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[Q] what do i need to know about the hero before i ditch my moment?

so i have the infamous samsung moment. you wanna know what really sucks about it? i listened to grooveshark for 10 minutes today. 10 minutes! the battery was at 75% when i started. when i was done, it was at 50%! yes, ive flashed to stock, yes ive tried other roms, yes ive done it all. disabled JIT, had the barest rom ever, and i still cant get a good battery life. so im pretty much set on switching to a new phone. but i need to know what the downfalls of the hero are. is battery life horendous? does it get really hot when you leave it in your pocket? how functional are the 2.2 roms? how much can i optimize it? give me all the info possible, especially stuff about signal strength and battery life. and rooting too, how easy is that? it seems a little unnecassarily complicated on the moment... thanks

Skip the hero and get an epic or evo....or wait a few more weeks and see what else there is. Sprint has already forgotten about the hero.
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i have like no money. id love to get one of those, but i barely got the moment to begin with. im only 15 btw
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There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.

the hero is a nice device. the 4g devices arent worth the premium. data will never be worth what they charge even WITHOUT the ten dollar upcharge on the terribly bulky epic or the over sized evo. no sense getting a 'flagship' device because they change constantly. soon we'll have dual core procs on these phones and even then, consumers wont be happy.
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo

thesubliminaljuggalo said:
There's a few 1-click methods for rooting your Hero, so not complicated at all. Also, Hero battery life is pretty decent. Mine lasts all day and then some with moderate use. Other people get some ridiculous battery life out of their Heros with a combination of Decad3nce's kernels and Collin's battery tweak.
CM6 2.2 is more than fully functional I would say. The only problem I've ever had with it was the camera freezing and having to reboot my phone, but with the latest themed CM6 Roms (I.E. Redglass, Extremely Blue, etc), I've yet to have the same problem.
The only time my phone ever got hot was running Wireless Tether and pushing constant data through it for a few hours +.
One of the moderators on the Hero forums (impaler, I believe) has a link in his signature to a website that has about 6 or 7 radios that are compatible with the Hero and the signal strength that you'll receive amongst the radios will depend on your location, but flash these at your own risk as they have the possibility to turn your Hero into a shiny paperweight.
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wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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tailsthecat3 said:
get the hero, my stock rooted is faster/more responsive than my friends stock evo
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Your friend must have jacked up his evo because my wife has one and it blows my OC'ed hero out of the water (CM6.1). You especially notice the speed in the browser and the games that I download on it without permission.
I agree the $10 extra a month is hard to swallow. Just remember that 2 years is a long time to commit to an older phone.

Hero is a nice device. It is small and does not feel like a brick in your pocket. The battery life is not bad. I have not tried any battery tweaks, but with some minor tweaks, I can get anywhere between 18-24 hours on a full charge. The only time I have felt the phone get hot is while wireless tethering.
I got it new earlier this year and as time progressed, I was getting annoyed with some of it's shortcomings, due to the software provided by Sprint. It felt slow, could not utilize the SD card for apps and such. The last straw was when "The Powers" said they won't be giving the Hero any more Android updates...
So, I rooted it and put CM6 (stable). Since then, I have been feeling like a child with a whole new toy. It works amazing, plus no extra 4G surcharge... .

oh something else i thought of. i think the hero has multitouch, please confirm. does it also have flash player? if it doesnt have either, thats ok. the moment has neither
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yeah its got multi touch. it doesnt have full flash, officially anyway.

steve19137 said:
wow thats a good chunk of info. im pretty much set on getting one now. one more thing, it has to do with overclocking. i *could* overclock my moment to 1.06 ghz, but if i can kill this with 40 minutes of music, thats not gonna happen anytime soon. i know that many hero roms, by default, overclock to 700something, quite a bit up from the measily 560ish that is stock. with either a replacement battery or one of those battery hacks you mentioned (or both ), would it balance out the power needed to run the processor faster? and make it run for 8-10 hours while im at school all day? thanks for all the good feedback guys. now i just need to find someone selling one thats not too scuffed up
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What the battery tweak does is clock your CPU based on certain variables. You can set it's max and minimum limits whilest the phone is running on battery/USB power/AC power. Also, you can change it so it reduces the max CPU usage when the battery is below a certain percentage, as to suck the most time out of your battery.
I have my tweak settings maxed out at 729 mhz for any given variable and a min 176 mhz. My phone lasts all day and then some, for sure. I woke up with it at 75% (put it in airplane mode for the night because I was too lazy to find the charger) and currently it's at 55% after 8 1/2 hours of moderate use.
Results may vary, of course.
edit: I carry around an extra charged battery just in case. There's a Taiwanese vendor on eBay selling 2 spare batters + a wall charger (charges your external batteries without needing your phone with the option of USB charging as well) -- all for $12 or something. Definitely worth it and I think there's a post in the accessories forum with the link to it. Not sure if it died by now or not.
Good luck!

