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iPhone Power User to Android Noob: Few Questions...

Sorry I'm a little noobish when it comes to Androids (trying to come over from an iPhone).
I understand rooting. But... Can you tell me advantages/disadvantages of all these ROMS? Do some have the latest radio firwmare and some don't? I thought I read I could also modify these ROMs as well. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks

legaleye2005 said:
Sorry I'm a little noobish when it comes to Androids (trying to come over from an iPhone).
I understand rooting. But... Can you tell me advantages/disadvantages of all these ROMS? Do some have the latest radio firwmare and some don't? I thought I read I could also modify these ROMs as well. I would appreciate some insight. Thanks
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You can do anything. If you read the forums you will learn a lot more than any 1 person here could ever teach you in one post. Happy reading.
P.s. posts like this are frowned upon around where when you could have searched.

ROMs are just modified versions of the standard firmware the developers that make them bundle certain apps with them and make some slight changes. IIRC they are all rooted.
I think the radio firmware can be updated seperatly as i downloaded the HTC radio directly from the HTC website.

There is a thread here that tries to chart the differences between builds (the name "rom" is kind of a misnomer).
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=517506
Also, for community ("hacked"/"rooted") builds, they generally don't include the radio. You would update the radio and bootloader separately. The official builds tend to include radio and or bootloader updates.

http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692
This should help you out with any information on Firmwares, its alot better then a stupid chart.

Just do yourself a favor.. Do not Flash before you read the entire thread. Because you may find your new G1 is a brick.
If you want something or want to upgrade SPL or Recovery or Rom Make sure you competely read the thread you may find that other users that have previously flashed that particular item will give feedback.

Mast3rmatt said:
http://allshadow.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=9&t=5692
This should help you out with any information on Firmwares, its alot better then a stupid chart.
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that link also links to the same "stupid" chart. btw that chart is great for deciding which build suits your needs the best

I was sorta kindling.....
My thread has all the information and MORE. The chart is helpful but you can't get any helpful links with it. My thread has information/my thoughts/ and updates on how to find the newest firmware.

*slaps himself in the back of the head

[Q] Is there a list of roms that are updateable thru ROM MGR clockwork?

Im sorry but I Didnt see a thread dedicated to this feature. I apologize in advance if this has been covered elsewhere.
Y!S

All roms are flashed via CWM unless they say to do it differently in their thread. CM7 is about the only one that's not done this way.
Nobody gives install instructions anymore since it should be common knowledge if you did your research.
Also, this is NOT a development question. We have a Q&A section for these types of questions.

all custom roms come with CWM built into the kernel.
once you have a custom rom you DONT USE rom manager anymore.
also this is the DEVELOPMENT section.
DO NOT POST QUESTIONS HERE!!!
questions go in Q&A

axis01 said:
All roms are flashed via CWM unless they say to do it differently in their thread. CM7 is about the only one that's not done this way.
Nobody gives install instructions anymore since it should be common knowledge if you did your research.
Also, this is NOT a development question. We have a Q&A section for these types of questions.
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Trusselo said:
all custom roms come with CWM built into the kernel.
once you have a custom rom you DONT USE rom manager anymore.
also this is the DEVELOPMENT section.
DO NOT POST QUESTIONS HERE!!!
questions go in Q&A
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you guys are misunderstanding his question, ROM manager is capable of sending out OTA's for individual ROM's if the ROM creator implements this feature. as far as I know, there are yet to be any ROM's that use this in the Captivate section, though please tell me if I'm wrong. CM7 will use this feature once it's capable of using ROM manager through a properly functioning param.ko
as for you two, no need to be so aggressive/rude. you didn't answer his question properly and were a bit extreme in your judgment toward him. but as for you OP, they are correct in that this isn't truly related to development and is more suited to "General" or "Q&A" from now on.

my point was nobody uses rom manager after stock anymore.
if someone cant properly post, they wont get a full complete answer

TRusselo said:
my point was nobody uses rom manager after stock anymore.
if someone cant properly post, they wont get a full complete answer
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Hey TRusselo you have gone beyond making it known that I posted in the wrong section but no matter how I look at your answers you still come across as a big fat jerk. There isnt any need whatsoever for you to post that.. and then to come back and repeat yourself with another entry saying the SAME thing and MAINTAINING the attitude.. you got my attention.
Kaik541 did answer my question. I was wondering if any devs have used this feature in rom manager. For over the air updates.
As to the reason why I posted in the DEVs section was because i thought that it was a development question. ROMS updated over the air thru ROM MANAGER is implemented by DEVELOPERS. It stands to reason why i have not seen any notes in any DEVELOPERS release and that is apparently no DEVELOPERS are using this feature. I hope that I made it understood as to WHY I posted in the dev section. I am now more familiar with the rules so I do beg your pardon for posting in the wrong place.
Nightly builds that can be updated over the air seems like it would really be something that a DEV would utilize with all the tweeks contently done to these roms. I for one look forward to having such a useful tool.

yahooserious said:
Nightly builds that can be updated over the air seems like it would really be something that a DEV would utilize with all the tweeks contently done to these roms. I for one look forward to having such a useful tool.
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Nightly builds aren't considered updates. They are made so the flash happy people have something else to play with and test for the devs. They aren't meant for everyone to use as DD's. Utilizing this feature for nightlie's would end up with TONS of questions from newbs that don't know how to fix what they just did.

