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SMS bad encoding
I get sms bad encoding every time i get a text
this and the camera and browser sd card not found error
are the only problems keeping me from running
this latest version as a daily driver any help
is appreciated.
Sorry bout my english im typing this on my work
break on my touch
If you get an incoming call while online via Togga (with Sprint, if it matters), will the call always and invariably go to voicemail, or will it sometimes/always ask whether you want to terminate the data connection and take the call (the way WM6/6.1 does)?
Likewise, if you get a text message while running Android, is that message going to be forever unknown to Windows Mobile? Or is there a window of time where the message is retained on Sprint's server, and if you boot WM during that window it will see the message and fetch a copy for itself?
pknyo said:
I get sms bad encoding every time i get a text
this and the camera and browser sd card not found error
are the only problems keeping me from running
this latest version as a daily driver any help
is appreciated.
Sorry bout my english im typing this on my work
break on my touch
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You're using the most recent files from DZO's site? What version radio firmware is your phone using?
miamicanes said:
If you get an incoming call while online via Togga (with Sprint, if it matters), will the call always and invariably go to voicemail, or will it sometimes/always ask whether you want to terminate the data connection and take the call (the way WM6/6.1 does)?
Likewise, if you get a text message while running Android, is that message going to be forever unknown to Windows Mobile? Or is there a window of time where the message is retained on Sprint's server, and if you boot WM during that window it will see the message and fetch a copy for itself?
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Android knows when you are in a voice call and suspends the data connection. Also, I've never had an issue receiving a phone call when connected to the ppp internet connection. It's pretty seamless, at least for me on my touch.
You're text messages get routed to whatever OS it is running. If my phone dies, I plug it in start up winmo and it i will receive all the text messages and store them in its own database. Once I boot android it will receive any messages the radio receives and store them in its database. So text messages will never go across OS'es ever as they are considered received after any one OS receives it. Hope that helps.
Alltel
Anyone know of the Alltel Username and Password?? Thanks
Hello,
what,s that mean:"wizard login:" it appered when I was installing Android
and then it just stop there.Could anybody tell me what elements I need ?
Or give me a full pack Please!!!!!!!Thank you !!!!!!!!
Sorry for my poor English
Landon I also have Alltel use (your number)@alltelmobile and leave the password blank. ext I have been using the latest files from dzo I probably had the togga connected at the time when i was getting texts, but it never seemed to happen on ealier builds when connected via PIE. Also as some suggested it is not carrier specific this happens on GSM AT&T and CDMA Sprint and probably my own Alltel.
Battery
I asked this in the other forum but I'm asking again.
Is it ok to leave the phone on the charger overnight while running android.
AdamWill said yes but it gets hot and he was on a titan.
htc tech support said it's probably not a good idea because the charger circuit is software controlled.
So does anyone leave their phone overnight and what results have you seen.
LOU
Alltel
I tried the afore mentioned username and pass and no success, anyway I can get the script line? Or am I doing something wrong?
LouKohley said:
I asked this in the other forum but I'm asking again.
Is it ok to leave the phone on the charger overnight while running android.
AdamWill said yes but it gets hot and he was on a titan.
htc tech support said it's probably not a good idea because the charger circuit is software controlled.
So does anyone leave their phone overnight and what results have you seen.
LOU
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I've left my touch on the charger overnight a number of times and it seems to be fine.
Authentication for Sprint
Just loaded this onto my Sprint Touch and it works great (after fooling with a bad SD card). My only other stumbling block was getting logged into the data network. Turns out that I couldn't leave the username null -- in default.txt I had to specify
set cmdline "[email protected]"
Replace "3525551212" with your cell phone# (starting w/ area code). I'm in the US.
-david
I am trying to install two apk's, IOfilemanager and VideoPlayer.apk...
I put both file in the root of my SD card in a file named AndroidApps
I have the latest vogue-android release, and my sound works so I know I dont have a problem with my radio
I tried putting the file both in the root of sd card, and the phone's memory, but it keeps on showing the glowing android, doing around 3 blinks then restarting, and its a never ending cycle...
I do not have a data connection so I cannot download it via browser...
EDIT: I replaced the files and it worked, mightve been corrupted...
