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Hey Everyone, first off. I love you all. You've made me LOVE my Vibrant and NookColor more than ever!
I have two questions.. (sry my search on the site wasn't working )
1. I had a 4gb microsd card that I used to put the Autonooter for NC on it. Now I'm seeing alot of updates with froyo and overclocking kernels and I want to try them out. But my 4gb card is frozen solid at 32mb, I tried formating a through windows, I read on another post that I cant find at all that theres a better program out there for fully formatting microsd cards back to the original state.. Does anyone know the program?
2. I've been reading daily on the updates for Froyo, Which one is the current most stable version?
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1. Put the uSD card back into your NC. Under the original (BN) Settings ---> Device Info ---> SD card : first unmount the uSD card, then format it. Then remove from NC.
2. Not my thing, no help, sorry.
Thanks for the help on the SD Card! First step done, alot more to go!
Okay, So I installed Clockwork Recovery and made a backup of my system. After I installed clockwork, My nook froze at boot, I figured out how to get into clockwork recovery and I am currently restoring my eclair.
I see alot of people using froyo, which build and what post did everyone do it from? I see alot of eMMC but I see a Development build.. I'm confused as to which one I should get.
Thanks!
Okay in a different thread there was a comment that the Nook Color could be boot off of an SD card into a different operating system without root.
Someone referred my to "any froyo discussion" about this when asked. Everything I have come across requires running some ADB commands, which I thought required Root. SO I am thoroughly confused.
With most items I would have no issue rooting it, then following the discussion would be simpler. In this case, I want to be able to boot it stock, and retain things like access to in-store features, or boot it into a different version (could care less which at the moment), and load apps, etc. on it.
So please forgive the noob aspect of this, I just want to be sure I am understanding the process before I try to duplicate it.
you don't need root as its booting from the sd card before it even loads the 2.1 os thats on the device (emmc)
i.e. this thread http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=883175 is the initial nookie froyo, you burn the image to sd and then stick it in the nook color, when you boot it just boots from sd and ignores the emmc, being rooted helps it none because it never loads the os that the root would be on
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So my next question would be: Do all of the various OS flavors that are out there working on Nook Color work as an SD bootable image, or only the Froyo that was referred to above?
I am guessing (will search later) that there are repositories where I can get things like, say, the market, since the version of Froyo above seems not to include it.
Not sure which rom to pick and which methods to use. I hope someone can point me to threads that will help.
I am not a noob. I have rooted my nook and have booted roms from SD etc. I just don't know if what I want is available and if it is, I would like to know which instead of trying out stuff until I find it.
Anyway this is what I want.
I want to dual boot an SD card meaning, I want the rooted stock rom built in and something else on the SD card.
I want storage to be shared between the stock rom and the SD card rom.
I want the most stable and fast rom
I want adobe flash
Bluetooth preferred, not a must.
I want all market apps in market.
Is possible?
How can I do this?
Just point me in the right direction I can find threads in the development section and fallow instructions, I just want to know which roms and methods to use.
Thanks,
For stable + Flash: Nookie Froyo. Not sure if it has BT, but CM7 should. It is under more constant changes though.
Phiremod 5.1 is pretty snazzy. Fast and stable. Everything works as far as I know.
I want to dual boot an SD card meaning, I want the rooted stock rom built in and something else on the SD card.
I want storage to be shared between the stock rom and the SD card rom.
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Why do you want these things ?
Usually people want to run off an SD card for two reasons:
- To keep the Nook Color stock in order to use B&N features, and get the B&N update in mid-April with Android 2.2, Flash and B&N App Store.
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- To experiment with stuff on the SD rom, and keep the Nook itself stable to do everyday things reliably, like Calendar and Email.
BTW, what do you mean by "storage"? What storage used by what apps for what purpose ?
Tell us what you really want to do with the Nook, and we can give you recommendations, otherwise you will get the previous two posts, that gave you two contradicting recommendations.
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Why do you want these things ?