thanks for all this info guys! im cant wait to be able to get one of these things for myself!!! the hard part is the ebay bidding. i already lost 2 auctions that i was aiming for, trying for another one tonight, then done for the day. anywhere else that i might look to get an unlocked hero besides craigslist? i wont buy off there, no way.
EDIT: i finally won a hero off ebay!!! i got it for $110. i think thats a pretty good deal! but i was thinking about the rooting process, and i like the idea of a one click root, but i need a little more info. does the one click root install a recovery also? if it doesnt, is it possible that ROM Manager works with the Hero, and i can install clockwork recovery? i really appreciate all your info guys. thanks a bunch

im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.

steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything im looking for the one click root that was spoke of earlier in the thread. can someone link me to it?
also, is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
EDIT: wait a second... does http://unrevoked.com/original/ really work? can someone confirm this for me?
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The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.

steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!

steve19137 said:
im starting to feel really bad because im bumping this thread quite a bit, but i have so many questions, and my searches arent showing anything is there a way for me to bring a backup of the /data partition on my moment over to my hero? in the moments recovery, there is an option to backup the /data partition to a .tar or some sort of archive. is it possible that i could take that to the hero, load it, then create a simple nandroid backup? because i hate having to reload all my apps and preferences. thanks for all the help guys, i really REALLY do appreciate it.
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Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png

thesubliminaljuggalo said:
The unrevoked method really works, yes.
Personally, I used http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=803682 on my girlfriend's Hero, but I'm not sure about the Recovery, after trying a few different rooting methods, the Recovery just appeared after rebooting, so I'm not sure which one did it.
The method I used to root my Hero is long outdated and was used for Android 1.5 Heros, so no help there.
About the /data backup on your Palm, I highly doubt it. Not natively compatible for sure.
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its not a palm... its a samsung moment that would quite peculiar if i tried to bring a webos backup to android... but i probably will start over. i have a bunch of crap on my phone anyhow. it would be a good thing.
winter128 said:
Here's a great site for you....should have everything you need plus a garbage load more.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/wiki/index.php?title=File:Hero_CDMA.png
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oh boy! thats alot of stuff! thanks alot for that! i didnt know xda had a wiki... but then again, sdx has one too, so i should have known.
winter128 said:
Just start fresh on the hero. Put unrevoked on your hero(if you have firmware 2.27.651.5..... if it ends in .6 or .7 you will have to find the .5 somewhere and downgrade first, it's simple)
After using unrevoked, download Rom Manager from the market and flash clockworkmod recovery. Nandroid backup and then you can start flashing different ROMs.... I love the Cyanogenmod 2.2 builds....have fun!!!!!
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yep, i read about the OTA updates to block the rooting. but take a look at this (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=753910). this implies that you can root the .6 OTA. is that a typo, or legit? the wiki link above also says that .6 is rootable. i know how to downgrade if necessary, though. as far as the unrevoked rooting, i was right then! unrevoked then rom manager will do the trick? awesome thats way easy. and i know that i change recoveries within rom manager... i think im set guys! thanks alot for all your help. ill be sitting on that wiki link for a while. im gonna read all i can before my hero comes im super duper excited!!! and i will have fun!!! i plan on flashing CM6 anyhow

.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.

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.6 and .7 are both rootable, no need to downgrade.
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how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?

steve19137 said:
how do i root .7 if thats what my phone comes with? will unrevoked do .5 .6 and .7?
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In the Development section, check for the Easy Root thread. Takes about 3 minutes.

