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New G1 owner. Purchased this:
hxxp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=150522897074&si=ja459pNCCg3NN1jod0njqPzl3JI%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_500wt_1156
No clue what it's running for Recovery though but I'm assuming the CM6 rom comes with one? I'm waiting for a response from the seller.
Now I want to buy a new 32GB Class 6 SDHC card for use with this particular phone. But I've noticed that partitioning the card is an important step during the installation of said ROM? How would I go about partitioning this new card without bricking my phone? I don't need any of the files off the new card since the seller mentioned that he had cleared it. What should I partition the card too? I've heard anywhere from 512MB to 1.5GB?
What are some applications that I should be aware of for this particular ROM? I'm very new to all of this and want to keep the phone running decently well. I've heard something about an application with the ability to run apps off the SD card to preserve memory? Would installing such a program be simple for someone as noobish as me? Or should I keep it simple and just install everything onto the phone?
Ok. Well first off you have a lot of reading to do. Hope you like to read. I can tell you that partitioning your sdcard is done through recovery mode. You need to get in there first. Also cm6 is a rom. It does not come with a recovery. That is totally different. It would be good to know what version you have. I assume amon ra 1.7.0 but it will tell you on the recovery screen. What values you set it to are up to you but you can just leave the values alone when your doing it and it will give you a starting point. The rom will tell you how to save your apps 2 sd. You have to read the first post to find that info out. Good luck and welcome to xda
I was reading this thread [RECOVERY] Monster RootPack 0.7 / Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 SD (1.1 Compatible!). But, since I am new to this forum I couldn't post there. I hope this is the right place to ask for help.
I upgraded my NC to 1.1.0 successfully. I put Autonooter 3.0.0 on a MicroSD card. With my NC off, I inserted the card and then plugged the NC into my PC. I got a black screen for over 5 minutes. It looked like nothing was happening, so, I disconnected the NC, removed the SD card and tired to turn the NC on. No joy, it won't turn on and won't boot at all. I think my Nook is bricked. Any ideas what went wrong?
I've read some other threads about similar problems. It seems there is a fix to get it back to stock (1.1.0). I hope the Recovery thread I mentioned above is where the answer lies. But, I'm a bit confused and don't want to make any more mistakes. I only have one 4GB SD card at my disposal right now.
My questions are as follows:
1. Is my NC bricked beyond hope of recovery?
2. If I follow the procedures in this post can I get it to boot from the sd card even though it won't turn on at all?
3. What is the difference between the Rootpack and the Clockwork Recovery Image?
4. This is the confusing part. Should I download the RootPack? Or, should I download a bootable Clockwork SD card (128mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, 8gb)
5. Since I only have a 4GB card, what should I choose?
6. Should I opt for 1.0.1, or 1.1.0 where it was still working.
7. Can I get all of this on one 4GB card?
8. Is there anything else I should be weary of before starting this procedure?
If i have posted this in the wrong place, I am sorry. But, I hope someone can clear things up for me. Thanks.
This is the right place to ask general questions.
1. Most certainly not.
2. Yes, using a bootable CWR SD is the way to go.
3. Totally different. The Rootpack is the name given to a package that helps you root your Nook. CWR image is a recovery image. That means you can boot to this recovery utility and apply changes to you NC (like repairing stuff, making backups, etc.).
4. An image will adapt to the drive. If you have a 4GB SD and burn (dd) a 1GB image to it, your SD will suddenly present itself as a 1GB SD. If you format it with the right tool, your SD will be 4GB again. So don't panick, if it says 1GB after burning, it's jut "adapted to the image". You haven't lost any disk space.
5. 1GB would be enough, but you can go up to 4GB image with a 4GB.. It could sometimes be a problem to apply an image which is the exact same size as the drive. I would use th 1GB, which is plenty for what you are going to do.
6. That's up to you. Both should work.
7. Yes.
8. Just read threads exhaustively before attempting anything..
So what you need to do is read threads about this CWR Bootable img to learn how to burn it to your SD.
Then, find the appropriate .zip files to flash (apply) (1.1 recovery and 1.0.1 are available in dev section.
Copy them to root of SD.
Boot with the SD Card and apply zip files from SD.
If your NC should still have problems booting, you can also apply a boot repair zip file, that you will find on my Nook Color restore to stock tread in dev..
Sam
His Rootpack wont work on 1.1.0 You should have seen that in his instructions. It will only block 1.1.0 and fake it. You need to see this thread to fix your nook. It is 100% NOT bricked, just messed up atm. You can fix it tho. Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949699
Thanks for thr quick reponse Sam. I'm at work now, but will be able to use your suggestions later this afternoon\tonight. So, if I get a 1gb CWR image on my 4gb sd card, plus the 1.1.0 zip file and put it in the root of the sd card, the Nook should boot up even though I can't turn it on now? How long typacally will it take to boot up? What should I expect to see?
I will post results after I try the procedure. Thanks again!!
