Okay in a different thread there was a comment that the Nook Color could be boot off of an SD card into a different operating system without root.
Someone referred my to "any froyo discussion" about this when asked. Everything I have come across requires running some ADB commands, which I thought required Root. SO I am thoroughly confused.
With most items I would have no issue rooting it, then following the discussion would be simpler. In this case, I want to be able to boot it stock, and retain things like access to in-store features, or boot it into a different version (could care less which at the moment), and load apps, etc. on it.
So please forgive the noob aspect of this, I just want to be sure I am understanding the process before I try to duplicate it.
you don't need root as its booting from the sd card before it even loads the 2.1 os thats on the device (emmc)
i.e. this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883175 is the initial nookie froyo, you burn the image to sd and then stick it in the nook color, when you boot it just boots from sd and ignores the emmc, being rooted helps it none because it never loads the os that the root would be on
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So my next question would be: Do all of the various OS flavors that are out there working on Nook Color work as an SD bootable image, or only the Froyo that was referred to above?
I am guessing (will search later) that there are repositories where I can get things like, say, the market, since the version of Froyo above seems not to include it.
I would have posted this question on the developer board, but I am too much of a noob. I am wary that my question will sound like jibberish, but I am really confused about dual booting and the special files that are necessary.
I am using rooted 1.1 stock and have got it customized about as far as I can go. I want to run CM7, but the one app that keeps me tied to the Eclaire OS is the original B&N reader app that allows downloading of magazines and newspapers. From what I gather, the standard Market Nook app does not allow magazines and newspapers to be downloaded. I saw that some on this board are trying to port the original stock reader to Froyo and CM7, but they are not there yet.
Because I want to keep 1.1 and still try out CM7, I am looking to either boot CM7 off an SD card or dual boot 1.1 and CM7 in eMMC. I have yet to see a solution for booting CM7 off SD, so I have turned my attention to dual booting.
There are threads and files on the development board that allow for dual booting, but I can't quite figure them out. If possible, I would like to have the current 1.1 placed in the "alternative" partition (Power+n) and CM7 in the main partition (Power). Here are my questions:
Can I dual boot my existing 1.1 and the latest version of CM7 (14)?
Can I do this without any specially modded ROMs?
Does running the partitioning program destroy the existing 1.1 setup?
There is also a "script" to move the current setup to the new partition. Does that mean that my exising 1.1 setup will be left intact after the partitioning and can be moved without any alteration?
If so, do I need a special version of CM7 or will it automatially flash to the proper partition?
Assuming this is all possible, how do I use adb with all of the partitions?
And lastly, is CWM still usable in this type of arrangement?
I am sorry for all of these questions and I hope they kind of make sense. Thanks very much in advance for any help.
All good questions. I can only answer number 3. the partitioning zip will not destroy the BN install. Just makes the free space on the emmc smaller. Well it does more then that, but that is what you'll notice when using the BN install. I successfully used it to dual boot with HC. There is a bug with CWM 3005 that you'll run into if you follow the HC dual boot instructions from addictivetips. Use CWM 3010 or look for the shell script you have to ADB onto the CWM to allow CWM 3005 work with the dual boot script.
I'd love the answers to the other questions as well.
This is the fastest and easiest way I found to Dual Boot. Works flawlessly.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=941883
I just got my Nook Color and am looking into how to go about rooting it for CM7. I checked out CM's Wiki page on it here and it mentioned using uNooter. I haven't read about this tool anywhere else and Google searches for it turn up practically nothing. Is this not the right tool to use? The forums mostly seem to mention ManualNooter, Auto-Nooter, etc. Also is it possible to flash CM7 on the internal memory and avoid using an SD card altogether?
Never heard of unooter and I've been reading theses forums since December. Auto mooter was to root the older firmware 1.0 ,1.01,and 1.1. Manualnooter is for the newer froyo firmware.
Rooting stock is not required to install CM7.
You simply need to create a Clockworkmod recovery microSD card and you can then flash CM7 (which is pre-rooted) from Clockworkmod.
