I'm currently rooted and on the stock rom. I'm usually fine with this stuff, but not used to all this bootable SD stuff. Which of these two are better right now?
In terms of
1. Ease of install
2. Does flash work
3. Does wi-fi work
4. How much extra work to get these things working
and should I do it?
Hey... They're both about the same amount of "ease" to install - Froyo Took a bit more tweaking to get it to where I wanted it, and the touchpad seems to be less sensitive than in Honeycomb..which is kind of annoying... but at least I have Flash and Youtube in 2.2
Honeycomb has no Flash, and Youtube has yet to work for me. YMMV w/Youtube, but from what I've seen Flash APKs are 100% unsuccessful because of a missing "GOOGLE_PLUGIN" that no one seems to have an explanation for at this time.
tldr; I did SDCard installs, and I like Honeycomb (No Flash, No YT) better than Froyo (Has Flash/YT) on the Tablet, and may go back to it if I can survive without Flash and Youtube on my Nook. All of my other apps worked fine.
Do it if you have a spare micro SD laying around Just to check it out.
I still have 2.1 (stock + autonooter) on the internal memory of the NC.
buffnutz1 said:
I'm currently rooted and on the stock rom. I'm usually fine with this stuff, but not used to all this bootable SD stuff. Which of these two are better right now?
In terms of
1. Ease of install
2. Does flash work
3. Does wi-fi work
4. How much extra work to get these things working
and should I do it?
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I Completely agree. Flash and youtube are the only things that keep me in froyo. but i will be on HC full time as soon as we get those two.
I have a micro SD card that I keep for spare space on the nook. When I put the images on the card, can I no longer save stuff on them or how does that work?
buffnutz1 said:
I have a micro SD card that I keep for spare space on the nook. When I put the images on the card, can I no longer save stuff on them or how does that work?
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You'll want to use more than one SD card if you're going to really start messing with HC/Froyo builds -- most of which require formatting the SD card to install a bootable image (either for CWM-to-emmc installs, or running the builds on the SD itself).
Read the following post to see how I leverage two SD cards to enjoy both stock and HC builds, while using one of them for just storage:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11293972&postcount=48
Good luck.
1. Ease of install
Both are equal in this respect
2. Does flash work
Only in Froyo
3. Does wi-fi work
Both again
4. How much extra work to get these things working
You can do it manually or just download the script from the developers forums but you need to install the Market yourself, not very hard at all
and should I do it?
I like froyo and honeycomb a lot more than the stock eclair. Do note, battery life in honeycomb is worst than froyo/eclair (at least in my own experience) but does seem a bit snappier. Froyo is faster and snappier than eclair as well. I think you should do it
MattJ951 said:
Do note, battery life in honeycomb is worst than froyo/eclair (at least in my own experience) but does seem a bit snappier. Froyo is faster and snappier than eclair as well. I think you should do it
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According to the battery monitor (Settings > About phone > Battery usage, tap the graph on top of the screen) the current Honeycomb build is keeping the tablet permanently awake, so it's not surprising that the battery life is bad, it'll drain even while not in use and lasted about 24h total for me. Once that can be fixed to properly suspend, it should get much better.
So if I use the froyo flashable zip, what would it have to do after to have it work normal and have flash run?
Btw thanks everyone. This is much easier then going through 100 pages for a few answers.
buffnutz1 said:
So if I use the froyo flashable zip, what would it have to do after to have it work normal and have flash run?
Btw thanks everyone. This is much easier then going through 100 pages for a few answers.
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You'll have to install the market. After that anything you need can pretty much be downloaded from there
Related
Copied here, cos it was posted wrongly elsewhere.
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Hello all, sorry if this is a basic question, but wasnt able to find any results.
Over the past few days, I have been staying up late almost every single night and trying out different ROMs in this forum.
1. The Dude's ROM
This rom looks nice, but almost all applications crashed like nuts. Then I realised the developer has gone on a vacation, so cant really use this.
2. Cyan's ROM
Fast, but still uses SD for theapps. I have a class 2 sdhc, and that isnt fast enough and hence the apps are a bit slow to respond. Crashes are much much lesser than #1.
