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Want to try Linux...which version?

Hey guys, first off Happy New Year.
Out of curiosity, I want to try Linux for myself and see what the hype is all about.
On http://www.linux.com/download_linux there are tons of different versions. I'm not a developer, just a Linux-newbie looking to explore around to see what's up. I don't plan on replacing my current OS with it, just run it at the same time and play around with it.
So, which Linux distribution would be best for me? And can I use something like Vmware Player to boot it?
edit: Forgot to mention
Using a Dell Inspiron E1505 running Windows Vista Home Premium.
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Ubuntu
good place to start IMO
good luck and have fun
and a happy new year to you in la la land
p.s...always use a live cd...this way your see if it works ok with your dell before installing
Ubuntu lets you install inside windows....and its so easy...my mom could install it
so you keep vista and have Ubuntu....then just choose which one you want to use on boot up

I used this site : http://www.zegeniestudios.net/ldc/
I need openSUSE 11.1, apparantly.
Ta
Dave

thanks for that dave
never seen that before
its told me
Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuSE or Ubuntu....so i was right...well for me any how

liamhere said:
never seen that before
its told me
Fedora, Mandriva, OpenSuSE or Ubuntu....so i was right...well for me any how
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I wanted a new linux distro to throw on my old machine instead of smoothwall, so I just google "linux distro chooser" or something similar and found it
I've downloaded and burnt it to DVD, I just need time to set it up
Dave

vicjan88 said:
Hey guys, first off Happy New Year.
Out of curiosity, I want to try Linux for myself and see what the hype is all about.
On http://www.linux.com/download_linux there are tons of different versions. I'm not a developer, just a Linux-newbie looking to explore around to see what's up. I don't plan on replacing my current OS with it, just run it at the same time and play around with it.
So, which Linux distribution would be best for me? And can I use something like Vmware Player to boot it?
edit: Forgot to mention
Using a Dell Inspiron E1505 running Windows Vista Home Premium.
Anything else you need to know? Ask.
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UBUNTU is very popular an the community provides great support. Personally, I really like a distro that is a fork off of the UBUNTU distro called LINUX MINT. MINT is setup where many of the multimedia formats that don't work in UBUNTU by default because of licensing issues will work anyway. Decreases startup time.

Hello, vicjan88
Well, Ubuntu is nice, but actually teaches you to do things the windows-way. Yeah, it's so. It's a sort of a good place to start, but then you should move on to something more serious and.. less buggy. If you are just a small bit aware of what MBR is and have an idea of how to better partition your drives - i advise you to chose either fedora core or mandriva. They are a good place to start (my first distro was some old red hat,and it was nice). The thing about a distro for a beginner is that it should have good graphical or pseudo-graphical interface to configure everything - so that one can at least make his linux box feel working as good as windows. Experience comes from practice, so when you become quite familiar with your first distro, the rest will go just fine. Actually it is a good idea to start with Debian. But choose the testing version. Neither unstable, nor stable - they have certain problems. Or, ArchLinux. It is a nice distro, but the problem is that there is few software compiled for it, but the wiki and forums are just perfect. Anyhow, write back when you install some distro. Have fun!

coose Ubuntu, the newer editions lets you install "inside windows" its a feature called wubi
so you dont need any knowledge on partitioning or anything else

I think the best thing about linux is, it's not windows, it's different and, to a M$ fanboy like me, it's something new to learn. No point using Linux, if you're going to use it like Windows
@Ather, I've de-creased your post count.
Ta
Dave

Ubuntu is very similar to XP in many ways and is a nice, intuitive way into Linux.

Kubuntu if you want it to look more like win.

NUU! Go with
openSUSE or Ubuntu Ultimate. I personally have the following OS's on my pc;
openSUSE
Ubuntu Ultimate
BackTrack
Win XP

Ubuntu is nice if you are starting out with Linux. You might even find another distro which you like more. I use Ubuntu as a virtual machine if I need it, and standalone on my older machine. I also like having BackTrack 3 on my USB flash drive if I need it.
Dave

ubuntu is great,. i have ever used it once,.