Thanks Thiboi69. I have printed out the instructions from the link you sent and will follow them to the T. I'll post results later.
It will work. I have never heard of a 100%bricked NookColor to date. And I have read 1,000's of posts here over the past 4 months. IT is just your boot partition that is messed up and B&N made it check the sdcard first for a Boot partition, then fall back to eMMC. Thank you B&N !!!
I downloaded all the files, wrote them to my sd card, and put it in the Nook. When I connected the Nook to my pc, I got a messaage the the battery was too low to turn on. So, I took the sd card out, and put the Nook on charge. After a while, it turned on, booted up and when I checked my OS, I found that I had
version 1.1.0. Apparently, my attempt to root with autonooter 3, never got installed, partially or completely. And, my battery probably got to low to turn the nook on. So, I didn't need to use CWR after all. I apologize to all who have tried to help me. But, all replies were good and contained useful info.
Now, my question is: Should I try to use Autonooter 3 again, or is there an easier
(more foolproof) way to root v1.1.0?
I just got a nook last night with the sole intention of hacking it - and did so in a matter of minutes. Autonooter couldnt be easier! When you get to the part of putting the SD card in the nook and connecting it to USB to make it boot, just plug it in and go get a cup of coffee. Don't unplug or touch anything until it boots up by itself. At 1st I thought it wasn't doing anything as I didn't see a clockwork mod screen come up or anything, but just be patient and it'll tell you when it's done. Just make sure it's pretty well charged when you do it - mine was about 80% or so.
Honestly after less than a day of the rooted stock 2.1 Eclair OS, I'm ready to drop a fully customized Froyo or Gingerbread image on this thing. Autonooter it 1st and run it for a few days 1st and see what you think. I'm still learning the ins and outs of tinkering with this thing, but so far it seems much easier than the Epic and Moment I've been beating on. Seems pretty well unbrickable too thanks to the boot to SD 1st option B&N baked into this puppy.
jostarr said:
I was reading this thread [RECOVERY] Monster RootPack 0.7 / Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 SD (1.1 Compatible!). But, since I am new to this forum I couldn't post there. I hope this is the right place to ask for help.
I upgraded my NC to 1.1.0 successfully. I put Autonooter 3.0.0 on a MicroSD card. With my NC off, I inserted the card and then plugged the NC into my PC. I got a black screen for over 5 minutes. It looked like nothing was happening, so, I disconnected the NC, removed the SD card and tired to turn the NC on. No joy, it won't turn on and won't boot at all. I think my Nook is bricked. Any ideas what went wrong?
I've read some other threads about similar problems. It seems there is a fix to get it back to stock (1.1.0). I hope the Recovery thread I mentioned above is where the answer lies. But, I'm a bit confused and don't want to make any more mistakes. I only have one 4GB SD card at my disposal right now.
My questions are as follows:
1. Is my NC bricked beyond hope of recovery?
2. If I follow the procedures in this post can I get it to boot from the sd card even though it won't turn on at all?
3. What is the difference between the Rootpack and the Clockwork Recovery Image?
4. This is the confusing part. Should I download the RootPack? Or, should I download a bootable Clockwork SD card (128mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, 8gb)
5. Since I only have a 4GB card, what should I choose?
6. Should I opt for 1.0.1, or 1.1.0 where it was still working.
7. Can I get all of this on one 4GB card?
8. Is there anything else I should be weary of before starting this procedure?
If i have posted this in the wrong place, I am sorry. But, I hope someone can clear things up for me. Thanks.
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Joe, I would recommend downloading the 1gb rootpack image and a restore to stock file. Make your bootable clockwork recovery image, place the resotre to stock file on the sdcard, turn your nook off, insert the sdcard, power on and flash the file. All this info and more can be found in my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949699
Thanks for your suggestion Riley, please take a look at my post # 7 above. Seemd my NC
had a low battery. When I charged it, all was ok. It booted up and I was back in 1.1.0.
But, I just now tried autonooter 3.0.0 again. When I pluged thr NC inyo my PC, I got some sort or warning message. I hit cancel and waited a few minutes. The message came up again. It said the device was not recognized. I unplugged, removed the card, and my fully charged NV won't turn on. And, windows explorer can not read the sd card. This is basically what happened yesterday to cause my panic. The sd card had all the files befor I inserted it into the NC. Now, it's unreadable and I can't turn on or boot the NC again.
Is it autonooter 3.0.0, or the card, or the Nook, or me?????
One correction to post # 10. I can read the sd card in windows explorer. But my NC won't turn on.
With sd card out of the Nook, I get a "Welcome to the Found New Hardware Wizzard"
What does this tell anyone about the condition of my Nook?
I am having a problem and don't really know what to do. When I start my NC its stops at the N screen and goes no further. I've tried a lot of the different ways to get it back to stock with no luck. When I try to write CWM to my SD card with win32 it either doesn't have enough room to put the stock file on the zip with it or when I open the SD card it says the card needs to be formatted. The file is a tr.gz or something like that is there a step between that I am missing or just download the CWM and write to SD using win32? I also tried adb with no luck. I am very new to rooting so any super dumbed down instructions would be greatly appreciated.
