Here's the catch: Vibrant ROMs are so large. With that thought in mind, I was thinking about how small we could get a ROM. How about everybody gives it a shot?
ROM TO USE: Deodexed KB1 (EDT)
My take at it: KB1 (113,126 KB)
I think thats the main point of the Loki rom by Brick... I think its around 110MB... Don't remember if its based off of KB1 tho
EDIT: Just checked and its 111MB, themed, and KB1 based
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Why does size matter anyway?
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what are the limits ?
smackdown85146 said:
Here's the catch: Vibrant ROMs are so large. With that thought in mind, I was thinking about how small we could get a ROM. How about everybody gives it a shot?
ROM TO USE: Deodexed KB1 (EDT)
My take at it: KB1 (113,126 KB)
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i can go as small as 60mb
maybe smaller. this isnt a game u guys will want to play
jumaaneface said:
i can go as small as 60mb
maybe smaller. this isnt a game u guys will want to play
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I can go to 4mb...
But it wont boot xD
Really, what is this thread doing here? LOL.
Does it really matter how small someone can make it?
jumaaneface said:
i can go as small as 60mb
maybe smaller. this isnt a game u guys will want to play
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I'd love to see a Vibrant ROM at around 60mb. What are you stripping out to get it that small?
MorphiusFaydal said:
I'd love to see a Vibrant ROM at around 60mb. What are you stripping out to get it that small?
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I also would liketo know that. What's the lowest android can go while still maintaing functionality, like pure barebones
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shovelhead83 said:
I just saved a bunch of money on my auto insurance!
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Exactly
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Master™ said:
I can go to 4mb...
But it wont boot xD
Really, what is this thread doing here? LOL.
Does it really matter how small someone can make it?
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In a way, it does. I just want to see how small somebody can make it. Downloads can be a real hassle if the ROM is gigantic. I personally think this is fun and interesting
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In a way, it does. I just want to see how small somebody can make it. Downloads can be a real hassle if the ROM is gigantic. I personally think this is fun and interesting
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Really? This is 2011 who is having bandwidth problems that even a 50% reduction in ROM size would affect?
pvspencer22 said:
Really? This is 2011 who is having bandwidth problems that even a 50% reduction in ROM size would affect?
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+1
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In a way, it does. I just want to see how small somebody can make it. Downloads can be a real hassle if the ROM is gigantic. I personally think this is fun and interesting
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Downloads- and I speak for a majority- aren't a hassle in terms of ROMs. The average user can download 200mbs in about 20 minutes. ROMs are less than that.
I hate when people enter threads like this and just quickly reply--what's the point.
When you get down to it, what is the point of having more then 1 alternative ROM. Isn't the whole idea of ROMing to customize, optimize and just plain have fun with an open platform?
So to all those that said, what's the point. The point of this is FOR FUN!
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...what is the point of having more then 1 alternative ROM. Isn't the whole idea of ROMing to customize, optimize and just plain have fun with an open platform?...
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Well, if Master said he can make a 4MB ROM, its most likely not going to be customizable, nor optimized.
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Well, if Master said he can make a 4MB ROM, its most likely not going to be customizable, nor optimized.
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That was a joke. The point is, the base kernel image is a "rom". everything you add to that adds a little more functionality (starting with hardware). It's all a matter of what you can live without, and not everyone feels the same way. I think you'd have to spell out what you consider to be "minimum functionality."
Otherwise, if you don't want any apps, or for your phone to react in any way what-so-ever when you press buttons or touch the screen, I think I could make you something
im on 80 meg rom got slimmed from original loiki by bricked .
Just a quick stat: Less than 60% of the US has broadband, so a small ROM for those folks is probably welcome ;->
(And if they're in an area without broadband, do you really think they have solid 3G?)
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Just a quick stat: Less than 60% of the US has broadband, so a small ROM for those folks is probably welcome ;->
(And if they're in an area without broadband, do you really think they have solid 3G?)
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Let's see that statistic cross-referenced against smartphone owners.
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I want one just like it the same camera app but I need it to be a tmobile US rom so i can have my faves
Darrien13 said:
I want one just like it the same camera app but I need it to be a tmobile US rom so i can have my faves
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ive never used thedude's rom but from the thread, it says it uses the Rogers camera which i believe is like the HTC camera
if so, then you should get CyanogenMod rom which uses the HTC camera
but if the reason you want to switch to a diff rom is cuz of myfaves, then just go to the apps section and download the non-odexed version of myfaves
Just set up myfaves online so you don't have that garbage on your phone.
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Just set up myfaves online so you don't have that garbage on your phone.
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agreed!!! or get mytouchski it has mygay in it if your to lazy to go online.
imbonez9 said:
agreed!!! or get mytouchski it has mygay in it if your to lazy to go online.
