Hello all,
I have a rooted NC running 2.1 off internal. I am interested in overclocking it (as this was not part of the original 'rooting' process. I was thinking about going to Froyo (2.2) or HC, but I like the stability of 2.1. I guess I have two questions. 1) Stability of 2.2? Is it stable enough for daily use? If so, does this require a complete restore to stock and re-root? 2) If I want to overclock it (using the procedures listed in another thread) do I have to re-root as well as the kernel is different? You can probably see where I am headed with this. If 2.2 is stable enough, and if overclocking requires a rebuild anyway, does it make sense to just go ahead and step up to 2.2 then follow the directions to OC it.
Hope this makes sense and I look forward to hearing your advice....
I can't answer all your questions, but have experience in one area.
I rooted with autonooter and have stuck with 2.1 eclair. I think I'm going to stick with it until a daily driver HC comes out.
I just flashed a 1ghz kernel with CWR. It took all of 30 seconds, works perfectly so far, and is noticeably faster.
Quadrant scores right at 1100 with setcpu running on performance.
As much as I brought his nook to experiment with, I do want to use it daily and not be constantly fixing it.
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Sorry for the stupid follow up question. So you can flash just the kernel without having to install from scratch?
macrobber said:
Sorry for the stupid follow up question. So you can flash just the kernel without having to install from scratch?
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That is correct.
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I have the samsung captivate at 2.1 and it is rooted and has sideloading enabled where I can install non-market apps from my usb card. I want to update to Froyo 2.2. I have been reading but getting different answers about rooting and sideloading Froto 2.2 original leak. Also I have backed up my phone.
1.Can Froyo 2.2 original leak be rooted and sideloaded with this file?(superoneclickv1.5.4)
2.Is this the file for the original Froyo 2.2?(I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears)
I want to say this is my first android phone and these things are nice. I used to only use windows mobile phones, but now...... hello android.
I would like to say thank you to all the people for the guides and help that make it possible for me to play with this fun phone.
bama9393 said:
I have the samsung captivate at 2.1 and it is rooted and has sideloading enabled where I can install non-market apps from my usb card. I want to update to Froyo 2.2. I have been reading but getting different answers about rooting and sideloading Froto 2.2 original leak. Also I have backed up my phone.
1.Can Froyo 2.2 original leak be rooted and sideloaded with this file?(superoneclickv1.5.4)
2.Is this the file for the original Froyo 2.2?(I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears)
I want to say this is my first android phone and these things are nice. I used to only use windows mobile phones, but now...... hello android.
I would like to say thank you to all the people for the guides and help that make it possible for me to play with this fun phone.
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To be honest, I think the latest cognition ROM is way better than the leaked froyo. Faster, smoother, just better. And cognition of course has sideloading enabled.
Coginition question?
I read a little about the coginition roms. They seem really nice but could you answer a few questions.
1.Can you start out with the lastest rom first?
2.I read that it is really hard to go back to your original flash enev if you have a backup.(I did make a backup.)
3.I am not being a smartass but, could you please answer my first questions in my first post please.
Thank you for replying so fast.
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I read a little about the coginition roms. They seem really nice but could you answer a few questions.
1.Can you start out with the lastest rom first?
2.I read that it is really hard to go back to your original flash enev if you have a backup.(I did make a backup.)
3.I am not being a smartass but, could you please answer my first questions in my first post please.
Thank you for replying so fast.
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If you update to the latest Cognition roms,you wouln't even have to root and enable side-loading.Everything is already built in.
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2.Is this the file for the original Froyo 2.2?(I897UCJI6-OCD-REV02-Low-designgears)
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Yes that is the leaked JI6 Froyo firmware, and is also one click odin.
Thank you
Thank you for answering my question.
If i was you I would leave 2.1 and add side loading, lagfix remove blootware and you got a pretty good set up, I have flashed most of the Roms here and I wont say with one is the best becouse each one has it flaws and I think just the leaked Frito has the most bugs tho design gears is basing his cog on it so he fixes stuff as he goes
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max208x
Thank you for your reply. Which lagfix would you recommend?
What is this? It's an experimental ROM install setup that avoids the use of RFS entirely. The install basically pre-voodoo's your phone. If you know you want voodoo, this is faster than installing then doing voodoo, but it's a little more complicated. Not much, but be warned. It avoids the use of RFS durring install completely, so no RFS corruption to worry about.
The ROM itself is mostly untouched. The kernel is my Dragon Kernel, i9k based, so it will eat your battery (froyo only, eclair is better as we have source). I can get about 12 hours out of it. Buy a charger.
The new version is a 1-click install. It installs the kernel, reboots into it, then auto-installs the ROM. I tested it coming from JFD without issues.
These are based on voodoo5 beta code. Curio is releasing voodoo5 stable here soon, and I'll post an updated no-wipe kernel flash for that.