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You can put the rom image to a separate SD card. Just swap it after you boot up from cwr. I did it before for flashing froyo to emmc.
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I am having a problem and don't really know what to do. When I start my NC its stops at the N screen and goes no further. I've tried a lot of the different ways to get it back to stock with no luck. When I try to write CWM to my SD card with win32 it either doesn't have enough room to put the stock file on the zip with it or when I open the SD card it says the card needs to be formatted. The file is a tr.gz or something like that is there a step between that I am missing or just download the CWM and write to SD using win32? I also tried adb with no luck. I am very new to rooting so any super dumbed down instructions would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you followed the restore-to-stock procedure outlined in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690
Just a noobish advise!
After configure everything and become accustomed to some of the NC behaviors this should not matter, but I remember at my first attempts at rooting the NC, using a Win7 PC was much easier than using Win XP or iOS devices. Might fix your 'not recognized' problems, sd card recognition and formatting problems etc.
It has CWM on it. I can get it to recovery but it will not recognize the SD or not mount it and I go to mount it in the menu and it says something like can not mount SD card so I have been trying to do the CWM SD burn but I keep getting the above errors I am on a vista computer so I will try it on my windows 7 one and see how that goes. And the different SD card one I will try that as well after work thank you for the help.
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RickOSidhe said:
Have you followed the restore-to-stock procedure outlined in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690
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Yes I did try that one I put the nookie froyo on the SD and put it I'm my turned off NC and plugged it in to my computer and it sat at the N screen forever and after a while I took it off and it was still in the same state could the CWM be the problem?
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I'm not sure what posts 13 thru 18 have to do with my problem???
Just didn't feel like starting a new thread for the couple of questions I had along the same line as yours.
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now I realize I'll prolly get the lynch mob soon after i post this... being that all the research is over in the dev section, but my question is fairly complicated and i cant seem to find a direct answer from my own reading.
now i have root on my NC and i would love to put a custom recovery/rom on my NC. could any one point me in the right direction to get me started loading a custom recovery? i dont want to run froyo off of an SD card i would love to have it just be a giant version of my phone(I'm sorry if that's asking to much)
i learned and pushed myself to do it a while back on my EVO 4g when i saw there was a rom with wimax capability's and that was my first time rooting anything. I do on the other hand work as a sprint instore service and repair tech. so all of this reading isnt completely lost on me.
and my second question. when i booted my nook back up after i let the battery die, all my setting and apps were gone. any one know anything about it?
thank you for any answer, and I'm very sorry about my spelling and grammar, i know it sucks >.<
i think my biggest confusion/hangup so far has been the custom recovery not sure if i have this right or not but. these are the steps (i think) i need to take.
1. aquire root. [check]
2.custom recovery.[?]
3.custom kernel.[?]
4. custom rom.[?]
So what you want to do is flash a custom rom? You would just download a CWM sd card image. Burn that image to your SD card. Then, grab the rom you want, such as nookie-froyo, or whatever. Copy that zip to the SD card.
Put the SD card into your nook, then reboot. It should boot into CWR and from there you can just flash the zip. The same thing with a custom kernel, just copy the zip onto your CWM sd card, reboot, and flash the zip.
I'm not sure if that is what you are asking, though.
I've actually figured it all out finally. is there any way to see what my CPU is running at?
The speed of your NC can be done by downloading 2 free apps in the market:
Linpack for Android
Quadrant Standard
The Linpack app will tell you how many MFLOPS (Millions of Floating Point Operations Per Second) and Quadrant will give you a score to benchmark for CPU, I/O, and graphics. They will also give you as a reference how you compare to other devices.
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So what you want to do is flash a custom rom? You would just download a CWM sd card image. Burn that image to your SD card. Then, grab the rom you want, such as nookie-froyo, or whatever. Copy that zip to the SD card.
Put the SD card into your nook, then reboot. It should boot into CWR and from there you can just flash the zip. The same thing with a custom kernel, just copy the zip onto your CWM sd card, reboot, and flash the zip.
I'm not sure if that is what you are asking, though.
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So I'm new to Nook. In fact it's still being shipped for the wife, lol. Little that she knows, it's getting nootered before it even gets in her hands.
I've rooted phones and flashed custom ROMs.
From what you're saying above, does CWM reside solely on the SD card? That's different than a mobile phone. So any time we need to install a custom ROM (even the first time), we'd have to boot using the SD Card that has CWM, right? Of course I'd have to root the nook first.
following should really go into a different thread:
So whats the best ROM? So many out there. I just want to be able to use all google apps and market (for kindle app).
Thanks in advance.
jackal424 said:
From what you're saying above, does CWM reside solely on the SD card? That's different than a mobile phone. So any time we need to install a custom ROM (even the first time), we'd have to boot using the SD Card that has CWM, right? Of course I'd have to root the nook first.