[Q] Simple answers for prospective buyers

So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb and Instead of having to sort through tons of threads I think a single one would be nice for those also thinking about jumping in.
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate
Battery life compared to phone?
Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone?
Video? Sound? etc
I know these questions have been answered somewhere, but having a single thread dedicated to answering questions for users looking to jump in with the Nook Color hacking would be nice, IMHO.
Thanks for all the help.

Bump
Anyone who has done this how is it related to your android phone if you have one. I'm really interested in this but if it will feel like a step back from the phones i don't know if it's worth it?

I have a Droid X and the nook running CM7.
Right now the nook is very comparable to the X. With the beta rom it is still a little chopy but web browsing is so much better on the bigger and higher resolution screen. I don't boot up my computer as much for casual web browsing as much as I use to. It is nice being able to browse anywhere in my house(I'm writing this while cooking dinner) , or while watching TV.
Apps are still hit or miss on CM7 right now (Pandora doesn't work) and I'm not much of a gamer so I'll leave that to others.

Thanks so much I'm pretty excited to try this out. Hopefully it is as good as I think it can be. I know it won't be a xoom. But it should be sweet.

I have an HTC Incredible which should be similarly performing to the Captivate.
The DINC has the worst battery life of any Android phone I've seen so that's not maybe the best comparison, but I use my nook several hours a day and manage several days between charges. I think battery life is impressive.
Out of the box, the speed is noticeably slower, but not that bad. Running an OC'd 1100mhz kernel I get a much higher quadrant score (around 1150) than my stock DINC. The NC's improvement is significant.
I haven't installed a different ROM since I'm waiting for a daily driver stable honeycomb. That beings said, I have absolutely zeros problems using my NC daily as a tablet. I find it much easier than the smaller screen on my phone. Nor have I encountered anything I wanted to do that didn't work almost perfectly.
Video is a bit more pixelated than I'd like but I haven't spent a lot of time looking into it. Sound is pretty good, and the built in speaker is better than expected. I have heard of issues with the headphone jack.
All in all it's a great investment of $250. You could get a more fully featured tablet for the price of three NC's. I don't think the additional features are worth the cost difference, especially when you add in the amazing work done by the xda Devs.
jlt220 said:
So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb...
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate.
Battery life compared to phone? Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone? Video? Sound? etc
Thanks for all the help.
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DeadStiff said:
I don't boot up my computer as much for casual web browsing as much as I use to.
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+1
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I used to spend a couple of hours every evening sitting at my desktop PC browsing the net and reading forums. In the couple of weeks since getting and rooting the NC, I think I've fired up my PC four times. Now I do my nightly surfing from the couch next to my wife while she watches TV and she feels much less neglected. ;-)

Ars Technica wrote a nice feature article today that should answer all your questions.
http://arstechnica.com/gadgets/guides/2011/02/howto-root-a-nook-color-to-transform-it-into-an-android-tablet.ars

Thanks for the responses this is helpful
I'm planing on using this as an ebook reader some just because the screen size would be nicer than my phone, but also like you said web, stuff like that. Keep the personal experiences coming they are very helpful for us who are hesitant to join in.

The nook is not perfect but its impossible to beat for the price. As other have said I fire up my computer far less than before. I have an evo and I would say that the NC feels as snappy and maybe even snappier. The thing I can tell you is that I was a for sure for the Xoom but the NC and all of its hacks help me to make the decision that I can wait. 100% happy with the Nook and I think most anyone else would be also.

jlt220 said:
So I am considering buying the Nook Color for use with an Android ROM ideally honeycomb and Instead of having to sort through tons of threads I think a single one would be nice for those also thinking about jumping in.
Most of these will be in reference to android phones and relating the experience since that's all I have to go off.
I have a SGS Captivate
Battery life compared to phone?
Usability? Speed, what is working what isn't? Does it feel like a step back when coming from a high end smart phone?
Video? Sound? etc
I know these questions have been answered somewhere, but having a single thread dedicated to answering questions for users looking to jump in with the Nook Color hacking would be nice, IMHO.
Thanks for all the help.
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I also have a captivate since release day (and got the pleasure of gettint a new one in December due to random shutdowns) and I can say the battery life on the nook is way better than any sgs rom even the stock eclair. I also don't browse on my phone anywhere near as much as I used to. The nook color doesn't have the most features, the fastest cpu, or even the best screen but for the price it blows everything else away hands down. Honestly its one of the few "toys" I've gotten in a while that I haven't had an ounce of buyers remorse with
Sent from my Nook Color.