Does anyone know how to get your contacts to work? Thanks
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Does anyone know how to get your contacts to work? Thanks
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what do you mean by work because if you mean that there are no contacts when you boot Android then that is normal because android has no access to the phones memory only the SD Card you can use a few different programs to tranver the contact from WM to Android the best is Funambol.com it has a an app for both wm and Android to sync them via its website and its very easy to use just check out this link for a how to http://www.myhtcphone.com/import-contacts
There's a couple of things I'm still trying to figure out about this whole android thing. My apologies if these questions have already been asked, I could not find them.
1) Why doesn't the "Edit Sync Groups" button do anything? All my contacts are in gmail so I'd like to sync there. I'd also like to sync my google calendar.
2) The screen calibration is a bit off -- how do I re-calibrate?
3) I thought Android had an online app store (think it was called the "Marketplace") --- is this available on the vogue or no? What is the best way to install apps if no.
I apologize in advanced for what are probably ignorant questions.
Thanks!
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There's a couple of things I'm still trying to figure out about this whole android thing. My apologies if these questions have already been asked, I could not find them.
1) Why doesn't the "Edit Sync Groups" button do anything? All my contacts are in gmail so I'd like to sync there. I'd also like to sync my google calendar.
2) The screen calibration is a bit off -- how do I re-calibrate?
3) I thought Android had an online app store (think it was called the "Marketplace") --- is this available on the vogue or no? What is the best way to install apps if no.
I apologize in advanced for what are probably ignorant questions.
Thanks!
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1) this is more of an issues with Google because the Vogue is a port and Google has not opened all parts of the Android OS, or at least that is how i understand it if i am wrong someone please give a more information
2) The screen calibration is kind of a work in progress but there is a way to Calibrate
dzo said:
I've just updated the release on my site.
Screen calibration should work again, press the cam button to display the onscreen kbd, then while pressing the end call button tap opposite corners of the screen.
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3) Marketplace is not available for the Vogue port because it is a closed system the best way to get apps is to down load the apk to you desktop and move them onto the phone through wm for more info check out this link
http://www.myhtcphone.com/node/19
good places to find apk
http://slideme.org/
http://andappstore.com
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Thanks so much for answering those questions. Definitely helps me out. Its really unfortunate that the google syncing doesn't work... all my data is on there :[
At the present time, if I'm booted into Android, and the files needed to boot Android are on the storage card, is there any good way to get an .apk file built by Netbeans (using Undroid) onto my Vogue to test/play with WITHOUT booting back into WM6.1 first? As far as I can tell, Bluetooth isn't implemented, nor is mounting Android's filesystems as USB drives on a tethered PC... and I'm taking for granted that everything will go down in flames if I remove the storage card with Android running ;-)
If I did something slightly Rube-Goldberg-esque, like run a FTP server on my desktop PC with my router redirecting the port to it, then launched a FTP client on the phone to connect to it over the internet and download the .apk file into the "Android Programs" directory on the storage card... would it do any good? Or do .apk files in the folder ONLY autodeploy if they're physically present in that folder when Android itself boots up from WM6.1?
Similarly, if I boot with a .apk file in the directory, launch it and play with it, reboot into WM6.1, rebuild the .apk file, copy it to the storage card's Android Programs subdirectory, relaunch Android, and try IT... then repeat a few dozen or hundred times over the span of a few weeks... will each new version leave crud and residue in Android's equivalent of the registry (assuming it HAS one)? Or will everything related to the previous .apk file be cleanly purged? God forbid, does Android not actually deploy apps AT ALL, and just run them "where they lie" directly from their .apk file?
So far, I'm on chapter 6 of the "Busy Coder's Guide to Android Programming" (v2.0), but I haven't been brave enough yet to try running anything on my real phone since at this point I still have no real idea what's happening "behind the scenes" when Android (or DZO's bootloader?) finds .apk files in the directory on the storage card.
Question:1
I put meebo on my phone, IM. Will this cost data, how will this work?
Question:2
my plan covers unlimited webbrowsing, so on when I go on internet explorer it doesn't charge me, will surfing the web on android cost money?