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You can still install Clockwork from the market and it'll run of the NC without an SD card. I've done it. But for the installation of CM7 (something to do with EXT4? I don't even know what that means...) CWM on an SD was necessary.
On what the best ROM is. Well, looking in the general section subsection here it looks like a lot of people are on rooted stock 1.1. I tried Froyo and it was cool and all, but I missed having the full 8GB of storage on the nook. I haven't tried Honeycomb yet, so no idea on that one. I currently have CM7 nightly 8 on my NC and really like it. I may not have all the storage space still (they're working on it) but it's snappy and sleek.
Hi all,
After reading all the great stuff about the NC recently, CM7, Phiremod and the honeycomb releases Ive convinced a mate of mine in California who's visting the UK to bring me one over to tinker with..
Now.. After doing some research Im overwhelmed with info and thought Id ask for "up to date" pointers..
1. Is there a straightforward guide to rooting and installing the NC, as I live in the UK Im not fussed about the original NC rom. I've seen Cyanogenmods wiki entry http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Barnes_&_Noble_Nook_Color:_Full_Update_Guide is this the best approach?
2. Which rom is best? Plain CM7, Phiremod or Honeycomb as posted by deeper blue?
3. Any other pointers?
Sorry for such basic questions, im just overloaded and not 100% sure which is the best process to take.
thanks all in advance
Angelo
Take a look in the stickies, there are comprehensive guides to root....just make sure you're using the correct version. If your mate is buying a brand new one for you, you'll most likely need the version for rooting with partitions. I have used all 3 of the roms you mentioned and my personal preference is CM. Phiremod is just a heavily themed version of CM and the honeycomb build is ok, but it lacks some features and is still a bit buggy because the source code has not been released for honeycomb
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If you decide on CM7 (which I personally recommend), I would look for "How to Install CynaogenMod 7 on the Nook Color" (can't post links) on YouTube. I personally found it very useful. If something seems off, make sure you look at the description and read some user comments. With the way this guy explains it it's practically idiot proof and it's unlikely you'll mess anything up.
thanks
Thanks Guys,
I've been doing more reading and yeah looks straightforward..
Considering Im not interested in the core B&N OS, I was thinking of installing CM7 to the internal memory and then perhaps installing Honeycomb (deeperblue version) on a memory stick to "play with".
From what I can tell the HC port is nice as a toy but not robust enough considering HC hasnt been released to AOSP.
Makes sense?
If you are looking to 'play with' honeycomb on a MicroSD install, check out http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045018
You get Honeycomb and Phiremod in a dual-boot image tailored for a MicroSD install.
Read through the thread and see if it's to your taste.
For the most usable ROM, go with CM7. Just follow this guide in this post. Very simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post.
After you get this running, you can read up a little more and create a SD card w/ Honeycomb or Phiremod to play around with. But CM7 is the most stable out there (well, I guess Phiremod is good to, because it is a customized CM7).
Good Luck.
Use CM7, it's the best for now.
HC is beauty but still a lot of work to be done.
jasoraso said:
For the most usable ROM, go with CM7. Just follow this guide in this post. Very simple.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post.
After you get this running, you can read up a little more and create a SD card w/ Honeycomb or Phiremod to play around with. But CM7 is the most stable out there (well, I guess Phiremod is good to, because it is a customized CM7).
Good Luck.
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+1 for this guide!
"The only issue is if you have a "blue dot" with the newer partition. Just read the RED text at the beginning of that post."
For some reason I thought that statement was obsoleted, am I wrong?
It was valid if you have v1.2 NC and flashing with CwM Recovery prior to v3.2.xx.
But since the instructions do indicate using v3.2.0.1 CwM, then why care about blue-dot or not since it has been taken care off unless v3.2.x.x not properly does the job.
Maybe because you have a choice in partition schemes?
You really will want to repartition the new nook. 1 gb is a very small partition for your programs. 5gb works much better and the change is fairly painless.
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IFLATLINEI said:
Maybe because you have a choice in partition schemes?
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That's a reasonable reason but again, it shouldn't be highlighted in RED, ORANGE at best
In fact, since it's a choice of good, it should be in GREEN.
thanks guys
Thanks guys, Im in awe with all the feedback and comments this thread is getting..
yes, Ive received the NC today and its charging Also doing loads and loads of reading
My nook does have a bluedot so my partitions are 5gb Data/1Gb Media.
I'll probably leave it like so, considering CWM supports this now its ok, and put most of my media on an external 16gb microsd card..
If Im right I can still install apps into the 5gb partition right?
Also , if I understand it correctly I can actually install CM7 onto a microSD and simply boot from this right ,without rooting/installing CWM... ?
Angelo
asantaga said:
If Im right I can still install apps into the 5gb partition right?
Also , if I understand it correctly I can actually install CM7 onto a microSD and simply boot from this right ,without rooting/installing CWM... ?
