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My N1 is rooted running CyanogenMOD 5.0.7.1, color trackball alerts, the Desire Camera, Helix Launcher, etc... basically all the goodies. I know a lot of people in my situation went back to stock and flashed the pre-release Froyo. My question is why? I watched the Google I/O conference and yeah, Froyo looks great, but it doesn't seem like there's anything (other than Flash) that Froyo can do that all these custom ROM's out there can't. Is there something in Froyo I'm missing that I can't get in these custom ROM's? I'm thinking about just waiting until Cyanogen comes out with his own custom Froyo ROM....
I think it's the google apps that are different. they look good and work better. for me the Froyo didn't had the bugs that where in eclair. Btw the live wallpapers work better on froyo.
Mainly - Flash, JIT and a speedier browser. Nothing that can't wait for a month.
Browser speed is enough for me, since that's what I use most on my phone.
- JIT
- Flash
- Chrome to Phone
- Install to SD (without having to deal with creating the SD partitions)
- Froyo Radio is more stable/reliable (from my own experiences anyway)
I'm also using pershoot's .34 kernel and LauncherPro and the overall "experience" is excellent.
Way better than CM5.0.7.x? No, but it was enough for me to jump on the bandwagon.
i'm the opposite kinda, i am using cm 507 and WANT to try out froyo, but not sure if its gonna be worth it cause A) i dont wannt burn in my screen any worse with that horrible white notification bar, and B) not sure about the new radio update (is it better or worse?).
i'm the opposite kinda, i am using cm 507 and WANT to try out froyo, but not sure if its gonna be worth it cause A) i dont wannt burn in my screen any worse with that horrible white notification bar, and B) not sure about the new radio update (is it better or worse?).
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A burn isnt because froyo. It isnt even a burn it isnt annoying me. I even can barely see it. I have my nexus almost 4 months and always used white bar and the burn is almost invisible i had to lool closely to see it
B for me the new radio is way better have more bars. The 3g speed at home has improved. So i am happy with it
You can try froyo if you dont like it go back to cm.
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commodoor said:
A burn isnt because froyo. It isnt even a burn it isnt annoying me. I even can barely see it.
B for me the new radio is way better have more bars. The 3g speed at home has improved. So i am happy with it
You can try froyo if you dont like it go back to cm.
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the burn in i'm talking about is when using the standard white notification bar. this has been permanently burning in your screen and many people have it including me. since froyo cant truly change the notification bar color, using froyo will continue to worsen your screen using that horrid white notification bar. this is why i'm hesitant on switching.
about the new radio, i've read both good and bad. some people love it, and others hate it. so i dont know which to believe until i try it myself. again, this is the reason i havent yet jumped at froyo. of course i could always switch back if i dont like it. but laziness....
Bluetooth implementation is better in Froyo with my headset at least. For that alone I won't go back
If you're worried about burn in, the latest version of launcherpro lets you hide the notification bar.
I'm currently using it, my notification bar is hidden, and I'm on completely stock 2.1 unrooted rom.
I was happily running CM5.0.7.1 and decided to try FroYo. I found that the benefits were no where near enough to outweigh the excellent features I was missing from CM (not least the themes).
In the end I decided to go back (although in the process managed to brick my phone in a new and never-before-seen way but thats another story!)
In any case, the FroYo that is about turned out to be a non-final version that was pushed out by mistake. Google has since withdrawn it.
My advice is to just wait until the FroYo code is in AOSP and Cyanogen releases a CM6 branch based on it.
CM6(when it appears)>rooted 2.2>CM5.0.7>2.1 Which is why I'm using 2.2
rsm86 said:
If you're worried about burn in, the latest version of launcherpro lets you hide the notification bar.
I'm currently using it, my notification bar is hidden, and I'm on completely stock 2.1 unrooted rom.
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i wonder if it works on froyo. so does it hide the notification bar all the time, or only on certain screens? how do you pull down the notification shade?
