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what is the most populat os out there?

let me see your opinion on the mac vs PC vs Linux war!

pc because many companies use them and i predict mac in the future for security. linux is more for advanced users so less popular but with android it may rise in popularity...

Like Airfaire says.
I use iMac (desktop computer) and dualboot Win7 and Ubuntu on my laptop.

What is this pc os.where can I download? I use windows I hear its the most popular. PC stands for personal computer it is not an os.
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I loved opensolaris. But that's pretty much dead now....
Freebsd is pretty nice
But I think Linux is the best os ever!
Windows.... go die

Triple boot: Mac, Win7 and Ubuntu 11.04 on pc
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Dual boot: Win7 and Ubuntu 10.10.
VmWare: MSDOS 6, Win1.1, Win95, WinXP, Mac OSX, and im trying to get the x86 port of Android going... I cant get it to work
My favourite? Ubuntu for sure.
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Not sure how do you measure populat by knowing which OS we use...
Daily: Windows 7 64-bit
Just for the geek cred: Linux, when I just need the browser.

microsoft own most of the os market share

Just get all of them!
Windows 7, Ubuntu 11?, Mac OS X, Android x86.
Mess around with them and use the one you find the best.

Windows is a best OS ever

jackhooper said:
Windows is a best OS ever
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XP Pro more specifically. Vista Sucks.

Dualboot Windows XP and Windows 7.
Smartphone Android

I use everything on my lap top. Windows, ubuntu, android honeycomb, android 2.3
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I dual boot Win 7/Ubuntu. Never have been a big fan of macs.

Vista sucks.

Use Win7 32bit as my daily driver. I boot Knoppix DVD when I have time to try and improve my knowledge of Linux. Been using computers ever since the 8 bit days. Never used a Mac.

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Windows or Linux?

Which do yall prefer? I would love to run Linux ubuntu on my laptop but windows runs so much faster. Any way to speed up ubuntu?
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I'm running fedora, but some of my devs are running ubuntu.. And 2 are on windows 7. Can't say that I've noticed a significant speed difference in any of the environments, and they're on the same hardware.
What in particular seems slow?
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How can linux be slower than windows?
It runs on far lower end systems but instead it suffers of incompatibility of some hardware and more bugs. I would reckon it's less secure too but because of it's unpopularity it is less attacked.
When a computer is old and slow I usually recommend installing ubuntu so that they can work with it.
Are you sure all drivers are installed correctly?

Ubuntu linux was always faster than windows 7 and xp for me. I'm using 10.10 if that matters.

I have to agree with you. I have a small HP netbook that runs fast as can be with Ubuntu. When it was running Windows I wanted to return it back to the store. That was the main reason for installing Ubuntu on it. I'm also running Ubuntu on a few desktops. Its a great OS.
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Ubuntu linux was always faster than windows 7 and xp for me. I'm using 10.10 if that matters.
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Windows. I hate Linux with every ounce of my being from being forced to use it in several classes.
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ubuntu can be installed within windows using wubi, why not have both? you don't even need to worry about repartition yours harddrive.

Windows is best

Linux is fun. But with an atypic distribution like Archlinux, sometimes, you lose so much time to repair....
For this reason, to work, I use Windows, to geek, Linux !

You should use both.

I run windows but I have Ubuntu on a flash drive. I find that Ubuntu is more fun to mess around with and is easier to get around website blocks at school. The only reason I still use Windows is because of gaming.

always windows.
windows 7 professionel atm

Linux for everything except gaming.

Well on my Desktop I'm currently running Windows. On my phone, I'm currently running a Linux Bootloader, so that's a tough choice (HTC HD2). I think you should stay with Windows, due to the fact that its more reliable on computers in most cases. It's highly preferable to use a customized Linux Bootloader on your phone though, if it's able to read one like the HTC HD2 .

Me and my girlfriend got four PCs
My desktop running win7 32bit
My netbook with Ubuntu 11.04 It came with Win7starter
Girlfriends Laptop win7sp1 64bit
Our HTPC in the livingroom Ubuntu 11.04.
Also having an unused WinXP license, that came with my desktop.
Linux is OK for those things there are software matching the Win7
Like Firefox, Thunderbird, VLC and some more.
Would have running any Linux distro on my desktop if there where a photo and video editing software that could hold it to the ones for Windows.
Linux do piss me off more than once in while.
1. That thing with administrator rights, why? One can always re-install!
2.Why it isn't just to download and double click install files to get the program installed in Linux?
3.There are more, but not worth mentioning.