Usually people want to run off an SD card for two reasons:
- To keep the Nook Color stock in order to use B&N features, and get the B&N update in mid-April with Android 2.2, Flash and B&N App Store.
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- To experiment with stuff on the SD rom, and keep the Nook itself stable to do everyday things reliably, like Calendar and Email.
BTW, what do you mean by "storage"? What storage used by what apps for what purpose ?
Tell us what you really want to do with the Nook, and we can give you recommendations, otherwise you will get the previous two posts, that gave you two contradicting recommendations.
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I want to keep the stock BN features most notably, the magazine and color books reader.
I also want the full android experience with all apps and flash because I can't get apps on the stock rom like Pocket Legends etc.
I want to use the SD card's extra space for storage for both roms. And by storage I mean places for downloads to go, storing mp3 files and photos etc. the normal things the SD is suppose to do. But I wasn't sure if I booted a rom from the SD card that the SD card storage is reserved only for that rom or if it can also be used by the built in stock rom too.
Did you ever find a good ROM? My requirements are the same as yours- I'd like to try a fuller Android experience, but, for a variety of reasons, I'd like to leave the internal memory with my Nookie rooted B&N experience.
If you have a good one, could you link it?
I just got my Nook Color and am looking into how to go about rooting it for CM7. I checked out CM's Wiki page on it here and it mentioned using uNooter. I haven't read about this tool anywhere else and Google searches for it turn up practically nothing. Is this not the right tool to use? The forums mostly seem to mention ManualNooter, Auto-Nooter, etc. Also is it possible to flash CM7 on the internal memory and avoid using an SD card altogether?
Never heard of unooter and I've been reading theses forums since December. Auto mooter was to root the older firmware 1.0 ,1.01,and 1.1. Manualnooter is for the newer froyo firmware.
Rooting stock is not required to install CM7.
You simply need to create a Clockworkmod recovery microSD card and you can then flash CM7 (which is pre-rooted) from Clockworkmod.
martian21 said:
Rooting stock is not required to install CM7.
You simply need to create a Clockworkmod recovery microSD card and you can then flash CM7 (which is pre-rooted) from Clockworkmod.
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Thanks. I figured this would be relatively easy compared to rooting and putting CM7 on my EVO but reading on here there seemed to be a few different approaches. Will that method allow me to flash CM7 to the eMMC, and after that point will I no longer need the SD card to boot? I ask because I don't have a card on hand and am considering backing up the contents from my phone's card and using that.
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Thanks. I figured this would be relatively easy compared to rooting and putting CM7 on my EVO but reading on here there seemed to be a few different approaches. Will that method allow me to flash CM7 to the eMMC, and after that point will I no longer need the SD card to boot? I ask because I don't have a card on hand and am considering backing up the contents from my phone's card and using that.
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Correct.
You only need the SD to install a bootable CWM then you can flash CM7 from that. After words when CM7 is installed to eMMC you are able to use Rom Manager to install CWM to eMMC as well, so everything will be set up on the device's internal memory. SD is needed only for the initial boot of CWM to install CM7.
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Correct.
You only need the SD to install a bootable CWM then you can flash CM7 from that. After words when CM7 is installed to eMMC you are able to use Rom Manager to install CWM to eMMC as well, so everything will be set up on the device's internal memory. SD is needed only for the initial boot of CWM to install CM7.
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Thanks. From reading around it seems you can't use a phone or the Nook to mount the card and write the image, so I'll have to buy a reader and might as well get a card for the Nook at the same time. Since I'll be flashing CM7 to eMMC does it really matter if I get a class 4 or above card like many suggest? I'm not sure what's in my EVO but that is my benchmark. Class 2 seems to be what comes up in searches the most.
The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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martian21 said:
The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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Transcend 8 GBs have worked beautifully on all 3 NC's in my house.
xdp said:
I just got my Nook Color and am looking into how to go about rooting it for CM7. I checked out CM's Wiki page on it here and it mentioned using uNooter. I haven't read about this tool anywhere else and Google searches for it turn up practically nothing. Is this not the right tool to use? The forums mostly seem to mention ManualNooter, Auto-Nooter, etc. Also is it possible to flash CM7 on the internal memory and avoid using an SD card altogether?