Angelo
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You can still install apps into the /data partition but pls note: if your NC isn't rooted, you can only install apps that offered by B&N. You do not have full access of Android Market.
About CM7, yes, you can run CM7 off uSD and not touching the eMMC (aka internal memory) at all. Be considered getting a Sandisk (class 2 or class 4)
B-i-g thanks
All,
BIG Thanks to everyone,
I've successfully (actually flawlessly), repartitioned my nook to the old standard and installed CM7 into the internal memory..
All flawlessly. Also ordered a sandisk 16gb memory card from amazon.co.uk, so that will hold most of the media..
I was considering making the main partition >1Gb (1.9Gb) but decided to leave it as it is for now.. It was so easy yo tweak I thought Id try it vanilla and then grow if I need to..
Awesome-ness
ok wheres my 5gb?
ok got one question now..
/media is supposed to have 5gb available..
CM7 doesnt appear to allow me to use it as a SD card.. but ive found it mounted as /mnt/emmc
How does one use it ??? I tried downloading pdfs and I was told that an SD card was required for this... :-( when i get home I was going to try mounting it via usb to a computer but is that the only way?
There are 2 things you need to know
1. If you're running CM7, you MUST have a uSD. "MUST" does seem to be a strong word but for some reason, that I still try to figure out, an external uSD is required. W/o it, you can still using it but there's some apps won't run if no uSD plugged. It means the NC works 99.9% w/o uSD. I guess I should take the "MUST" back, ehhh
2. If you're running the recently nightly-build CM7, the USB storage utitlity should already be implemented within the ROM. All you need to do is
1. Connect NC and PC via USB cable
2. by this time, the usb indicator should be appeared on the NC, tab on it
3. Tab on Connect USB to transfer .......
4. Turn USB Mass Storage on
5. by this time, PC should recognize the /media on the NOOK
6. do what you want to do
votinh said:
There are 2 things you need to know
1. If you're running CM7, you MUST have a uSD. "MUST" does seem to be a strong word but for some reason, that I still try to figure out, an external uSD is required. W/o it, you can still using it but there's some apps won't run if no uSD plugged. It means the NC works 99.9% w/o uSD. I guess I should take the "MUST" back, ehhh
2. If you're running the recently nightly-build CM7, the USB storage utitlity should already be implemented within the ROM. All you need to do is
1. Connect NC and PC via USB cable
2. by this time, the usb indicator should be appeared on the NC, tab on it
3. Tab on Connect USB to transfer .......
4. Turn USB Mass Storage on
5. by this time, PC should recognize the /media on the NOOK
6. do what you want to do
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Wicked, yeah didnt see the little icon down below
thanks
Hey Angelo, I just wanted to share my experience.
I love gadgets, and tinkering with gadgets. I am an IT manager/minor programmer/webmaster, etc. etc... so no surprise that I feel right at home here BUT, I also love to read and I think that the Nook app for Android is bunk (e.g. "poor") compared to the stock NC experience.
I decided pretty early on that I wanted to keep the NC stock (partially due to warranty) and have a dual boot option for CM7. I had initially installed CM7 on my NC, replacing the stock rom all together. I ended up putting the stock ROM back on.
Here is a post from another thread where I outline that experience...and the guides that I use.
I talk about partitions in that post, since you have a new NC, don't even bother yourself with that...just note the guides there that will get you where you want to go, either way....
asantaga said:
ok got one question now..
/media is supposed to have 5gb available..
CM7 doesnt appear to allow me to use it as a SD card.. but ive found it mounted as /mnt/emmc
How does one use it ??? I tried downloading pdfs and I was told that an SD card was required for this... :-( when i get home I was going to try mounting it via usb to a computer but is that the only way?
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Many (older) apps in on Android are designed to ONLY look for storage called "sdcard". So your 5gb of internal (emmc) called "Media" will not be able to be utilized by those Apps.
Apps that are better programmed and designed can access the memory called "Media".
I bought the original Nook Color back in Nov. 2010. I went through all the methods back in the day, when guys first started rooting the Nook and all the problems we had back then ... side loading apps ... adhoc issues ... B&N updates ect ... we got CWM recoveries and finally we got fully working froyo's and Gingerbread's. Then CM7's and the Phiredrop's.
I been through it all. I ended up giving my Nook to my son, and he loved it. I got into Android Development Cell (ROMS). I Now got my Nook back from my son. It is working, but I have forgotten a lot about how to mod it .... mainly the partition tables, and how the bootloader runs. Does it look to the eMMC first ? or the SD-Card ? Can we flash from both locations ?
Anyways ... He has it setup weird now. It has a dual boot menu, I can boot into CM7 or CM9, But it is acting up and some stuff doesn't work. He also says it can boot into Stock 1.4.2 somehow *shrug*
I have done some searching here on xda but it is a lot of OLD posts and dead links.
Could you guys help me out with a few questions ?