I love my honeycomb. Its really fast and it has only minor issues. Mine is 100% reliable and i use it everyday and i only use my laptop for downloading roms and/or flashing sd cards. I have a rooted rom'd and oc'd droid 1 at 1300mhz and while i love my droid, i hardly use it anymore.
I really recommend it and emmc honeycomb is awesome. The lack of gps is the biggest thing for me, but o well... my rooted droid has one so its fine for me.
Sent from one of those missing Droids

Would you suggest a rooted Nook for a luddite?

I've been looking at posts regarding the Nook Color but there are still some details I can't quite work out.
My father has asked me to buy him a Nook Color and root it. (How often does a 71 year old luddite ask you to root something?) He primarily wants to use it as an eReader while on vacation, but he is keen to also have access to the Android market and his email. I've got him using TuneIn and NPR on his phone.
However I don't want to get it for him if the Nook Color is slow or buggy. After all, I'll be doing all the maintenance and we don't live anywhere near each other. Can anyone answer some questions to help me out?
- How responsive is it running the rooted stock with something like LauncherPro, or Nookie Froyo or CM7? Are screen taps recognized most of the time and do apps trod or fly?
- Do apps crash much? There are posts talking about instability in all the non-standard ROMs and different launchers, but not many posts about the stability people have. Do they work well enough for a non-techie to use?
- Any reasons why he shouldn't use a Nook? I don't want to set it up for him and then spend all my time answering questions. He knows Android well enough as he has a Droid 2.
- Any other relevant questions you think I'm missing?
Any info is appreciated. Thanks!

More experienced users could answer your questions better than I could. I'm just wondering what a luddite is.

I would think that once you have it set up for him if you had rooted it as 2.1 it would be fine, until the B&N 2.2 upgrade. Mine is not buggy nor crash-y. But you'd have to re-set him up after the upgrade.
I use 2.1 rooted, but have played around with froyo and CM7. I like that 2.1 maintains all of the barnes and noble functionality so I can buy and read books with the B&N interface just like stock. I can read magazines, etc.
I have a ton of apps and none crash, no tap lag but the corners of the screen are notoriously un-responsive. In fact I have had no issues with 2.1 rooted whatsoever and would never have known that this is not how it came out of the box.
No flash on 2.1 if that is an issue, but if he has a droid phone I wouldn't really call him a luddite. My MIL can't use a mouse or manage her digital camera- THAT is a luddite.
My biggest gripe is battery life and that is just crap. I have to keep turn wifi on and off when I want it to get more than a days worth of light use out of it. And even doing that I have to fully charge it every other day. That has been kind of an issue with me as this is a hybrid device, so I want it as a e-reader in bed and an android wifi device all day, so the only way for it to work for me is if I charge it on my bedstand everynight.

Stock root for now. When the update hits, he may well be happy with that. Sounds like there will be more app access then.
The touchscreen should be fine for him, as good or better than my Eris.
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SoFresh99 said:
I would think that once you have it set up for him if you had rooted it as 2.1 it would be fine, until the B&N 2.2 upgrade.
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This is the only thing I'd worry about. When the 2.2 update comes out you'll likely need physical access to the device to re-root it (assuming the 2.2 update doesn't create other issues oin rooted NC's).

I have no stability or performance issues with CM7 + Launcher Pro. The stock kernal even supports moderate overclocking (about 15%), if desired.
The corners are not quite as sensitive to touch as the rest of the screen, but I certainly wouldn't rate it as unresponsive... It's fairly uncommon that mine doesn't register the first touch there.
One issue, depending on his vision, may be the small font sizes at the default pixel density settings. This can be remedied by increasing the value, but altering it can break some apps, causing them to render incorrectly.
You may want to wait for a non-development build of CM7 to arrive, however, as improvements are still appearing at a rapid pace.

boborone said:
More experienced users could answer your questions better than I could. I'm just wondering what a luddite is.
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I'm so glad someone else had the same first though! I looked it up on wikipedia:
"In modern usage, "Luddite" is a term describing those opposed to industrialisation, automation, computerisation or new technologies in general."
Sounds like a lot of people I know.....