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I agree, the myfaves app is such an annoying waste of space. It's not like you don't already have a web browser... And you dont need the app for anything...Just get Better Cut and make 5 shortcuts.
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I agree, the myfaves app is such an annoying waste of space. It's not like you don't already have a web browser... And you dont need the app for anything...Just get Better Cut and make 5 shortcuts.
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Hey another one using 100+ swap!!! fast isn't it? haha yes going off topic but i mean come on use your dam computer, i mean if i could change it daily ya phone need, but its ONCE A MONTH!!!
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I want one just like it the same camera app but I need it to be a tmobile US rom so i can have my faves
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I'll have myfaves on my next build if I ever get around to it again
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I'll have myfaves on my next build if I ever get around to it again
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Speak of the devil...i mean dude
Indeed! Not seen you about for aaages Dude ^_^ Hope your job application and that went well, after all while its fun playing around with technology, unless you get paid for it, its going to hurt >_< I know as I'm in the same boat atm haha.
All the best.
If it does can someone give me a link to where i can find it?
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If it does can someone give me a link to where i can find it?
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No it does not. This is why we use Compcache or a Swap partition on our sd card.
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If it does can someone give me a link to where i can find it?
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No, and to continue to beat a dead f-ing horse:
<edit>Please</edit>Don't post questions in the dev section.
<edit>Please</edit>Do your own research. This has been brought up before and has been explained.
Because the ram hack takes away from 3D, the performance is actually worse off than helped.
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If it does can someone give me a link to where i can find it?
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No it doesn't because most CM followers want cool toys instead of stable phones. I don't play 3d games either, so there's a sacrifice I'm willing to make, but they don't understand that. I'm working on one, but with the job and family, it will be a while. I'll post it once it's stable.
That is no longer used, due to the fact that the new kernel branch isn't compatible with the ram hack at all. A kernel dev would have one avail if it was possible to make one.
You people are all missing the facts in this;
The reason there is no 10 MB hack is NOT because it isn't possible, or even because it is difficult.... it is because ECLAIRE DEPENDS ON 3D much more than previous android versions did. Take away 10 MB from the GPU and it all turns to crap -- whether you 3dgame or not.
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You people are all missing the facts in this;
The reason there is no 10 MB hack is NOT because it isn't possible, or even because it is difficult.... it is because ECLAIRE DEPENDS ON 3D much more than previous android versions did. Take away 10 MB from the GPU and it all turns to crap -- whether you 3dgame or not.
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Oh dang, shoulda known king lbcoder would come in and correct everyone.
Anyway, since we have no 10mb ram hack, we use compcache or a swap partition (at least on G1's) to make up for low memory. But this might not be fact...just what everyone is doing in the G1 Development Forum.
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Oh dang, shoulda known king lbcoder would come in and correct everyone.
Anyway, since we have no 10mb ram hack, we use compcache or a swap partition (at least on G1's) to make up for low memory. But this might not be fact...just what everyone is doing in the G1 Development Forum.
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I suggest not using swap.... it is quite an ugly hack for android -- makes things slow. Let the android memory manager do its job -- it is very good at it.
lbcoder said:
I suggest not using swap.... it is quite an ugly hack for android -- makes things slow. Let the android memory manager do its job -- it is very good at it.
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it does a terrible job... why does my homescreen have to reload all the time after using an app? and why doesn't it do that in donut?
yeah it does a HORRRIBLE job haha, dont try it
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it does a terrible job... why does my homescreen have to reload all the time after using an app? and why doesn't it do that in donut?
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yeah it does a HORRRIBLE job haha, dont try it
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If you're using ADW Launcher, try locking home in memory from spare parts. It fixed that issue for me.
nevermind found it.
Hey everyone,
Seems Supercurio has finally got a beta of his true fix for the lag on Samsung Galaxy S phones. The github is below.
DO NOT FLASH ON A VIBRANT until there is a Vibrant version. This is posted so developers can take a look at the source code and start implementing it for the Vibrant.
http://github.com/voodoo-project/lagfix
Hopefully JAC can integrate this fix into his OC\Stock kernels, and we can enjoy our phones without the typical "galaxy s" lag/stuttering.
HUGE thanks to supercurio for all his hard work putting this together
EDIT: lol, guess he hasnt posted the source yet. the ramdisk is available in the download section.
Enjoy! Happy coding!
This is great news, looking forward to it!
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looking forward to its release!
Nice! The other lagfixes didn't work too well for me.
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Nice! The other lagfixes didn't work too well for me.
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I will be implementing this in my kernel. I speak with curio fairly often.
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I will be implementing this in my kernel. I speak with curio fairly often.
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i will have a shrine put up in my living room just for you JAC
justanothercrowd said:
I will be implementing this in my kernel. I speak with curio fairly often.
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*turns into an 80s headbanger a la Wayne & Garth*
We are not worthy! We are not worthyyyy!