I've always been partial to openSUSE, but the recent release of 11 was somewhat dissapointing for me (perticularly with KDE4) as it seemed a bit half hearted. Ubuntu isn't bad and is certainatly popular and Kubuntu is good if you prefer KDE to GNOME (which I personally do)

I prefer KDE, thats's why I've decided to use openSUSE more.
I just installed new OS's yesterday
newest openSUSE
Ubuntu Ultimate Gamers Edition v2.0
Windows 7 Ultimate
Windows XP SP3

Pick Ubuntu. It's the most user-friendly version out there and that's the one I've always used. It works on all my computers from the old 300mhz P3 to the 1.6ghz dual-core laptop. There are also different versions of Ubuntu with different desktop environnements. Consider Kubuntu (KDE), Xubuntu (XFCE) and the rest.
If you want to put it on a laptop, be ready for a challenge. While everything will work out of the box for desktops, Wi-Fi hardware is a pain in the butt to set up. Once you're done with that, however, there's no going back, Linux is awesome!

[Q] Dell Inspiron Duo

Hi, My next computer will be a Dell Inspiron Duo... So i want to know if i can install Android using all drivers (better Honeycomb jejeje) and of course with dual boot, its perfect to mix a laptop with tablet
thx
I

I am a little more greedy. I would like to have triple boots on the Dell Inspiron Duo.
One for Win7;
2nd one for linux;
3rd one for Android 2.2
from android-x86 dot org

Have you thought bout havein it Virutalised ?
i got:
Base OS: Windows 7 Ultmaite SP1
__ Virtual Machines
Linux Ubuntu 10.10 32x
Linux Mint 10 32x
Windows XP Pro SP3 32x
LeoHazard OS X 10.6.2

Simon_WM said:
Have you thought bout havein it Virutalised ?
i got:
Base OS: Windows 7 Ultmaite SP1
__ Virtual Machines
Linux Ubuntu 10.10 32x
Linux Mint 10 32x
Windows XP Pro SP3 32x
LeoHazard OS X 10.6.2
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Had you installed these on Dell Inspiron Duo?
Is it a little bit slower to run virtual machines on this tablet PC (even it's a duo core netbook)?
The Android 2.2 still need to be installed on a separate partition/boot to become a faster touch screen tablet. feasible?

Why has this thread died? i would love to know. its my dealbreaker between getting a xoom and an inspiron duo

Simon_WM how did u install xp in inspiron duo? where did u find the sata drivers etc?
thank u.

kisaras...
he installed it on a virtual PC ( summit like VMware) and he didnt specify if he done it on a duo

has it been done yet
android on dell duo.. has it been done? is the performance better than windows? anyone with a hands on video of performance?
thinking of getting it instead of tablet.. is it worth?

I goggled some info on the duo cause I liked the way it looked n happen to like dell.. the only thing I found I dent like on it was dells "stand" it is super super slow. Utube it and you'll see. Wish it was faster and ran full android other then that I was happy with the specs n price.. Toshiba at100 or the 200 is what I think I might move to cause of dells slow movements
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Its possible
For me I have the same material (Ispiron Duo)
I M running windows8, Ubuntu 10.10 updated and I m looking to add Android
The Android I have test are 2.2 sparta (Works Fine) and the honeycomb 3.2 (Touchscreen seems to not works properly)
to do this you have to install first Windows an d after android WITHOUT Grub and after that you install UBUNTU
if Grug2 or Grub from ubuntu does not detect Android so look for the partition number for android and customise grub config manually according to thi web site
h t t p : //pundiramit.blogspot.com/2011/08/dual-booting-android-x86-and-ubuntu.html
good luck
(I m tring this at this time)

How did this go, i'm thinking about getting the duo for this reason too. I wish there was more people working on it. I really want to know how the quality is!

I know this post is a little late but I am running ICS on the Duo and it is working really well. I have the RC1 release of the 4.0 tegra port from the android-x86 project.
I am currently dual booting with the Win8 customer preview but I find that I don't go into Win 8 at all any more.

hi, I hope that someone is stil here....i've just buy this dell so I install Win 8.1 and I need/want to install android too....i've found a few things on google search, but not very useful..can someone indicate me a tutorial to follow?!

Hi,
Please post in out dedicated computer thread seen here http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1765837
This thread will have to be closed.

what is the most populat os out there?

let me see your opinion on the mac vs PC vs Linux war!

pc because many companies use them and i predict mac in the future for security. linux is more for advanced users so less popular but with android it may rise in popularity...