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I was the one that put together uNooter after being contacted by the individual that maintains the CyanogenMod wiki. They wanted a universal Nooter that would only root the device, install Superuser, ADB, RomManger, and work on all versions of the NC software. They asked that it be called uNooter. It is not released anywhere else, so that is why you did not see any mention of it on a Google search.
martian21 said:
The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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That information is really only relevant to running a ROM from the SD card. If you're only using the card for storage, or to get CM7 on eMMC, manufacturer and card class don't matter.
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Thanks. From reading around it seems you can't use a phone or the Nook to mount the card and write the image, so I'll have to buy a reader and might as well get a card for the Nook at the same time. Since I'll be flashing CM7 to eMMC does it really matter if I get a class 4 or above card like many suggest? I'm not sure what's in my EVO but that is my benchmark. Class 2 seems to be what comes up in searches the most.
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I wrote my image over USB to a card in the NC without a card reader. I've seen wiki guides saying there's a greater chance of the write getting interrupted, rendering the card unusable at least in the short term, but it worked for me. It was only when I wanted to revert the card to storage that I ended up needing a card reader. The links in my sig have a little more info about using the NC as your card reader, but you're probably better off just grabbing one.
Also, while CM7 does not require an SD card, many apps do. Your experience will be somewhat limited without one.
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I was the one that put together uNooter after being contacted by the individual that maintains the CyanogenMod wiki. They wanted a universal Nooter that would only root the device, install Superuser, ADB, RomManger, and work on all versions of the NC software. They asked that it be called uNooter. It is not released anywhere else, so that is why you did not see any mention of it on a Google search.
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Great to hear directly from the source, thanks! I'm surprised more people don't point to your tool on the forums given that it's right on the CM Wiki. At this point I'm a little confused about the various approaches to do this. Does your tool install ROM Manager directly into the stock Nook interface, and then I flash from there, versus booting CWM off the SD as people mentioned earlier in the thread? Sorry if that's completely off-base.
Taosaur said:
That information is really only relevant to running a ROM from the SD card. If you're only using the card for storage, or to get CM7 on eMMC, manufacturer and card class don't matter.
I wrote my image over USB to a card in the NC without a card reader. I've seen wiki guides saying there's a greater chance of the write getting interrupted, rendering the card unusable at least in the short term, but it worked for me. It was only when I wanted to revert the card to storage that I ended up needing a card reader. The links in my sig have a little more info about using the NC as your card reader, but you're probably better off just grabbing one.
Also, while CM7 does not require an SD card, many apps do. Your experience will be somewhat limited without one.
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Yeah, I thought about this as well and figured I'd want a full-time card for the device so I ordered a card with SD adapter. I figured the specs didn't matter at all for a data card but picked up a class 4 Sandisk anyway.
xdp said:
Great to hear directly from the source, thanks! I'm surprised more people don't point to your tool on the forums given that it's right on the CM Wiki. At this point I'm a little confused about the various approaches to do this. Does your tool install ROM Manager directly into the stock Nook interface, and then I flash from there, versus booting CWM off the SD as people mentioned earlier in the thread? Sorry if that's completely off-base.
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I received notice this past Monday that the cleaned up version of the CyanogenMod wiki was online, so not a whole lot of exposure for people to talk about it. I believe the old wiki had listed the different Auto-Nooter and Manual-Nooter that went with each software version, thus taking up a lot of space and confusion. AN and MN are more tailored to people that want to stick with the stock software, but enable full Android Market access. People that want to go from stock to CyanogenMod don’t need all the extra software that is bundled with AN and MN just to be able to flash CyanogenMod. By eliminating all the version specific software I was able to create a version that would work on all current, and hopefully future, software versions.