This has been brought up a few times and to be honest with all the possible issues that could come across from OTA updates like flashing a bad file cause you lost connection for a split sec and didn't notice, I wouldn't use it. The first att OTA update proved this. Thousands of bricks, then it was released by Kris update. Alot less bricks.

Where can i found Official ROM and Question about Root.

Please, could let me know if there are pure official roms for HTC Incredible S ?
And the program to install it ?
I did not find, I'm new to the forum and I searched but could not find one.
So far only found customizations.
Second question:
If I make the root HTC Incredible S, I lose the OTA updates?
Sorry my english, i'm from Brazil and dont speak very well.
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OK, I found the official rom. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1033922).
How to know which should I use?
I want a rom without customization, (and the program to install )?
And about the root, i lose OTA updates ?

Welcome to XDA, i see it is your first post.
i would suggest going through the Android development forum and checking out all the ROMs there.
Not sure why you are looking for 'pure official ROMs'
if you have an IS & you have not done anything with it, then you are using a pure & official ROM.
i guess you now are looking for a 'pure & great ROM' made by some quality development here.
yes, you will probably not receive any OTA as you are no longer on the stock rom.
even if u can do not update. the rom developer will provide an update soon.
go have a look & see which rom interests you
also, EVERYTHING you need about almost every query is answered... either in the general or development section.
Look around or use the search, am sure you'll find what you looking for
happy rooting & romming!

Best place to obtain malware free stock ROMs

Newby question
Hello, folks, where is the best place to obtain malware free stock Samsung ROMs? There are two sites I've seen with stock* ROMS for my carrier, buy I'm not sure how safe they are? I've searched the forms and can't find a concise listing of the best sites to obtain stock ROMS from. Two sites I've see that I'm curious about are:
Samsugupdates.com.* &
Sammobile.com.
Any help will be appreciated. Tx

Sammobile.com is free of malware/viruses

Thank you for your quick response, I haven't been back on the board. I ended up getting a ROM. I haven't run the phone through its paces, but I have upgraded it to the most current OS. Have you heard iv any issues with the AndroidRootz site? Again, thanks for your response.

Everything you need can be found here on xda. I would be skeptical about downloading a rom from almost anywhere else.

As stated by other users, this is the place to get roms for your device. I've been using xda for years and have never had any issues related to security from any rom on xda built by any developer here on any device I've used. Additionally, in almost every case, roms here that aren't stock or have been built from stock sources will implement security and bug fixes before stock OTA updates.

Bruce lee roy said:
Everything you need can be found here on xda. I would be skeptical about downloading a rom from almost anywhere else.
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t83wood said:
As stated by other users, this is the place to get roms for your device. I've been using xda for years and have never had any issues related to security from any rom on xda built by any developer here on any device I've used. Additionally, in almost every case, roms here that aren't stock or have been built from stock sources will implement security and bug fixes before stock OTA updates.
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This ^^

Anyone else getting the feeling there will be no Nougat for our device?

I have a sixth sense for when a device has been all but abandoned, and I am getting that feeling now. Considering they just released a huge MIUI update without the Mix, I can't say I am particularly hopeful for the future of this phone. May be time to throw it up on swappa while it's still worth something.

Mimimi

loudog3114 said:
I have a sixth sense for when a device has been all but abandoned, and I am getting that feeling now. Considering they just released a huge MIUI update without the Mix, I can't say I am particularly hopeful for the future of this phone. May be time to throw it up on swappa while it's still worth something.
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The "huge MIUI update" you are referring to is MIUI 8.2. If you check your device info, you'll see that the Mix is already running MIUI 8.2. This is why you didn't see the Mix in the list of updated devices.
Now, regarding the Nougat update, considering Xiaomi built a lot of hype with the Mix, it is unlikely that Xiaomi will abandon this device.
But Xiaomi has a history of abandoning some really good devices like the MiPad. So we'll never know.

Well, no, its 8.2 global. A global rom doesn't even exist for the Mix. So I consider that a huge update.

N for the mix is already in testing according to mods on the eu and official forum. Also recently saw a listing for the mi mix EVO with a qc835, plus the CEO wants to build another mix....My gut feeling is this phone isn't going anywhere and we will have N within a quarter. Remember the s7 just got N on carriers in the US this week.

satishp said:
The "huge MIUI update" you are referring to is MIUI 8.2. If you check your device info, you'll see that the Mix is already running MIUI 8.2. This is why you didn't see the Mix in the list of updated devices.
Now, regarding the Nougat update, considering Xiaomi built a lot of hype with the Mix, it is unlikely that Xiaomi will abandon this device.
But Xiaomi has a history of abandoning some really good devices like the MiPad. So we'll never know.
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I just got my device, and i see that i have MIUI Global 8.0. 8.0.8.0.0. Dies that mean that my phone is Running outdated version? When i try to uppdate it says no uppdates awailable... I am from Norway, if it helps.

