Is there a way to select which apps you want to start up and run when the phone is booted? Since I've rooted I've had a lot more apps running right after turning the phone on (15-25 apps running). It is sluggish at start up, I'm assuming this is because the phone is trying to start and run a whole bunch of apps at the same time as well as obtain signal, check verify media on the SD card etc. and the processor is bogged down. Is there a way to select which apps I'd like to run at start up?
If you want to reduce lag try roms. Any app that tries to control what Is starting up will largely be ineffective
Any speculation as to why I never experienced this until after I rooted my phone?
Rooting should not cause programs to just start running.
Are you certain you have not added something else since root that may be causing lag?
I wouldn't describe it as general lag. It's only at start up. Once everything has loaded it runs the same it did the day I got it. It's just that it takes longer to boot initially. And when I use my task killer once everything is loaded it typically kills off 20-25 apps. Before I rooted I had a max of 6 apps running at start up. Currently I have 80 apps installed. Before I rooted I might have had 10 less apps.
Go to market, put startup in search, you should find several apps that claim to help with this
Thanks, I'll give that a try.
Startup Auditor. Works for me, give it a shot.
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What has everyone been doing to close apps since Froyo doesn't work with task killers? For me its not a matter of my Nexus getting bogged down sometimes I just want an app closed when I don't use it.
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What has everyone been doing to close apps since Froyo doesn't work with task killers? For me its not a matter of my Nexus getting bogged down sometimes I just want an app closed when I don't use it.
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So lets ignore the fact that stopping normal running apps will slow down your phone and increase battery usage and assume you must have a good reason.
That reason must be the app is not behaving well, so just stop it from the Manage Applications section in settings.
Cool. Thanks.
Question though: how does stopping an app slow down the phone? Other than I guess the initial action. I have often wondered why a self shutdown isn't written into most apps such as on a desktop OS.
Android will keep the app in memory, but it will not run. So keeping it 'running' isn't using any battery. But if you decide to switch back to it, it is already loaded and ready to go.
If you force close it, then it needs to reload completely again when you go back.
When it is in memory it is not slowing down the phone, or taking any battery. If a new app needs the memory, Android closes the old app instantly without any noticeable performance issues.
So by forcing them closed you are forcing Android to spend more time and battery to reload it every time you go back. By leaving it open, you let Android do the best thing with it. Which means when you go back to it, it could still be there waiting.
i was doing my 5k run with my recently updated hero and about a mile into the run pandora radio started skipping and then stopped. when i looked at my phone it was rebooting. i have task manager and killed all the apps before i started and unchecked jogtracker and pandora so i could use them. it didnt last long. the phones screen froze and dimmed then crashed until it finally restarted. is there a reason for the crash. seems to me like a memory problem. i have a two gig card with one pt. five left on it. and the internal memory is at 91mb. it always worked before i rooted and installed cm6. the phone in general is way faster and more responsive since i put cm6 on it but for some reason the two apps running together arent working. thanks for any help
Try removing the task manger reboot into recovery and wipe Dev/ cache and try it then might work good luck
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I've tried running with and without various task managers and always wind up uninstalling and reminding myself that I should know better.
I seriously don't think Froyo and these mods need a task killer. If anything, they seem to cludge things up. My phone was running beautifully for two weeks and earlier today I thought I'd try out a different task killer. Mistake. I uninstalled it after 1/2 hour because it just made the phone feel funky.
Try running without for a couple weeks....
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I've tried running with and without various task managers and always wind up uninstalling and reminding myself that I should know better.
I seriously don't think Froyo and these mods need a task killer. If anything, they seem to cludge things up. My phone was running beautifully for two weeks and earlier today I thought I'd try out a different task killer. Mistake. I uninstalled it after 1/2 hour because it just made the phone feel funky.
Try running without for a couple weeks....
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+1, CM6 does not need a task killer/manager. The best method is to download AutoKiller (which lets you alter Android's internal memory manager, much more effective than task killers) and change the settings to Strict or Aggressive. Also, two of the biggest problems that create soft reboots that you describe is (a) the VM heap size being too small and (b) CPU speeds being too high. So, steps to take:
1) Uninstall task killer
2) Install AutoKiller and change settings to Aggressive
3) Change SetCPU/Overclock Widget settings to 691 max/595 min with screen on, 480 max/245 min screen off
4) Change VM Heap size (in Cyanogenmod Settings) to 24 MB and reboot
The only other possibility I can think of would be kernel instability. If you flash Decand3nce's #14 Stable kernel found here it is far more stable than the stock kernel and (IMHO) has much better performance than the stock kernel.