01) I would like to wipe EVERYTHING from eMMC abd SD-Card and start over. I know I can format the uSD and also format the eMMC, but Can I flash a SD with a CWM image and then install Stock 1.4.2 on the eMMC. Do I even need to install stock first ? What is the best method for this ?
02) Will I need to nooter my nook again at this point if I do that ?
03) Can I run CWM on the SD and run a nandroid backup to that same SD if it is a large SD-Card ? I thought I could since the bootloader looks at uSD first (but I guess it looks at the boot partition huh ? ) my son says NO you can not run CWM and have a nandroid backup on that same SD. Yes or No ?
Bottom line is this is what I’m trying to do……
01a) I could care less about stock B&N.
02a) I just want a Nook that will dual boot into CM7 and / or CM9 preferably from my 16 GIG SD-Card but it really doesn’t matter, as long as I can install app’s to the external SD-Card.
03a) I want a way to backup the entire CM7 or CM9 via CWM to my SD-Card.
NOTE: I have a (1) 16 GIG SD-Card (1) 4 GIG SD-Card and (1) 8 GIG SD-Card.
If you could help me out with any info at all on any of this, please do so. I am mostly Android literate and I have a working ADB on my win7. I just have forgotten exactly how the nook operates at the lowest level, and how the newer CM's are flashed now after a clean format
Thank you for your time and help to any of my questions.
Peace
Thibor69 said:
the partition tables, and how the bootloader runs. Does it look to the eMMC first ? or the SD-Card ? Can we flash from both locations ?
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Partition talbes and mount points
The Nook Color boots from uSD first... then eMMC if there is no bootable uSD in the card slot.
Thibor69 said:
I have done some searching here on xda but it is a lot of OLD posts and dead links.
Could you guys help me out with a few questions ?
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Browsing the developer forum would be very beneficial... as there are constantly new posts... so almost all of this is covered in recent posts.
Thibor69 said:
01) I would like to wipe EVERYTHING from eMMC abd SD-Card and start over. I know I can format the uSD and also format the eMMC, but Can I flash a SD with a CWM image and then install Stock 1.4.2 on the eMMC. Do I even need to install stock first ? What is the best method for this ?
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Create a new bootable CWM recovery uSD and place one of the files from here on it.
Boot into CWM and flash the file you downloaded.
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02) Will I need to nooter my nook again at this point if I do that ?
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Only if you want stock to be rooted... not necessary if are going to flash a different ROM to eMMC or don't care about stock root access. If you choose to root stock.... use this thread
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03) Can I run CWM on the SD and run a nandroid backup to that same SD if it is a large SD-Card ? I thought I could since the bootloader looks at uSD first (but I guess it looks at the boot partition huh ? ) my son says NO you can not run CWM and have a nandroid backup on that same SD. Yes or No ?
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Yes.... I do that frequently.. the thing is... the nandroid backup will be of the eMMC unless you use one of the modified CWM's designed for SD installs.
Additionally... if you are going to run that from a uSD with another ROM on it... you will certainly have to adjust the boot partition on the uSD to be large enough to hold the nandroid you are creating.
Thibor69 said:
Bottom line is this is what I’m trying to do……
01a) I could care less about stock B&N.
02a) I just want a Nook that will dual boot into CM7 and / or CM9 preferably from my 16 GIG SD-Card but it really doesn’t matter, as long as I can install app’s to the external SD-Card.
03a) I want a way to backup the entire CM7 or CM9 via CWM to my SD-Card.
NOTE: I have a (1) 16 GIG SD-Card (1) 4 GIG SD-Card and (1) 8 GIG SD-Card.
If you could help me out with any info at all on any of this, please do so. I am mostly Android literate and I have a working ADB on my win7. I just have forgotten exactly how the nook operates at the lowest level, and how the newer CM's are flashed now after a clean format
Thank you for your time and help to any of my questions.
Peace
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Create a new bootable CWM recovery uSD and place one of the files from here on it.
Boot into CWM and flash the file you downloaded.
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So you are saying that I can do it in this order:
1) Format eMMC ( only boot partition right ? )
2) Format uSD ( resize boot partition to a larger size for backups )
3) Create bootable CWM uSB ( any particular one you recommend ? )
4) Put one of the stocks 1.4.x files on the uSB then flash it
5) Put CM7 or CM9 on uSB and flash it
Question: Do I need to flash stock 1.4.x even tho I dont want it ? or can I skip step #4 ?
Thanks
Thibor69 said:
So you are saying that I can do it in this order:
1) Format eMMC ( only boot partition right ? )
2) Format uSD ( resize boot partition to a larger size for backups )
3) Create bootable CWM uSB ( any particular one you recommend ? )
4) Put one of the stocks 1.4.x files on the uSB then flash it
5) Put CM7 or CM9 on uSB and flash it
Question: Do I need to flash stock 1.4.x even tho I dont want it ? or can I skip step #4 ?
Thanks
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Item 1) highly NOT recommended. There is no point to format /boot.