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Rooting stock is not required to install CM7.
You simply need to create a Clockworkmod recovery microSD card and you can then flash CM7 (which is pre-rooted) from Clockworkmod.
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Thanks. I figured this would be relatively easy compared to rooting and putting CM7 on my EVO but reading on here there seemed to be a few different approaches. Will that method allow me to flash CM7 to the eMMC, and after that point will I no longer need the SD card to boot? I ask because I don't have a card on hand and am considering backing up the contents from my phone's card and using that.
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Thanks. I figured this would be relatively easy compared to rooting and putting CM7 on my EVO but reading on here there seemed to be a few different approaches. Will that method allow me to flash CM7 to the eMMC, and after that point will I no longer need the SD card to boot? I ask because I don't have a card on hand and am considering backing up the contents from my phone's card and using that.
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Correct.
You only need the SD to install a bootable CWM then you can flash CM7 from that. After words when CM7 is installed to eMMC you are able to use Rom Manager to install CWM to eMMC as well, so everything will be set up on the device's internal memory. SD is needed only for the initial boot of CWM to install CM7.
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Correct.
You only need the SD to install a bootable CWM then you can flash CM7 from that. After words when CM7 is installed to eMMC you are able to use Rom Manager to install CWM to eMMC as well, so everything will be set up on the device's internal memory. SD is needed only for the initial boot of CWM to install CM7.
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Thanks. From reading around it seems you can't use a phone or the Nook to mount the card and write the image, so I'll have to buy a reader and might as well get a card for the Nook at the same time. Since I'll be flashing CM7 to eMMC does it really matter if I get a class 4 or above card like many suggest? I'm not sure what's in my EVO but that is my benchmark. Class 2 seems to be what comes up in searches the most.
The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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Transcend 8 GBs have worked beautifully on all 3 NC's in my house.
xdp said:
I just got my Nook Color and am looking into how to go about rooting it for CM7. I checked out CM's Wiki page on it here and it mentioned using uNooter. I haven't read about this tool anywhere else and Google searches for it turn up practically nothing. Is this not the right tool to use? The forums mostly seem to mention ManualNooter, Auto-Nooter, etc. Also is it possible to flash CM7 on the internal memory and avoid using an SD card altogether?
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I was the one that put together uNooter after being contacted by the individual that maintains the CyanogenMod wiki. They wanted a universal Nooter that would only root the device, install Superuser, ADB, RomManger, and work on all versions of the NC software. They asked that it be called uNooter. It is not released anywhere else, so that is why you did not see any mention of it on a Google search.
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The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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That information is really only relevant to running a ROM from the SD card. If you're only using the card for storage, or to get CM7 on eMMC, manufacturer and card class don't matter.
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Thanks. From reading around it seems you can't use a phone or the Nook to mount the card and write the image, so I'll have to buy a reader and might as well get a card for the Nook at the same time. Since I'll be flashing CM7 to eMMC does it really matter if I get a class 4 or above card like many suggest? I'm not sure what's in my EVO but that is my benchmark. Class 2 seems to be what comes up in searches the most.
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I wrote my image over USB to a card in the NC without a card reader. I've seen wiki guides saying there's a greater chance of the write getting interrupted, rendering the card unusable at least in the short term, but it worked for me. It was only when I wanted to revert the card to storage that I ended up needing a card reader. The links in my sig have a little more info about using the NC as your card reader, but you're probably better off just grabbing one.
Also, while CM7 does not require an SD card, many apps do. Your experience will be somewhat limited without one.
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I was the one that put together uNooter after being contacted by the individual that maintains the CyanogenMod wiki. They wanted a universal Nooter that would only root the device, install Superuser, ADB, RomManger, and work on all versions of the NC software. They asked that it be called uNooter. It is not released anywhere else, so that is why you did not see any mention of it on a Google search.
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Great to hear directly from the source, thanks! I'm surprised more people don't point to your tool on the forums given that it's right on the CM Wiki. At this point I'm a little confused about the various approaches to do this. Does your tool install ROM Manager directly into the stock Nook interface, and then I flash from there, versus booting CWM off the SD as people mentioned earlier in the thread? Sorry if that's completely off-base.