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i wonder if it works on froyo. so does it hide the notification bar all the time, or only on certain screens? how do you pull down the notification shade?
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Works on froyo. Only hides the notification bar when you are on homescreens. To bring it down you just hit the menu button, and it'll show.
Namuna said:
- JIT
- Flash
- Chrome to Phone
- Install to SD (without having to deal with creating the SD partitions)
- Froyo Radio is more stable/reliable (from my own experiences anyway)
I'm also using pershoot's .34 kernel and LauncherPro and the overall "experience" is excellent.
Way better than CM5.0.7.x? No, but it was enough for me to jump on the bandwagon.
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I agree with you. It all depends on what you use your phone for. The things named up above is what matters most to me. Little customizations like themes. I have apps that are taking advantage of jit, there is no way I'm going back to cyanogen until next release. If apps2sd didn't work then I would go back but even that works
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I upgraded from CM5.0.6 to Froyo. I loved the JIT and the new Gmail app, but in the end it was a wee bit too unstable for me for daily use, so I went back to 5.0.6 and then upgraded to 5.0.7.
My Froyo has proven VERY stable for me.
I love the new Gmail app, now I can receive Gmail from my other account and stop having to forward everything.
JIT? man oh man, I love how my Nexus flies now!
It is noticeable faster than before!!
Apps2SD was never a concern for me, as I keep things to a minimum.
Will I go back to Cyanogen?
Nope.
But I will upgrade to a Cyanogen powered 2.2
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Works on froyo. Only hides the notification bar when you are on homescreens. To bring it down you just hit the menu button, and it'll show.
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yeah i finally tried it out. and i finally updated to froyo too tonight.
Is there a way to use something other than the numeric keypad to lock the screen of the Nook Color? I'd really like something along the lines of the "pattern" lock I've seen on a Moto Droid.
Pattern lock/unlock on rooted N.C.?
yes i would also like this. Anybody know of it, i also checked about this while reading about the nook honeycomb but didn't see the option/ the app.
Think McFly, Think, You think Griff just calls me grandpa for his health!?
As far as I know it's a Froyo feature, not sure if you can add it to Eclair easily. Nookie Froyo has this built in, and it works well.
just found this. I logged into my market account from my desktop, selected an app and its downloading to my device directly.
Android strikes again!
edit: Also has full list of all my previous downloaded Apks...
No dice here....my device does not show up on the android web market.
Yeah, that's a really nice feature. I found both my phone AND my nook color. Naturally the nook color shows up as a Zoom2 but I guess the push feature may be limited to 2.2 and newer. So it may require at least Nookie Froyo for that. Or are you using rooted stock FW?
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No dice here....my device does not show up on the android web market.
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Ditto.... But some Nook owners have it?
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Yeah, that's a really nice feature. I found both my phone AND my nook color. Naturally the nook color shows up as a Zoom2 but I guess the push feature may be limited to 2.2 and newer. So it may require at least Nookie Froyo for that. Or are you using rooted stock FW?
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I have a feeling the device that is currently listed is my honeycomb sd card, not the B&N stock. It may require market 2.2.11......
Anybody get their Honeycomb NookColor to work with this?
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Push doesn't work for me on my DInc. I don't have my Nookie right now so I can't test it. I'm told that you have to open the Market app on your phone in order for the site to see your phone and push apps to it. Doesn't work with the custom rom I'm running though.
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Anybody get their Honeycomb NookColor to work with this?
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I am not sure it works, but my "Zoom2" does list as a valid device..
This must be something new. I see everything i downloaded since the end of December, on both my incredible and the nook... but nothing prior. ill test the push.
when i went to push i saw 2 devices something identified simply as "phone" and "Verizon HTC adr6300" not sure what phone is. possibly one of the froyo builds i ran?
i pushed the chase app to my incredible. by the time i finished editing this post. it was installed... pretty neat. i guess no nookie love right now. still a really cool find.