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Any internet activity should be covered under your unlimited browsing plan. I have the same thing with Bell, and it covers it all (IM, browsing, email, GPS data, etc). You can even watch YouTube videos if you want. Any "Internet Activity". The only thing you can't do is tether your phone to your computer, using you phone as a modem.
It's the same when you're running Android. You can still browse, IM, yatta yatta, all under your plan.
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Hi, I did a simple tracking application to know the phone location if I lose it or it gets stolen.
I'd like to have some thoughts and suggestions, so if someone wants to try it just download it here
Thank you!
post it and let us check it out man, so we can tell you if it is worth anything or not
Any tracking program is going to be easy to bypass...
Alt+W
Turn of GPS
Latitude is the same deal, if you wipe, you lose the log in information on the phone and therefore, it can no longer be tracked.
That being said, the only "true" way to have something like this work (regardless of sim cards/wipes) would be to somehow track the phone by IMEI/SN through a combination of internet usage, cell towers, and GPS. Even though the GPS being turned off is a possible work-around, it renders the phone much less useful. It would also need to be installed with an update so that wipes are useless.
well, personally i have rooted my g1 and installed the app in /system/app, so i think a factory reset shouldn't delete it (am i right?). and gps and network location are automatically enabled for a 60 seconds location scan, then taken back to the previous state.
if you want to check it out, i have put everything here.
all suggestions are welcome!
has anybody tried it? i only received some feedback via email
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has anybody tried it? i only received some feedback via email
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Says Installation Unsuccessful. Tries to copy over "Android System"
ADP1.1 RC33
interesting. i'll try to do a fresh install on both my g1 and the emulator.
What sort of unique features can the app offer?
Currently I'm using GPS Tracker, which is supplied by instamapper.com, and it allows me to have a website such as this: http://thrash-tracker.co.cc/
If my phone gets lost or stolen, I can just check that website.
I released an application on the Market called Phone Finder. It will email you at a custom frequency (default 1 day) with it's location.
tried it but it didn't work.
ADP1.1h.
I'll give it a try. I'm currently using Where's My Android... but sometimes it says that I don't have a data connection. Not very reliable.
ThrashWolf: about instamapper, a user who's trying my app said: "the thing tht I like the most is that if someone where to steal it they wouldn’t know its tracking, unlike the Gps tracker from Instamapper that lets them know its tracking".
However I'll try their service and see what they offer
Koush: i'm a klaxon user and i love it, will install your app as soon as i find it on the market!
mrjay: could you please be more specific? didn't install? thank you very much
i installed it, run it, got to the username/password creation window and after that nothing is happening. i restarted the phone and still nothing i try to run the application and no result. the screen is flickering for a second trying to load the application and that's all.
that's how it works! i designed it to be just a service that runs in the background, you install and it does its work without user interaction.
have you tried to login to the website to see your location and modify settings?
I added some features like activation via sms. Info&download, as usual, on www.trackdroid.org
now i get it. i logged in and watched last entries. looks promising
thanks! if you have suggestions about features to add, just let me know
i was using on my old WM phones this application and i really miss it. maybe you can inspire from this application.
In need of help again, very sorry.
using froyo 2.2 on an ATT vers Nexus One.
Problem:
So with using the default browser (mozilla?), as well as Dolphin HD browser...there are a few important sites I cannot load (no matter what) via 3g or 2G data.
It tries to load at first but just quickly stops leaving me at a blank page.
However, if i switch to my wi-fi network, these same problem pages will load without issue. Not a problem.
But switch back to mobile data 2G or 3G...these sites will not load.
All other websites I visit (so far) load fine either wifi or 3g/2g, it's just some specific ones. This is a constant and consistent problem with specific websites.
The sites are
- hotmail
- ebay mobile
* but I'm sure I'd find others.
So it's strange...perhaps this is best asked in the dev section?
I have no idea what to search on this problem (here or google).
It's as if something is out of whack at the browser end, like it's reading some form data that I could fix/edit/delete and resolve this problem. Or perhaps it's some security bug/issue...
Either way, I need to get this fixed so I can check hotmail if I need to while on the road, ....problem is I don't know where or what to do here for a fix. Any suggestions?
Certain config file, or the like I can edit or del for a fix?
I've DEL the cache, form data, cookies, etc...everything. No fix.