Linux is the best

bballer71418 said:
Which do yall prefer? I would love to run Linux ubuntu on my laptop but windows runs so much faster. Any way to speed up ubuntu?
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Ubuntu actually clocks faster than windows 7. I think around 5 times faster in fact.

linux, ubuntu 11

I stick to Windows more often than not, partly because of the software I use (e.g. Adobe Lightroom) and partly because I generally find that Windows has a smoother and more responsive user interface on the same hardware.
I've found this on my netbook a couple of years ago (Ubuntu Netbook Remix and straight Ububtu vs Windows XP), my work PCs (Centos vs Windows XP, and the Centos machine has more RAM) and my home PC (Fedora 14 vs Windows XP/32 and Windows 7/64). The first couple of times I did this comparison I was surprised, but I've come to see it as normal these days.

I have grown up with Windows...but with time...my hate to it growed as well...currently I am running a Linux (Pinguy 64bit) version on my new Hp laptop...which is really a well customized version of Ubuntu...it is more stable...super fast...and elegant if compared with Windows 7 64bit...moreover...Pinguy is free compated to the almost $250 Windows...that eacg time you install an update...Windows gets slower...Also note it is not the.case with Pinguy...Keep in mind that Pinguy has all drivers bundelled with it...i needed not a single driver dowbload...even for my Scanner and Printer...All programs are totally free that you can get fro the Ubuntu Software Center bundelled with Pinguy...I advice you to give it a try...and I guarantee you will stick to it and have Windows in you history...Good luck everyone...and hope I helped a bit
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Windows 7 on the Touchpad?

Any chance of or anyone know how to put win 7 onto my touchpad? I think it would make a great candidate for it.

Not possible natively as W7 doesn't offer an ARM port, unlike W8, which will. Now W7 via an emulator, that is another story.

As tbaker wrote you -
different architecture -
Mac OS & Windows uses x86/x86-64.
Android & iOS uses ARM.
Windows 8 will be also compiled against ARM.
TouchPad is Snapdragon ARM based.
Another thing to keep in mind is how much source is available.
Android is Open-Source from ground so usually once drivers are being written you can get it up & running to some extent.
Not the same with other platforms (Eg. W7 & iOS on Android devices)

tbaker077 said:
Not possible natively as W7 doesn't offer an ARM port, unlike W8, which will. Now W7 via an emulator, that is another story.
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I bet that would run like a dead dog.

piiman said:
I bet that would run like a dead dog.
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I'd be far more interested in getting Windows 8 (beta/alpha?) on this thing

SynGamer said:
I'd be far more interested in getting Windows 8 (beta/alpha?) on this thing
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229307

W7 would run like absolute garbage on it most likely.

Windows 7 isn't ARM compliant but Windows 7 Compact Embeded is.

oups no it's not.

Sorry, i reboot my brain :
- Windows Embedded Compact 7 can run on ARM, MIPS, x86
- Windows Embedded Standard 7 can run on x86 / x64 only.
- Windows Phone 7 can be an another option to run Windows on HP touchpad...
(WCE 7 legal demo : Low-risk business model
• Download a 180-day trial edition
of Windows Embedded Compact 7
• Create product demos and build real
proof-of-concept devices to show to
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I know dos-box already exists, you could probably do qemu under chrooted ubuntu... Windows 7 would probably work, you'd be on the VERY low side of usable ram (~700mb), and I can guarantee it would be so slow that it isn't worth using. A stripped version of XP... might be worth looking into.

Like that :
google "Microsoft shows off Windows Embedded Compact 7 (Windows CE 7) tablet with Metro-Like UI"

Interesting what will it take to get Windows 7 Compact installed on the TP?

More work than its worth.
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I think WP7 would run well on the pad.
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I wonder if Windows Phone 7.5 has the required drivers to run on the touchpad. Ram should be fine as most windows phones are running on 512mb ram

Yes sure, WP7 is based on Windows CE 7.

hyperfire21 said:
I wonder if Windows Phone 7.5 has the required drivers to run on the touchpad. Ram should be fine as most windows phones are running on 512mb ram
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I'm sure it does.
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Windows 7 on the Touchpad - possible or not?
Hey Guys!
As far as I remember...the Touchpad first was designed to be used with Windows 7 (wasn´t it?). After a while they distinguished between the slate and the touchpad...so is it possible, to get Windows 7 working on the Touchpad?

Not in a million years.
Windows 7 won't ever be ported to the ARM architecture.
Windows 8 is possible, but highly unlikely since the ARM version won't be available through retail channels.

