[Q] Captivate, froyo, and root - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello chaps,
I apologize if there's a myriad of other threads covering this exact topic, I've been unable to find exactly what I need though.
This is a multi-criteria question.
First, I am sick of waiting for AT&T to get off their arses and get froyo out, so I want the most solid froyo you can give me to put on my phone. But there's a catch... I don't want to have to reinstall my apps and re-do all my contacts, settings, etc. Unless I can do it like an update and not a reinstall, I don't want to. It's just not worth the hassle for me. Finally, it has to be either rooted, or easily root-able. I'm running eclair rooted, and frankly, don't know why I didn't root sooner than I did.
So that's it. Maybe I'm smoking something, if so, let me know. The number 1 thing is that I don't want to have it erase my settings, apps, contacts, etc. that comes before all else.
Thank you very kindly, gentlemen. (and ladies, if applicable)
P.S. It's worth noting that I really only want flash player and for Skype to work. if you can fix both of those in 2.1 then that will work too. But, I would rather have all the extra bells and whistles in froyo.

this http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=858765
Use titanium backup to back everything up
I recommend this froyo based rom http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=900568

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so i have a lot of questions

so to start off, ill say i know absolutly nothing about linux, but i managed to root and flash modacos custom rom to my phone. i have no idea what any of the commands i used to do it mean, or how to use any of them to do anything else (other than removing a bunch of the crap that sprint puts on the phone, i managed to do that with the help of one of the other threads on here). anyways, ive got that done and am wondering what to do now. i came from a titan and am used to when im done flashing things, everything is totally different. like going from stock rom to having m2d and it being super sweet. with the new rom it seems like there isnt a lot of new stuff going on or a lot of changes. wifi tether works amazingly though. anyways, im done with the pointless ranting and heres what im trying to figure out....
1. are all of my contacts really saved to gmail? like all of the stuff from all of them? so if i hard reset, and just sign into my gmail account, will it reload all of my contacts? im used to pim backup and knowing that its all gonna be there after im done doing stuff (ive never used gmail before and am not sure how it works)
2. if i do a hard reset, do i need to redo everything like root and re-flash the custom rom or will all of that stay intact? will all of the sprint garbage like nascar be back on there after doing the cmd propmt remove of it or will i have to do that again? im not nessicarily worried about the apps that i have installed already so im not worried about that at all, i can find them later.
3. is there anything usefull that i can do with root that will increase performance or anything. like i said earlier, i dont know anything about linux , so is there like a list of comands somewhere to look through that might help me out?
4. does a2sd see your programs and automatically move them to the sd with the proper formatting of the sd card? i did the fat32, ext2 and swap. since i didnt know if it moved them over, i manually uninstalled everything and reinstalled them. after uninstalling everything i had 104 free and after reinstall i had 101.
5. would it be benificial to go ahead and do a hard reset, if the sprint crap is back on on all of that other **** that can be erased is back, get rid of that, and start from scratch to install all of my stuff i want. i dl a lot of **** that i uninstalled before. i hear linux is really good at installing and uninstalling things, but if ive dl'ed 75 things then uninstallled them, is there gonna be any garbage left on my phone from it? i know there was a lot of garbage left on the sd before i formated. actually, there was **** on there (on the sd) from progs i dl'ed and uninstalled awhile ago, even after formating so im thinging a hard reset would be helpful.
im sure ill have a lot more questions about this whole linux/android stuff sooo.....if people are trying to be helpful and help me out that would be awesome. if your going to be an asshole and blast me for my nubbish questions, dont bother.
thanks in advance
ix3u
The super-custom ROMS are on their way, they just take some time (we only got root this past weekend afterall!)
1.) Some contacts are saved to your phone, but I believe the default is to save it to gmail. You can check by going into the People App, click menu->View and the numbers should show you how much is on google and how many are on your phone.
2.) I'm afraid I'm not sure on a hard reset...I use Nandroid and if all else fails, the RUU to recover (Nandroid is just a snapshot in time...it will be however it was when you backed it up when you restore....while the RUU puts it back to true "factory", as if you just pulled it out of the box).
3.) There's a few things you can do to the UI settings that can increase performance, but the real performance gains are pending the release of the CDMA Kernel by HTC for us to play with and port some of the performance changes that were done to the GSM Kernel (Google for Teknologic's Kernel 1.8...it's included in MoDaCo 2.9). Teknologic kept a very good changelog and site describing some of the things he did and why.
4.) I have no experience with A2SD, but there's a bunch of threads about it...hopefully one of them will have teh answer you seek?
5.) I suppose a hard reset couldn't hurt...it would certainly rule a lot of things out when troubleshooting. I download a lot of apps too only to find I didn't like them enough to keep them and removed them. From what I can tell, it does clean up the application files pretty thoroughly on the OS partitions...the SD card I believe most apps leave alone on uninstall just to be careful not to delete too much because the SD card is designed for people to access and drop files onto, whereas the OS is meant to be managed by the OS...so it's just being careful to leave data on the SD card to play it safe rather than risk deleting someone's favorite picture of their kid or something.
Xda has been one of the more gentle forums I've seen in a long time. You're in good hands here. Hopefully some of that info was useful...if not, someone else will likely be along shortly to give better/more complete answers. ^_^