Item 2) if "uSD" means the external microSD card, then, no, you don't need to format it since it will be done in step 3 of your list.
Item 3) Get the CwMR version 3.2.0.1. And call it "flashable CwMR uSD", not uSB.
Item 4) If you don't want stock, leave it out as no point to touch it.
Item 5) After done step 3 above, put CM7 OR CM9 in there, the CwMR uSD, and flash.
Strongly suggestion: before doing anything. Be sure you know what you trying to do or at least, pls let us know what you try to accomplish. For example, do you try to run CM7 or CM9? Do you want to run it from the external uSD card or from eMMC? Instructions are different.
votinh said:
Item 1) highly NOT recommended. There is no point to format /boot.
Item 2) if "uSD" means the external microSD card, then, no, you don't need to format it since it will be done in step 3 of your list.
Item 3) Get the CwMR version 3.2.0.1. And call it "flashable CwMR uSD", not uSB.
Item 4) If you don't want stock, leave it out as no point to touch it.
Item 5) After done step 3 above, put CM7 OR CM9 in there, the CwMR uSD, and flash.
Strongly suggestion: before doing anything. Be sure you know what you trying to do or at least, pls let us know what you try to accomplish. For example, do you try to run CM7 or CM9? Do you want to run it from the external uSD card or from eMMC? Instructions are different.
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Hello -
Thank you for the update info. Glad I asked first. Thank you Dizzy for your help, you have been a big help to me in the past also. Votinh thank you for your reply. Looking back at what I wrote I see many mistakes in my process. Thanks for correcting them.
Now ... as to your question Votinh. What is it I am trying to do.
First off this is what I currently have. Nook is working, but not well and just a mess in general. Sometimes it locks up or just runs at a crawl. ( I have CPU oc'd to 1200 ) I have CM7 and CM9 but can't seem to boot into CM9 anymore at all. I also have CWM v3.2.0.1 installed on my external SD-Card with a nandroid backup.
I just want to erase it all and start over : )
I want my Nook to be able to Dual Boot into CM7 and CM9. I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card, BUT if that is not easy or possible then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external. I dont need stock.
If all else fails ... or just to complicated I could live with just CM9 (nightlies or stable) with all APPS installed to external SD. and forget about dual boot.
Again thank you .... and please ask me any more questions you might need to help clarify my goal.
Peace
Thibor69 said:
Hello -
Thank you for the update info. Glad I asked first. Thank you Dizzy for your help, you have been a big help to me in the past also. Votinh thank you for your reply. Looking back at what I wrote I see many mistakes in my process. Thanks for correcting them.
Now ... as to your question Votinh. What is it I am trying to do.
First off this is what I currently have. Nook is working, but not well and just a mess in general. Sometimes it locks up or just runs at a crawl. ( I have CPU oc'd to 1200 ) I have CM7 and CM9 but can't seem to boot into CM9 anymore at all. I also have CWM v3.2.0.1 installed on my external SD-Card with a nandroid backup.
I just want to erase it all and start over : )
I want my Nook to be able to Dual Boot into CM7 and CM9. I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card, BUT if that is not easy or possible then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external. I dont need stock.
If all else fails ... or just to complicated I could live with just CM9 (nightlies or stable) with all APPS installed to external SD. and forget about dual boot.
Again thank you .... and please ask me any more questions you might need to help clarify my goal.
Peace
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So far, everything you've asked are doable, in fact, a lot of members currently having the same system you describe.
Firstly, "I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card" is called "dual-boot, it is a true dual-boot.
Go thank "racks11479" for his tremendous work
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448186
Note: both CM7 AND CM9 are on the external uSD card.
Secondly, "then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external."; since your wish is granted , this is just an option for you. Yes, you can easily install CM7 in eMMC (aka internal memory) and booting CM9 off uSD as you want.
For references:
Boot CM7/CM9 off uSD, thank verygreen.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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Update from my last link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576879
Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
Wait a minute. Alan Moore doesn't live in Scottsdale!
Whatever. Swamp Thing is awesome. You can live wherever you want
mateorod said:
Wait a minute. Alan Moore doesn't live in Scottsdale!
Whatever. Swamp Thing is awesome. You can live wherever you want
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Wow ... good call brother. Not many people know the face.
Peace
Thibor69 said:
Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
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Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
Mr72 has good instructions for getting 7.2 up and running on eMMC, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292
You'll want to use his directions to load the image found in mrg666's thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
Dalingrins would be redundant as it is already part of this build. You *will* want to run the V6 script as it is well worth it.
Once you've got that going well you should have read around enough to be able to load CM9 nightlies on an SD card. You *do* have a Sandisk card, right?
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Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
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In bold: sure, but what do you try to do? Format the internal so that you can install something else on it?
I currently have CM7.2-RC1 Kang running on eMMC, it is really good.
Booting off uSD is more like for experimental, play it for a while to see if we like it or not. For trying, I recommend using uSD.
I have not spent more time on CM9 since I don't see much of the benefit of it.