Can the default browser on the nexus one be uninstalled/reinstalled?
I know I can uninstall/reinstall Dolphin HD, I'll try that.
I also like the default browser though...any way this can be fixed?
man, this problem is getting worse...and it's happening in other browsers too.
dolphin and opera.
it's as if there's a glitch that occurs if you once viewed a site via wifi...then when using 3G it has hang ups (blank load screen).
Is there anyone who might have an answer here?
Can the built in browser be reinstalled (froyo 2.2) to try and fix?
Works fine for me.
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I'm sure it does, and that's great. Most pages load fine too here...but...
As mentioned it seems to be more of an odd or rare "glitch" here...like something that goes awry under special circumstances (won't load a certain page under 3g/2g data - but will load same page using my wifi).
Now it's happening with facebook in default browser and dolphin. Seems to be happening due to usage at home (wifi)...then accessing same via 3G/2G (not at home). Some hiccup...causing a no load scenario with cell data (no problems via wifi though).
Can we please only reply if this is something you also encountered or may know what's going on here?
I'm no expert but the sites you described seem to be https sites, a secured version of normal webpages. And you're trying to acces those sites through an unsecured data connection 3G/2G.
So I don't know exactly what https does but I assume it won't allow you to send/receive your data over an unencrypted network.
But as for your hotmail problem, you can configure your stock e-mail app to receive your hotmails.
This definitely is the wrong section to post this, you might get a lot of flack for posting here!
Try installing a new rom, your issues are not normal. Try Enom's newest -- it has a stable kernel, and offers perhaps an updated apn file. Short of that, you need to call your cellphone provider, and find out the apn settings from them (double check), and/or why they are restricting access...
I understand your frustration with not getting a response in the Q&A section, but the dev section is for devs and testers. Maybe look at what distribution of froyo you are running (cyanogen? enom? kang-o-rama? leo?) and post in their respective threads. and if this is just a stock updated froyo, you definitely need to call your cellphone provider.
Good luck!
Also, note the rules: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=614062
verify your APN settings. Same thing happened to me & proper APN settings fixed it.
Not sure the proper ones for AT&T, however.
edit: make sure to clear anything that ought to be cleared -- an asterisk isn't the same as cleared
Delete your Proxy IP and Port under APN settings and try to reload the page.
As mentioned above, 1) this is wrong section, 2) if you're on a custom ROM - try another ROM, and if you're on stock FRF91 or any custom ROM does the same - then it's definitely a problem with your cellular provider and/or your APN settings.
It may pay to check that it's not your carrier.
Can you access those sites with your SIM in another phone?
Merged threads ... please do not create duplicate threads as it clutters up the forum and invites flamming/trolling responses.
Regards,
Hi All-
Trying to get the Audible app working from the android market. It downloads and installs seemingly correctly. I can even browse the audible catalog using it.
What isn't working correctly for me is entering my account information to authorize the device & start playing items from my audible library. I seem to end up in an endless loop of asking for my credentials, saying they're good, followed by asking for them again. (I have another thread open where I am experiencing the exact same problem with the android market -- I can't seem to buy paid apps but free apps download and install fine & dandy)
Hopefully this issue with audible & my android market issue are caused by the same problem & both will start working once solved. In the mean time, can anyone confirm they have audible working on their device??
Thanks,
Mark
Have Exactly Same Issue
I called Audible and spoke with tech service - they even reset my password but to no avail. Audible is basically clueless (owned by Amazon so maybe it's a conspiracy
docfreed said:
I called Audible and spoke with tech service - they even reset my password but to no avail. Audible is basically clueless (owned by Amazon so maybe it's a conspiracy
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I really dont think audible tech support can be faulted for not being able to help you get their app working on a rooted ereader.
Audible and Rooted Nook Color
I have this same issue with the Audible app. I had an email thread with someone from the app team and here is what I got from them.
"The problem is that we are not getting a consistant device id for use in authentication. I'm guessing from the device that you're using that you're making your own framework builds; if so, if you can force the DeviceID field to always give the same value, then your activation problems should stop.
