seen the galaxy s II 2.3 with touchwiz 4.0 and the ui seems nicer. implementing new way to add widgets and other stuffs.
are we going to get that with our old galaxy s?
but 1 thing annoys me most is that, there is NO SCREEN OFF ANIMATION!!! [is there?]
which is one off the coolest thing i look forward in getting gingerbread.
I don't think we will ever get 2.3 on our i9000 devices. Samsung wants us to buy their new phone to get 2.3. Samsung is not apple, they don't really care about their existing userbase as much as apple does.
I highly doubt we will get 2.3, since thats what SGS2 comes with.
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I highly doubt we will get 2.3, since thats what SGS2 comes with.
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I am almost certain we'll get 2.3, it will just take time.
The Galaxy S is going to be a dominate seller in many markets for months to come, and some versions of it (like the Infuse) have yet to even ship.
We'll see Gingerbread, it will just take time.
Personally, I'm putting my faith in CM7 which is great already and only getting better.
well if u dont want still pictures CWM7 seems to be working perfectly fine and with gingerbread launcher its stock 2.3.2
We will get it.
I am sure, We will get 2.3 base ROM and of course , TouchWiz 4.0 as well ...
I think its the only way samsung can create base for TouchWiz users ...
Would be mistake if Samsung will not release 2.3 for SGS ... I am sure, 2.3 would be last update for SGS as well.
SGS 2 out followed by price drop on SGS 1 followed by 2.3 update .
jje
They will probably release an update after SGS2 will reach a certain amount of sale number.
i m gussng we will get android 2.4
Dont think so ...
But, we will get GingerBread with New thouchWiz .... It makes no sense to maintain two diff. TouchWiz for Same version of Android ... Too much efforts ...
Point is ... When will we get it ???
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SGS 2 out followed by price drop on SGS 1 followed by 2.3 update .
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I suspect you're right.
Samsung (from a sales point of view) would be stupid to give us all Gingerbread with Touchwiz 4.0 *right now*, as the only differential then to Galaxy S2 would be processor and screen. Samsung rightly want to push sales of the S2.
I'm guessing that once S2 has been out for a while (3 months say), then Samsung will release the pre-made Gingerbread firmwares for select older phones. As the Galaxy S has been (and will continue to be in lesser markets) a very strong sales device, I expect we'll then see Gingerbread on the S.
Of course, the reason Apple works in a different way is because to them everything is about keeping their userbase. They need to do this as there's no one else selling an iOS phone and so to protect their market share, they need to keep their users (reduce churn). Of course, from a sales perspective, they'd be *FAR* better off to never release an update for an older device; which is generally why you always find those updates are not-quite-so-good, or somewhat-slower than they need be on older devices.
(of course, there's nothing to stop some nice people leaking Samsung's dev. builds of Gingerbread for the Galaxy S)
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I suspect you're right.
Samsung (from a sales point of view) would be stupid to give us all Gingerbread with Touchwiz 4.0 *right now*, as the only differential then to Galaxy S2 would be processor and screen. Samsung rightly want to push sales of the S2.
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You are missing:
-more RAM
-21 Mbps quad-band HSPA+ radio
-better GPU
-thinner
It's a better phone.
Now Samsung should still release 2.3 for the Galaxy S if they want people to consider them as a reliable company supporting their products.
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It's a better phone.
Now Samsung should still release 2.3 for the Galaxy S if they want people to consider them as a reliable company supporting their products.
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Agreed.
They still have to release the source code which can then be ported to the SGS by other people. We don't know how easy that will be though.
I know a lot of people say they will avoid Samsung if they don't give proper updates and whatever, but they do use the best hardware in the phones.
The processors, GPUs, screens, sound processors... if only the quality of the software could match it.