Edit again... lol interesting thing is whatever "phone" is it shows no make no model. and says the last time i used it was today.. which must be the nook.
I was able to download apps to both my NC and my Samsung Epic from the website. Curiously, they both showed up as "phone" so I wasn't able to tell them apart. Is there any way to register the name of the device on the website?
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I was able to download apps to both my NC and my Samsung Epic from the website. Curiously, they both showed up as "phone" so I wasn't able to tell them apart. Is there any way to register the name of the device on the website?
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ya click my market account/ then settings you can name your device.
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I was able to download apps to both my NC and my Samsung Epic from the website. Curiously, they both showed up as "phone" so I wasn't able to tell them apart. Is there any way to register the name of the device on the website?
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Click "Market Account" at the top,then settings. Your devices show up and you can edit them, including Naming them.
Edit: too slow
Very nice. Sometime it's easier to look for things on my computer than with the phone.
I checked it out. I still prefer AppBrain.
My NC shows up but only for the Honeycomb.
The rooted 2.1 that I use as my daily driver is not there. I'm guessing that it needs 2.2 or better.
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The rooted 2.1 that I use as my daily driver is not there. I'm guessing that it needs 2.2 or better.
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Actually, I am on 1.01 rooted (haven't updated to 1.1 yet) and it is able to see mine. I haven't really done anything special outside of rooting. I don't have CWR or any custom kernels yet - not sure if that makes a difference. Haven't even had a chance to play with Froyo yet.
My 1.1.0 rooted is there, and a test push worked fine (although, when you get the OTA is crapshoot I would think).
Hmmm. this whole thing seems to be a crapshoot.
My nookie froyo showed up, but when I tried to send something it said unsupported device.
Same thing for my fuze (winmo) running xdandroid 2.2.1. showed up, but unsupported so the whole thing is useless to me.
I wish it worked because there are so many things that don't show up in market on nookie froyo.
Oh well. Let the waiting continue for CM7!!
Works fine here. Nook Color, Mac Mini, USB cable connected in USB mode.
Nook Color and iTouch connected at the same time.
The box shows.
Phone
Phone
So I chose the top one and it works no problem.
I seem to like looking through the Market on my Mac better.
Fix Hidden Market Apps.
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Hmmm. this whole thing seems to be a crapshoot.
My nookie froyo showed up, but when I tried to send something it said unsupported device.
Same thing for my fuze (winmo) running xdandroid 2.2.1. showed up, but unsupported so the whole thing is useless to me.
I wish it worked because there are so many things that don't show up in market on nookie froyo.
Oh well. Let the waiting continue for CM7!!
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Follow the Build.prop Steps in the Nookie Froyo Tips Page on Nookdevs. It should make most Apps appear.
Alternatively, you can use a Third Party App Store like SlideMe.
Or Go Underground (PM me)
I recently picked up a nook to be my go to sidekick tablet but haven't decided which rom I should run with.
I like how nooter and honeycomb roms are naturally compatible with the buttons (or lack there of) on the nook. But at this point the honeycomb roms aren't really at a daily use stage for me (nor are they meant to be) and I have yet to actually run a nooter set up just because Iam a noob and Iam being lazy (I know, shame on me)
on the other hand I am comfortable and familiar with froyo from my phone but for that same reason the soft key button mapping is too awkward for me to get used to. If there is a way to fix the soft keys on the screen at all times that would be great. Any suggestions?
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I recently picked up a nook to be my go to sidekick tablet but haven't decided which rom I should run with.
I like how nooter and honeycomb roms are naturally compatible with the buttons (or lack there of) on the nook. But at this point the honeycomb roms aren't really at a daily use stage for me (nor are they meant to be) and I have yet to actually run a nooter set up just because Iam a noob and Iam being lazy (I know, shame on me)
on the other hand I am comfortable and familiar with froyo from my phone but for that same reason the soft key button mapping is too awkward for me to get used to. If there is a way to fix the soft keys on the screen at all times that would be great. Any suggestions?