I've deactivated all the activations on your account. Just to be explicit, we check TelephonyManager.getDeviceId(), and if your phone type is TelephonyManager.PHONE_TYPE_NONE we'll check android.provider.Settings.Secure.ANDROID_ID. If for whatever reason you can't get these working correctly, then you can use the .audiblePrefs file from a device where this does work; we cache the device id there in case TelephonyManager.getDeviceId() returns null but your phone type isn't PHONE_TYPE_NONE."
So it looks like someone will need to figure out how to ensure that the Device id remains the same during all the transactions with Audible.
Sean
Thanks for finding that, Sean.
I have an android phone I can look at rooting to get to the mentioned prefs file. Perhaps that would be a way to generate a stop-gap while one of the devs looks into the device id issue.
Mark
Doesn't Market Use the Device ID
It seems that I remember that the Android Market also uses the phone device ID - in fact that is why certain cheap Android tablets cannot have the Market installed. Since we can get Market on a rooted Nook Color with no issue, I don't understand how the device ID would keep changing in case of Audible.
Keeping an eye on this thread. I would love to have my Audible app working
Sent from my nook color using XDA App
Same problem here; also following it like K8108; thanks for any help you guys can come up with!
I havent tried to install audible yet but wanted to listen to my huge library of books on my old mytouch before they had an app and found a solution. You can buy SoundTaxi and rip the downloaded Audible books from your PC to whatever format you want and put on memory card on the Nook and listen. its not as bad as you think.
The odd thing of it is that under 0.2 and side-loading the app seemed to work for me. Moving to the latest autonooter however is causing the authentication problem that everyone is having.
Audible support was very kind, but basically said we do not support tablets only phones. My NC was trying to connect to audible.co.uk thus causing the conflict. As a Californian this isn't going to work for me obviously. The app seems to be able to download but not play the .aa files. Is there anyway to check the server without sending an in-app email, as that is the only way I know how to check?
Subscribed to the thread with hope that someone smarter than me can figure this out.
Update: Forgot to state that using adb of Audible does not work. Does this have anything to do with the new .jar file from Barnes and Noble, or something in the Autonooter itself. 0.2 was working very nice, but that was also under 1.0.0.
So doesn't anyone have any android device with working Audible on it... that can examine .audiblePrefs
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So doesn't anyone have any android device with working Audible on it... that can examine .audiblePrefs
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I have audible working on my android rooted HD2 - and have put several builds on there, but don't know a lot of techie stuff. If you will explain to me where to look, I could have a try.
It's been suggested to copy a working .audiblePrefs file over, but I don't have another android device to set up. I might borrow one, though, for a temporary setup, to get a working .audiblePrefs file (or an Id anyway), if I knew it was the way to get around this glitch. Was hoping someone with a NC and another android device would have tried it by now.
I have a Samsung Fascinate with Audible. I copied .audiblePrefs from my SF to my NC, rebooted my NC, and I am still in the loop of entering my username and password.
I am don't know much about the technical side of this, but I am very good at following directions. If there is anything you want me to try, just let me know. I am very anxious to try this.
I don't mind posting my .audiblePrefs file, but I don't know if there is personal information in there that I should be careful about posting.
I think you should keep your prefs file to yourself... it may be specific enough to include subscriber Id. Also, you may have exceeded your activation limit if you've tried too many times before copying your prefs... an email to Audible can reset the limit.
I find it interesting that the activation loop includes a quick flash of "Activation successful" on the screen. Audible sent me a reply in response to question... that they reset my activations... didn't solve prob, of course. Also interesting that I -can- play recent 'free' excerpts dnld'd from them via Audible app on the NC.
Just need a modder to look into this Id storage/reading. I'm a comptech but just a newbie on Android/NC.
I call all the time to have Audible reset my activations. That is no big deal for me. I am rooting phones all the time or switching computers and I never deactivate devices the way you are supposed to. I do wish Audible would wise up and give their users a way to reset activations online. But at least they never hassle me about resetting them when I call them.
Any new updates on getting Audible to work? Just did the autonooter and have hit the same problem.
Thanks,
Tim
I did the autonooter thing to update to 1.1. Uninstalled and re -installed Audible. Error message came up about having to many devices. Called Audible. They reset my acct. Uninstalled and reinstalled again. This time the activation took. I using Audible with no problems.