New Hero User ...... Requires A Little Guidance

Hey all,
I was really hioping someone could give me a hand.
I am due a delivery of a hero at somepoint today. Now from what i have read and researched, the hero is a little behind with the Android version and we are awaiting a new update from HTC. ( i don't want to go the custom ROM route, not just yet)
Now, if the HTC rep i spoke to is to be believed, we wont get the update until Mid-April earliest. that's a month of my contacts, settings etc etc that will be lost with a ROM update.
My question is this, Can anyone recommend a decent back-up utility for the Hero?
I don't mind paying for it, but i would prefere if it can save my mail settings (maybe the 3 internet settings too as they are a pain)
I have seen a few apps around to do it, but you never know unless you try.
i would rather not go the trial and error route on my contacts!
(i have also heard that the Hero comes with a pretty decent PC Sync utility to install to my PC that will take backups etc, any thruth to this?)
Thanks for your help guys,
TM411
"My Backup Pro" is a very good app (costs £4 ish i think) in the market. probably the best non rooted app you will find to back everything up.
If you were to root your phone you could use an app called "titanium backup" personally I haven not got on with it but a lot of people on this site love it (maybe I should give it a second chance?)
Google phones sync contacts with google by default (access via a pc @ www.google.com/contacts) so once your happy they are all on that website you never need to worry about backing them up on your phone ever again
Excellent,
thanks mate.
Quick question though, what is "rooting"
am i missing something simple?
TroubleMaker411 said:
Excellent,
thanks mate.
Quick question though, what is "rooting"
am i missing something simple?
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Rooting is the process that gives you more access to things that you normally can't do.
Once this is done it allows apps to control parts of the phone that normally cannot be touched which is why titanium backup is probably the most complete backup app there is.
It also allows you to install custom roms etc
Cool, thanks.
One last question then, sorry to be a pain.
Would you recommend going the custom ROM/rooted path?
If so, is there an Android 2.1/new HTC UI ROM around that you would recommend i have a butchers at?
Thanks again mate
TroubleMaker411 said:
Cool, thanks.
One last question then, sorry to be a pain.
Would you recommend going the custom ROM/rooted path?
If so, is there an Android 2.1/new HTC UI ROM around that you would recommend i have a butchers at?
Thanks again mate
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Installing a custom recovery image does no harm to your phone and will give you the option to backup and flash a custom ROM if you wish.
I would defiantly recommend doing it.
you can always restore to default anyway to remove it for some reason you wished to do so.
there are guides on this site and good videos on www.theunlockr.com to teach you how to do it. It is not hard and just gives you that choice of how to use your phone
Thank you
You have been extremely helpful.
It's much appreciated
TM411

