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next flash: Darky's or Insanity? Recommendations/endorsements?

have tried just about every custom out there with the exception of insanity and darkys roms.
Pondering both for my next flash....anyone have recommendations for which they prefer.
all comments welcome and encouraged but would doubly appreciate feedback from those who have used both.

Several threads like this have already been locked in the past 2 days. Why start another one?

Miami_Son said:
Several threads like this have already been locked in the past 2 days. Why start another one?
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I apologize if i am in error. I didn't realize there was any problem asking for specific feedback or recommendations on a particular rom or roms.
According to the forum rules what is wrong with my post?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/announcement.php?f=263#td_post_81
If i am in error please delete thread.

Just look through both Dev threads. That will give you lots of information on what people like about each one. And if you have flashed about everything under the sun flash both because chances are you will eventually.

I was just pointing out that these kinds of threads have been getting closed left and right the past few days. ROM recommendations are really very subjective. No one knows what your requirements are and how a ROM will fit them. What works for one will not necessarily work for all others. And the ROM Dev forum is really a better place to be looking.

I will add that anything i9000 based like Darky's has plusses and minuses. The plus is that you get great HSUPA speed. The downside is you get the EU flavor and features that don't work. Spelling of some things is EU, options for FFC are there but don't work.
There are many other details.... I just hope for the Captivate source/official release soon so we can get a true captivate 2.2 kernel and tools to build from.

Assonance all the way.
Sent using smoke signals.

Miami_Son said:
I was just pointing out that these kinds of threads have been getting closed left and right the past few days. ROM recommendations are really very subjective. No one knows what your requirements are and how a ROM will fit them. What works for one will not necessarily work for all others. And the ROM Dev forum is really a better place to be looking.
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1. I was asking for feedback most specifically from people who has used both roms. This wasn't a Whats the best rom ever thread.
2. The developer thread definitely would not have been a place to post this and in my extensive use of the forum and reading and re-reading of the rules i fail to see how this post violates them. So again if i am mistaken...my apologies to all and i beg on the mercy of a mod to just delete the thread. (i have read both threads for the two stated roms....was hoping to hook more direct compare and contrast from users who have played with both.

Connor1 said:
Assonance all the way.
Sent using smoke signals.
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lol have used assonance so i was just looking for feedback and comparison between darkys and insanity.
flashed darkys earlier and its a pretty rom but don't think i am liking it any more than Doc's or Chronus so i may give Insanity a run before going back to chronos or doc's.

alphadog00 said:
I will add that anything i9000 based like Darky's has plusses and minuses. The plus is that you get great HSUPA speed. The downside is you get the EU flavor and features that don't work. Spelling of some things is EU, options for FFC are there but don't work.
There are many other details.... I just hope for the Captivate source/official release soon so we can get a true captivate 2.2 kernel and tools to build from.
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hey thanks for being one of the first to post feedback thats actually relevant =)
i had went with darkys and what you said is right on. I think i still prefer Chronus Rom and Doc's most recent so will probably flash back to one of them but may give insanity a quick trial before.

So Darky's rom ported over to the Captivate as seen in this thread switches what exactly to make it Captivate-specific...just the modem, kernel and a few GPS-related modifications?

matt310 said:
So Darky's rom ported over to the Captivate as seen in this thread switches what exactly to make it Captivate-specific...just the modem, kernel and a few GPS-related modifications?
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appreciate the link. had already trialed darkys...nice but i went back to chronus 2.0 for now.
funny i had just flashed it when i saw my other favorite rom (doc's) posted an update.

I'd go with the non-racist sounding one.

Should I eat Whopper or chicken sandwich? Which 1 is better? Any recommend? Haha

netnerd said:
Should I eat Whopper or chicken sandwich? Which 1 is better? Any recommend? Haha
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Personally, I am partial to the breaded chicken sandwich with cheese and bacon. It is quite the treat, and you should only eat one per year to avoid heart conditions, lol.
On topic... I've been looking to start venturing into custom ROM's on my Cappy, but I am tempted to wait and see if Cyanogen ever devs their 6 or 7 for Captivate now that they are dev'ing for Nexus S...