Yes, my versions will install Rom Manager directly into the interface. You would then allow Rom Manger to install CWM Recovery, and then you can download and install CyanogenMod from the device. You could also take a full backup of your current stock rom. Using uNooter or bootable CWM will both get you to where you want to go, it is really up to you on how you want to get there.
Instructions for installing CM7 to the eMMC using CWM on a SD card (which can later be reformatted for storage) is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227.
GMPOWER and bigbob23: Thanks for the info, that was exactly what I needed to clear everything up. I suppose backing up the stock ROM would be useful in case I ever needed to restore it for warranty purposes or anything. I'm not sure which approach I'll go with, my SD card came today so I'll be reading over both techniques and giving one a shot!
Thanks again.
I went through the process with uNooter as outlined on the CM Wiki and it went perfectly. The only thing was I had to use SD Formatter and the earliest 0.1 version of Win32 Disk Imager to get the image to write to the SD card. Not sure if that problem is specific to Win7 64-bit but maybe I can mention it on the wiki.
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I went through the process with uNooter as outlined on the CM Wiki and it went perfectly. The only thing was I had to use SD Formatter and the earliest 0.1 version of Win32 Disk Imager to get the image to write to the SD card. Not sure if that problem is specific to Win7 64-bit but maybe I can mention it on the wiki.
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I am glad that you got everything to work right. I think the problems that you might have experienced are more associated with win7 x64. My replacement laptop with win7 x64 will not be here for another two weeks for me to test it on, but in the past I have had to use Unlocker almost every time to unlock the usb drive before I could proceed with flashing using Win32 disk imager. On my current windows 7 x86 setup, I have yet had to use Unlocker to be able to flash an image with the win32 program. HERE is a post with people having problems in the past with win32 disk imager on win7 x64, they took the same path that you did with Panasonic SD Card Formatter to fix it.
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I guess this worked for the latest firmware of 1.2.0? (I am about to root one soon!) thanks in advance!)
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I guess this worked for the latest firmware of 1.2.0? (I am about to root one soon!) thanks in advance!)
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I just got my nook last week so I'm assuming I had the latest factory firmware when rooting, but I didn't check.
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I just got my nook last week so I'm assuming I had the latest factory firmware when rooting, but I didn't check.
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If you see "Read Forever" when booting (stock) then "Yes" you have the latest firmware.
ADB after uNooter?
Above, GMPOWER mentioned ADB as one of the items uNooter installed. I've rooted with uNooter in part because *nothing* *else* I could find would actually boot on my NC and in part because I liked the idea of a relatively minimal root. I figured I could then push any apk's I wanted to add with adb.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be working. I used "NookColor Tools -> All Settings -> Development" to enable USB debugging, but 'adb devices' shows nothing. If I plug in my G2 with CM7, adb finds it just fine, so I'm pretty sure I've got the computer side of things working. Any hints about getting the NC to play nice?
Hello fellas, so I followed one of Leapinlar's guides on how to install CM11 onto my Nook HD+ 16gb. Everything went great and my Nook has been performing flawlessly all this time. I happen so have two Nook HD+ devices, and now that I know how much better CyanogenMod is compared to the stock OS, I want to install CM11 on the second one as well. I still have the bootable 2GB SD card I used to install CM11 on the Nook (used same card to backup stock B&N OS). At this stage, I plan on using the Nook until it dies on me, gets broken, or stolen. I don't see why I would go back to the stock OS.
1. Could I use the same bootable SD card to install CM11 onto the second Nook? was the serial # or anything of that sort saved onto the SD card making it unique to the device or something?
2. I have already done a Full baseline backup of my Nook on a FAT32-formatted SD card that isn't bootable. Is this backup better than the original bootable backup SD I made originally? Why would I still need the original stock B&N OS backup?
I couldn't find any threads on the subject, so I'm kind of hesitant to try it myself. Don't want to brick the Nook. Maybe one of you has tried it. Well, Happy Holidays to all of you. Thanks for the great forum.
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1. Could I use the same bootable SD card to install CM11 onto the second Nook? was the serial # or anything of that sort saved onto the SD card making it unique to the device or something?