Taosaur said:
That information is really only relevant to running a ROM from the SD card. If you're only using the card for storage, or to get CM7 on eMMC, manufacturer and card class don't matter.
I wrote my image over USB to a card in the NC without a card reader. I've seen wiki guides saying there's a greater chance of the write getting interrupted, rendering the card unusable at least in the short term, but it worked for me. It was only when I wanted to revert the card to storage that I ended up needing a card reader. The links in my sig have a little more info about using the NC as your card reader, but you're probably better off just grabbing one.
Also, while CM7 does not require an SD card, many apps do. Your experience will be somewhat limited without one.
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Yeah, I thought about this as well and figured I'd want a full-time card for the device so I ordered a card with SD adapter. I figured the specs didn't matter at all for a data card but picked up a class 4 Sandisk anyway.
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Great to hear directly from the source, thanks! I'm surprised more people don't point to your tool on the forums given that it's right on the CM Wiki. At this point I'm a little confused about the various approaches to do this. Does your tool install ROM Manager directly into the stock Nook interface, and then I flash from there, versus booting CWM off the SD as people mentioned earlier in the thread? Sorry if that's completely off-base.
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I received notice this past Monday that the cleaned up version of the CyanogenMod wiki was online, so not a whole lot of exposure for people to talk about it. I believe the old wiki had listed the different Auto-Nooter and Manual-Nooter that went with each software version, thus taking up a lot of space and confusion. AN and MN are more tailored to people that want to stick with the stock software, but enable full Android Market access. People that want to go from stock to CyanogenMod don’t need all the extra software that is bundled with AN and MN just to be able to flash CyanogenMod. By eliminating all the version specific software I was able to create a version that would work on all current, and hopefully future, software versions.
Yes, my versions will install Rom Manager directly into the interface. You would then allow Rom Manger to install CWM Recovery, and then you can download and install CyanogenMod from the device. You could also take a full backup of your current stock rom. Using uNooter or bootable CWM will both get you to where you want to go, it is really up to you on how you want to get there.
Instructions for installing CM7 to the eMMC using CWM on a SD card (which can later be reformatted for storage) is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227.
GMPOWER and bigbob23: Thanks for the info, that was exactly what I needed to clear everything up. I suppose backing up the stock ROM would be useful in case I ever needed to restore it for warranty purposes or anything. I'm not sure which approach I'll go with, my SD card came today so I'll be reading over both techniques and giving one a shot!
Thanks again.
I went through the process with uNooter as outlined on the CM Wiki and it went perfectly. The only thing was I had to use SD Formatter and the earliest 0.1 version of Win32 Disk Imager to get the image to write to the SD card. Not sure if that problem is specific to Win7 64-bit but maybe I can mention it on the wiki.
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I went through the process with uNooter as outlined on the CM Wiki and it went perfectly. The only thing was I had to use SD Formatter and the earliest 0.1 version of Win32 Disk Imager to get the image to write to the SD card. Not sure if that problem is specific to Win7 64-bit but maybe I can mention it on the wiki.
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I am glad that you got everything to work right. I think the problems that you might have experienced are more associated with win7 x64. My replacement laptop with win7 x64 will not be here for another two weeks for me to test it on, but in the past I have had to use Unlocker almost every time to unlock the usb drive before I could proceed with flashing using Win32 disk imager. On my current windows 7 x86 setup, I have yet had to use Unlocker to be able to flash an image with the win32 program. HERE is a post with people having problems in the past with win32 disk imager on win7 x64, they took the same path that you did with Panasonic SD Card Formatter to fix it.
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I guess this worked for the latest firmware of 1.2.0? (I am about to root one soon!) thanks in advance!)
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I guess this worked for the latest firmware of 1.2.0? (I am about to root one soon!) thanks in advance!)
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I just got my nook last week so I'm assuming I had the latest factory firmware when rooting, but I didn't check.
xdp said:
I just got my nook last week so I'm assuming I had the latest factory firmware when rooting, but I didn't check.