I have used pretty much every ROM out there, even the ones that do not make it to the Captivate forum and so far Darkys is my usual go to ROM.
For some reason, when selecting the Gallery images, it is the only one that does not lag before going to the zoom in and out window.
I am not using Lag fixes btw with any 2.2.1 rom.

have had a chance to play with both....no more recommendations needed.

wow, 10 chars

magnumrt562 said:
If Obama is the answer, how stupid was the question?
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Best sig ever

I am on the dark Rom with the 2.2 no oc/uv death and its fantastic. One of the best battery i have had on a Rom.
Sent from my GT-I9000 using XDA App

[Q] ROM Comparison

Is there somewhere with a Captivate ROM comparison? I've been away for a month and a half, and holy crap have things changed! I am soooo confused. Running Cog right now.

coldbeverage said:
Is there somewhere with a Captivate ROM comparison? I've been away for a month and a half, and holy crap have things changed! I am soooo confused. Running Cog right now.
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Que the flaming. (should be in the Q&A section)
They change so often, that I think it would be hard for someone to maintain the tread on it. You pretty much need to do the research yourself on each ROM and decide which is best for you in performance, look, and battery life. (Thats what I do anyways) I like to try them all in order to get a feeling for them.

It has indeed been a busy month. Not sure where to direct you for an across the board comparison, but as for myself i've read a lot of threads and am presently completely content running perception 10.1 with dg's firebird 2 kernel and jk4 modem on my i896. Everything works, including hspa in both directions, gps gets a fast reliable lock, and battery is great. Planning to stick with this til there's a good stable gingerbread rom.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App

tiuk said:
It has indeed been a busy month. Not sure where to direct you for an across the board comparison, but as for myself i've read a lot of threads and am presently completely content running perception 10.1 with dg's firebird 2 kernel and jk4 modem on my i896. Everything works, including hspa in both directions, gps gets a fast reliable lock, and battery is great. Planning to stick with this til there's a good stable gingerbread rom.
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Thanks gents. I knew I was going to get roasted for this.

coldbeverage said:
Thanks gents. I knew I was going to get roasted for this.
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Once in a while, it's worth the roasting in order to get something like this going. In an ideal world, it is a great idea. Would be a nice place to do "One stop shopping". Maybe some ambitious individual will take it on.

It all depends on what you want
I just started flashing, so I didn't know a lot about the roms either, the advice they give to just jump in an start flashing is the best, it's scary at first but I started thursday and I'm already on my third flash Just read the documentation and watch install videos, follow all the steps, don't be lazy and you'll be fine.
I really like the new roms based on the rogers firmware just coming out, everything seems to work perfectly, I picked a great time to start flashing
Cognition 3.01 is really good and a clean android experience, but no HSUPA or firebird kernel
I just flash firefly 1.0 and this rom is sweet, HSUPA, great gps so far, though it does have some themed aspects I don't like, but I'm more concerned about functionality than themes.
Good luck finding what works for you.

i was where u are at not too long ago, and i did tons of reading
This guy might help you a little tho, he just started a youtube channel comparing Captivate roms ---> http://www.mobiletechvideos.com/ROM_s_in_a_FLASH_REVIEWS.html

cool thanks

http://capfaq.com/w/ROM_Table

coldbeverage said:
Is there somewhere with a Captivate ROM comparison? I've been away for a month and a half, and holy crap have things changed! I am soooo confused. Running Cog right now.
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I asked this a month ago and got flamed then my post got deleted. It was ridiculous.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA App

How is this development? Thread moved.
Also, threads about "which ROM is best" and "ROM features" tend to cause more trouble than they're worth, as we get the fanboi effect, and it turns into a flamewar. As such, they get closed to prevent trouble.
Look at the wiki, as that would be a good place to make a feature comparison. But remember that everyone's experience with a ROM is different. That's why you need to try it for yourself, and not just go by what someone else says
Oh, and remember to post in the right section next time, please.

