New G1 owner. Purchased this:
hxxp://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&rt=nc&nma=true&item=150522897074&si=ja459pNCCg3NN1jod0njqPzl3JI%253D&viewitem=&sspagename=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123#ht_500wt_1156
No clue what it's running for Recovery though but I'm assuming the CM6 rom comes with one? I'm waiting for a response from the seller.
Now I want to buy a new 32GB Class 6 SDHC card for use with this particular phone. But I've noticed that partitioning the card is an important step during the installation of said ROM? How would I go about partitioning this new card without bricking my phone? I don't need any of the files off the new card since the seller mentioned that he had cleared it. What should I partition the card too? I've heard anywhere from 512MB to 1.5GB?
What are some applications that I should be aware of for this particular ROM? I'm very new to all of this and want to keep the phone running decently well. I've heard something about an application with the ability to run apps off the SD card to preserve memory? Would installing such a program be simple for someone as noobish as me? Or should I keep it simple and just install everything onto the phone?
Ok. Well first off you have a lot of reading to do. Hope you like to read. I can tell you that partitioning your sdcard is done through recovery mode. You need to get in there first. Also cm6 is a rom. It does not come with a recovery. That is totally different. It would be good to know what version you have. I assume amon ra 1.7.0 but it will tell you on the recovery screen. What values you set it to are up to you but you can just leave the values alone when your doing it and it will give you a starting point. The rom will tell you how to save your apps 2 sd. You have to read the first post to find that info out. Good luck and welcome to xda
Hey Everyone, first off. I love you all. You've made me LOVE my Vibrant and NookColor more than ever!
I have two questions.. (sry my search on the site wasn't working )
1. I had a 4gb microsd card that I used to put the Autonooter for NC on it. Now I'm seeing alot of updates with froyo and overclocking kernels and I want to try them out. But my 4gb card is frozen solid at 32mb, I tried formating a through windows, I read on another post that I cant find at all that theres a better program out there for fully formatting microsd cards back to the original state.. Does anyone know the program?
2. I've been reading daily on the updates for Froyo, Which one is the current most stable version?
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1. Put the uSD card back into your NC. Under the original (BN) Settings ---> Device Info ---> SD card : first unmount the uSD card, then format it. Then remove from NC.
2. Not my thing, no help, sorry.
Thanks for the help on the SD Card! First step done, alot more to go!
Okay, So I installed Clockwork Recovery and made a backup of my system. After I installed clockwork, My nook froze at boot, I figured out how to get into clockwork recovery and I am currently restoring my eclair.
I see alot of people using froyo, which build and what post did everyone do it from? I see alot of eMMC but I see a Development build.. I'm confused as to which one I should get.
Thanks!
So I finally took the plunge and picked up the Nook color, bought it second hand with HC already on the eMMC so I am not sure exactly how anything was done before. I have been reading the guides and while not completely lost, there's just some things I am unclear of right now.
I installed Rom Manager to install CWR, after installing and flashing it I cant access Recovery, but wasnt sure if it ever worked. Was this the wrong way to go about getting CWR on the unit? I am trying now to boot into a default CWR SD card and run a fix from this thread hoping thats the issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11591197
I dont really have a need for the Stock config so putting everything on eMMC for me sounds ideal and am currently trying to get the dual boot config from here running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959461
Question now is if I get CWR running from the sd card, can i just apply the prep file and load the pre configured installations from that page? Does the dual boot both boot from eMMC? Will I need to format my existing solution to install that setup?
Thanks for any feedback.
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So I finally took the plunge and picked up the Nook color, bought it second hand with HC already on the eMMC so I am not sure exactly how anything was done before. I have been reading the guides and while not completely lost, there's just some things I am unclear of right now.
I installed Rom Manager to install CWR, after installing and flashing it I cant access Recovery, but wasnt sure if it ever worked. Was this the wrong way to go about getting CWR on the unit? I am trying now to boot into a default CWR SD card and run a fix from this thread hoping thats the issue
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11591197
I dont really have a need for the Stock config so putting everything on eMMC for me sounds ideal and am currently trying to get the dual boot config from here running.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=959461
Question now is if I get CWR running from the sd card, can i just apply the prep file and load the pre configured installations from that page? Does the dual boot both boot from eMMC? Will I need to format my existing solution to install that setup?