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I did the autonooter thing to update to 1.1. Uninstalled and re -installed Audible. Error message came up about having to many devices. Called Audible. They reset my acct. Uninstalled and reinstalled again. This time the activation took. I using Audible with no problems.
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I went from a stock 1.1.0 and then applied autonooter for the first time. Audible does not allow the authentication to occur just as the original poster noted.
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I did the autonooter thing to update to 1.1. Uninstalled and re -installed Audible. Error message came up about having to many devices. Called Audible. They reset my acct. Uninstalled and reinstalled again. This time the activation took. I using Audible with no problems.
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I did same thing (except I requested only my Android activations be reset, so as not to affect my PC or WinMo phone)...and have been using Audible on my NC successfully for a week.
8-31-21: My report on the death of this app for the NST is a little premature. See post #5, etc., for a "fix". It worked for the poster and it worked for me. It might work for you.
Don't shoot the messenger...
Sometime in late 2020 or early 2021 it became impossible to negotiate an initial login with the Kindle app (yes, even with the OTP they email you). I've checked the security certificates and they are fine. I've tried installing the app on newer devices, going all the way to Oreo. Same behavior. A logcat on the NST shows a failed SSL negotiation so it looks like the server just won't talk to the old app any longer--at least for an initial authorization. That's the very bad news.
There is a tiny bit of good news for those who already have the Kindle app installed and authorized. At least on my three devices it continues to function completely. You can still check out Overdrive Kindle books and send them to your device and the same book on different devices appears to sync. You can also sideload .mobi books and read those. The clock is, however, probably ticking.
I mention this as a warning for anyone who has a legacy Kindle installation and is thinking of doing major work on their device. If you uninstall or wipe out the Kindle app, it's gone for good. It may be possible to use something like Titanium Backup to restore the app. I was able to find all this out after a reset and then restore my NookManager backup and the app worked fine.
Edit: I have done a little experimenting and the app authorization token appears to include a lot about the device and system. So it's not possible to use Titanium Backup. I tried this on a FW 1.2.1 installation with a working copy of Kindle. Then I updated and rooted FW 1.2.2, installed the Kindle app and then restored a Titanium backup from the same device (but with FW 1.2.1). It failed to initialize, asking to register again. I've had success only in restoring a NookManager backup from the same device with the same FW, etc., and in cloning a device from a NookManager backup. This is not something I would necessarily recommend, but you might have your reasons. However, when I tried to correct the MAC address, this threw off the Kindle app token and it reverted to asking for registration again. So there's very little wiggle room for preserving a working installation if you have to do any significant changing.
I have seen your report in the thread where you were trying to help another forum member to overcome the issues he had with his device. This strengths my beliefs that for resolving the SSL issue work on kernel(s) must be done. Question is where exactly? In Linux kernel or somewhere in Android? What SSL is used on NST if the snag is in Linux - OpenSSL or LibreSSL?
In the defense of the NST I must say that recently saw on YouTube video someone put Alpine Linux on Kindle PW3. What am I trying to say is that older generation of this kind of devices suffer from same illness regardless of brand manufacturer pushing people to just abandon the legacy software on them and create their own custom made one tailored for their devices and their intended way of use.
If the SSL layer is somewhere in Android oh boy that might be harder cookie to bake from my point of view.
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I have seen your report in the thread where you were trying to help another forum member to overcome the issues he had with his device. This strengths my beliefs that for resolving the SSL issue work on kernel(s) must be done. Question is where exactly? In Linux kernel or somewhere in Android? What SSL is used on NST if the snag is in Linux - OpenSSL or LibreSSL?
In the defense of the NST I must say that recently saw on YouTube video someone put Alpine Linux on Kindle PW3. What am I trying to say is that older generation of this kind of devices suffer from same illness regardless of brand manufacturer pushing people to just abandon the legacy software on them and create their own custom made one tailored for their devices and their intended way of use.
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SJT75 said:
I have seen your report in the thread where you were trying to help another forum member to overcome the issues he had with his device. This strengths my beliefs that for resolving the SSL issue work on kernel(s) must be done. Question is where exactly? In Linux kernel or somewhere in Android? What SSL is used on NST if the snag is in Linux - OpenSSL or LibreSSL?
