new charger yet, in the meanwhile a friend who has a moto x too told me that the Moto X has a power of
5v and 1150 mAh
Charging with original cable to a PC via usb is too slow
i have an Alcatel (5V - 400mA)
PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA)
I tried to investigate by my own, but the more i learn i get more confused..
Which one should i use to charge my Moto X?
Alcatel or Vita?
Thanks in advance
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http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-batteries-chargers/Duo-Rapid-Charger/duo-rapid-charger.html

rman18 said:
http://www.motorola.com/us/accessories-batteries-chargers/Duo-Rapid-Charger/duo-rapid-charger.html
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They don't even export to South America, i will end paying $100 bucks if i use a miami pobox, il wait until motorola local store brings original chargers.
Thanks but as i said, i can't buy/import a new charger at this moment only have:
- Alcatel charger (5V - 400mA with it's own microusb cable)
- PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA with the original cable)
Yet i am afraid to damage my cellphone or it's battery.
=(

fellhound said:
...I am not going to import a new charger yet, in the meanwhile a friend who has a moto x too told me that the Moto X has a power of
5v and 1150 mAh
Charging with original cable to a PC via usb is too slow
i have an Alcatel (5V - 400mA)
PS Vita Charger ( 5V - 1500 mA)
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A USB/USB2.0 port will output 5V 500mA (and in some cases 550mA).
The less current the charger outputs, the slower it will charge the phone, which is why charging via cable to USB port on PC is so slow. If the phone really needs 1000 or 1150mA to charge, then using a 500-500mA charger might not even be able to maintain the current battery level.
In most cases, the output rating on the charger is the voltage (V) and max current (mA) the adapter can supply.
While you must match the Voltage and do NOT exceed the rated Voltage of the original charger, usually it is acceptable to use a higher current charger as the phones will draw as much current as they need without exceeding the max output of the charger.
I charged phones and headsets that shipped with 550mA chargers using 750, 850 and even 1000mA chargers just fine. And I use a 1000mA(1A) and 850mA chargers to charge my X at the moment.
So you should be able to charge via the PS Vita charger.

as long as the charger can supply enough amps it will charge the phone fine or at a slower rate.
amps are like the flowrate of a pipe. if you have a charger with a lower amp rating than the phone can take in, it will just atke in less. if your charger is more than the max, the phone will just take the max it can and there will be no harm.
if you watn to be sure a charger can charge your phone at its top speed just buy one for an ipad or a tablet as they are usuall over 1AMP and up to 2AMP.
i dont think the moto x even draws the full 1150ma, just the charger itcomes with has 2 USB ports so its a heavier duty phone charger

I'm using a galaxy s4 2amp charger and it works wonderfully. Fastest OEM amperage and a nice long USB cable.
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No Quick Charge 2.0/3.0 support

TurboPower charger that comes with it is the only thing that will give it a fast charge.
I have no idea how or why Quick Charge tech was left out.

Mine does indeed say "TurboPower Connected" and charges super-fast when I use the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Amp Type-C Dual-Port Wall Charger and the USB C Quick Charge 3.0 AUKEY Car Charger with Dual AiPower Ports. I can't seem to find it now, but I remember reading somewhere that the Moto Z does use QC 3.0, otherwise I wouldn't have bought the above products. NOTE: I am going USB-C to USB-C.

Does not use 3.0.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/z-force/help/moto-z-forces-turbopower-quickcharge-t3429607

In short QC 2.0 and 3.0 don't follow usb c spec according to a top Google engineer. According to Usb c spec the vbus voltage should not exceed 5v. QC tech exceeds this by using 9v and 12v to achieve more power. Motorola built the Moto Z according to spec which allows you to ramp up the current (amps) to achieve more power which is why our stock charger outputs at 5.7amps. You don't need QC to charge fast with Usb c. Usb c with power delivery is actually better . Either way the QC chargers put out 15 watts total. Our turbo charger does 28.5 watts using 5v at 5.7 amps and is actually faster than what's out now. QC chargers use higher voltage to achieve this at 9v 1.7 amps 15 watts, a charger doing 5v 3a does the same 15 watts. So to turbo charge your phone don't use QC chargers unless it also outputs at least 5v at 3a that's the key. Anything less than 3a won't turbo charge. It needs to be a usb C to usb C cable so the charger should have a usb C port not a usb a port like most of you are trying to use. No other charger out now does more than 3amps besides the turbo charger until then use chargers that do 5v 3a. Verizon has a fast charger that supports this and all other fast charging tech.

Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.

fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-...-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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Will these charge as fast as the stock charger out of the box? And with a USB C cable does it need to support quick charge, or do all USB C cables support quick charge as long as you have it plugged into a USB C quick charge adapter like you linked to?

Nothing charges as fast as the stock charger as far as I know.

I looked around on Amazon to try to find a spare charger with the same speed as the OEM, but there are none as far as I know. QC actually goes against usb-c standard, so whoever has a phone that supports both is technically being shorted on charge speed. I will be waiting for the verified brands (ex. Anker/Aukey) to release a legitimate charger because there have been instances where wall chargers have completely destroyed devices. For the fastest charge, you'll want usb-c cables end to end, but since usb-c is not the standard yet, I would be very careful when buying lesser-known usb-c accessories. Z owners will have to wait for the market to catch up at this point.

Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.

fliptwister said:
Here is some info I have been updating on another thread. Here are some 5V/3A Type-C options:
Wall chargers:
http://www.choetech.com/CHOE-3A-USB-C-Charger/
http://www.tronsmart.com/tronsmart-w2pte-type-c-quick-charger-3.0-dual-ports-rapid-wall-charger
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01DVH7Q8M
Batteries:
http://www.tronsmart.com/products/tronsmart-presto
http://www.ravpower.com/20100mah-external-battery-charger-QC3.0-type-c.html
https://www.anker.com/products/A1371012
Car chargers:
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-ccta-quick-charge-3.0-car-charger
http://www.tronsmart.com/product-c2pe-car-charger
http://www.blitzwolf.com/BlitzWolf-Qualcomm-Certified-Quick-Charger-QC-3.0-33W-USB-Type-C-BW-C8-Car-Charger-with-Micro-Cable-p-85.html
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B01E764DXM/ref=oh_aui_detailpage_o01_s00?ie=UTF8&psc=1
https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B018TGGH4E
I know these are not as nice as having some other 5V/5.7A charging options but at least they should charge better than QC 3.0 chargers.
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I bought the Choetech charger from amazon and it works great on my Z Force. no where near the OEM charger but still charges the phone dead to full in a little over an hour and a half. from my limited testing.

fr4nk1yn said:
Total side note but I wonder if the problems Samsung is having is because of their bastardized quick charge/type setup.
I'm happy we don't have QC.
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Ha! I was thinking the same when I heard about battery fire from the Note 7.

I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.

squidder said:
I just bought another oem charger from amazon and called it a day.
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But car charger?

sniperess said:
But car charger?
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The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.

tgambitg said:
The car charger that Verizon sells turbo charges the phone, but not as quickly as the stock home charger. I don't think any charger will charge as fast as the stock home charger, since it's optimized for the phone. But the Verizon USB-C charger charges the phone plenty fast.
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I can confirm this. I just got this phone on an upgrade after insisting to the Verizon sales representative that I did NOT want a Galaxy S8, that I was absolutely sure I didn't want the S8, and that I think the Z Force is a much better device than the S8. After seeing the genuine shock on his face that I slighted his phone, I bought the OtterBox case and the Verizon branded USB-C car charger with it.
The car charger definitely charges faster than my non quick charge USB-C cable, but not as fast as the stock charger. The stock charger will take me from ~5% to full in an hour. The Verizon car charger takes about an hour and twenty minutes to go from ~5% to full.
All in all, it was worth the money spent on the charger. It is definitely better than the 8 hour charge my standard USB-C usually takes.