[Q] What is the best Captivate ROM?

Which ROM is the best for the Captivate?
I have been running Assonance 5.2 since I rooted, but have recently been looking for something more. I have heard good things about Paragon and di11is ROM. I need full GPS functionality so ROMs without it are a dealbreaker.
Let the discussion begin.

I personally like darky's a lot. The most recent versions have added easier support for the captivate but may still need some work to get working. I love it though.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919816

Andromeda seems to be the overall top at the moment. I know we're supposed to say "its preference" but no bull**** its the most stable rom and the quickest.
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I'm aware of the FAQ, I've flashed ROMs, and unbricked my phone. Just trying to stimulate a lively discussion.

wmbenham said:
Just trying to stimulate a flame war.
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Fixed that for you, seriously just try them all based on what theme you like and what kernel features you need.

They all are good, some are better, all have bugs. Anyone who says other wise is lying to themselves

I really like serendipity. fast, stable, awesome.

ive tried cezars, cognition, and firefly out of those i liked cognition out of the box but loved firefly after some tweaks i think if u want stable go with one of the rogers 2.2 based roms

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Fixed that for you, seriously just try them all based on what theme you like and what kernel features you need.
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99% of the time no one starts a flame war except the people flaming the person who started the 'flame war'. Honestly though it is preference (although some ROMs are better then others stability wise)

praramis said:
ive tried cezars, cognition, and firefly out of those i liked cognition out of the box but loved firefly after some tweaks i think if u want stable go with one of the rogers 2.2 based roms
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I've found the same, big fan of Firefly right now, I used the firebird kernal with ADW launcher. It's about the best my phone has ever run.
The reality is that they all work a bit different on different phones, your going to have to experiment with a few to find the one that makes your phone happy. I understand how this seems strange, they should all be identical ( it's the same hardware right? ) but it's not so, for some reason they behave differently.
Good luck finding the combo for yours.

Check my signature. Results speak!

I've been using Darky's on my Captivate, and it's been running amazing so far.

How come no one mentioned Pheonix rising?! I've tried cognition but this seems better stable and fast. And With the GO launcher my life has really changed.
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Andromeda is really great. Can't say enough about it. turned my cappy into what I thought it would be when I bought it.

Yeah I'm a big Andromeda fan too. I also like Perception with the latest Speedmod kernel. I was running Paragon RC3 and got amazing battery life from it but overall it was kind of choppy and not as smooth as Andro and Perception/Speedmod. If I was going on a long trip I would flash Paragon and pop in my 3000mA battery. But as my daily driver I like Perception and Andromeda.

Keep coming back to Cognition 3.02. Just flashed Firebird Kernel because I wanted to enable HSUPA and Voodoo Sound. Went though I9000 JL3, JK4, and JK3 modems. In call volume on most I9000 modems are pretty low, but that can be fixed. However, I was having GPS problems with every modem I flashed, BUT, I came across the KP1 modem and it's working very well. Good call volume without tweaks, GPS lock in 10 to 15 seconds (within 10 to 15 meters accuracy), and solid upload/download (~1500 - 1700 kbps download / ~12000 kbps upload)
My phone really doesn't seem to like I9000 ROMS, though, and I've tried mostly all of them. Serendipity seemed to run the smoothest, but I didn't get good GPS performance so I went back to Cog 3.02, but that was before I came across the KP1 modem. I'll probably give Serendipity another try with the KP1 modem before too long.
Just like everyone says, it's all up to personal preference. I've had my Captivate for six weeks or so, and I'm starting to find out that the ROMs offered by the great developers who post on XDA are fantastic in and of themselves, but they can also be great starting points for you to find out what works on your personal device. Different kernels which support certain lagfixes, video and sound enhancements, and different modems are available so that each individual can find out what combination of ROM/Kernel/Modem works for them.

I haven't had my Captivate very long but I've flashed Cognition, Andromeda, and Serendipity already. The best so far for me in speed stability and appearance has been Serendipity. Just my opinion as everyones Captivate is different.