Thanks for any feedback.
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HC, as far as I know, is the only rom that does not respond well to cwr installed internally (I have had those issues). If you get an sd image of cwr burned, you can add any flashable rom to that same card and flash it in recovery (install zip from sd card). If you want to play with CM7, do a backup of your HC rom from your sd card, do your formats and flash the gb rom. I think in theory, if you wanted cwr installed internally, you can load a cwr zip on your cwr card and flash it. I have not tried to dual boot anything, so can not offer any feedback.
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HC, as far as I know, is the only rom that does not respond well to cwr installed internally (I have had those issues). If you get an sd image of cwr burned, you can add any flashable rom to that same card and flash it in recovery (install zip from sd card). If you want to play with CM7, do a backup of your HC rom from your sd card, do your formats and flash the gb rom. I think in theory, if you wanted cwr installed internally, you can load a cwr zip on your cwr card and flash it. I have not tried to dual boot anything, so can not offer any feedback.
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So I ran the fix permissions and now I can boot into Recovery From Clockwork or boot from the SD card. There are a couple problems, in order to install the dual boot I need to run recovery from the eMMC but that doesnt seem to mount my SD card or I need to adb into the recovery so I can permission something to run, however doesnt seem to have adb running in Recovery and I dont see an option to restart it.
Alright so everything is working, had to format the SD card. Guess CWR SD sets it up as a boot partition so it wasnt mounting, dual booting froyo + HC, just have to figure out the OC kernels now for each.
I've already got my SD card ready to root my nook, and the files are ready to install hc v4 2nd...i can't wait this should hold me over until the 10"ers come down in price
I just got my Nook Color and am looking into how to go about rooting it for CM7. I checked out CM's Wiki page on it here and it mentioned using uNooter. I haven't read about this tool anywhere else and Google searches for it turn up practically nothing. Is this not the right tool to use? The forums mostly seem to mention ManualNooter, Auto-Nooter, etc. Also is it possible to flash CM7 on the internal memory and avoid using an SD card altogether?
Never heard of unooter and I've been reading theses forums since December. Auto mooter was to root the older firmware 1.0 ,1.01,and 1.1. Manualnooter is for the newer froyo firmware.
Rooting stock is not required to install CM7.
You simply need to create a Clockworkmod recovery microSD card and you can then flash CM7 (which is pre-rooted) from Clockworkmod.
martian21 said:
Rooting stock is not required to install CM7.
You simply need to create a Clockworkmod recovery microSD card and you can then flash CM7 (which is pre-rooted) from Clockworkmod.
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Thanks. I figured this would be relatively easy compared to rooting and putting CM7 on my EVO but reading on here there seemed to be a few different approaches. Will that method allow me to flash CM7 to the eMMC, and after that point will I no longer need the SD card to boot? I ask because I don't have a card on hand and am considering backing up the contents from my phone's card and using that.
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Thanks. I figured this would be relatively easy compared to rooting and putting CM7 on my EVO but reading on here there seemed to be a few different approaches. Will that method allow me to flash CM7 to the eMMC, and after that point will I no longer need the SD card to boot? I ask because I don't have a card on hand and am considering backing up the contents from my phone's card and using that.
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Correct.
You only need the SD to install a bootable CWM then you can flash CM7 from that. After words when CM7 is installed to eMMC you are able to use Rom Manager to install CWM to eMMC as well, so everything will be set up on the device's internal memory. SD is needed only for the initial boot of CWM to install CM7.
Nburnes said:
Correct.
You only need the SD to install a bootable CWM then you can flash CM7 from that. After words when CM7 is installed to eMMC you are able to use Rom Manager to install CWM to eMMC as well, so everything will be set up on the device's internal memory. SD is needed only for the initial boot of CWM to install CM7.