3. Hero's ROMs
Very well made, fantastic ROM, absolutely stunning UI but again dependency on the SDCARD is immense and is thus a limitation to me. Also I saw the actual HTC Hero has much higher ROM space (512mb compared to 288 of Dream/G1 and more ram 256 vs 198 of G1) and hence is much better suited to run the HTC's Rosie.
So now I think my needs would want me a basic android cupcake ROM without much fancy stuff. The bare minimum. Do we have such a ROM?
If we do, please let me know.
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Update : I am looking for a base android system with root. If possible maybe start building on something. I have experience tweaking kernels on a desktop , but has _never_ tried anything mobile.
I was suggested to use Haykuro's 6.0r1 , but it does use apps2sd and so does cyan's rom.
Well my idea is to find/create a ROM which would be light and fast and we could do some work optimizing the kernel for faster loads and quick runs.
Any suggestions, guides, materials on how to start would be greatly helpful.
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Goal : A quick to boot, fast ROM with low battery consumption.
The search button is your friend.
Visit JF's blog
Search for JF 1.51 =]
Here to save you some time:
http://andblogs.net/2009/05/jfv151-images-are-out/
JF tends to work on the stock roms, and just roots it, with very minor modifications. But super stable, fast, and works excellent.
Haykuro's ion rom
Use Haykuro's IOn Rom its fast stable and just your basic android goodness
avallark said:
I was suggested to use Haykuro's 6.0r1 , but it does use apps2sd and so does cyan's rom.
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Actually, most ROMs that make use of some form of A2SD (apps on SD cards) do so conditionally. Both Haykuro and cyanogen have ROMs that put the /system/app directory on the SD card only if the SD card has a prepared ext2/3 partition present at boot. What this means is that if you are using a regular SD card, or if you repartition your card as FAT32, then the ROM will not implement A2SD.
However, I am in agreement with you for the gist of the request. I would also like to see an optimized ROM based on AOSP (like cyanogen or TheDude), but one that implements fewer customizations. Personally, I am currently using cyanogen's 3.9, which has great performance, and the fastest boot times I have had from any other ROM. It seems to run through the battery a little faster than others, but it is the best so far.
jf or cyanogen
even though u have an class 2 apps2sd would work good. i had a lame stock 1gig tmo gives with the fone and i had no problem with it. or jf as close to stock as possible
You do know that Apps2SD is not a requirement for CyanogenMod, right? If you have a single Fat32 partition on your card, Apps2SD is disabled and all apps will go to the phone's internal memory. Of course in this case you are limiting yourself to the amount of apps you can have installed at any given time due to the relatively small space left on the intmem after the OS is installed. Also, if you install too many apps your phone will start slowing down considerably because the apps basically eat up the available RAM.
Personally, half the reason for rooting my phone in the first place was running apps on SD card. My co-worker has yet to root his G1 and he constantly has to juggle apps and games so that he can have at least 10MB internal memory free, otherwise his phone starts slowing down to a crawl.
I'm working on an HTC ADP version of what you seek!
I've had two other people ask for this from me!
I create a "US specific" version for T-Mobile Users.
See thread (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456).
Would you be interested in a HTC ADP plain rooted (no features) version? I'm trying to gauge the need here ?
I'm tryin to finish a lite version of ion. I don't think I can strip anything else out without it breaking. The whole purpose behind the lite version will be to put what customizations you want on it. It a lot slimmer than a standard jf release.
soulife's ion - probably another good bet
Soulife's ION build (lite), (as it sounds), would also be a another good build for you likely!
He makes/ports good/stable ROM's.
pistol4413 said:
i had a lame stock 1gig tmo gives with the fone and i had no problem with it.
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Lol I still use this P.O.S. It's actually not too bad since I haven't experienced the greateness of a class 6 card. I'm happy with my G1 performance.
did you try this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=538456
and I just rooted someone's phone with a stock 1gb no class card and it runs Cy3681 great. Compcache is the best.
where can i get the default g1 wallpapers? i realize how dumb that sounds but ive googled them, looked for them in the themes section, and searched through the files of the 25 or so builds i have downloaded from here...i am not smart.
I also wanted a stock rom with just root and without the piles of shi.... code that are being piled on top of the custom builds. I found two easy ways to it;
1. JF's roms. All he does is root it and release it. Unfortunately, for the cupcake builds, he got the awful idea of talking with crazy narcissist haykuro and actually implemented a2sd on 1.51 and 1.51r2. Getting rid of it is nastily simple, though. Just delete a2sd from /system/bin and you're done.