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If you see "Read Forever" when booting (stock) then "Yes" you have the latest firmware.
ADB after uNooter?
Above, GMPOWER mentioned ADB as one of the items uNooter installed. I've rooted with uNooter in part because *nothing* *else* I could find would actually boot on my NC and in part because I liked the idea of a relatively minimal root. I figured I could then push any apk's I wanted to add with adb.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be working. I used "NookColor Tools -> All Settings -> Development" to enable USB debugging, but 'adb devices' shows nothing. If I plug in my G2 with CM7, adb finds it just fine, so I'm pretty sure I've got the computer side of things working. Any hints about getting the NC to play nice?
Ok, first off let me say that I am a new member and love the site. There is a ton of great information on the site, but I seem to be having trouble finding an answer to my specific situation.
After hearing about honeycomb and gingerbread being installed on the NC, I decided to give it a shot. After reviewing each OS, I decided on going with gingerbread. I followed a youtube video and a few threads on XDA and eventually installed the gingerbread OS, Gapps, and Netflix.apk files on my Nook. Everything worked fairly well and I was happy.
My question to you all is, would there be a way to take all the apps, OS, etc. that I currently have on my Rooted NC and make an image of it to then put on a bootable SD card?
My ideal end result would be to have:
1. a Bootable SD card with my current apps, OS, etc. on it.
2. a freshly restored nook color.
3. the ability to either remove the SD card to switch between the GB/NC OS, or have a boot option when booting up the Nook.
Any help with this process would be greatly appreciated!
Thanks in advance,
Nick (Nudarkshadowl)
I bought my daughters Nook Colors for Christmas. They are registered on B&N and are running the 1.4.1 B&N Software. I've been trying since last night to figure out how the heck to get these things rooted and get CM7 on them.
I followed these directions (androidforums.com/nookcolor-all-things-root/327798-how-make-bootable-cwm-clockworkmod-version-3-2-0-1-recovery-sd-card.html[/url]) and cannot get it to boot to clockworkmod. No matter what I try, it just boots up to the nook software. I'm using a 2gb Sandisk card.
I'm not new to modding, I've been running CM since the G1, and I thought I knew what I was doing. Apparently I don't. I've been reading threads all over here and everywhere, and until I can get past the rooting step, I can't do anything.
What am I doing wrong? Can I wish for a Christmas miracle and maybe someone can walk me through step by step what I should do? I'm frustrated as can be.
You do not need to root the stock firmware if you are planning to run Cyanogenmod from either SD (external) or eMMC (internal).
It may help to keep in mind that you have no less than three options, each of which require different steps.
If you want to root B&N 1.4.1, read up a few pages in GMPOWER's updated ManualNooter thread in the Development forum: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400486 HINT: Load ONLY his latest ManualNooter on BN 1.4.1. Be sure to block automatic B&N OTA updates to preserve root in the future.
If you want a bootable CM install from SD, try the Size-Agnostic bootable thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
For an internal eMMC install, his thread looks good: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
Sorry, I'm at the ER and can't search right now. Editing forum posts on my NC is a bit awkward!
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You do not need to root the stock firmware if you are planning to run Cyanogenmod from either SD (external) or eMMC (internal).
It may help to keep in mind that you have no less than three options, each of which require different steps.
If you want to root B&N 1.4.1, read up a few pages in GMPOWER's updated ManualNooter thread in the Development forum: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1400486 HINT: Load ONLY his latest ManualNooter on BN 1.4.1. Be sure to block automatic B&N OTA updates to preserve root in the future.
If you want a bootable CM install from SD, try the Size-Agnostic bootable thread: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
For an internal eMMC install, his thread looks good: forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
Sorry, I'm at the ER and can't search right now. Editing forum posts on my NC is a bit awkward!
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I do want to do the internal eMMC install, but that also requires the CWM bootable sd card. That's the step I can't seem to complete successfully.
Got it up and running!! I think I must have had a corrupted CWM bootable file or something.