Really tho', thanks man, great work. You and Eugene are making me love this phone in the same way as my G1 . . . Constantly ****in' with it Ha
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I will be implementing this in my kernel. I speak with curio fairly often.
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Nice! You and Eugene are the best!! XD
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so will this lag fix will not tap in to the 2gig app space ...
I can't wait to give this fix a try.
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I will be implementing this in my kernel. I speak with curio fairly often.
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Glad to hear that, keep up the good work man.
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Jac said on his twitter that he had already ported it and if all gites well will be releasing tomorrow. Props to jac! I am seriously grateful we have such high quality devs with the vibrant
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Hey everyone,
Seems Supercurio has finally got a beta of his true fix for the lag on Samsung Galaxy S phones. The github is below.
DO NOT FLASH ON A VIBRANT until there is a Vibrant version. This is posted so developers can take a look at the source code and start implementing it for the Vibrant.
http://github.com/voodoo-project/lagfix
Hopefully JAC can integrate this fix into his OC\Stock kernels, and we can enjoy our phones without the typical "galaxy s" lag/stuttering.
HUGE thanks to supercurio for all his hard work putting this together
EDIT: lol, guess he hasnt posted the source yet. the ramdisk is available in the download section.
Enjoy! Happy coding!
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PM me, if you can, when this is working for the vibrant, i will post it to the directory.
almyz125 said:
PM me, if you can, when this is working for the vibrant, i will post it to the directory.
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Will do. I'm following it fairly closely, so ill know first thing
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so will this lag fix will not tap in to the 2gig app space ...
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It will take up ALL of the 2GB /data partition lol. Mostly kidding....sort of. Actually, it will change the file system of /data to EXT4 so you can use all 2GBs as originally intended, and without lag. Best permanent fix for "galaxy S" lag.....(I think the term "lag fix" is now dead btw, it has lost all meaning besides "less lag than stock")
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(I think the term "lag fix" is now dead btw, it has lost all meaning besides "less lag than stock")
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I've yet to use one that improves the phones performance noticeably (ignoring all Quadrant results).
Really looking forward to this
Great cant wait to try this fix...... Also should I repartion my external sd card with a ext 4 for this or does this use the internal 16 gig and do it automatic...?
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It's a shame that it looks like everyone forgot about this.
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It's a shame that it looks like everyone forgot about this.
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I don't believe anybody forgot about this, we are just patiently waiting for a final, safe version to be released. IIRC JAC was working on one but wanted to test it more. I'd rather have something take a while and be stable than have a phone that crashes or doesn't work right. Just be patient, it'll come.
I for one have not forgot about this at all, I was seriously waiting all day at work (slow day in the ITS dept. cause of the holiday) for it to come out. However I have overheard that they found some bugs, specifically dealing with flashing recovery back (correct me if I am wrong). This is the mod that I have really been anticipating, more so than almost any of then. But it will come out when it does. Next week I am going to buy some rum for eugene and jac for all their great work. But replacing rfs with ext is a huge step in the right direction and I am very excited to see the results and cannot wait to try it! It is the weekend though and they all have lives for this holiday, my phone is already rocking enough socks, I can wait a bit for a stable mod, and prefer to at that. I believe this mod will be one of the more significant that has been created so far instead of the virtual ext or external ext (currently running ext4 to my class 6 with jac's), not having to jury rig this stuff together anymore will be nice. Props to jac and eugene! (and anomalous3 too, don't know where I would be if I couldn't push apks from your deodexed rom)
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And, it gets better. He seems to have found a way to correct the color by adjusting the overall color temp of the phone!!
I believe this will be implemented as well and hopefully ported over to the Vibrant. My two biggest gripes with this phone will be fixed in one fell swoop.
Honeycomb source has been dropped! Follow the link for more information.
http://androidspin.com/2011/01/27/download-the-android-3-0-honeycomb-system-dump-now/
Getting really excited about our future.
EDIT: I apologize...I read system dump, and misspoke when typing. Still, I am hoping that this may be step in the right direction in furthering the Android platform for Vibrant. Hopefully the mods can rename the post to "Honeycomb system dump...?"
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That's not the source code. That is a system dump. As far as i know the source is still unavailable. Hopefully soon it will be, but some devs are working on getting these system dumps/sdks to run on our devices.
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It also seems to be more aimed at tablets, so gingerbread might be a better target for our devs time. Of course that's up to them on how they want to spend it.
Are you refering to the update on our sdk?
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65meg is pretty damn small. Gonna d/l for the fun of it.
@OP: Mistakes happen. However, you really need to change the thread title to be more accurate.
Edit: Oh.....SDK dump. That makes more sense.
Hopefully this will lead to more of the honey..............comb
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It also seems to be more aimed at tablets, so gingerbread might be a better target for our devs time. Of course that's up to them on how they want to spend it.