Ubuntu fior android

http:**androlinux.com*android-ubuntu-development*how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
replace the stars with /
Iv got noo idea whether thisll work on mini...( i think ubuntu requires atleast 700 mhz processor ).. but no harm trying..
would be kinna cool to boast bout your mini with ubuntu os eh!
developers-- getting any creative ideas bout making use of this ??

rahulthedarkknight said:
http:**androlinux.com*android-ubuntu-development*how-to-install-ubuntu-on-android/
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Iv got noo idea whether thisll work on mini...( i think ubuntu requires atleast 700 mhz processor ).. but no harm trying..
would be kinna cool to boast bout your mini with ubuntu os eh!
developers-- getting any creative ideas bout making use of this ??
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Don't know if it will work on Galaxy Mini or not... But, Ubuntu is said to be available for smartphone and tablets very soon.... So, just wait for some official announcements and then only we need is some device manufacturer who can make smartphone with the released versuion of Ubuntu for smartphone.

cool !!!! keen to see ubuntu in my mini !!!

if anyone tries, please post!

It's works only if your ROM build supports uloops.
Original idea was posted by same guy that jailbrake iphones.
A original quoted think by Saurik:
Code:
This does not replace Android. This also gives you access to the full plethora of programs available in Debian and let's you continue using your phone as it was intended to be: as an Android device with all the capabilities thereof.
Please note that this is not a "port": Debian already supports ARM EABI, which is the underlying architecture of Android.
http://www.saurik.com/id/10
I tested a wile a go to install but was unssuces because my ROM build dose not support uloops.
But is not realy a Linux.Is just a linux installed on a device and you can visualize via a VNC server.Is almost the some with using a VNC to remote connect via wifi to your pc ,but this time is installed on your sd card.So speed is not limited anymore by wifi or 3g connection.
Debian and Ubuntu(what is a debian version) has support for ARM processors with armel builds.They build first time armel support for PPC notebooks that had ARM v.5 and ARM v.6(not very sure). Cortex cpu.So a native support for ARM cpu-s is there from long time.
I have no idea if support ARM v.6.
There is also a KDE version but supports only ARM v.7
http://plasma-active.org/
And is come only with a HP tablet and Nvidia Tegra 2 for the moment.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5l6R2HSKKRE

Hi..i once installed ubuntu on my mini but it was very slow and i deleted it...it worked only with cm7 or andro-id i dont really remember but it worked...
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[Q] Windows 8 on Dell Streak 7

Has anyone figured out how to get windows 8 on the Dell Streak 7. This owuld be interesting. Can someone try to see if its possible.

You cant, period.
Win8/ARM isnt even available yet
Win8 needs a UEFI bootloader(?)
No drivers

I'm going to take a look at it, but most likely it won't happen.

For get about windows on the streak 7.... It would make more sense to have full ubuntu on this tablet...
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s14evil said:
For get about windows on the streak 7.... It would make more sense to have full ubuntu on this tablet...
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agreed...

Thorough there is no Arm version of windows 8 at this moment it will have one mobile version, microsoft work on it ( for getting inside mobile market )
concerning Drivers , like other windows version , drivers are inside because it supporte tegra 3 , so tegra 2 also ( i suppose that , no source)
So yes I think you can .
Question is : How to put it on.
But i join precedent post , i prefer have android 3.2 ( and i would want test 4 if i find tutorial to do it ,thanks if you mp me links ) wich is designed for this wonderful tab ( yes i love it ! but damned I hate the browser installed, and stil no chrome available ...sigh )
I m french man so ... sorry for my poor , bad , ugly english . ( don't report me i do my best ! )

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If you are that desperate for windows on the dell streak 7 look into windows embedded or windows compact embedded (more than likely the one you want) then theme it to look and work like win8 although you will have all kinds of problems with it initially but hey at least its progress... also win8 (yes the RT variant too I believe) is locked to utilise the touch screen features on display ratio's greater than 1366x768 although that could probably be changed with registry patches, so unless you could get it on the streak 7 with native OTG support then you may have some luck if you manage to port the RT variant to the streak in the first place...
TLDR: probably a fair bit of work pulling it from an RT device first then even more pushing it to another

Windows 8 RT (ARM VERSION) will be coming out soon, on the Surface Tab. I'm sure a port of it is going to be possible, maybe not for this device but for other Android devices in the near future.
Hopefully someone will dedicate their time to porting Windows 8 RT onto this device.