All the phone manufacturers suck in their own ways. Motorola with their locked bootloaders and lack of updates (especially their non non-US phones), SE has that problem and lower end hardware in their phones, HTC sucks for sound quality and battery life, Nokia... well I shouldn't need to explain that
actually apple does the same through tricks.. you'll notice every major os + phone upgrade, the last phone upgrade sux balls
after 3-6month they provide an optimization update that makes the last phone perform properly.
they also voluntarily remove some software features (like wallpaper!!!) saying it needs "too much resources". Of course jail broken phone use these features on older phones without any problem.
Anyhow I wish some nice dudes leak the firmwares, too
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I don't think we will ever get 2.3 on our i9000 devices. Samsung wants us to buy their new phone to get 2.3. Samsung is not apple, they don't really care about their existing userbase as much as apple does.
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You are not really thinking that, right, RIGHT?
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We will get android 2.3 if it's not with a samsung update there's also another way But Samfirmware.com posted that samsung is testing android 2.3 on SGS
so maybe we will get an update, i hope
For Samsung not releasing 2.3 for SGS1 is like shooting them self in the leg.
They will lose me and many others who already think that the best phones to buy are only Google's branded ones.
Personally, I will not buy any Samsung phone again and I don't care how good it is if this is direction things are going on.
PS
Crossing fingers for CM team.
I think threatening samsung of never buying from them again won't work...
After a few years you will eventually forget about it, or they will release a really good phone that would make you forget...
Not threatening, applying.
There is a reason why I've dumped iphone and as long as apple won't change their ways they can forget about me and people that I know.
Same goes with samsung. Dumping their clients support won't make them any good.
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For Samsung not releasing 2.3 for SGS1 is like shooting them self in the leg.
They will lose me and many others who already think that the best phones to buy are only Google's branded ones.
Personally, I will not buy any Samsung phone again and I don't care how good it is if this is direction things are going on.
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What phone are you going to buy then? The current Google branded one is Samsung anyway, and HTC only supported phones like the hero for a short time too (it's stuck on 2.1).
Let me know how your Windows Mobile turns out..
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I just found out today from various pages online that the galaxy tab is already selling with froyo. Now my understanding is that most of you might already know about it ? When samsung postponed their 23rd sept. release for froyo on the SGS, I was still optimistic hoping that the update would be worth waiting for and solve a majority if not all of our problems with the phone, including lag, whenever it came. But now I learn the update does already exist, but only for a newer device! What am I, as a customer supposed to make of this ? If there already is a froyo firmware existing with the samsung's TouchWiz UI, WHY is not brought to the SGS yet ? Earlier I sympathised with samsung thinking that they're putting decent effort in the froyo update before releasing it to end users. But if this is the scenario, I am very upset....
Mod request: Please move thread to I9000 General section.
Froyo IS coming to SGS, it will be available from this week onwards starting with T-Mobile as you might have already seen on all android forums, blogs and websites.
Galaxy Tab is a big product for Samsung, since it's initial firmware is based on Froyo, I’m pretty sure Samsung is putting a lot more effort into getting Froyo out on the Tab compared to having it on the SGS. Its perfectly understandable. Without Froyo they cant release the Tab, but SGS still functions with 2.1.
I know that. Isn't the hardware on both devices the same ? So why wasn't there a simultaneous release of galaxy tab with froyo and froyo for galaxy s ? What takes things so long for SGS ?
I dont know for sure, but most likely the hardware is similar (if not the same). But the firmware has few differences, for example Samsung had to modify it to fix screen scaling issues for 1024x600; and if you have seen some of the Galaxy Tab demo videos, you might have seen that some of it’s UI components are different too (video conferencing interface, eMail client, etc..). Maybe Samsung is putting most of their developers on Tab's firmware development giving less priority to SGS.
Yes well, this is exactly what I'm saying is wrong, for a company like samsung. Especially in this case for nearly identical devices...
As far as the resolution is concerned, being an engineer, I can say it's not that big an ordeal to scale it down. And if you're saying that the galaxy tab has more components/apps out of the box, then that would logically imply that froyo for galaxy s should have arrived first, as it would require lesser development time. Instead, we're seeing months of delays! How is that justified ?