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Thanks. From reading around it seems you can't use a phone or the Nook to mount the card and write the image, so I'll have to buy a reader and might as well get a card for the Nook at the same time. Since I'll be flashing CM7 to eMMC does it really matter if I get a class 4 or above card like many suggest? I'm not sure what's in my EVO but that is my benchmark. Class 2 seems to be what comes up in searches the most.
The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
Sent from my NookColor using XDA App
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Transcend 8 GBs have worked beautifully on all 3 NC's in my house.
xdp said:
I just got my Nook Color and am looking into how to go about rooting it for CM7. I checked out CM's Wiki page on it here and it mentioned using uNooter. I haven't read about this tool anywhere else and Google searches for it turn up practically nothing. Is this not the right tool to use? The forums mostly seem to mention ManualNooter, Auto-Nooter, etc. Also is it possible to flash CM7 on the internal memory and avoid using an SD card altogether?
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I was the one that put together uNooter after being contacted by the individual that maintains the CyanogenMod wiki. They wanted a universal Nooter that would only root the device, install Superuser, ADB, RomManger, and work on all versions of the NC software. They asked that it be called uNooter. It is not released anywhere else, so that is why you did not see any mention of it on a Google search.
martian21 said:
The general consensus it's to stick with Sandisk SD cards for the Nook. There are others that work as well but Sandisk it's pretty much a guarantee of zero issues. You can usually score an 8 GB class 4 Sandisk at Wal-mart for a Jackson.
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That information is really only relevant to running a ROM from the SD card. If you're only using the card for storage, or to get CM7 on eMMC, manufacturer and card class don't matter.
xdp said:
Thanks. From reading around it seems you can't use a phone or the Nook to mount the card and write the image, so I'll have to buy a reader and might as well get a card for the Nook at the same time. Since I'll be flashing CM7 to eMMC does it really matter if I get a class 4 or above card like many suggest? I'm not sure what's in my EVO but that is my benchmark. Class 2 seems to be what comes up in searches the most.
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I wrote my image over USB to a card in the NC without a card reader. I've seen wiki guides saying there's a greater chance of the write getting interrupted, rendering the card unusable at least in the short term, but it worked for me. It was only when I wanted to revert the card to storage that I ended up needing a card reader. The links in my sig have a little more info about using the NC as your card reader, but you're probably better off just grabbing one.
Also, while CM7 does not require an SD card, many apps do. Your experience will be somewhat limited without one.
GMPOWER said:
I was the one that put together uNooter after being contacted by the individual that maintains the CyanogenMod wiki. They wanted a universal Nooter that would only root the device, install Superuser, ADB, RomManger, and work on all versions of the NC software. They asked that it be called uNooter. It is not released anywhere else, so that is why you did not see any mention of it on a Google search.
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Great to hear directly from the source, thanks! I'm surprised more people don't point to your tool on the forums given that it's right on the CM Wiki. At this point I'm a little confused about the various approaches to do this. Does your tool install ROM Manager directly into the stock Nook interface, and then I flash from there, versus booting CWM off the SD as people mentioned earlier in the thread? Sorry if that's completely off-base.
Taosaur said:
That information is really only relevant to running a ROM from the SD card. If you're only using the card for storage, or to get CM7 on eMMC, manufacturer and card class don't matter.
I wrote my image over USB to a card in the NC without a card reader. I've seen wiki guides saying there's a greater chance of the write getting interrupted, rendering the card unusable at least in the short term, but it worked for me. It was only when I wanted to revert the card to storage that I ended up needing a card reader. The links in my sig have a little more info about using the NC as your card reader, but you're probably better off just grabbing one.
Also, while CM7 does not require an SD card, many apps do. Your experience will be somewhat limited without one.
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Yeah, I thought about this as well and figured I'd want a full-time card for the device so I ordered a card with SD adapter. I figured the specs didn't matter at all for a data card but picked up a class 4 Sandisk anyway.
xdp said:
Great to hear directly from the source, thanks! I'm surprised more people don't point to your tool on the forums given that it's right on the CM Wiki. At this point I'm a little confused about the various approaches to do this. Does your tool install ROM Manager directly into the stock Nook interface, and then I flash from there, versus booting CWM off the SD as people mentioned earlier in the thread? Sorry if that's completely off-base.