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My understanding of the issues is very limited. I once happened into a discussion where it was stated that apps which need to communicate with external servers contain their own SSL certificate which has an expiration date. If so, apps like that just die a "natural" death.
It's actually amazing that there are some apps requiring logins that still work on the NST. Two that come to mind are ancient versions of Pandora and TuneIn Radio. I use both and they still perform flawlessly. For now.
Until today I didn't know what Pandora is but I am familiar with TuneIn radio app. Good to know that some of those apps is still working. Well it just had to be complicated with SSL/TLS hidden somewhere in Android layer. I totally understand why people like Android user friendly UI and apps availability. Still gamble with Java seems that didn't paid of regarding promised platform crossing ability.
So either porting to a new Android version which probably will not be very new (low RAM) or making custom Linux which is anything but user friendly?
Edit: Scratch that question about Linux and the app OP mentioned! I just realize that there is no Linux Kindle app. It could be used through Wine and such witchcraft but that is stupid way of doing things on this device. Better option is to use it on PC and then pass it on to NST using Calibre IMHO. SSL/TLS although remains as weak spot for the time being. Oh well... If that issue with certificates get somehow fixed maybe Kindle cloud reader from browser could reclaim at least part of functions of dedicated Kindle app.
For what its worth I recently got a NST and managed to get the kindle app running this morning. I upgraded to FW 1.2.2, rooted with Nook Manager, and installed the app with adb. The sticking point for me was that I had to go into my Amazon account and disable two-factor authentication. When I tried to log in with the app it still gave the bad password error, and Amazon still sent a text message with an OTP, and that let me log in. This same process DID NOT work if I had two-factor auth turned on in my Amazon account.
I don't understand why they still sent an OTP when two-factor auth is turned off, but they did, and it worked.
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For what its worth I recently got a NST and managed to get the kindle app running this morning. I upgraded to FW 1.2.2, rooted with Nook Manager, and installed the app with adb. The sticking point for me was that I had to go into my Amazon account and disable two-factor authentication. When I tried to log in with the app it still gave the bad password error, and Amazon still sent a text message with an OTP, and that let me log in. This same process DID NOT work if I had two-factor auth turned on in my Amazon account.
I don't understand why they still sent an OTP when two-factor auth is turned off, but they did, and it worked.
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Wow! This is very good news. I'll give it a try tomorrow on a fresh system and see if I can get it to work.
Did you by any chance go back and turn on the two-factor login and see if the app still connected after first initializing it?
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Wow! This is very good news. I'll give it a try tomorrow on a fresh system and see if I can get it to work.
Did you by any chance go back and turn on the two-factor login and see if the app still connected after first initializing it?
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Yes, I should have mentioned that. I re-enabled two-factor and downloaded a book to test, everything worked fine. I'm currently using this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-eink-friendly-amazon-kindle-3-2-0-35.2024062/) version of the app, but I don't think it should matter much.
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Yes, I should have mentioned that. I re-enabled two-factor and downloaded a book to test, everything worked fine. I'm currently using this (https://forum.xda-developers.com/t/app-eink-friendly-amazon-kindle-3-2-0-35.2024062/) version of the app, but I don't think it should matter much.
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Excellent. As I expected based on legacy installs continuing to work, once the credentials are on the device, you're good to go whether you use single or two factor login after.
I had a password issue with Amazon awhile back and I'll bet that's where the problem originated. When I changed my password, authentication must have gone to two-factor. I need to check that, but I'm pretty sure that's it. What great news! Back to seamless library book checkout and download, all on the device!
BTW, the version of the app you mention is the only one that works (again!) on the NST.
Something is weird on the Amazon side right now. Even though two factor was turned off, they still sent the OTP. The only difference is that it actually worked when two-factor was disabled, but didn't work when it was enabled. Very strange.
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Something is weird on the Amazon side right now. Even though two factor was turned off, they still sent the OTP. The only difference is that it actually worked when two-factor was disabled, but didn't work when it was enabled. Very strange.
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Mmm... I'm glad you posted this before I started testing. I have two NSTs with working Kindle apps right now and I don't want to trash those while tracking down the "solution". I need to think about how I'm going to approach this.
OK, I think my last message was a little unclear.