The ROMS are Team Whiskey Obsidian, Onyx, and Fusion. I changed the install procedure and the kernel out, the rest is as they made it. I take no credit for the ROM. Please post bugs here however, so I can make sure they are ROM bugs before letting TW know about them. I'm running the Onyx version as my daily driver. There has been some private beta testing, and they seem stable, but do have Odin handy just in case. I have installed over the top of various ROMs, but the safest way is probably to come from JFD just to be sure.
ALL THESE ROMS WIPE. NO, I WON'T CHANGE THAT.
Obsidian V5b: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Obsidian-Installer-v1.0.zip
Onyx 4.2: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Onyx-Installer-v1.0.zip
Fusion Final: http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Fusion-Installer-v1.0.zip
NOTE: THESE INSTALL VOODOO. ALL THE USUAL VOODOO PRECAUTIONS APPLY, IF FLASHING SOMETHING, DISABLE IT FIRST.
The latest voodoo stuff seems to play nicer and I have flashed things from clockwork without bricking, but just be warned.
Updates:
Kernel with the stable voodoo5 release. Should work with any froyo ROM, does not wipe.
http://www.tabbal.net/files/Dragon-Kernel-Voodoo-v2.0.zip
I can conform that these are indeed working. And they work beautifully. I'm evening thinking about going back to some voodoo love.
Love your work ttabbal.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
Hmmm...cool. Might have to try this with Axura 2.1.
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I can conform that these are indeed working. And they work beautifully. I'm evening thinking about going back to some voodoo love.
Love your work ttabbal.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
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Curious! So what's the true (RFS free) Quadrant score for Vibrant?
Can we have just a kernel flash that will convert all the partitions? supercurio's i9000 flash doesn't wipe the data, it simply tars it and then untars it back once the conversion is done to each partition. Thanks for the hard work.
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Can we have just a kernel flash that will convert all the partitions? supercurio's i9000 flash doesn't wipe the data, it simply tars it and then untars it back once the conversion is done to each partition. Thanks for the hard work.
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The post is about the ROMs, but yes, the kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
It's the custom kernel I reference in the OP. If you want more than about 12 hours off charger, don't install it. I'm going to look at Eugene's recently posted source to see if I can implement whatever he did to get the kernel sleeping better, but no promises. And reports are kind of mixed last time I looked at it anyway.
When Samsung gets around to releasing source, we can do better. Till then, give me a patch or don't complain about it.
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The kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
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Nice. I'll hold off trying this with Axura 2.1 until this posted, then. A battery life of 12 hours is fine in exchange for what Voodoo will provide in return.
ttabbal said:
The post is about the ROMs, but yes, the kernel update I'm about to post will convert an existing system to ext4 on reboot with the just released voodoo5 stable code.
It's the custom kernel I reference in the OP. If you want more than about 12 hours off charger, don't install it. I'm going to look at Eugene's recently posted source to see if I can implement whatever he did to get the kernel sleeping better, but no promises. And reports are kind of mixed last time I looked at it anyway.
When Samsung gets around to releasing source, we can do better. Till then, give me a patch or don't complain about it.
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Sweet, thank you.
i flashed this on obsidian v5 beta w/ jk6 modem and it running like a champ. however, you were right about the battery life
thanks for posting it before hand. i appreciated.
Love the new kernel would u consider an overlook version? Eugene 1256 is so snappy but it corrupts data. That speed plus voodoo is crazy fast. Real 2000 + quadrant.
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Froyo Kernel on Eclair?
ttabbal,
I did not know that a Froyo kernel could be backward compatible to Eclair. Is that the case, given that your Dragon 2.0 incorporating Voodoo 5 Stable will work with Bionix Fusion?
Please help me to understand this.
More to the point, I am on Bionix 1.9.1. Would Dragon 2.0 w/Voodoo 5 Stable work on my setup?
Thanks,
Bruce
Would love to use this, however i cant seem to get anything to install from the market no matter what i do. My TitaniumBackup restores just fine(apps only). Ive ODIN'd back to JFD twice but still nada. Ill try starting from JI6 and see if it helps.
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Curious! So what's the true (RFS free) Quadrant score for Vibrant?
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So I'm running ttabbal's latest kernel, 2.0, and just ran a quadrant. It gets 1564 as the score. Now, this isn't just from voodoo alone, he's done a few speed tweaked which will bump up the score. But it's snappy as hell.
"if you amplify everything, nothing is heard"
Just put this in my phone and its works fine I'm running axura 2.1 works fine but u will see a second boot up screen the benchmark test is not that high I got in the 2500 with the oclf inthe market download but can't do that one anymore it tells me I have one installed already but over all its smooth
Don't worry about benchmarks, they are easy to fool in a high level system like Android. Cyanogen managed to get something stupid like 10k out of Quadrant.