Serendipity bar none!!!

>>In call volume on most I9000 modems are pretty low, but that can be fixed.
How? By switching to a different modem, or what?
It would be nice if there were a chart that listed modems and kernals, showing the features in each and their compatibility with each other.
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Keep coming back to Cognition 3.02. Just flashed Firebird Kernel because I wanted to enable HSUPA and Voodoo Sound. Went though I9000 JL3, JK4, and JK3 modems. In call volume on most I9000 modems are pretty low, but that can be fixed. However, I was having GPS problems with every modem I flashed, BUT, I came across the KP1 modem and it's working very well. Good call volume without tweaks, GPS lock in 10 to 15 seconds (within 10 to 15 meters accuracy), and solid upload/download (~1500 - 1700 kbps download / ~12000 kbps upload)
My phone really doesn't seem to like I9000 ROMS, though, and I've tried mostly all of them. Serendipity seemed to run the smoothest, but I didn't get good GPS performance so I went back to Cog 3.02, but that was before I came across the KP1 modem. I'll probably give Serendipity another try with the KP1 modem before too long.
Just like everyone says, it's all up to personal preference. I've had my Captivate for six weeks or so, and I'm starting to find out that the ROMs offered by the great developers who post on XDA are fantastic in and of themselves, but they can also be great starting points for you to find out what works on your personal device. Different kernels which support certain lagfixes, video and sound enhancements, and different modems are available so that each individual can find out what combination of ROM/Kernel/Modem works for them.
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Captivate Roms, Need Info

OK guys, I need to know which roms are the best for the captivate and why. I am a Vibrant user and have been flashing for a while now, I have a buddy that has a captivate and wants to finally root and flash something spectacular,,,,
The problem is I don't know anything about the teams, and roms for captivate. Serious input please, no flaming or bashing, I really need the hard info,
Battery life, looks, ease of use, modems, kernels, etc...
Thanks

adamholden has some great ones like the: phoenix rom, firefly rom and the new supernova rom (running it awsome) also the serendipity rom

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OK guys, I need to know which roms are the best for the captivate and why. I am a Vibrant user and have been flashing for a while now, I have a buddy that has a captivate and wants to finally root and flash something spectacular,,,,
The problem is I don't know anything about the teams, and roms for captivate. Serious input please, no flaming or bashing, I really need the hard info,
Battery life, looks, ease of use, modems, kernels, etc...
Thanks
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+1 to Serendipity. It's a great all around ROM and doesn't have flashy themes taht look ugly. Just a very nice stock look and it has great battery life.

mobiletechvideo - rom in a flash reviews on youtube.

Most are really good, out comes down to opinion.

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+1 to Serendipity. It's a great all around ROM and doesn't have flashy themes taht look ugly. Just a very nice stock look and it has great battery life.
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Took a look at the serendipity rom, looks like a good rom, how stable have the roms from this developer been? And they include the voodoo lagfix from supercurio correct?

cjggilbert said:
Took a look at the serendipity rom, looks like a good rom, how stable have the roms from this developer been? And they include the voodoo lagfix from supercurio correct?
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Serendipity is stable. Mikey is very active with fixes. It uses hardcores kernel which uses ulk lag fix, which is similar to voodoo

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Serendipity is stable. Mikey is very active with fixes. It uses hardcores kernel which uses ulk lag fix, which is similar to voodoo
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Thanks for the quick response. ulk? have to research that one. But I do like what I have been reading in the serendipity thread.
Can you tell me anything about the pheonix rom? reading thru that one as well, and not seeing many bugs reported there either.
BTW leaving work now, won't be back on until tomorrow so if I don't respond again until tomorrow, Thanks for your input. I hit the thanks button on one of the other posts for you.

Phoenix uses same kernel, although an older version, and lag fix. Also stable also active dev. Matter of opinion as to which is better.
My two cents, currently my favorite 2 are paragon and stripped

IMO Andromeda v1.1 is an smooth stock like rom. 1.5 to 2 times the battery life from JH7 stock rom and better signal coverage.... it utilizes the 850mhz band better than the stock rom.