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I received notice this past Monday that the cleaned up version of the CyanogenMod wiki was online, so not a whole lot of exposure for people to talk about it. I believe the old wiki had listed the different Auto-Nooter and Manual-Nooter that went with each software version, thus taking up a lot of space and confusion. AN and MN are more tailored to people that want to stick with the stock software, but enable full Android Market access. People that want to go from stock to CyanogenMod don’t need all the extra software that is bundled with AN and MN just to be able to flash CyanogenMod. By eliminating all the version specific software I was able to create a version that would work on all current, and hopefully future, software versions.
Yes, my versions will install Rom Manager directly into the interface. You would then allow Rom Manger to install CWM Recovery, and then you can download and install CyanogenMod from the device. You could also take a full backup of your current stock rom. Using uNooter or bootable CWM will both get you to where you want to go, it is really up to you on how you want to get there.
Instructions for installing CM7 to the eMMC using CWM on a SD card (which can later be reformatted for storage) is in this thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227.
GMPOWER and bigbob23: Thanks for the info, that was exactly what I needed to clear everything up. I suppose backing up the stock ROM would be useful in case I ever needed to restore it for warranty purposes or anything. I'm not sure which approach I'll go with, my SD card came today so I'll be reading over both techniques and giving one a shot!
Thanks again.
I went through the process with uNooter as outlined on the CM Wiki and it went perfectly. The only thing was I had to use SD Formatter and the earliest 0.1 version of Win32 Disk Imager to get the image to write to the SD card. Not sure if that problem is specific to Win7 64-bit but maybe I can mention it on the wiki.
xdp said:
I went through the process with uNooter as outlined on the CM Wiki and it went perfectly. The only thing was I had to use SD Formatter and the earliest 0.1 version of Win32 Disk Imager to get the image to write to the SD card. Not sure if that problem is specific to Win7 64-bit but maybe I can mention it on the wiki.
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I am glad that you got everything to work right. I think the problems that you might have experienced are more associated with win7 x64. My replacement laptop with win7 x64 will not be here for another two weeks for me to test it on, but in the past I have had to use Unlocker almost every time to unlock the usb drive before I could proceed with flashing using Win32 disk imager. On my current windows 7 x86 setup, I have yet had to use Unlocker to be able to flash an image with the win32 program. HERE is a post with people having problems in the past with win32 disk imager on win7 x64, they took the same path that you did with Panasonic SD Card Formatter to fix it.
uNooter
I guess this worked for the latest firmware of 1.2.0? (I am about to root one soon!) thanks in advance!)
AF9210 said:
I guess this worked for the latest firmware of 1.2.0? (I am about to root one soon!) thanks in advance!)
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I just got my nook last week so I'm assuming I had the latest factory firmware when rooting, but I didn't check.
xdp said:
I just got my nook last week so I'm assuming I had the latest factory firmware when rooting, but I didn't check.
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If you see "Read Forever" when booting (stock) then "Yes" you have the latest firmware.
ADB after uNooter?
Above, GMPOWER mentioned ADB as one of the items uNooter installed. I've rooted with uNooter in part because *nothing* *else* I could find would actually boot on my NC and in part because I liked the idea of a relatively minimal root. I figured I could then push any apk's I wanted to add with adb.
Unfortunately, that doesn't seem to be working. I used "NookColor Tools -> All Settings -> Development" to enable USB debugging, but 'adb devices' shows nothing. If I plug in my G2 with CM7, adb finds it just fine, so I'm pretty sure I've got the computer side of things working. Any hints about getting the NC to play nice?
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
2) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
2a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
santinod15 said:
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
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CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
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You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
3) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
3a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
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Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
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It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
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Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
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The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
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LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
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leapinlar said:
CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
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THANK YOU.. so much answered for me