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Honestly, I just ran into this issue. I tried to put the softkeys into the status bar but I found it too awkward. Have you considered remapping the Volume Buttons?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=956773&highlight=remapping+buttons
For me, I used Root Explorer and it was very simply.
I prefer an application called "Button Savior" in the Market over Softkeys. It leaves a tiny tab in the application you are running, you press it, and Back, Menu, Home, and others show up. I actually keep it on stock settings, since it is so easy to use.
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I prefer an application called "Button Savior" in the Market over Softkeys. It leaves a tiny tab in the application you are running, you press it, and Back, Menu, Home, and others show up. I actually keep it on stock settings, since it is so easy to use.
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I agree, Button Savior > Softkeys.
Yeah, I was actually aware of Button savior and have it on my phone. I definitely prefer it to Softkeys, if nothing else at least for the fact that the button is less intrusive and more aesthetically pleasing.
I am actually just about the install a froyo rom and try B.savior, dont know why i didnt before. I was probably just too overwhelmed with all the different Roms and eager to jump from one to the other.
I would like to try a 2.1 Nooter build but all the instructions and having to register the market by singing in to youtube have me putting it off.
Hi. After trying Honeystreak 2.0, I fell in love with the 120 screen density. However, I know since some people may not want to upgrade to Honeystreak for some reason or another, or just like Froyo more than Honeycomb, I am working on modding the stock 2.2 ROM to use a lower screen density, giving it more of a tablet feel.
So, I've already lowered the screen density to 120 (I can use 130 or 140 if people prefer) and I am trying a few different launchers (I saw a stock Froyo launcher in an Evo 4G thread, it if looks good, I might use that, to get more of a stock Android experience) because Dell Stage does not look good if you change the density. I might to a couple build.prop edits, to make it feel smoother, and I plan on removing or adding apps (it's already root, so Superuser and Root Explorer will be included.)
If anyone has any requests for apps to add or remove, any advice that might help, or anything else useful, please feel free to tell me.
Also, since this uses the 2.2 kernel, this should be flashable through CWM, which is the main reason I am making it. Basically, it'll be stock Froyo, on the stock kernel, designed to feel more like a tablet.
Since this is more of a discussion than a ROM release, being that it's not out yet, if this would be better in general, mods can feel free to move it
EDIT: So, here are the changes from stock Froyo: Dell Stage has been replaced with Launcher Pro (set to display a 6x6 icon grid), it's pre-rooted and comes with Super User and Root Explorer, the build.prop has been edited for a 130 screen density, less frequent scanning for a wifi network (to save battery), and smoother scrolling and scaling. I want to find a user agent that enables all market apps, and remove some bloatware.
Love launcher pro, if you could theme it like ginger bread that would be awesome too.
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Love launcher pro, if you could theme it like ginger bread that would be awesome too.
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I don't think the free verison of LauncherPro is themable, but I can probably install a Gingerbread themed launcher as an alternative.
More a kernel than a ROM thing, but I want tun.ko, and I know some others want CIFS.. I'm really missing using OpenVPN on my DS7, as it's the only way I can sync my Google account at work on wifi without tethering to my phone.
Why go back to froyo? rooted gingerbread with cwm density 120 would be nice.....
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Why go back to froyo? rooted gingerbread with cwm density 120 would be nice.....
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lol. It's Froyo because, unlike DJ_Steve, I am not awesome enough to port anything else. Modding the OS it comes with is alot easier than making a new one
Anyways, I am basically using Build.prop and adding/removing APK's to make it feel more like a tablet. Then, I'm going to create a zip using CWM or something.
I would like it to be fast and swift with no bloat wear and also support for swapper 2
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lol. It's Froyo because, unlike DJ_Steve, I am not awesome enough to port anything else. Modding the OS it comes with is alot easier than making a new one
Anyways, I am basically using Build.prop and adding/removing APK's to make it feel more like a tablet. Then, I'm going to create a zip using CWM or something.