These steps should rectify any memory and/or CPU overconsumption problems you are having that could cause the reboots (as well as make your phone much faster, smoother, and more stable). If these steps don't fix it, it most likely is a problem with one of the apps themselves.
Good luck!
thanks for the help.
also on the restart i got this message Sorry the applicating spring updater (process com.sprint.ce.updater) has stopped unexpectedly. please try again. force close. this is probably the cause of all the problems thanks
the changes u pointed out seemed to have fixed the phone so far. thanks so much for the great instructions. u da man.
i noticed a couple times a day the phone reboots. should i back off of some of the settings.
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i noticed a couple times a day the phone reboots. should i back off of some of the settings.
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Yup, lower the max cpu.
Froyo Hero to the rescue
what is the VM Heap size for what does it change. mine is at 16 right now.
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what is the VM Heap size for what does it change. mine is at 16 right now.
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Its the amount of memory each application can take up maximum. You tend to get smoother running stops with higher vms; I set mine to 24.
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I love my Captivate but 2 things bother me.
1) Why does the music player start every time I unplug the wired headset? I've tested and it's not running BEFORE I plug the headset in.
2) Why do so many apps automatically start in the background? I will use Process Killer to bring it down to 1 or 2 apps running and next thing I know, there are 7 or 8 and I haven't started any of them! This especially bothers me with the AT&t bloatware apps that cost extra to use.
Any info/fixes would be appreciated!
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I love my Captivate but 2 things bother me.
1) Why does the music player start every time I unplug the wired headset? I've tested and it's not running BEFORE I plug the headset in.
2) Why do so many apps automatically start in the background? I will use Process Killer to bring it down to 1 or 2 apps running and next thing I know, there are 7 or 8 and I haven't started any of them! This especially bothers me with the AT&t bloatware apps that cost extra to use.
Any info/fixes would be appreciated!
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1) I have never heard of this happening to anyone before
2) there are allot of applications and processes that have dependencies on other applications and processes - they will need to be running for your phone to operate properly.
Don't fall into the idea that you need to manage the memory on your android phone the same way you would a windows machine. unless you have installed a bad acting or poorly coded application your android phone will shut down what ever processes need shut when they need shut down all on its own.
The only reason you should use or need any kind of task manager or task killer is to check every now and then to see if you do have a bad acting memory/cpu hog causing problems. too many people use task killers have them running in auto without knowing what they are doing and a dependent needed processes get killed and they can't figure out why their phone acts so buggy.
Thanks for the reply
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1) I have never heard of this happening to anyone before
2) there are allot of applications and processes that have dependencies on other applications and processes - they will need to be running for your phone to operate properly.
Don't fall into the idea that you need to manage the memory on your android phone the same way you would a windows machine. unless you have installed a bad acting or poorly coded application your android phone will shut down what ever processes need shut when they need shut down all on its own.
The only reason you should use or need any kind of task manager or task killer is to check every now and then to see if you do have a bad acting memory/cpu hog causing problems. too many people use task killers have them running in auto without knowing what they are doing and a dependent needed processes get killed and they can't figure out why their phone acts so buggy.
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Well then, Youtube running for no apparent reason at all would be a dependancy of exactly what?
Maybe the only reason YOU would need a task killer is what you stated above, I am using it to see what's going on on my phone and if I am in danger of ending up with charges I'm not willing to pay for. But thanks for the reply.
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Well then, Youtube running for no apparent reason at all would be a dependancy of exactly what?
Maybe the only reason YOU would need a task killer is what you stated above, I am using it to see what's going on on my phone and if I am in danger of ending up with charges I'm not willing to pay for. But thanks for the reply.
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Using it to watch what your phone is doing learn what's going on is a good idea - but I would avoid shutting anything down until you do know why or what process started it - if you shut them down without knowing why they are running then you will continue to see them restarted for apparently no reason.
As for youtube, if you had been recently browsing the web one of the pages you visited may of contained a link to a file your phone has associated with youtube. Also you may have installed some app that triggers youtube, but just killing it without knowing why it is running may keep you from finding out what is going on and cause some other unexplained strange bug.
I have seen more than one person have their phone go from being buggy to running well when they stopped killing processes and turned off any auto killing functions of their task killer/manager and just watched their phone run for a couple days while letting the phone handle shutting processes down.