2. Get a dump of an official OTA rom, put the modified su binary in /system/bin, superuser.apk on /system/app, and pack it with a rooted boot.img, or if you can modify kernel (i don't know that much linux) root your own boot.img. Look through somebody else's update-scripts so you can make your own (I've found cyanogen's and JF's to be amongst the cleanest, easiest to read and figure out).
soulife, I'd love to see what you come up with. I have among my stash of experimental stuff a slimmed down ION r2 that only kept a few apps (Phone, contacts, browser, mms, cameras, and settings), but quickly felt that there really was no reason to slim it down so bare. With ION, there's still a lot of space left in system, even with a stock spl, and after an install it's never used again, so I felt I should be adding instead of removing apps than let that empty space go to waste, specially since there's really no replacement or improved app for the ones that were removed
I suggest you go out and buy a new micro sd card, preferably a class 4 or 6 micro sd card. Then you can really begin enjoying the capabilities of root.
4gb class 4 by adata for 12 bucks i believe on newegg.
8gb transcend class 6 for $19, also on newegg.
i just switched back to JF 1.51 with the hero theme 1.4.5. I think it might still have the a2sd script in it but it's optional, but boot time is MUCH faster than cyanogens current builds.
The stock ION and Rogers ROMs are good as well, but I do enjoy the hero theme on JF , although the Rogers dialer is a great thing to have.
jubeh said:
I also wanted a stock rom with just root and without the piles of shi.... code that are being piled on top of the custom builds.
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Wow...**** code. Who'd a thunk that people would be modifying stock ROMs on a developers forum. If you are going to debase a developers work, at least specify which developer. The way your statement reads, nothing but crap comes out of this forum.
I have a brand new Nook, freshly Rooted. As Im getting into the meat of hacking this thing I see that Froyo can be installed via SD or on the EMMC. Which would be the better direction and why?
I should note that if installed on SD I would be installing it on a 32gb Class 10 MicroSD.
If you put it on the EMMC then you will loose all B&N functionality that the NookColor came with. No NookKids and no magazines. You can use the Nook android app in Froyo but I personally like the NookColor's applications. Once we can port these apps to the Froyo build I would switch. Froyo seems to run better with Jit and other optimizations
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If you put it on the EMMC then you will loose all B&N functionality that the NookColor came with. No NookKids and no magazines. You can use the Nook android app in Froyo but I personally like the NookColor's applications. Once we can port these apps to the Froyo build I would switch. Froyo seems to run better with Jit and other optimizations
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So does this mean that if it is installed via sd that the NC wont lose the B&N stuff it came with? Or are you saying it's all gone either way and to wait if we don't to lose the things?
slugbug2010 said:
So does this mean that if it is installed via sd that the NC wont lose the B&N stuff it came with? Or are you saying it's all gone either way and to wait if we don't to lose the things?
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It doesn't "install" via SD, it's booting from there(bypassing the internal memory entirely). That way you can just pop out the SD card and voila, the nook boots whatever is on the internal memory.
The SD method is good because you don't risk leaving some trace on the device if you have to return it under the warranty (or for being able to access B&N apps and boot froyo).
As it sits right now, Nookie Froyo on the internal memory(emmc) is a bit of a pain to do. Heed the giant red FOR DEVELOPERS ONLY warnings. If you want to get a taste of what it will be like, just install it to a SD card.
Work is progressing on an "update.zip" which will completely flash the internal memory with NF, in a sane and safe manner(no bricks!), via Clockworkmod Recovery. This is the same way that all Android devices get flashed.
The B&N apps are not available in NF, and I would not expect them to be - they seem to rely on quite a few incompatible framework changes, in much the same way that Sense UI's widgets can't be used on a Cyanogenmod phone. If it means THAT much to you, just stay with stock.
Thanks for the replies. Looks like SD is the way to go... for now.
Does anyone know how to test if a bootable sdcard with nookie honeycomb actually works before you test it out on the nook color? thnx
btw i used the process that was on this site http://theunlockr.com/2011/02/07/how-to-load-honeycomb-android-3-0-on-the-nook-color-usd-method/
Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.
ryspy8492 said:
Not sure why you need to test it before putting it in the nook. If you're worried about doing any harm to the nook it's really not possible. Just put the card in and try to boot. If it doesn't boot take the card out and boot up normally, no harm no foul.