Like Airfaire says.
I use iMac (desktop computer) and dualboot Win7 and Ubuntu on my laptop.

What is this pc os.where can I download? I use windows I hear its the most popular. PC stands for personal computer it is not an os.
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I loved opensolaris. But that's pretty much dead now....
Freebsd is pretty nice
But I think Linux is the best os ever!
Windows.... go die

Triple boot: Mac, Win7 and Ubuntu 11.04 on pc
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Dual boot: Win7 and Ubuntu 10.10.
VmWare: MSDOS 6, Win1.1, Win95, WinXP, Mac OSX, and im trying to get the x86 port of Android going... I cant get it to work
My favourite? Ubuntu for sure.
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Not sure how do you measure populat by knowing which OS we use...
Daily: Windows 7 64-bit
Just for the geek cred: Linux, when I just need the browser.

microsoft own most of the os market share

Just get all of them!
Windows 7, Ubuntu 11?, Mac OS X, Android x86.
Mess around with them and use the one you find the best.

Windows is a best OS ever

jackhooper said:
Windows is a best OS ever
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XP Pro more specifically. Vista Sucks.

Dualboot Windows XP and Windows 7.
Smartphone Android

I use everything on my lap top. Windows, ubuntu, android honeycomb, android 2.3
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I dual boot Win 7/Ubuntu. Never have been a big fan of macs.

Vista sucks.

Use Win7 32bit as my daily driver. I boot Knoppix DVD when I have time to try and improve my knowledge of Linux. Been using computers ever since the 8 bit days. Never used a Mac.

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Windows 7 on the Touchpad?

Any chance of or anyone know how to put win 7 onto my touchpad? I think it would make a great candidate for it.

Not possible natively as W7 doesn't offer an ARM port, unlike W8, which will. Now W7 via an emulator, that is another story.

As tbaker wrote you -
different architecture -
Mac OS & Windows uses x86/x86-64.
Android & iOS uses ARM.
Windows 8 will be also compiled against ARM.
TouchPad is Snapdragon ARM based.
Another thing to keep in mind is how much source is available.
Android is Open-Source from ground so usually once drivers are being written you can get it up & running to some extent.
Not the same with other platforms (Eg. W7 & iOS on Android devices)

tbaker077 said:
Not possible natively as W7 doesn't offer an ARM port, unlike W8, which will. Now W7 via an emulator, that is another story.
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I bet that would run like a dead dog.

piiman said:
I bet that would run like a dead dog.
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I'd be far more interested in getting Windows 8 (beta/alpha?) on this thing

SynGamer said:
I'd be far more interested in getting Windows 8 (beta/alpha?) on this thing
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1229307

W7 would run like absolute garbage on it most likely.

Windows 7 isn't ARM compliant but Windows 7 Compact Embeded is.

oups no it's not.

Sorry, i reboot my brain :
- Windows Embedded Compact 7 can run on ARM, MIPS, x86
- Windows Embedded Standard 7 can run on x86 / x64 only.
- Windows Phone 7 can be an another option to run Windows on HP touchpad...
(WCE 7 legal demo : Low-risk business model
• Download a 180-day trial edition
of Windows Embedded Compact 7
• Create product demos and build real
proof-of-concept devices to show to
customers and only pay for licenses
when you ship)

I know dos-box already exists, you could probably do qemu under chrooted ubuntu... Windows 7 would probably work, you'd be on the VERY low side of usable ram (~700mb), and I can guarantee it would be so slow that it isn't worth using. A stripped version of XP... might be worth looking into.

Like that :
google "Microsoft shows off Windows Embedded Compact 7 (Windows CE 7) tablet with Metro-Like UI"

Interesting what will it take to get Windows 7 Compact installed on the TP?

More work than its worth.
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I think WP7 would run well on the pad.
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I wonder if Windows Phone 7.5 has the required drivers to run on the touchpad. Ram should be fine as most windows phones are running on 512mb ram

Yes sure, WP7 is based on Windows CE 7.

hyperfire21 said:
I wonder if Windows Phone 7.5 has the required drivers to run on the touchpad. Ram should be fine as most windows phones are running on 512mb ram
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I'm sure it does.
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Windows 7 on the Touchpad - possible or not?
Hey Guys!
As far as I remember...the Touchpad first was designed to be used with Windows 7 (wasn´t it?). After a while they distinguished between the slate and the touchpad...so is it possible, to get Windows 7 working on the Touchpad?