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I just found out today from various pages online that the galaxy tab is already selling with froyo. Now my understanding is that most of you might already know about it ? When samsung postponed their 23rd sept. release for froyo on the SGS, I was still optimistic hoping that the update would be worth waiting for and solve a majority if not all of our problems with the phone, including lag, whenever it came. But now I learn the update does already exist, but only for a newer device! What am I, as a customer supposed to make of this ? If there already is a froyo firmware existing with the samsung's TouchWiz UI, WHY is not brought to the SGS yet ? Earlier I sympathised with samsung thinking that they're putting decent effort in the froyo update before releasing it to end users. But if this is the scenario, I am very upset....
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That would be wonderful if the Tab was already selling. Any idea where to get one right now?
I think samsung has some stability problems with TW crap he loads into SGS. Tab is cleaner (no TW), thus didnt require so much TW porting (and all apps developed for Tab are with 2.2 in mind).
Thats one side, because core system aint close to perfect too.
I see. But the tab has TW 3.0 as well from what I've read in this forum. Your other point however, makes a lot of sense..
Looking back in time,I remember how Samsung did some fabulous polishing work on Froyo 2.2.1 even after the release of the first GBs.I was glued to the last of the 2.2.1s before migrating to GB.
Between JVP to the leaked JVT,I see polish being added and now that ICS is just around the corner,Samsung must be able to release the full fury of GB---HOPEFULLY!
History has always repeated itself so let's hope for the best!
...so now it is here even though as a provider affair but a more common leak with multi CSC can't be far behind.more polished than XXJVT
Waiting for ICS. I don't think there will be major changes in next release.
i am also waiting for ICS
It's time not for a ROM but for a position from Samsung if Galaxy S will be getting ICS or not. They fooled me very much in buying this thing in the GPS department ( GSMArena also, with the review against Iphone 4 that praised this piece of crap stock software they loaded in this great hardware ). The least they could do is bring ICS to I9000. If they don't do this, then I am really, really sorry but Samsung and Android failed to me and I learned my lesson and no more Samsung or Android devices for me if they continue doing this.
WHY? Samsung has been one of the first manufactures that constantly updates their devices, obviously most of the updates are leaked, but thoos exist. Not like Sony Ericcson wich wasted months to develop GB to their xperia line.
I don't know the case of LG, Motorola, or others. But samsung and HTC are the best option (for me) on android, based on devices and updates.
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WHY? Samsung has been one of the first manufactures that constantly updates their devices, obviously most of the updates are leaked, but thoos exist. Not like Sony Ericcson wich wasted months to develop GB to their xperia line.
I don't know the case of LG, Motorola, or others. But samsung and HTC are the best option (for me) on android, based on devices and updates.
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I never expected this from Samsung
I really wonder if Sammy would update our phones to ICS. Not that i'm going to use samsung rom (they're so damn slow), it's just interesting.
ICS on Galaxy S? Why? We have hardware buttons, thanks to gods. I don't need another black line eating my screen space.
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ICS on Galaxy S? Why? We have hardware buttons, thanks to gods. I don't need another black line eating my screen space.
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Dude, if we become ICS it will look like GB, just with TW3. So no black lines. I think and I hobe that we get ICS, because Samsung will keep us as their Customers. And I'm the first who will buy a Samsung phone after my contract expires
+1 on ics...
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+1 need too...
http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-Nexus-S-and-Galaxy-S-II-to-Android-4-0-ICS
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http://www.youmobile.org/blogs/entr...-S-Nexus-S-and-Galaxy-S-II-to-Android-4-0-ICS
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The Galaxy S2 gets ICS, but the i9000 only get a rumour so far
i did not want to open a new thread so here are some excitment news that i have written in the third page of this thread:
"well i gues it will be easy for me not to buy a samsung phone ever again.
motorola and intel sign on a long term agreement and medfield really kicking ARM a** at least in the few benchmarks that were published and with lower consumption according to the benchmarks.
so my next phone will be a motorola phone with intel inside it.
goodbye samsung and yours sh*tty support.
i hope many of you will do the same as me. show them the power of the customers. i hope samsung will lose all their customers to motorola!!!!!!!!!!!"