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I second this. By default, all the Main Roms for Nookie Froyo and Nookie Honeycomb have no features enabled that will touch your Nook Color. The only thing it touches on the NC is the Cache Partition in order to prevent too many writes to the SD and to also speed things up. Anything done there won't screw up your NC in a Million years and Switching back to Stock and doing a few things will wipe any evidence. Or if really paranoid you can Flash back to Factory to ensure all is wiped.
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thnx u guys, But i have another problem. i succesfully installed the honeycomb and got it to work on the nook color. But when I go to my computer with the sd card plugged in, it says that i only have 115 mb of data on the card. I have an 8 gb card. It's not left on the card, it says 115 mb out of 115 mb of data, even after i deleted everything. Anybody know how to restore it back to the 8 gb data amount thnxx
NookColor Format and partition your SD card back to a usable state
Opinion
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.
I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.
Well...its very promising for being in the early stages of development
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Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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jlt220 said:
Since the OP seems to have been answered, I'd like to piggy back a bit
Been doing some reading on the forums and I have started to vision myself getting in to the nook color honeycomb idea.
But a few questions first...
How well has it worked for anyone who has tried, is it a daily driver yet or too many issues? I have a SGS captivate so I am not too worried about having to mess with it before it works and I can use my phone to access email and all that.
But is it quick and snappy or will I feel like i'm using an underpowered device after using my phone.
And battery life, is it good, acceptable, or what?
Sorry if these have been answered somewhere else i tried to find the answers, but it's getting late and I have work yet to do tonight.
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i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
bratliff said:
I installed it to emmc..over clocked it's still sluggish. Kinda cool but not a keeper to me.my droid x blows it away on performance. I will be back on phiremod beta 2 soon. Honeycomb is fun to tinker but not primetime. Remember it is not from aosp..missing features. It is amazing how good it isconsidering.
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if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great
luigi90210 said:
i use honeycomb as a daily driver and if you install V2 on the emmc from samuallhaff(not 100% sure of his username off the top of my head) it runs smooth and it is really clean
i get the stock all day battery life(mainly it just sits in my bag when im in class but i have wifi always on so i dont disconnect from my schools wifi) and web browsing is amazing(it doesnt have flash though not a deal breaker though imo)
just dont use live wall papers and set CPU because they drain battery life faster and they diminish performance big time
if you have setCPU or a live wallpaper installed on honeycomb it diminishes performance by 100%
i noticed this performance boost after i uninstalled setCPU and removed my live wallpaper from my honeycomb install and so far it has been great
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I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.
tylrdoan said:
Will i still have honeycomb on my NC if i format it?
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I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.
SD Card Partitions
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition
fugitoid said:
I just realized that you are running HC from your SD card.
No, if you format that SD card, you lose HC. It actually mentions that in the procedure you linked in your original post.
The reason you only see 115MB on the card when you mount it on your Windows computer is because Windows can only see the first partition, the boot partition, that was written to that SD card as part of the procedure you followed. The rest of the space is taken up by partitions Windows can't see without help.
So if you want to continue to run HC off the SD card you have to dedicate that SD card just for running HC.
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i was wondering if i put honeycomb on my nook color, not on the sdcard, how would i do it. The instructions on that site only says how to make a bootable sd card. And i was using HC on a level 4 sd card and it said that u need a level 6. But i was still able to get it to run. The honeycomb on the sd card level 4 was pretty slow. i was wondering if i got it on my NC, would it be faster. If it would, can someone show me how?
Just follow the instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=947071
bratliff said:
I will remove set cpu and report back. I thought it was needed for oc.
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Nope lots of lag still. Its ok not complaining. Lots of fc in dolphin too. Back to phiremod 2.2 for awhile.
You have to remember that the Honeycomb that was Ported is the Preview Release, think Demo version. It wasn't ported from (pretty much)scratch like Froyo was. It is more of a Rom hack. For a better performing version we have to wait for Honeycomb's Official Full release. In perspective, it's amazing how much deeper-blue got done with just the Preview image.