Not in a million years.
Windows 7 won't ever be ported to the ARM architecture.
Windows 8 is possible, but highly unlikely since the ARM version won't be available through retail channels.

To Linux Users: Which Distro Do You Recommend?

I'm looking into moving to linux. Main reason? I really don't like windows 8. Don't flame me, please, i tried living with it since the consumer preview came out, and i just really don't like it.
I have nothing against OSX, its a pretty good system, but i don't want to sell my soul to apple, and a mac is more than i can afford for the foreseeable future.
IMHO Windows 7 is the perfect system. Just saying.
I partitioned 20 Gb out of my HDD to try out windows 8 DP, have been dual booting up until this week, at which i formatted the partition and loaded ubuntu.
My initial reaction to ubuntu was not that great. I have nothing against the system but i'm not a fan of unity and IMHO the orange/purple color scheme is fugly. However i really liked the software center. I tried out Kubuntu today, much more appealing UI, but it kept throwing me off because it looks just like windows but you don't interact with it the same way. I wound up going back to my phone to check my email, it was that annoying. Not confusing just annoying.
I'm sure i could adjust to either fairly quickly but they're just not the best UIs, IMHO.
So, that brings me to what this is about: If you use an OS other than Windows or Mac, what is it and what do you use it/what do you like about it? and would you recommend it to others?

New with Linux? Then mint. If u have some experience then tu debian or arch
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Ubuntu with Gnome Shell.
Gnome Shell is also skinable, so you don't have to live with the fugly color scheme. You can check out some skins at DeviantArt here.
And while we're at it, take a look at this article over at Webupd8. It will guide you through everything after installing Ubuntu. Webupd8 is a really great site that posts great articles regarding apps and other tweaks, so keep an eye on it.
So, i clearly recommend Ubuntu, but if you're a veteran and not a noob in the linux world, then i recommend Arch. But it looks like you're a "noob", so i would go with Ubuntu.

I've been using Linux Mint and it's been very nice. Very stable desktop, a lot of applications in the software download thingie (name escapes me). There is exactly ONE method of installing the android sdk and it works the first time with no issues (unlike the 90 ubuntu ones where 80% of them are messed up or outdated).
Go mint, you won't be sorry.

mint is basically Ubuntu based right?
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I would go with Kubuntu, that's the KDE version off Ubuntu.

Ubuntu with Enlightment

Ubuntu. Just started using it two moths ago. Windows was starting to get really slow and buggy. Sometimes it took a minute to boot up completely, and sometimes it wouldn't open up Firefox or VLC. I had no viruses(at least not visible to firewalls)
Then I tried Ubuntu. I was suprised how darn fast it was. Everything work, boot-up is fast as lightning, it looks better than Windows etc.
Only problem is Terminal. You need to remember a lot of commands to handle your computer.
I really recommend trying Ubuntu. After all, it's free!
E: And yeah, try KDE desktop if you try any Linux distro. I really prefer it to Gnome or Unity!

ubuntu or DSL (DamnSmallLinux) if on old pc

Ubuntu if you're new to linux, otherwise Debian Wheezy with Gnome Shell

17 days to go till Ubuntu 12.04. I suggest you to try and wait for that.
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ubuntu. I have been using it for 5 years.

Ubuntu User right here. But Mint is also very nice.
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I use backtrack 5. I love it, I have it dual booting with win 7 64bit
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rockstarar said:
mint is basically Ubuntu based right?
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Ubuntu and Mint are both Debian based, I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Still the same old terminal commands lol.

Ubuntu 10.10 is the best for me.. most stable (I tried up to 11.10) and no ugly Unity

PoorCollegeGuy said:
Ubuntu and Mint are both Debian based, I believe (someone correct me if I'm wrong). Still the same old terminal commands lol.
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I looked it up after posting
mint is based off Ubuntu which is based off debian which is based off Linux. mint is a derivative of Ubuntu
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i use ubuntu 64 bits and works awesome!

For personal usage ubuntu, for server i like debian as most stable best (also it is easier because commands/paths from debian and ubuntu are quite identical )

I like SUSE
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