My vote is for Paragon...awesome and the kernel is super!
Phoenix is also a nice rom and the new Sucker Punch kernel seems to be doing great too.
I stopped using Serendipity a while ago as I did not like some of the changes that were introduced but I need to test the new versions.
I have tried pretty much everything else and those are my top too.
Currently testing Supernova.

Hi,
I was about to post a similar thread. I have an Evo & a buddy of mine who has a Captivate has been having some issues related to Android 2.1. Are these custom roms (Paragon, Phoenix, Serendipity) all Froyo 2.2 roms?
I am an Evo "Fresh Rom" user at first, now I stick with CM6.12 & try nightlies often as well.
Any advice for a solid 2.2 rom would be great!
Thanks,
Rich

I really recommend docs, I'll post link at the end, but I've had the best battery life and stability with it, also the rom kitchen is a huge selling point. You can generate a "cooked" rom with apps, modems, kernels, themes, boot animations, sounds, keyboards, tweaks, to your liking. With many of each to choose from. Very easy, with wipe and no wipe flashes available, pick and choose, don't like something then cook another, no biggie. Themes are most of the popular ones. I've cooked many myself, here is the link to the rom kitchen: http://romkitchen.org/capt/?s=home With out actually generating the rom you can select and choose to see your options. Hope this helps I will also post the roms link
Sent from cappy running docs gingerborg 9.1.8, hardcore k13A, jk4 modem.

I'm actually running gingerborgmod 9.1.8 its a cooked version from borg based off of docs, sorry I don't have link but you can search, he has been updating it with all the latest goodies, kernels etc. give either the kitchen a shot, or gingerborgmod. A shot don't think he'll be disappointed. Any questions just ask.
Sent from cappy running docs gingerborg 9.1.8, hardcore k13A, jk4 modem.

Tooka a look at Docs kitchen and pretty cool, would be better if I knew the specifics on all the stuff. Guess I need to do some research on the captivate modems, kernels, and other stuff

this is my setup.
Serendipity 5.8
Suckerpunch build #48 OC to 1.12ghz and undervolted
JL3 modem
and i find that i get better battery life with juice defender. some people hate it, but i seem to do better with it....
and with just basic usage, calling, texting websurfing, my phone has dropped 30% in 12.5 hours.

Another best rom thread? Come one guys we all know the deal with these. No one can tell you what will work best on any givin device. I will leave this one open for now. The first flame I see will have this thread closed and deleted.

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Another best rom thread? Come one guys we all know the deal with these. No one can tell you what will work best on any givin device. I will leave this one open for now. The first flame I see will have this thread closed and deleted.
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Thanks mod, I did specify no flaming in the op, also this isn't supposed to be about best rom but more for me to gather info, a starting point for my own research

Can someone recommend a 2.2 Rom? i am a little confused if the above listed roms are 2.1 or 2.2?

i'm currently using a cooked up ROM from the Kitchen, and so far it's my favorite Captivate experience. if you know what to do with it, it's nice, and regardless very sleek and smooth. Andromeda, Serendipity, and Firefly are all worth a chance too, some of my favorite ROMs

[Q] KI2 vs KJ3

So, I've been away without my Cappy and noticed SO many new roms. And I'm basically looking for i897 based roms (audience chip enabled) and see KI2 and KJ3.
Someone wanna tell me the difference?

Kj3 is newer.

mrhaley30705 said:
Kj3 is newer.
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Lolk. Changelog anywhere? What's new/better?

I forget right now.

mrhaley30705 said:
I forget right now.
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Trolling doesn't help.
Lol, someone else answer my question please?

Look, those releases were leaked in a very rapid fire manner.i'm talking all 3 for October on less than a week. It is hard to keep up with what was changed from one to another. Seeing as they are leaks, there not a change log to go by. It's more trial and error from the people using them.
As for trolling, I don't understand how you think that. I told you the biggest difference in them. What I told you is everything I know concerning them. I would imagine that kj3 has fewer bugs, as it is newer. I think it may also be 2.3.5.