What I meant was that with two-factor enabled you are supposed to be able to log in with a legacy device, have it give you a password error, receive an OTP via text or email, then use the OTP to actually log in. However, this does not work when two-factor is enabled.
What does work is first disabling two-factor auth, then trying to log in. You will still get a password error, they will still send you an OTP and the OTP will now let you log in and register the device.
This is what I meant when I said something was weird, when two-factor is disabled they shouldn't even be sending you an OTP. It's like disabling two-factor makes it work correctly, rather than turning it off.
To be absolutely clear, once I registered the app, I was able to download a book when two-factor was either on or off. The only thing that was affected was the ability to do the initial sign in.
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OK, I think my last message was a little unclear.
What I meant was that with two-factor enabled you are supposed to be able to log in with a legacy device, have it give you a password error, receive an OTP via text or email, then use the OTP to actually log in. However, this does not work when two-factor is enabled.
What does work is first disabling two-factor auth, then trying to log in. You will still get a password error, they will still send you an OTP and the OTP will now let you log in and register the device.
This is what I meant when I said something was weird, when two-factor is disabled they shouldn't even be sending you an OTP. It's like disabling two-factor makes it work correctly, rather than turning it off.
To be absolutely clear, once I registered the app, I was able to download a book when two-factor was either on or off. The only thing that was affected was the ability to do the initial sign in.
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OK, that's what I had hoped for and expected since my two working installs were made before my auth. got changed to two-factor. With really old apps you never quite know how server negotiation is going to evolve.
I hope to give it a try later today.
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To be absolutely clear, once I registered the app, I was able to download a book when two-factor was either on or off. The only thing that was affected was the ability to do the initial sign in.
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When I went to my Amazon account it seemed like 2SV was not enabled, by which I mean that clicking on "edit" for the settings generated an email which contained a link that took me to a page with a button that said "Get Started".
I didn't pursue this. I didn't see anything about turning it off--or should I have gone farther along?
That's odd, it does sound like it's not turned on... If you didn't have other devices that you were worried about I would say that you should just turn it on then try to log in. If that doesn't work, turn it off and try again. I think the risk is minimal, but clearly there is something different about your account, so it's up to you.
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That's odd, it does sound like it's not turned on... If you didn't have other devices that you were worried about I would say that you should just turn it on then try to log in. If that doesn't work, turn it off and try again. I think the risk is minimal, but clearly there is something different about your account, so it's up to you.
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Yeah, this is not working for me. I looked at the 2SV stuff again this morning and thought, "well, I'll just set it up and then disable it". Except I don't own a mobile phone (no, truly, just an emergency ancient (non-text message) device I keep in my glove compartment), and the QR thingy woud do me no good with the NST. So I'm cooked.
Despite apparently not having 2SV set up, now I can't even generate an OTP email when I try to login with the Kindle app. But my two working installations continue to function. Puzzlement.
Edit: I had a friend with a mobile phone help me out. So I finally got to where I could "disable" 2SV. But it made no difference. Still can't log in or even generate an OTP email by trying to log in. I'm glad this worked for you and I'd like to think it might work for others, but alas my account appears to be "special".
Edit-Edit: Yeehaw! It took a lot of fumbling for me with the unwieldy password I had to recreate in the near past, but by clearing the dalvik cache and making sure that 2SV was actually listed as "disabled" at Amazon, I was finally able to log in a new installation!!! Now I don't have to run a "clone" of another device on this particular NST. Thank you, @wrexroad, for taking the time to look into this and communicate your findings. One big step back from the brink for the Kindle app
That's awesome, I'm glad you got it running! In the future, if you need to get a password via text, you can use a temporary number here: https://sms24.me/en/countries/us/
Hey folks,
I just stumbled into this NST world and want to share my experience with the Kindle app. I'm on FW 1.2.2, and used NookManager to root. I replaced the certs file as recommended in another thread. Once I was ready to login, I enabled 2fa on my Amazon account in a browser. The instructions there clarified that I would need to use PASSWORD+OTP when registering my device. Previously I had tried only the OTP, or only my normal passwrord, but those failed. Appending the OTP to my password, I was able to login.
Hope that helps anyone else who has reached this point.