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My understanding is that even bootable variants of CM11 still go to the Nook's internal storage to get device serial #, MAC address, etc. So, one bootable SD card should be portable between devices.
I originally created a bootable SDcard variant of CM11 and liked it so much, that I decided to install it internally. Before I did that, however, I did back up the entire device (in case I decide to sell it). I then (search for the thread) made a bootable SDcard with B&N's OS v2.20. That way, if there's ever a reason you want to go back to the B&N OS, you can.
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Hello fellas, so I followed one of Leapinlar's guides on how to install CM11 onto my Nook HD+ 16gb. Everything went great and my Nook has been performing flawlessly all this time. I happen so have two Nook HD+ devices, and now that I know how much better CyanogenMod is compared to the stock OS, I want to install CM11 on the second one as well. I still have the bootable 2GB SD card I used to install CM11 on the Nook (used same card to backup stock B&N OS). At this stage, I plan on using the Nook until it dies on me, gets broken, or stolen. I don't see why I would go back to the stock OS.
1. Could I use the same bootable SD card to install CM11 onto the second Nook? was the serial # or anything of that sort saved onto the SD card making it unique to the device or something?
2. I have already done a Full baseline backup of my Nook on a FAT32-formatted SD card that isn't bootable. Is this backup better than the original bootable backup SD I made originally? Why would I still need the original stock B&N OS backup?
I couldn't find any threads on the subject, so I'm kind of hesitant to try it myself. Don't want to brick the Nook. Maybe one of you has tried it. Well, Happy Holidays to all of you. Thanks for the great forum.
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Yes the same bootable SD can be used on multiple HD+ devices. But the backup files from the first device should be moved somewhere else since there is not room for two different backups on a 2GB card. And that first backup is unique to that device and should not be used on the second device, but the basic CWM is ok to use.
The original stock backup is useful if you want to go back to the way it was before installing CM. But it is not really necessary since you can flash the stock ROM from my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature (item 6) to get back to original out of the box condition. This might be useful if you need to return the device to B&N under warranty. Having CM installed on it when you return it voids the warranty.
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Yes the same bootable SD can be used on multiple HD+ devices. But the backup files from the first device should be moved somewhere else since there is not room for two different backups on a 2GB card. And that first backup is unique to that device and should not be used on the second device, but the basic CWM is ok to use.
The original stock backup is useful if you want to go back to the way it was before installing CM. But it is not really necessary since you can flash the stock ROM from my HD/HD+ CWM thread linked in my signature (item 6) to get back to original out of the box condition. This might be useful if you need to return the device to B&N under warranty. Having CM installed on it when you return it voids the warranty.
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I'm sorry, one last question. Would it be accurate to say that I can drag and drop the original B&N backup file I have in my 2GB sd card to my computer, zip it, save it, delete it from the sd card, and then do the same process for the second Nook HD+? Zip, save, and delete the original backup. Would the sd card still be bootable to install CM if I were to play around with only the backup and nothing else? DeanGibson and you leapinlar have pretty much answered my question completely. At this point I just want to pick my brain, all of this was pretty interesting. I won't bother you guys with any more questions regarding this subject, so thank you very much for the help.
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I'm sorry, one last question. ...
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Actually, you had two questions ... However, the answer to both is yes.
Merazomo said:
I'm sorry, one last question. Would it be accurate to say that I can drag and drop the original B&N backup file I have in my 2GB sd card to my computer, zip it, save it, delete it from the sd card, and then do the same process for the second Nook HD+? Zip, save, and delete the original backup. Would the sd card still be bootable to install CM if I were to play around with only the backup and nothing else? DeanGibson and you leapinlar have pretty much answered my question completely. At this point I just want to pick my brain, all of this was pretty interesting. I won't bother you guys with any more questions regarding this subject, so thank you very much for the help.
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Yes you can copy the backup files to your PC and delete the originals, but there is no need to zip them since they are already compressed and it is best to leave them native since they need to retain their md5 sums. The card will still be bootable.
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