But as far as watching your phone closely and learning what it is doing, I am all for this - at the same time I don't want to be promoting paranoid behavior - but being informed and having a good idea what's going on with your phone wil definitely make you more capable of trouble shooting if and when the need arises.
And just be sure to check you bill every month and see what your being billed.
I found that removing the AT&T bloat to be almost mandatory to have a great running phone.
Couple that with the custom ROM's found here - and the device is awesome. I have no need to kill any processes. I do open up System Monitor to see what is going on with the device - but that is the beauty of Android - you can actually see EVERYTHING that is running on it.. and based on any errant process - you can kill it.
But.. there are a million articles on if Task Killers are a benefit or a hindrance to your phone's battery life and performance.
Bottom Line - be smart with your phone like your computer... don't download a bunch of crap, watch where you browse, and keep an eye on your sys monitor to see how your phone is behaving.
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I found that removing the AT&T bloat to be almost mandatory to have a great running phone.
Couple that with the custom ROM's found here - and the device is awesome. I have no need to kill any processes. I do open up System Monitor to see what is going on with the device - but that is the beauty of Android - you can actually see EVERYTHING that is running on it.. and based on any errant process - you can kill it.
But.. there are a million articles on if Task Killers are a benefit or a hindrance to your phone's battery life and performance.
Bottom Line - be smart with your phone like your computer... don't download a bunch of crap, watch where you browse, and keep an eye on your sys monitor to see how your phone is behaving.
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Joe, where is the System Monitor?
I've not come up with the nads yet to root the phone and remove the bloat. I'm not in any hurry, the phone runs great. As I tried to explain before, I'm curious as to why these applications end up running at random, without my even touching the phone. I will clear all apps from running and lay the phone down and not touch it. On my last look, 2 messaging apps were running, Youtube, AT&T Navigator, Where's my Droid and Gallery. Bear in mind, I had not touched the phone. I just cleared it again and will look after bit to see what has started.
I am also looking for any theories as to why my music player starts when I pull the headset out from being on a phone call.
Although appreciated, I am not looking for opinions on what I should and shouldn't be doing with my phone.
Lol. I just to trying a piece of advice - I know it is your phone and you can do with it what you please.
But go ahead and keep killing processes without knowing what your doing and see if you have more or less strange buggy behavior.
FYI - messaging apps are generally coded to almost continually sync in the background - to see if you have any new messages and will restart every time you stop them - if you want to know instantly of any new messages they will have to run
Att navigator - att is trying to shove this app on you so they have it set to start any time your phone starts any locating process - and your phone will almost continually be trying to figure out its location
Wheres my droid - is either trying to figure out where it is or preparing to figure out where is to be ready to let you know when you ask - if this program did not have something triggering it to keep it running all the time it would be a pretty useless piece of software don't you think
Gallery - pretty much any media syncing process wil start gallery - and allot of media processes have some type of background media sync process
As for youtube - I'm not sure yet
I just flashed to Cog 3.04 last night and noticed that I seem to have an excessive number of apps that always self start for no reason. This did not happen to me before with the stock ROM. Items such as Maps and Clock seem to self start and stay running unless I kill them manually. Then....they reappear soon thereafter. Any ideas?
Also, what is everyone averaging for available memory when running Cog 3.04? I start off around 170, then seem to die down to around 80-90, even when killing non-essential apps.
Self starting apps, not much you can do. Android manages memory better than killing apps and letting them restart.
Thats what I seem to be reading more and more. I may try and uninstall my task killer and see how is goes from there for a while. Worst comes to worst, I can always reinstall it later.
I have a rooted, original Droid. I keep running into the same problem every time I install a new ROM. It always works great right off the bat, but after a few weeks or so, my phone has slowed down to the point that it's nearly unusable. Everything about it is slow: Apps load slowly, the browser is too slow for use, I'm constantly getting notified that different processes aren't responding, etc... So far, the only solution is install a fresh ROM every month.
I've tried loads of ROMs to see if it's a problem with my phone or with a certain ROM. Each new ROM does the same thing: Works great at first and then slows waaay down.
Anyone have any ideas? I've tried memory optimizers, removed all unnecessary apps, SetCPU profiles, and more. I've tried it with task killers, and without task killers. Regardless of what I do, I always have the same problem. Anyone else?
reboot the phone every 3 days
works on my milestone