[Q] COMPLETELY stock android rom

hey guys
so far im loving not being restricted by s-off anymore
i installed mike1986's rom and its great, but theres still too much sense in there for me, i want to try the phone with NO sense whatsoever, is this possible?? (i used no-sense 1.5 to remove as much sense as possible)
basically i want a google nexus s rom, which i will tweak with apps such as go sms etc.
the thing that annoys me is having options that i dont need (eg all the facebook integration in contacts which i wont use, same for gallery) - and so id rather have too few options than too many.
is this something that already exists or is possible? i couldnt find anything over in android development.
thanks
Why not get bloat freezer and freeze out all the crap, if you end up freezing something that causes instability at least you can unfreeze it again (well unless you freeze out something really critical, in which case you will need to revert to a backup).
ill do that, but as well as that i also want the stock gingerbread gallery and contacts apps, for example - as they don't have sense integration.
can anyone advise if theres an obvious reason this hasnt been done?
or if it has can someone point me in the direction of it?
thanks
go port an aosp for it and your done.
reason why it aint done, no tree for the incs has been created which is perfect atm
we are busy with it (heavily testing, attn1 and kali coding like mofo's etc.etc.) for cyanogenmod just wait...

[Q] Google+ on G1? Also I need a youtube.apk for G1

Hello. Well seems Google+ doesnt install to a G1... so anyone have a apk that would work for me to install it? Also my youtube for awhile has been messed up, I need to reinstall it, but dont have a apk or updated youtube apk for it if someone can point me in the right direction? Thanks. =)
(Over 2 years with my G1 and I have not had a desire to replace it yet, even tho I have higher end phones)
It doesn't? Please describe your problem in more detail, because I'm using it just fine, on the latest iteration of COS-DS.
Perhaps you need a more recent Android; if this is the case, having the apk would not help you much...
Same for me here, running G+ and YouTube, both installed from the market. Seems to me that these apps need a higher API-Level, i.e. Donut isn't supported.
Well I am still running my G1 on Enoms 1.6 build. Always worked best. So didnt change it. Granted Youtube.. Not sure WHAT happened. It just doesnt want to update the homescreen of it, getting like a parsing error on it. Thats why I am looking for that apk
As for G+ the market doesnt let me install it.
Love my G1 too much to replace it. G2 was a contender but that temp root thing turned me off.
Enom's roms were great, I liked them very much and I was using them until mid of last year. Unfortunately he stopped development and if you want to be up to date, you need to switch, and since Terry provided us with ezGingerbread, I switched to that. Performance / speed is comparable to Enom's roms and I am on the lastest Android version
Thats a great review. I may have to do that... Trick is, I worry.. I have over 100 apps installed heh. While I can download them to my PC. Just not sure what else would wipe. Or do you need to wipe for that upgrade?
Unfortunately yes, ... no chance to keep apps / data. Ok, TitaniumBackup may be an option, contacts and calander come from google, but it's still a bit of work to do.
In addition to that you would probably like to upgrade to the 1.33.0013d/2.22.28.25 combo to gain 14MB of available RAM(!), which will cause additional work and risks(?) ...
I'd have to say that as a user with over 150+ apps and no desire to trim the fat I'm very shortly back off to E-Xtreme and danger spl with 26I radio as nothing ever came close to being as good on my phone for me above 1.6 (Hell I'm even thinking of dropping back to Super D 1.9.3 with DarkStars theme if I can find it, that black google search box with the ghoshed white outer glow always was the sexiest thing ever lol) because if your a user from my experience with a load of apps and have a lot of home screens with shortcuts and widgets then Froyo and especially gingerbread just ain't for you plain and simple. I kill them all in minutes and I'm not exactly a beginner at this stuff, by no means an expert either but I know enough to know that me and gingerbread will never work and well for some of us thats just how it is.
Heh yea, same here. I love my G1 even tho its about 3 years old. 1.6 is fine for my everyday use. My HD2 tho.. just found the <3 Android I was looking for.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=957652 (Along with WM 6.5)
But then back to the main issue at hand. I need the Youtube apk for the G1 =/ Would be nice to least be able to use that again heh.
see maybe i will met
No one knows how to redo Youtube or fix it? =/
Here's a link to the Youtube.apk file. It's version 2.1.6.
http://www.mediafire.com/?rpet4zusa17xucb

[Q] Do I want to root, debloat, or do I need one to do the other?