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Windows 8 RT (ARM VERSION) will be coming out soon, on the Surface Tab. I'm sure a port of it is going to be possible, maybe not for this device but for other Android devices in the near future.
Hopefully someone will dedicate their time to porting Windows 8 RT onto this device.
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the same was said about WP7, never saw it on any device that was released without it already

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the same was said about WP7, never saw it on any device that was released without it already
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But it has worked the other way around. In which you were able to install Android on a Windows phone

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But it has worked the other way around. In which you were able to install Android on a Windows phone
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that may be the case, but not valid for this argument as nobody has ported wp7 to a device which it wasnt natively designed for.. windows is closed source for the most part, android is open source apart from the odd drivers (majority of OEMs withholding some/most information and/or kernel source) may as well make use of win8 embedded seeing as it is now out

Win8 RT won't be available as a separate system. It will only run on the devices where it is preinstalled by manufacturer. The chance you can run it on another device is pretty close to zero.
But the strongest point - why would anyone want it? A system which is heavilly locked, has no apps, no options to customize, almost no support from developers and apparently no future.
I would appreciate if I could run Ubuntu on my Dell Streak 7. That would turn it into a next generation device with the ability to use all desktop Linux applications.

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Win8 RT won't be available as a separate system. It will only run on the devices where it is preinstalled by manufacturer. The chance you can run it on another device is pretty close to zero.
But the strongest point - why would anyone want it? A system which is heavilly locked, has no apps, no options to customize, almost no support from developers and apparently no future.
I would appreciate if I could run Ubuntu on my Dell Streak 7. That would turn it into a next generation device with the ability to use all desktop Linux applications.
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win8 embedded has ARM support for the teg' series, you may wanna do some R&D before jumping the gun

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win8 embedded has ARM support for the teg' series, you may wanna do some R&D before jumping the gun
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I know that, but what does it have in common with my post? The chipset is not the only HW on a PC/tablet.

javlada said:
I know that, but what does it have in common with my post? The chipset is not the only HW on a PC/tablet.
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RT and embedded are completely different, RT wont be run on "custom class" devices while embedded will, that is why you wont see slot machines running anything apart from windows embedded..... which of course you can run unsigned drivers on (extra win factor) so that pesky luna driver wont be an issue if someone decompiles and converts to win

A idea I had to getting win8 running was to install backtrack5 and then run win8 on a VM through vituralbox inside BT5. Only things stopping me at the moment from testing it is getting the mount points swapped around for the system and SD card; because BT5 the VirtualBox and win8 would all need about 17-18GB of room total. As soon as I get them swapped and everything installed I'll give it a try and report back.

I havnt had a chance to check the device manager on a Surface RT, but likely the largest hurdles for win8 on any arm device:
Bootloader: The Surface RT (and likely all windows RT devices) uses UEFI, and all android tablets do not.
Windows RT is essentially Win8core/arm with things removed vs the x86 and x64 versions.
I would expect that it takes advantage of UEFI services during bootup, and we would essentially need a uefi bootloader ported to the S7.
Ram: Win8 doesnt like 512mb ram, arm or not. If we could hypothetically boot it, it would likely not run well.
Display: The S7 has a 800x480 display, which means that all "metro" apps will not run, and as winRT currently has no third party apps, it would be completely crippled.
Drivers: I didnt get a chance to poke around winRT's device manager, but some components may already have drivers.
I would expect that it's like win8/x86 and win8/x64 in that it just needs a working driver and it does not need to be tailored to the specific device.
(for example: if you have the win8/arm driver for a broadcom BCM4330 wifi card, it will work for all winRT devices that use it)
If we hypothecially were able to install winRT, we would likely have no touchscreen drivers and battery drivers.
Also the tegra2 likely wouldnt have platform drivers while the tegra3 does.
Even if you were able to write your own drivers, winRT might require drivers to be signed and there might be no way to disable signature verification on winRT.
I expect that windows update can deliver driver updates in the same way as win8/x86/x64.
WinRT is essentially a "desktop os" and not a "mobile os," you can even repartition a surface RT from within windows like you would expect on win8/x86/x64
On android you could use repartition a live device, but it's simply not designed for it.
Just because it's install media isnt available means very little to us, this is true for wp7 and somewhat true for android.
Granted: if we could run winRT, i'd definitely use it (even if it was crippled by the lack of "metro" apps). Not all of us want desktop linux and would rather stop using the device if we were forced to choose.

looks like win8 embedded is the next best thing if anyone is really that desperate for win8... even then its an issue of drivers

I think it would be better and easier to get ubuntu native on the streak if you want a desktop environment.
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