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I thing GB is a better time spended...HC on the vibrant would just be odd and not work well...IMO
i'm excited! I kind of want to see if any of the apps will work in froyo besides music
isn't honeycomb only compatible for tablets?
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isn't honeycomb only compatible for tablets?
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It can be modded and hacked to port over but yes, it's was/is designed for tablets.
heres a download link for all the system apps....http://www.mediafire.com/?o6w8x9y5vaykzgv
Thanks to Kykiskly over at the EVO 4G Themes and Apps.. (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=931537)
getting a parsing error though...
im only a messenger =)
Honeycomb has no phone capabilities.
been working on 2.3.1, anyone good with kernels?
vetvito said:
Honeycomb has no phone capabilities.
been working on 2.3.1, anyone good with kernels?
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I'd hit krylon360 up, he's been working on gingerbread and a kernel for it I believe.
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I'd hit krylon360 up, he's been working on gingerbread and a kernel for it I believe.
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i was going to say Krylon, hes a beast
Just saw an article that there may be some smartphone compatability, but not much. I wouldn't be surprised if its just code left from the 2.0 line. I'm betting they'll end up remerging hte lines at some point.
Here's the article Honeycomb Emulator Shows Smartphone View
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i was going to say Krylon, hes a beast
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lol. Guys, Krylon and I haven't even gotten a fully functional and stable 2.3 finished yet, and now you want HC? So many facepalms just occurred.
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lol. Guys, Krylon and I haven't even gotten a fully functional and stable 2.3 finished yet, and now you want HC? So many facepalms just occurred.
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well you know if 5.0 was out everyone would expect that also
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lol. Guys, Krylon and I haven't even gotten a fully functional and stable 2.3 finished yet, and now you want HC? So many facepalms just occurred.
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I'm happy with Bionix-v and awaiting whatever comes next. 2.3 AOSP would be awesome to get away form RFS, but I know that's a big request, so I'm happy with what I get, especially from work y'all are doing in your spare time.
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I'm happy with Bionix-v and awaiting whatever comes next. 2.3 AOSP would be awesome to get away form RFS, but I know that's a big request, so I'm happy with what I get, especially from work y'all are doing in your spare time.
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+1
Totally content here to just keep checking back and seeing what you Mad Scientists have cooked up for our phones. I am technical, but cannot program/develop to save my life, I went into the support end of the IT field.
Heck, I can program, its what I do for a living, but I don't have the background in this stuff, or unfortunately the time to learn it. I'd REALLY love to learn..
Dear good sirs,
is there a kernel out there that will unleash the full 512MB of RAM? please?
thank you
I believe a dedicated amount is for the video graphics.
xdahgary said:
I believe a dedicated amount is for the video graphics.
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You are right, no rom will ever have the full amount available as it is reserved for the video graphics
zelendel said:
You are right, no rom will ever have the full amount available as it is reserved for the video graphics
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yay me. where's my cookie?
No. Samsung lied to us.
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No. Samsung lied to us.
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so no cookie?
Samsung would hate for anyone to enjoy a cookie, sadly.
does the Nexus One use all 512MB through it's Kernel's?
I think the biggest I've seen is in cognition with has 304 available for user/apps. As others above have said a portion will always be dedicated to video.
It's quite common on laptops. They'll advertise like 2gb but windows will show a lower value. The difference is allocated to video.
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so no cookie?
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I will give you a cookie...
But its not ready yet...
But soon...
I promise...
No phone utilizes the 512... likes folks already mentioned its shared with video like computers with an onboard video will behave the same way.
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I will give you a cookie...
But its not ready yet...
But soon...
I promise...
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But you can buy this newer, better cookie...
It's bigger, and has twice the amount of stuff inside.
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I will give you a cookie...
But its not ready yet...
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I promise...
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And I will tempt you with it and send messengers with mouth-watering descriptions of it and even ask you for questions about the cookie that I cannot answer...
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But you can buy this newer, better cookie...
It's bigger, and has twice the amount of stuff inside.
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But it's still stale and burnt on the bottom.
I'm not buying anything from that bakery anymore.
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I will give you a cookie...
But its not ready yet...
But soon...
I promise...
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And ill give the rest of the world a cookie right this second...annnndd....you can have yours....in a month ... Or two...or three..or for sure four....or five....or six.... Promise
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paragon 5.1 shows max 340 in task manager
Hi, I'm cookiemakermnjm9b
I would like to make a HUGE announcement.....
But first I must start several other threads only to abandon every one of them.
but.. but.. I was supposed to already have my cookie? And now they say I'm supposed to get a newer better cookie tasting like ginger?
But all I want is a good tasting cookie that is fresh, not the old stale chewy one that they are trying to give me eventually
I would gladly pay you Tuesday for a cookie today......