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Trolling doesn't help.
Lol, someone else answer my question please?
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Not sure if I can help much, but I will say (in me opinion) the "KI" and "KJ" roms are not very impressive, KH3 seems to work pretty well, in particular Fasty II 1.9 (KH3 based) has worked the best on the two captivates I have, stable and among the best in battery life. May want to search and try it out, just search Fasty II, and grab version 1.9. Newer is not necessarily better.

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Not sure if I can help much, but I will say (in me opinion) the "KI" and "KJ" roms are not very impressive, KH3 seems to work pretty well, in particular Fasty II 1.9 (KH3 based) has worked the best on the two captivates I have, stable and among the best in battery life. May want to search and try it out, just search Fasty II, and grab version 1.9. Newer is not necessarily better.
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And I disagree with that. KJ3 is fast and very good with battery even at "stock"
My sister has the stock-leak release of KJ3 on her phone and she only went down to 72% battery after 12 hours of the phone being off the charger. She does a lot of texting. (I checked it last night)
I get slightly worse battery but thats cause I like checking out the forums constantly

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And I disagree with that. KJ3 is fast and very good with battery even at "stock"
My sister has the stock-leak release of KJ3 on her phone and she only went down to 72% battery after 12 hours of the phone being off the charger. She does a lot of texting. (I checked it last night)
I get slightly worse battery but thats cause I like checking out the forums constantly
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Ive been running KI2 for a while and has beet very good both performance and battery life. Im waiting a couple of weeks to see if a new leak drops, but if not ill go to KJ3 which is newer and Im guessing it has some bugs fixed.
Quick question, Im running KI2 and want to flash KJ# using the OneclickOdin package from IlluminatedOne, will it erase all my stuff?
Thanks

El Niche said:
Ive been running KI2 for a while and has beet very good both performance and battery life. Im waiting a couple of weeks to see if a new leak drops, but if not ill go to KJ3 which is newer and Im guessing it has some bugs fixed.
Quick question, Im running KI2 and want to flash KJ# using the OneclickOdin package from IlluminatedOne, will it erase all my stuff?
Thanks
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If I can recall correctly from the last time I used a OneClickPackage you won't lose anything except for root if you're on a rooted rom.

El Niche said:
Quick question, Im running KI2 and want to flash KJ# using the OneclickOdin package from IlluminatedOne, will it erase all my stuff?
Thanks
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The Odin packages from IlluminatedOne are "back to stock" packages so yes it will remove all your apps and system data but it will not erase your internal and external SD cards.

I'm running KJ3 with the Samurai kernel (OC'd to 1.25). It's been pretty good, but I think I may go to KH3 Pinnacle. KJ3 has a problem with the Gallery (black screen issue) and maybe the Browser FC'ing. Also, KJ3 uses more memory than KJ3. Pinnacle is a good build.

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I'm running KJ3 with the Samurai kernel (OC'd to 1.25). It's been pretty good, but I think I may go to KH3 Pinnacle. KJ3 has a problem with the Gallery (black screen issue) and maybe the Browser FC'ing. Also, KJ3 uses more memory than KJ3. Pinnacle is a good build.
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before going to Pinnacle, u shud give a try to Illuminatedone...its based on Kj3 and looks very solid...Ofcourse painnacle has far more features....but for performance and Battery, I would recommand IlluminatedOne

I did some looking around and came across a thread with a different Gallery3D.apk in it. Copied it over the one on the KJ3 rom and it works fine. Can't find the thread now, but I still have a copy of the file if anyone wants to try.

Is illuminance ROM audience chip enabled?

^ Yes...
When on a call (Not on speaker) select the hard menu button and then u can toggle the Noise Suppression On or Off.

pwneman said:
Trolling doesn't help.
Lol, someone else answer my question please?
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C'mon......Be kind. Lose the attitude.
MrHaley has been answering questions a heck of a lot more than all of us put together........
If you don't have time to read, and want quick answers, be thankful for people who take the time to answer. People could just ignore you, if you want.