Also, MisRy covered pretty well there.
MISRy said:
Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
Mr72 has good instructions for getting 7.2 up and running on eMMC, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292
You'll want to use his directions to load the image found in mrg666's thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
Dalingrins would be redundant as it is already part of this build. You *will* want to run the V6 script as it is well worth it.
Once you've got that going well you should have read around enough to be able to load CM9 nightlies on an SD card. You *do* have a Sandisk card, right?
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Thanks for the info Misry. I have many sd cards and have used them all will good results. My Sandisk is only 4 gig ... so it was not going to be my first choice. I also have a Class 4 8 Gig Kinston I was thinking of using. Or a Class 10 16 Gig Patriot, which I know people dont like, but it seems to work fine in my phones ....?
Magus-
The difference in the SD card class as far as speed comes down to the size of the information we want to write. The lower classes aren't very fast with the large hunks of info, but excel with the tiny byte exchange used in the ROM. As the speed of your system will really be affected by the slow I/O rates of something like a class 10, compromise on size before class. It may be counter intuitive, but people have given up on cyanogen in general only because they had the wrong sdcard. This is especially true if you have a dual boot and are running the ROM off of the sdcard itself.
Look at the "strange results or how I learned to love cm" or something thread. Google that with xda and nook and you'll find it. That has all the info you'd want and way more.
Do another book with Eddie Campbell and we'll call it square. You know you want to.
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Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
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Well I was testing a homemade script and I believe I did in fact format eMMC and either scrambled the boot partition or deleted it also on emmc. No mater what I do I can not get eMMC to boot. I can boot cwm from SD-card, but nothing on eMMC.
Advice ?? please be as technical as needed. I do not have Linux right now, but I do have adb on win7 and 3 sd-cards
THanks
Well, let's see what we're working with...
$ su
# fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0
Post the output of the above. It'll show what partitions are left (if any) and then we can take it from there. This can be a hassle indeed, and it will require some research as I have avoided doing this myself. I am hoping your ROM partition is still intact, at least.
Anybody else who can help, please do. I may not be able to respond as often as I would like.
I was gonna suggest 8+1 to see if we can get back to square one.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor/RestoreToStock
He's gonna need a ROM partition for that to work.
For a long time, 8 failed boots would (as a last resort) result in a working Nook for just about every problem. But, as users are getting more experienced across the board, more advanced and dangerous stuff is being attempted.
When everything goes right, it can be pretty rewarding, but when it goes wrong...well, let's just say the solutions become a lot more advanced as well.
The output of the command will let us know which partitions are erased and if any are still intact. Considering the information we have so far, I am not hopeful. If the emmc was erased and formatted...well, we'll see.
Here's what has occoured:
over-wrote the following partitions with "0":
# 0p7 = /cache
# 0p1 = /boot
# 0p5 = /system
# 0p6 = /data
Then formatted 5-7 ext4. Flashing a ROM with a blank boot partition has been done on another device many times with no issues, for some odd reason this nook responded poorly and I believe the the boot.img never copied over to 0p1.
I am not sure what all he tried but I know he tried the flashable emmc fixer, which didnt' fix it. I am actually concerned that made it worse, but that's my opinion and I don't have my hands on the device. For what ever reason he couldn't get adb working with the device. I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919353
And since ADB wouldn't work, I wrote a script and created a flashable zip for him so it would perform the same operation, but it stopped saying bad zip. He tested it with 7zip and there were no errors, I checked my script and I see no errors in it and yes, I used a proper program for it as well, NotePad++. He's a bit frustrated and sending it to me. I am confident that if none of the things he tried didn't completely scramble the internal partitions that I can get it working. But if anyone has any idea as to why the script would fail, let me know.
Edit: And correct me if I am wrong, but it's the lack of a kernel which caused it to respond so badly. A similar thing happened on our phone but was due to powering off with a blank boot partition (not our noob moment but someone else's), but being that it's a tegra 2 system we have Nvflash and all is easily rectified. My theory is that there's something, most likely memory, which is loaded by the kernel and is required for a recovery to run.
He tried the 8 failed boot and it did bring up something which ended with an error about no boot partition, I'll try to get the picture he showed me later, I need to run off to work right now.
... Nevermind
Волк said:
For what ever reason he couldn't get adb working with the device.
And since ADB wouldn't work...
But if anyone has any idea as to why the script would fail, let me know.
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First, why in heaven's name would you purposely want to write zeros on the boot partition?
Second, adb was not working because there was no kernel or ramdisk on the boot partition since you had him zero it out. Adb needs both.
If he was trying to flash your zip with CWM from a bootable SD card, then the zip needs to be properly signed before CWM will flash it. You can have CWM toggle off that check, but I doubt he did that. Hence the bad zip error.
Also if he has his CM7 SD card still working, he can repair the emmc partitions using the terminal emulator from CM7. All the adb type commands can be run from there.
The boot partition probably needs to be reformated to vfat before it can accept any files from a CWM restore.