I'm not as tech savvy as most of you, but I'm motivated because 1)I just can't stand buying something outright, then having someone else tell me how I can use it, and 2) I follow directions well.
I mostly use my phone to game and as a personal data assistant, with some web searching and very light Facebooking. I don't use ANY of the beaming/dongle/att suite/Samsung Suite, at all.
I got here because I use Clean Master, and it shows me constantly using in excess of 84% RAM, even though I've 'turned off' 63 force loaded apps. 63! And it keeps trying to force download stuff I've turned off. I'm ready to sail this freaking ad-machine into a wall.
So, do I want to root it and use a custom ROM, debloat it, or do I need to do one to do the other? I've done a lot of reading, and there is a ton of info, but it seems to be what to do after this decision point. If I root, does that wipe my phone, or does that happen when I install the custom ROM? Is there someone here who can walk me through it, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance for dealing with 'Mr. Newbtastic.'
Kamchak said:
I'm not as tech savvy as most of you, but I'm motivated because 1)I just can't stand buying something outright, then having someone else tell me how I can use it, and 2) I follow directions well.
I mostly use my phone to game and as a personal data assistant, with some web searching and very light Facebooking. I don't use ANY of the beaming/dongle/att suite/Samsung Suite, at all.
I got here because I use Clean Master, and it shows me constantly using in excess of 84% RAM, even though I've 'turned off' 63 force loaded apps. 63! And it keeps trying to force download stuff I've turned off. I'm ready to sail this freaking ad-machine into a wall.
So, do I want to root it and use a custom ROM, debloat it, or do I need to do one to do the other? I've done a lot of reading, and there is a ton of info, but it seems to be what to do after this decision point. If I root, does that wipe my phone, or does that happen when I install the custom ROM? Is there someone here who can walk me through it, or point me in the right direction?
Thanks in advance for dealing with 'Mr. Newbtastic.'
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All that searching and found nothing for such a popular group of questions.
You can force stop most of the Samsung bloat ware and disable it, but to fully get rid of it you need to root. How you get rid of it is a different question. 1) manually going through system files and deleting the apk and shtuff, 2) invest in titanium backup pro to freeze the apps, or uninstall them, 3) a popular choice, probably the easiest; flash a pre-debloated ROM, and surely you know how to search so thoroughly to find those.
Rooting does not wipe the device. Installing Safestrap, the only recovery available, does not wipe the device. Installing Xposed and its many modules does not wipe the device. Going into Safestrap recovery, selecting wipe, and factory resetting the device...will wipe the device...and is forcefully suggested by all ROM makers so that you can get a clean install... on a wiped device. Factory resetting is the default option and normally the only one needed for a clean install, and it will not touch your extSDcard, or all those precious pictures and songs that fill your device.
Of course, no one would flash a ROM so often if there was no way to back up all your apps and games and level 80 dark elf, which is exactly what Titanium backup is for. Buy the pro key and you don't have to individually backup or restore any app or data.
This pretty much rounded all bases.
Thank you very much. There's a Q&A post (and I read all 28 pages of it), but it seemed to deal with what happens after my question. Your answer is extremely helpful for those of us with less technical knowledge. Thanks, again!
Kamchak said:
Thank you very much. There's a Q&A post (and I read all 28 pages of it), but it seemed to deal with what happens after my question. Your answer is extremely helpful for those of us with less technical knowledge. Thanks, again!
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If no one asked questions, there'd be no answers. Glad to help ?

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