A tongue in cheek reply!!
Since I am a 78 year old former luddite, I feel qualified to offer some advice. I rooted my nook the first day I had it but became addicted and tried most every ROM available on this site. I really like CM7 but it still requires a bit of fiddling and it does seem very slow compared to the rooted stock. I,ve gone back to the rooted stock 2.1 for a number of reasons. First, I've got the Kindle app and most of my on-time is spent reading either BN or Kindle books. I do check for the grandkids e-mails a couple of times a day and that's about it. I have a basket full of 2GB microSDs with photos, audible books, etc, etc, and like the ease of changing to whatever I want. For my usage, the rooted stock is probably the best alternative. Of course I do have my andromeda 1.2 based Captivate for everything else I want to do. I don't think anyone knows for sure what will happen when (or if) B&N really does provide an OTA upgrade to 2.2. Maybe a rooted stock won't upgrade and if it does it may have to be rerooted. I still have CM7 on a micro SD just in case. By the way, I had three semesters of computerese in 1971--1974 while working on my PhD and my first computer was an instant hernia producing 40 pound "portable". To me it sounds like your dad would get along just fine if you'll just root it and introduce him to this marvelous website with it's great devs.
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Without question all '-ites' should get Nook Colors...
Troglodites, Mennonites, Frenchites, Americanites and of course my Luddite brothers and sisters as well...
But seriously, I told a newb friend of mine, who is very interested in Android, to get one and play with it. Many, many others and I all learned by playing around and making tons of mistakes and asking questions of others. Hands on is the way to go.
note: Google/search XDA with any questions before posting; otherwise you'll get scarcastic responses that won't be polite.
Good luck m8!

I'm using the NC with 2.1 and absolutely love it. I have a lot of apps. love the B&N features, love the whole android experience I can get on the NC.
I'm a 52 year old grandma who has found a fun hobby learning to root her NC and load android on her HD2 phone. I figure if I can learn to do it, anyone can!
LauncherPro Plus is my launcher of choice. I have tried ADW and Zeam. I like the scrollable widgets, facebook widget and the many home screens with LP. LP works great on my NC.
I use my NC for staying organized (calendar, contacts and email - all synced to my google account), listening to podcasts (podtrapper), listening to audio books (Audible and local library), listening to favorite music (pro amp), keeping up with the news & blogs (pulse news reader, news and weather widget), facebook (launcherpro widgets), reading books and magazines (Nook and Kindle apps), crossword puzzles (shortyz + NC native), playing games, keeping cute pics of the grandkids to show off, lots of educational apps to play with the grandkids, etc. etc. How did I live without one ????
My screen gets buggy once in awhile, but it's usually after playing Angry Birds or something that is heavy on using resources. But I rarely get any force closes. You Tube does go wonky once in awhile, and I have had to clear cache once on my gmail, but install Titanuium Backup and walk him thru clearing the cache. Works. Every time.
My battery life is what I would call decent. A couple of days - depending on what I am doing. Even with wi-fi running in the background. I have never had a problem getting wi-fi to stay conncected. Battery lasts a lot longer on my NC than on my HD2 running android.
I walked my daughter thru the rooting process over the phone when she got her own NC. She not a 'techie' in any sense of the word. This was about 3 months ago and she hasn't had any problems with her NC and now she is another NC/Android convert.
All this boils down to my saying that I really think your 72 yo 'luddite' would really like the NC. And I think the NC should 'behave itself' enough for him to get good use out of it.

is it really reliable?

Hi,
I know that i am asking this in a Nook forum, but i'll ask as XDA users are always very true on their opinions.
I went some pages back of the forum, and i realised that many people have problems with the Nook.
So let's say a very good friend is interested in buying the Nook. Would you reccomend it to them?
Thanks
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All the problems I've had with the Nook are related to custom roms and such, and even then, if you stick with, say, CM7 stable, the only real problem is the battery life since it doesn't fully sleep.
I don't think the stock rom really has many issues.