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GonzoTheNose said:
while installing the image 3 patitions will be written on your sd-card.
1) root partition
2) honeycomb
3) fat32-partition
to use the full size of the sd-card use a partition manager to extend the fat32-partition.
installed apps can than transferred to the fat32-partition
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Not picking on you but it's actually 4 partitions.
1=Boot (Basically redirects to the Android on the SD)
2=System (Holds the main OS files of Honeycomb)
3=Data (Where all you're settings and other data are)
4=SDcard (This partition is used as a stand in for a Physical External SDcard)
Also the easiest/simplest way to access the 2, 3, and 4 partitions is to use linux. Burn a LiveCD if you don't want to Install, although Ubuntu can be Installed without Partitioning or other such normal 2nd OS needs. Just get the Windows installer from http://ubuntu.com
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SD Card and Honeycomb 3.0 v4 image
I've been looking for an answer throughout the forums on this question but can't seem to find anything. The problem: I used the Honeycomb v4 image with WinImage. The SD card was originally 8 GB. The image file is 4 GB with approximately 600 MB or so of free space. Missing: 4 GB that was on the card.
1. Can I use a utility under Windows to get the free space allocated on the SD card that remains? If so, how?
2. Is there an option with WinImage to allocate the additional space on the SD card as free space and include it as part of the image that is being written to the SD card?
3. If I need to restore my SD card back to 8 GB, can that be done in Windows Explorer (not sure that Windows will pick up the full 8 GB as I haven't tried that yet).
Thanks.
Ohh, you have that problem. Don't know where you've been looking but that has been asked and answered many times. The problem is that when you install Froyo or Honey to the SD it makes 4 partitions like I listed above, but Windows can only see the First Partition and only Formats the First partition. The easiest way to fix is to put it in UnRooted Stock and Format it from Settings. If you don't have that you can Burn a Linux or GParted Live CD and Format it from their.
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Not sure which rom to pick and which methods to use. I hope someone can point me to threads that will help.
I am not a noob. I have rooted my nook and have booted roms from SD etc. I just don't know if what I want is available and if it is, I would like to know which instead of trying out stuff until I find it.
Anyway this is what I want.
I want to dual boot an SD card meaning, I want the rooted stock rom built in and something else on the SD card.
I want storage to be shared between the stock rom and the SD card rom.
I want the most stable and fast rom
I want adobe flash
Bluetooth preferred, not a must.
I want all market apps in market.
Is possible?
How can I do this?
Just point me in the right direction I can find threads in the development section and fallow instructions, I just want to know which roms and methods to use.
Thanks,
For stable + Flash: Nookie Froyo. Not sure if it has BT, but CM7 should. It is under more constant changes though.
Phiremod 5.1 is pretty snazzy. Fast and stable. Everything works as far as I know.
I want to dual boot an SD card meaning, I want the rooted stock rom built in and something else on the SD card.
I want storage to be shared between the stock rom and the SD card rom.
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Why do you want these things ?
Usually people want to run off an SD card for two reasons:
- To keep the Nook Color stock in order to use B&N features, and get the B&N update in mid-April with Android 2.2, Flash and B&N App Store.
OR
- To experiment with stuff on the SD rom, and keep the Nook itself stable to do everyday things reliably, like Calendar and Email.
BTW, what do you mean by "storage"? What storage used by what apps for what purpose ?
Tell us what you really want to do with the Nook, and we can give you recommendations, otherwise you will get the previous two posts, that gave you two contradicting recommendations.
ADude said:
Why do you want these things ?
Usually people want to run off an SD card for two reasons:
- To keep the Nook Color stock in order to use B&N features, and get the B&N update in mid-April with Android 2.2, Flash and B&N App Store.
OR
- To experiment with stuff on the SD rom, and keep the Nook itself stable to do everyday things reliably, like Calendar and Email.
BTW, what do you mean by "storage"? What storage used by what apps for what purpose ?
Tell us what you really want to do with the Nook, and we can give you recommendations, otherwise you will get the previous two posts, that gave you two contradicting recommendations.
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I want to keep the stock BN features most notably, the magazine and color books reader.
I also want the full android experience with all apps and flash because I can't get apps on the stock rom like Pocket Legends etc.