FartingAngel said:
I just got my device, and i see that i have MIUI Global 8.0. 8.0.8.0.0. Dies that mean that my phone is Running outdated version? When i try to uppdate it says no uppdates awailable... I am from Norway, if it helps.
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Fake vendor rom

Razorbacktrack5535 said:
Fake vendor rom
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Oh.. that does not sound any good. Do you think it can have something to do with norwegian language/menus?
Should i change ROM? I mean is it a lot to gain on it or is it the same thing? And if i do, will i be able to get norwegian language? I am completelly noob do need all the answers with a tea spoon
I also wonder why the phone does not sudgest an uppdate for 8.2 - does it mean that i cant uppdate my phone for future?

FartingAngel said:
Oh.. that does not sound any good. Do you think it can have something to do with norwegian language/menus?
Should i change ROM? I mean is it a lot to gain on it or is it the same thing? And if i do, will i be able to get norwegian language? I am completelly noob do need all the answers with a tea spoon
I also wonder why the phone does not sudgest an uppdate for 8.2 - does it mean that i cant uppdate my phone for future?
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You won't receive any updates as long as you're on the Vendor ROM. You need to flash to the EU ROM or one of the custom ROMs in this forum using the guides provided. The guides are quite straightforward. So you'll safely boot the ROM you want providing you follow the guides EXACTLY.
I personally prefer the Xiaomi.EU ROM and I just checked the languages available on this ROM for you. Found "Norsk Bokmal" in the list of available language options. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this is Norwegian. I am not sure though as I don't know the language.
Cheers!

satishp said:
You won't receive any updates as long as you're on the Vendor ROM. You need to flash to the EU ROM or one of the custom ROMs in this forum using the guides provided. The guides are quite straightforward. So you'll safely boot the ROM you want providing you follow the guides EXACTLY.
I personally prefer the Xiaomi.EU ROM and I just checked the languages available on this ROM for you. Found "Norsk Bokmal" in the list of available language options. Correct me if I am wrong, but I believe this is Norwegian. I am not sure though as I don't know the language.
Cheers!
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Ty! Norsk bokmål it is )
I will try tomorrow.. the only sad thing is that i have to root and than i cant play pokemon go with my litle brother anymore :/

satishp said:
But Xiaomi has a history of abandoning some really good devices like the MiPad. So we'll never know.
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Whilst in no way invalidating the examples of times when their support wasn't great, there have also been times when Xiaomi's support for their devices has been well-above-average - someone recently posted a thread on reddit detailing one such example.
So we can't read too much into previous devices as a guide for what will happen with the Mix.
These sorts of threads appear for almost every device - it doesn't matter which device or which manufacturer, they inevitably pop up. People convince themselves they know what's going to happen and, most of the time, they're wrong.
Not to mention, Xiaomi have publicly stated the Mix will be one of their devices to be updated to Nougat.
A pretty unnecessary thing to say if they're secretly planning to ignore it.

FartingAngel said:
Ty! Norsk bokmål it is )
I will try tomorrow.. the only sad thing is that i have to root and than i cant play pokemon go with my litle brother anymore :/
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Rooting the phone is not a necessity to flash the EU ROM.. You should flash the dm-verity and forced encryption disabler patch on TWRP if you don't plan to root. Follow the guides exactly and you'll be fine.

satishp said:
Rooting the phone is not a necessity to flash the EU ROM.. You should flash the dm-verity and forced encryption disabler patch on TWRP if you don't plan to root. Follow the guides exactly and you'll be fine.
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Ok, ty for pointers! I have not full understandig of what the different words mean when it comes to flash, twrp and even root. I will have to read a lot before starting.
But i have to root in order to get epic rom, right?

FartingAngel said:
Ok, ty for pointers! I have not full understandig of what the different words mean when it comes to flash, twrp and even root. I will have to read a lot before starting.
But i have to root in order to get epic rom, right?
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No, you have to unlock your bootloader only and flash TWRP using fastboot. But after installing Epic you're rooted anyway. Epic is pre rooted. For unlock procedure google unlock Xiaomi for example. Best is you start here:
http://en.miui.com/unlock/
Gesendet von meinem Xiaomi Mi MIX

Mine updated to 8.2.2.0 OTA just fine soon after I got things setup [it wanted or offered the update soon after being turned on - but I needed to sort stuff out first]. Abandoned ... hardly ... having run 7 on the Honor 8 and the Mate 9 ... its not THAT huge a thing to wait for it to come along through the usual process. Give it time and be patient, phones only a few months old anyways.