EnTg888 said:
All the problems I've had with the Nook are related to custom roms and such, and even then, if you stick with, say, CM7 stable, the only real problem is the battery life since it doesn't fully sleep.
I don't think the stock rom really has many issues.
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What he said... Custom roms are really the only place software errors pop up, even then... Each rom's creator is working each to day to improve it.
If you stay on stock, I doubt you'll have any problems.
Would I recommend it to a friend? Sure, but most of them are apple fanboys and wouldn't even give it a chance.

I would recommend the nook without hesitation. The problems most people seem to encounter are with b&n's quality control in regards to things like lcd bleed and dead pixels. I was fortunate enough to get a good one on my first go, but some people had to return it a few times before they got a decent one. Beyond that, I think as long as one reads before jumping into something like rooting and flashing roms, the nook gives you one heck of a bang for your buck.
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I had absolutely no problems with something as simple as rooted stock, though I wasn't entirely happy with the B&N interface when it wasn't the reason why I bought the Nook. Yes, you'll probably spend a few hours (4-8) just learning what's going on and all the terminology, trolling around on the forums and getting the hang of things...
But honestly if you stick with a popular custom ROM like Phiremod, a CM7 Nook is just as stable as the real thing. The biggest downside right now is the battery drain while sleeping. And even that is not too big a deal; it's better than your phone for sure, and you just gotta charge it once every two days. So it doesn't have the 15+ day stand-by that the iPad would, whatever.

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Would I recommend it to a friend? Sure, but most of them are apple fanboys and wouldn't even give it a chance.
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sounds like you need better friends
Also, I would and do recommend it to my friends.

Assuming you want to either leave it stock or are ok with tinkering and use CM7 then yes. If you are expecting an ipad then get an ipad so we don't get another "why doesn't this work like an ipad thread."

I have a rooted Motorola Milestone, and i was using for several months CM roms, but for the last 2 months i am in MIUI...
Thus i dont think i will have many problems with modding it.
How long does it need to power on? In order to understand if is worth shutting it down, instead of standby...
I thought that CM, fixed the issue with devices not sleeping? At the beginning the solution was to restart the phone after a charge...
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It takes 1-2 minutes for my cm7 nook to go from off to booted and usable. The sleep issue isjust a nook problem, cm7 sleeps fine on everything else. I loose about 20- 25% of the battery over 12 hours or so when I'm not using the nook. For me, that's not a big deal.
The only problem I have ever noticed with my nook is wifi disconnect when the screen has been off for a long time. All I have to do is go into wifi settings(I have a shortcut on my home) and it reconnects to the network. Although after flashing cm7 nightly 54 and the latest 4/23 test kernal I don't think I've had it disconnect.
Nook setup:
CM7 nightly 54
dalgrins OC 4/23 test kernel @ 1.3 ghz with interactive governer
Mad-murdocks honeycomb theme
I absolutely love my nook! Very fast and very responsive.

Ok great thanks.
How long is its battery life with moderate use with CM7?
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I consider myself a heavy user and mine lasts 1 1/2-2 days before recharging.

Fekish said:
Ok great thanks.
How long is its battery life with moderate use with CM7?
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it will last probably a day and a half, maybe longer.

4-5 hours of use with cm7, 5-6 with stock rooted
(hours of use are total time using it not counting breaks in between use periods)

NewZJ said:
4-5 hours of use with cm7, 5-6 with stock rooted
(hours of use are total time using it not counting breaks in between use periods)
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This is pretty close if you're playing games all day... The only difference in this case with CM7 and Stock is the overclock kernel, otherwise you should get the same battery life.
Keep in mind turning things like wifi and lowering the display can increase battery life.
I usually get through an 8-9 hour day easily with moderate use (books, games, web browsing, manga, no video though).

If you're using it for Reading and surfing the Web nonstop, I've gotten close to 7 hours on CM7(more with WiFi off) and close to 8 on the Clean Froyo ROM(which sleeps properly). I don't have my Kernal OverClocked.
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Thanks guys,
a friend recommended the Dropad A8 and Herotab C8, and now i am considering them instead of the Nook...
It would be around 70$ cheaper

Fekish said:
Thanks guys,
a friend recommended the Dropad A8 and Herotab C8, and now i am considering them instead of the Nook...
It would be around 70$ cheaper
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I don't know anything about those tabs so I can't say anything negative or positive about them. However, the only thing that I would tell you to look out for is to see how much dev. support those two have. Paying slightly more for a heavily developer supported device (as the NC is) is an extremely wise investment.