I want to use the SD card's extra space for storage for both roms. And by storage I mean places for downloads to go, storing mp3 files and photos etc. the normal things the SD is suppose to do. But I wasn't sure if I booted a rom from the SD card that the SD card storage is reserved only for that rom or if it can also be used by the built in stock rom too.
Did you ever find a good ROM? My requirements are the same as yours- I'd like to try a fuller Android experience, but, for a variety of reasons, I'd like to leave the internal memory with my Nookie rooted B&N experience.
If you have a good one, could you link it?
Hi all,
After reading all the great stuff about the NC recently, CM7, Phiremod and the honeycomb releases Ive convinced a mate of mine in California who's visting the UK to bring me one over to tinker with..
Now.. After doing some research Im overwhelmed with info and thought Id ask for "up to date" pointers..
1. Is there a straightforward guide to rooting and installing the NC, as I live in the UK Im not fussed about the original NC rom. I've seen Cyanogenmods wiki entry http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide is this the best approach?
2. Which rom is best? Plain CM7, Phiremod or Honeycomb as posted by deeper blue?
3. Any other pointers?
Sorry for such basic questions, im just overloaded and not 100% sure which is the best process to take.
thanks all in advance
Angelo
Take a look in the stickies, there are comprehensive guides to root....just make sure you're using the correct version. If your mate is buying a brand new one for you, you'll most likely need the version for rooting with partitions. I have used all 3 of the roms you mentioned and my personal preference is CM. Phiremod is just a heavily themed version of CM and the honeycomb build is ok, but it lacks some features and is still a bit buggy because the source code has not been released for honeycomb
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If you decide on CM7 (which I personally recommend), I would look for "How to Install CynaogenMod 7 on the Nook Color" (can't post links) on YouTube. I personally found it very useful. If something seems off, make sure you look at the description and read some user comments. With the way this guy explains it it's practically idiot proof and it's unlikely you'll mess anything up.
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Thanks Guys,
I've been doing more reading and yeah looks straightforward..
Considering Im not interested in the core B&N OS, I was thinking of installing CM7 to the internal memory and then perhaps installing Honeycomb (deeperblue version) on a memory stick to "play with".
From what I can tell the HC port is nice as a toy but not robust enough considering HC hasnt been released to AOSP.
Makes sense?
If you are looking to 'play with' honeycomb on a MicroSD install, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
You get Honeycomb and Phiremod in a dual-boot image tailored for a MicroSD install.
Read through the thread and see if it's to your taste.
For the most usable ROM, go with CM7. Just follow this guide in this post. Very simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post.
After you get this running, you can read up a little more and create a SD card w/ Honeycomb or Phiremod to play around with. But CM7 is the most stable out there (well, I guess Phiremod is good to, because it is a customized CM7).
Good Luck.
Use CM7, it's the best for now.
HC is beauty but still a lot of work to be done.
jasoraso said:
For the most usable ROM, go with CM7. Just follow this guide in this post. Very simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post.
After you get this running, you can read up a little more and create a SD card w/ Honeycomb or Phiremod to play around with. But CM7 is the most stable out there (well, I guess Phiremod is good to, because it is a customized CM7).
Good Luck.
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+1 for this guide!
"The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post."
For some reason I thought that statement was obsoleted, am I wrong?
It was valid if you have v1.2 NC and flashing with CwM Recovery prior to v3.2.xx.
But since the instructions do indicate using v3.2.0.1 CwM, then why care about blue-dot or not since it has been taken care off unless v3.2.x.x not properly does the job.
Maybe because you have a choice in partition schemes?
You really will want to repartition the new nook. 1 gb is a very small partition for your programs. 5gb works much better and the change is fairly painless.
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IFLATLINEI said:
Maybe because you have a choice in partition schemes?
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That's a reasonable reason but again, it shouldn't be highlighted in RED, ORANGE at best
In fact, since it's a choice of good, it should be in GREEN.
thanks guys
Thanks guys, Im in awe with all the feedback and comments this thread is getting..
yes, Ive received the NC today and its charging Also doing loads and loads of reading
My nook does have a bluedot so my partitions are 5gb Data/1Gb Media.
I'll probably leave it like so, considering CWM supports this now its ok, and put most of my media on an external 16gb microsd card..
If Im right I can still install apps into the 5gb partition right?