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
i have this phone only for a year, and 2.3 is the last version i'll get.
but maybe we need to blame google because other company also dropping their support after a year.
maybe it is time to consider microsoft and intel combination. if they are doing such a great work on pc, and intel is about to release their cpu for mobiles, that combination will kick android a** i hope. i can't believe that this is the last update i will get, i have 2.3 for months, i dont care about crappy face recognitaion in 2.3.6 i want hardware acceleration.
i am staring to hate android. open source is great, until you are not getting anymore updates maybe the middle between android open source and ios is the answer like microsoft.
microsoft bring us directx games to cell phones and i am leaving crappy android today.
cry cry cry
If you think you're going to be better off with a Windows Phone, think twice:
http://windowsteamblog.com/windows_...ew-maintenance-release-for-windows-phone.aspx
you dont care they dont release anymore update to a phone you recently buy and capable to run ics?
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you dont care they dont release anymore update to a phone you recently buy and capable to run ics?
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fact is, Samsung is a company that is only interesed in your money, just like all other companies out there. They're not a charity organisation. They want you to buy their phones.
the SGS has gotten 2 major firmware updates. eclair to froyo and froyo to gingerbread. There's not alot of phones out there that have gotten the same luck.
Of course it would be nice to receive an ICS updates but frankly i don't care. There's already a good working unofficial ICS rom and official Gingerbread rom does it's job more than pleasant.
I would say it's your loss since samsung always make better phone with better price compare to apple made in china trash. I know the software is not too good buy you have plenty developers here that can help the phone runs better. If you want ics just used one cosmics rom.
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at least apple is still supporting all of their devices.
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Do tell me where I get support for my original iPhone (2g) so I can up date the thing to v4 or even v5 iOS.
At the end of the day the SGS is near 2 years old and seeing as the SGS3 is around the corner I would consider the SGS old!
Anycase there is a ICS ROM for the SGS, just used that and be happy!
onecosmic and cyanogen can not fix the camera and other minor things without the drivers from samsung and i have 2.3 almost 6 months. so no i dont consider one year of updates to be that good. you want your phone, to be updated for a year and then throwit to the garbage?.
one year of updates for a phone who sold millions world wide is not enough and because of people like you it will coninue.
i tried 20 different roms so dont try to sell me that i can try onecosmic rom. the camera and other minor things not working correctly i am on cyanogen mod and i am ont happy with the camera and the battery life, tv out is not working and other minor bugs.
edit: not that i have any bad things to say about onecosmic and cm7 developers i know it is not their fault, they dont have the drivers. so thanks to all the developers out there for their best efforts.
im on 2.3.6... why dont you flash? its smooth as ever. Im happy for what it is. Do yourself a favour and get the value pack rom
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@OP:
That's good for all of us, thanks for a news.
It (eventually) would result that one guy, who is unable to read stickies and apply forum rules will stop spam in this thread...
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I would say it's your loss since samsung always make better phone with better price compare to apple made in china trash. I know the software is not too good buy you have plenty developers here that can help the phone runs better. If you want ics just used one cosmics rom.
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In danger of being flamed as fanboi,
but most of the hardware in "aJphaun" come from company in dispute - Samsung
Have a nICE CREAMy day in a SANDWICH
Thx for reading, press THANKS if u like
It's funny how people count the Eclair to Froyo update as a point for Samsung when the phone was released after Froyo came out, Samsung was just damn late.
I got no problems with samsung. after i found this site i've loved the phone Must thank all the hard working people who just got the intrest to release all kinds of mods etc. they make the phone worth having
I'm usimg Hacksung band the camera works no with zoom. Not as good as samsung camera but its geting there.
Thanks TO alla the developers.