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Send dj steve some dr dre beats headset funds and im sure he will let you use his gingerbread and then you can mod it with cwm and change density and maybe add overclocking lol
Try Zeam Launcher. It's pretty simple, but free and you can customise the rows/columns and such to make it more tablet-like.
I'd like to see overclock, black notification bar, and improved battery life. If there's anything that can be done to make Cell Standby not such a hog (way more battery goes to this over my Galaxy Tab), that would be awesome.
Well, as far as improved battery life, for the WiFi version, the cell apk's will be disabled by default, and I did a build.prop edit that scans for open wifi networks less frequesntly, so if WiFi is on but not connected, you drain less battery scanning. I've tried changing the Browser user-agent in build.prop, but when I went to whatismyuseragent or whatever that site is, even though it said I was using Mozilla 5, it still knew it was Android, so I'm looking for a way to better spoof a PC, so mobile sites aren't viewed by default. As far as editing cell standby or overclocking, I might get DJ_Steves Streakdroid 1.3 build, and then apply my changes to that, so you get the overclocking kernel, but that would mean taking away Bluetooth. Also, I'm still trying to figure out how to rip the ROM with clockwork - if I just make a backup, it checks the MD5, so it won't work for someone else.
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Send dj steve some dr dre beats headset funds and im sure he will let you use his gingerbread and then you can mod it with cwm and change density and maybe add overclocking lol
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Lol. 2 problems. First, if he had a Gingerbread ROM, I think he would've released it. Second, if I had a pair of Beats, I'm keeping those 300 dollar headphones for myself
things to add
A couple of major things to have would be :
1) a modified wpa supplicant file to allow tethering to adhoc (pm me if u need it)
2) any basic file explorer
3) a working overclock
4) vtl launcher - xda flavor
Just a few for thought
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Lol. 2 problems. First, if he had a Gingerbread ROM, I think he would've released it. Second, if I had a pair of Beats, I'm keeping those 300 dollar headphones for myself
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Ugh. Don't insult our only dev by mentioning insanely overpriced, terrible headphones.
There are several features that I am used to on CM7 that I miss daily on my tablet. Primarily, the notification power widget and the ability to swipe to clear notifications. Also, being able to select the rotation angles available would be handy.
Would be nice but might be a bit much: Automatic backlight level adjustments and lockscreen tweaks.
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There are several features that I am used to on CM7 that I miss daily on my tablet. Primarily, the notification power widget and the ability to swipe to clear notifications. Also, being able to select the rotation angles available would be handy.
Would be nice but might be a bit much: Automatic backlight level adjustments and lockscreen tweaks.
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Swipe on notifications is a Gingerbread function.. and really? That annoys me more than anything.
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Swipe on notifications is a Gingerbread function.. and really? That annoys me more than anything.
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Oh god yes, I am going crazy without it! How do you get rid of a single notification if you dont want to open the app? For example, when downloading updates from the market. I love the ability to swipe swipe swipe, open, swipe. I have never once accidentally dismissed something I didnt want to, so I dont see how it could be even remotely annoying.
For me it seems like the most intuitive solution.
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Oh god yes, I am going crazy without it! How do you get rid of a single notification if you dont want to open the app? For example, when downloading updates from the market. I love the ability to swipe swipe swipe, open, swipe. I have never once accidentally dismissed something I didnt want to, so I dont see how it could be even remotely annoying.
For me it seems like the most intuitive solution.
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I've never once cared to leave a single notification, I always just hit clear.
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I've never once cared to leave a single notification, I always just hit clear.
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Options: the beauty of Android. I second the swipe to clear a single notification idea.
I wish I could do that. I'm basically just using APK's and build.prop tweaks to get it how I want it. I don't know enough about programming for Android to do anything interesting :-/
Basically, as of now (and untill I figure out how to rip the ROM for public upload) it's a lower screen density, some build.prop tweaks for smoother scrolling and better battery life, running on rooted Froyo. It's pretty basic :-/