Also , if I understand it correctly I can actually install CM7 onto a microSD and simply boot from this right ,without rooting/installing CWM... ?
Angelo
asantaga said:
If Im right I can still install apps into the 5gb partition right?
Also , if I understand it correctly I can actually install CM7 onto a microSD and simply boot from this right ,without rooting/installing CWM... ?
Angelo
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You can still install apps into the /data partition but pls note: if your NC isn't rooted, you can only install apps that offered by B&N. You do not have full access of Android Market.
About CM7, yes, you can run CM7 off uSD and not touching the eMMC (aka internal memory) at all. Be considered getting a Sandisk (class 2 or class 4)
B-i-g thanks
All,
BIG Thanks to everyone,
I've successfully (actually flawlessly), repartitioned my nook to the old standard and installed CM7 into the internal memory..
All flawlessly. Also ordered a sandisk 16gb memory card from amazon.co.uk, so that will hold most of the media..
I was considering making the main partition >1Gb (1.9Gb) but decided to leave it as it is for now.. It was so easy yo tweak I thought Id try it vanilla and then grow if I need to..
Awesome-ness
ok wheres my 5gb?
ok got one question now..
/media is supposed to have 5gb available..
CM7 doesnt appear to allow me to use it as a SD card.. but ive found it mounted as /mnt/emmc
How does one use it ??? I tried downloading pdfs and I was told that an SD card was required for this... :-( when i get home I was going to try mounting it via usb to a computer but is that the only way?
There are 2 things you need to know
1. If you're running CM7, you MUST have a uSD. "MUST" does seem to be a strong word but for some reason, that I still try to figure out, an external uSD is required. W/o it, you can still using it but there's some apps won't run if no uSD plugged. It means the NC works 99.9% w/o uSD. I guess I should take the "MUST" back, ehhh
2. If you're running the recently nightly-build CM7, the USB storage utitlity should already be implemented within the ROM. All you need to do is
1. Connect NC and PC via USB cable
2. by this time, the usb indicator should be appeared on the NC, tab on it
3. Tab on Connect USB to transfer .......
4. Turn USB Mass Storage on
5. by this time, PC should recognize the /media on the NOOK
6. do what you want to do
votinh said:
There are 2 things you need to know
1. If you're running CM7, you MUST have a uSD. "MUST" does seem to be a strong word but for some reason, that I still try to figure out, an external uSD is required. W/o it, you can still using it but there's some apps won't run if no uSD plugged. It means the NC works 99.9% w/o uSD. I guess I should take the "MUST" back, ehhh
2. If you're running the recently nightly-build CM7, the USB storage utitlity should already be implemented within the ROM. All you need to do is
1. Connect NC and PC via USB cable
2. by this time, the usb indicator should be appeared on the NC, tab on it
3. Tab on Connect USB to transfer .......
4. Turn USB Mass Storage on
5. by this time, PC should recognize the /media on the NOOK
6. do what you want to do
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Wicked, yeah didnt see the little icon down below
thanks
Hey Angelo, I just wanted to share my experience.
I love gadgets, and tinkering with gadgets. I am an IT manager/minor programmer/webmaster, etc. etc... so no surprise that I feel right at home here BUT, I also love to read and I think that the Nook app for Android is bunk (e.g. "poor") compared to the stock NC experience.
I decided pretty early on that I wanted to keep the NC stock (partially due to warranty) and have a dual boot option for CM7. I had initially installed CM7 on my NC, replacing the stock rom all together. I ended up putting the stock ROM back on.
Here is a post from another thread where I outline that experience...and the guides that I use.
I talk about partitions in that post, since you have a new NC, don't even bother yourself with that...just note the guides there that will get you where you want to go, either way....
asantaga said:
ok got one question now..
/media is supposed to have 5gb available..
CM7 doesnt appear to allow me to use it as a SD card.. but ive found it mounted as /mnt/emmc
How does one use it ??? I tried downloading pdfs and I was told that an SD card was required for this... :-( when i get home I was going to try mounting it via usb to a computer but is that the only way?
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Many (older) apps in on Android are designed to ONLY look for storage called "sdcard". So your 5gb of internal (emmc) called "Media" will not be able to be utilized by those Apps.
Apps that are better programmed and designed can access the memory called "Media".