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I've had my sgs for 18+ months now and have had 2 major updates, along with about 400 minor ones instigated myself
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I really don't understand why Samsung says SGS is not capable of running ICS, while it is. I wouldn't go as far as not buying Samsung anymore, but I do think the reason given is BS.
Luiwammes said:
I really don't understand why Samsung says SGS is not capable of running ICS, while it is. I wouldn't go as far as not buying Samsung anymore, but I do think the reason given is BS.
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Fyi, they're not saying it cant run ics, they're saying it cant run ICS with TouchWiz.
This is exactly why I sold my Sgs 6 months ago!
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To be honest i'd be happy with a good Gingerbread (stock), I don't think it's been as good as the last Froyo 2.2.1 update, which suddenly made the phone work properly.
I think its a shame that there isn't at least a two year life span (a lot of phone contracts are 24 months) in terms of updates, but I also understand this technology is probably one of the fastest moving.
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
i have this phone only for a year, and 2.3 is the last version i'll get.
but maybe we need to blame google because other company also dropping their support after a year.
maybe it is time to consider microsoft and intel combination. if they are doing such a great work on pc, and intel is about to release their cpu for mobiles, that combination will kick android a** i hope. i can't believe that this is the last update i will get, i have 2.3 for months !!!!!!!! i dont care about crappy face recognitaion.
android is worst than ios, at least apple is still supporting all of their devices.
i am staring to hate android. open source is great, until you are not getting anymore updates maybe the middle between android open source and ios is the answer like microsoft.
microsoft bring us directx games to cell phones and i am leaving crappy android today.
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Samsung didn't design ALL components in the SGS, they have bought many from THIRD party (like audio part from Wolfson, etc. etc.). You have open source drivers for SOME devices and many of chip-makers sell Chips + Closed drivers with limited support. It's not the Samsung's fault if they don't want release drivers, Samsung use only BINARY drivers for some devices ! Blame some *****ng chip-maker firms. I used to fight a lot with Adaptec to have some source code to make working some $500 Hardware Raid card for FreeBSD some years ago, many chip-maker are VERY reluctant to give drivers code, and it's not a new story in Linux world.
Windows and Intel will make better ? Are you serious or just blind ? Why Vista was so "unstable" in his debut ? Drivers, Drivers and Drivers.. like Android. iOS ? Another joke ? Apple use ONE hardware and chip-makers are forced to give the code (or they're excluded from Apple, so they give all Apple want), iPhone is a very well sell and Apple is one of the richest firm in the world, chip-makers aren't totally stupid if they want to sell million and million of their chips.
And for your information : First ROM for SGS are build in March 2010, latest is Dec 2011, what a poor support..
I can see Samsung absolutely ****ting themselves reading the op. Dumb thread.
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not only they don't release the drivers to help developers like onecosmic and cyanogen, they stop their support on a phone who sold millions of units world wide.
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This is, IMHO, the main Android drawback.
Android is not really "open". It's a marketing hype.
Producers like Samsung make heavy "modifications" to their phones and do not relase their drivers.
We're lucky that SGS has an hardware similar to the Nexus S, otherwise I doubt we could have a stable ICS porting for our phone.
My next phone, if I'll chose again Android, will be a Google Experience One.
Bye.
I have been enjoying sgs experience for quite a long time now( I still do) but as device is slowly aging I think its time to upgrade. I'm currently waiting for release of sgs3. What do you suggest, is it worth waiting for it or its better to go and buy galaxy nexus or sgs2? Are there more devices worth buying right now?
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Personally I would wait for the S3 then do some comparisons between phones from different vendors.
One good site to make some comparisons is gsmarena.com , they generally have good reviews and very in depth information about the phone's hardware and specifications too
Just wait for the S3, I heard that it will have a quad core cpu, so it will beat the S2 and all predecessors for sure
gsmarena is also a great site, personally I use it everytime I am looking for something about phones they are great!
galaxy S is still a great phone, if it's slow then you can do a hard reset, maybe it helps with something, and by installing a "simple" rom you can also achieve more performance!
I think it's to soon decide.