I get a full day of use on mine. Love my nook. the geek factor of running cm7 on a nook is worth it to me lol. bluetooth kinda blows sometimes but its getting better as devs beast on it. also charging must be done with the stock charger "to reach full charging speed" due to some voltage change on original cord to allow more output. but for transferring any cord works great. And the devs are some of the best!

Drachen808 said:
I don't know anything about those tabs so I can't say anything negative or positive about them. However, the only thing that I would tell you to look out for is to see how much dev. support those two have. Paying slightly more for a heavily developer supported device (as the NC is) is an extremely wise investment.
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Truth. I would avoid anything that does not have a project like CM aimed at it. It does not have to be CM but it should be at least as active.

Two points:
1) The Nook will charge with other chargers and a standard cable jsut at 1/4 the speed as charging from an unknown source which is governed at 500ma while the stock charger is 2000ma.
2) Before buying either of the other tabs, check their screen resolution. I don't know much about them but the screen is the expensive part and what makes the Nook the best deal out there.
I regularly recommend my NC to anyone that will listen. Just converted a potential ixxx customer today as he likes to play with his toys in ways other than intended by the manufacturer. As stated above the dev support for the NC is spectacular.

[Q] Getting an IS tomorrow or on monday...

But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )

Splux said:
But, where should I start?
Is it really necessery to flash a custom ROM, or is this phone snappy enough with Sense (but I'll probably use GoLauncher or LauncherPro, I only use 1 homescreen...)?
Which tweaks are really necessery to make the phone's battery survive for more than 24 hours, when texting pretty much?
Perhaps the phone's battery survives even though I text a lot (between 100-500 texts/day, depending on how bored I am)?
How's the vibrator in this phone, can I have it in silent mode and have it in my pocket and actually notice when I get a text?
My current phone's vibrator is pretty crappy.
I've been browsing this forum for some time now but haven't found anything that answers my questions... I come from an Acer Liquid A1, without CM7 or MIUI that phone is probably one of the worst phones ever done. But, I sure hope this community is just as active as the one the Liquid had, and still have
(lol, "is this a question?" eh, it's many questions... )
oh, and one more thing; is this device brickable? or can you always reset it to default, like with the liquid? if something f...s up you can always boot into bootloader and reflash a *.bin
Help a newbie to get started, and flashing things and stuff is nothing new. Only the way to root it is new for me... :/
Regards,
Me
(hopefully I haven't missed a thread that answers all my questions, but of what I've found I haven't found anything that actually helps me. if I've missed it, just link to it and remove this thread )
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I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.

You should easily get 24 + hours if all you do is text mainly. Just remember to turn data off. It will help make your battery last longer.
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sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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Well, my current phone dies pretty quickly when texting a lot. Today it went from 60% down to 5%, and I woke for 11hours ago and have been texting ppl since then.
And I'm buying a new phone since my 4 touch-buttons on this one is getting really weird, they only work sometimes and yesterday they all died so I was stuck in a conversation and had to reboot to get out of it.
And sending texts and stuff is what I mainly do, of course I browse the Internet, play games and everything. During school and such I only text people, and a lot. So I pretty much needs the phone to make more than 24hours without charging it, even though I text a lot and listen to music.
@NardVa;
Won't be a problem. Already thought of that
Thanks for the replies

sdxda said:
I don't think you need a custom ROM. See if the battery is good enough for your needs. Remember to drain the battery completely multiple times to "train" it.
On another note, why get such an expensive phone, just for texting? It's going to drain a lot of battery while you are looking at the screen. Might as well go for a feature phone imo.
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I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing

swatsor said:
I was going to suggest flashing, the stock rom is garbage for battery life. Android Revolution HD seems to be one of the more popular choices, but of course Cyanogen Mod is there if you decide the Sense UI isn't your thing
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I've made up my mind now, I'll use the official GB ROM for a couple of days/weeks/months (basically untill I'm tired of Sense 2.1) and then flash a Sense 3.0 ROM and hopefully I can understand which one of all those RUU's that's made for Europe too when I'm bored of Sense 2.1
You don't happen to know how it is with bricking this phone? Can you always reset it to stock, or can you actually brick it for real so it's 100% unusable?