U need to know if the phone will be common and then decide cuz probably Samsung will stop developing versions for it and then you depend on the community (look for example Galaxy s 9000 and ICS).
However I'm not getting new phone because sgs is slow or things like that.....and yea I decided, I'm gonna get sgs3, ty both
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Syrex-OL said:
I think it's to soon decide.
U need to know if the phone will be common and then decide cuz probably Samsung will stop developing versions for it and then you depend on the community (look for example Galaxy s 9000 and ICS).
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There is nothing to suggest that the S3 will not be a popular phone.
Unless Samsung make a complete **** up with it, it will be as popular as the SGS and SII.
All the phone manufacturers will at some point stop ROM development at some point with a phone.
Go talk to owners of other Android phones and you will find many are not happy with their device not having ICS support.
There is no reason why the SII won't be able to support the next version of Android (and beyond) and the same will apply to the S3.
If Samsung do carry on support the phones then great but if they give up after a 2 year cycle on a product, I can see their point.
OP, my contract is up for renewal in July and depending on the reviews of the S3 (I think they will be good), providing I can get one for a nominal upgrade free, I'll get one otherwise I'll get an S2.
im not pretty sure about this but i read some things about this 4.0.5 and it was said it was going to be released on i9000
4.0.5 said to be has a BIG performance fix..
i got this news from this link
http://www.androiddigit.com/samsung-galaxy-nexus-and-nexus-s-to-get-android-4-0-5-ics-in-march/
Galaxy Nexus and Nexus S
The news link clearly states only the galaxy nexus and nexus S. Plus it was abundantly made clear in older news posts around the net that the i9000 is not getting ICS and neither will it get the rumored Value pack. As I too am a i9000 user, it kinda sucks to know this
i know samsung said something like that...
but.. dude i think theres a big possibility due to this
Performance FIX thing.. because thats the only one stopping from galaxy S to ICS is Performance..
I'm no great shake on what appears to me to be French, but...
1) Your Article was written for the Nexus and Nexus S and not for the GT-I900Xx (a.k.a the Galaxy S)
2) Where the Article in question even mentions the Galaxy S (Some Table taken from a presumably French source), states quite clearly (even to a non French speaker like myself that the Galaxy S is to only get Android 2.3.6 (Presumably the Value Pack Version), release date February 2012 to be released over Kies.
To indirectly quote your Source it was a table of Official Updates for their current line of Phones.
So I fail to see where you misread this Article into thinking that the Galaxy S was somehow going to get an ICS Update, when Samsung have up to this point stressed that they would not, or could not officially update the GT-I900Xx do to whatever limitations between Touchwiz 3.0 and ICS.
**Edit** What Samsung we're not even gonna get the Value Pack now?
/r/ Sauce kthnxbye!
No chance! Wishful thinking at best. SGS is useless with its 512mb RAM. Either that or the software engineers at Samsung can only compile bloat. The latest iOS seems to function perfectly on iphone4 though. Split between whether i should wait for SGS3 or grab the next iphone and jailbreak the hell outta it. Hmm decisions decisions...
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im not pretty sure about this but i read some things about this 4.0.5 and it was said it was going to be released on i9000
4.0.5 said to be has a BIG performance fix..
i got this news from this link
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android 5 will performance soon ,seach the news...
U really think galaxy s1 will get Android 5?
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common guys...what makes you thinking that we'll get android 5?
Samsung will forget our phone, if he doesn't yet....
there's ported sgs2 ics firmware for sgs, it's on pre alpha state but its working very good, i'm using it right now
sgs has enough power to ics to work fine
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Samsung might forget us, but XDA devs won't! And if the unofficial ICS builds are any indication, our phone sure is powerful enough to handle ICS.
It sure does suck that we're not getting official ICS, but the awesome community here has infinitely improved my experience, so for that I'm glad and grateful.
Like Samsung is going to go trough the trouble of making an ICS version for a phone that is almost two years old.
I'd rather have them focus on creating top-notch software for my next phone..... The SGSIII......