This setup isn't for being a benchmark queen. It's targeted at a couple things I deem important. Multitasking smoothness/performance, and a test of direct-to-ext4 install. The no-wipe voodoo kernel is really intended to be used as part of the whole, but like I said, it should work with any froyo. Note: NOT ECLAIR. If there is more demand for an eclair version, I'll consider updating my eclair ramdisk as well.
As for the market, couldn't say. It's NOT the rom/kernel though. The market is a finicky thing and sometimes just doesn't work. It's usually the server side or the app itself that has an issue though. There's also an update to Market for Froyo, it seems to be more stable. You should get it downloaded automatically after running for a while. To check, look at an app description, you should have a new tab "Related".
When I've had market problems, I fire up my Wife's G2 on a stock rom (not even root) and she does too, so it's not anything I, or anyone other than Google, can control.
Does anyone know whether the Dragon Kernel that works with any Froyo ROM available from the OP supports use of a BootAnimation.zip?
UPDATE: Thanks geoffcorey for the info!
Tried on Axura 2.1 with larger nand. Flashed, rebooted, converted with no issues and is running very well so far. Haven't been successful getting Voodoo to run before now.
Thanks to TW, ttabbal, Supercurio, et al.
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Does anyone know whether the Dragon Kernel that works with any Froyo ROM available from the OP supports use of a BootAnimation.zip?
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yes, it supports bootanimation.zip
So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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I did this very thing in my post #16 above yours. Go for it! Remove any other lag fixes you may have though. I had none installed so I didn't have to do that. PERFORM A NANDROID backup and optionally copy to a computer before flashing the kernel to be safe. Restoring the Nandroid backup won't restore the kernel though.
The dangers are minimal if you backup. Permanently bricking the phone is unlikely. You may soft brick but you probably won't. PLUG IN AND DON'T TURN OFF THE PHONE UNTIL THE "TW" LOGO DISAPPEARS! Around this time, you will hear a voice say voodoo has been activated.
I believe the conversion process may attempt to revert the changes it tried to make in the event of an unsuccessful conversion. If reversion is successful then you should again have access to CWM to flash back to any rom you have stored on your phone. Use nandroid to restore your data and your back to normal.
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So I can flash this kernel over my setup on Axura 2.1 and it'll move everything over? What are the dangers? If for some reason it didn't boot up is there a way to recover without Odin?
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Heimdall... Um if you cant get into download mode perhaps you shouldn't flash experimental things.
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Hello everyone. Yes I know everyone is saying "oh god not another random shutdown thread!" Hehe but believe me I am not one of those that goes on here and just decide to post up a thread and not do any researching! I have been diggin my freaking eyeballs out by staring at over 50 plus pages of forums on here and on google! So far no answers
I believe the problem started ever since I upgraded to the leaked Froyo 2.2 of designgears and rooted it. So far I have not installed any apps such as task killer or anything that could cause this problem. I found out this morning by waking up and my phone is not on after charging it. Alot of people state they are fine with the leaked 2.2 and that it is not froyo thats doing this but then a lot of people also said that the leaked froyo 2.2 has a problem with the power management and is a bug.
I am literally about to go blind if I keep on reading any more threads, well not blind but will get a horrible migraine headache. Now can someone point me to the right direction to what I need to do?
Should I restore back to 2.1 eclaire using Odin's one click method and then do the over the air update from att? Would that fix the problem or do I need to return the phone, which is unlikely because no one is claiming it's the phone. Plus I just literally got the phone like a week ago brand new.
Please help me out and other newcommers to the android scenes Thank you for your time!!
This is a known issue with his oc/uv versions. You can flash back to stock using the One Click Odin and the try one of the non-oc/uv versions to see if you have any better luck.
I'm on the non-oc version of Perception 8 and do not have the charging death trouble.
Thank you very much for this reply. What is oc/uv version mean? Can you elaborate more on it? I will try to revert back to stock 2.1 eclaire but I really want to have the froyo on this phone cause I heard it's much much better?!? Will Perception 8 do that or is it just a simple theme/UI change? I was going to try digigaff's rom and the cognition rom but will that make my phone a froyo or it's still a eclaire?
Oh btw, I also read that you have to use odin to flash to stock rom to use those, does that mean I have to flash back to 2.1 anyways since froyo is not supported?
Edit 1: This is the digigaff rom that I was talking bout, but I noticed he mentioned it being oc also, which I think isn't good to do on these phones bc of the back being metal and gets hot?
oc = overclocked
uv = under volted
No I wouldn't think overclocking would be a great idea. I mean, what kind of applications are you running? It's not like we're trying to solve world hunger or launch the next rocket into orbit. Applications run just fine @ 1ghz. Anyone that tells you any different is probably running an application that is poorly coded.
Perception is based on a Bell (Canadian) I9000 Froyo Rom. Cognition is a great way to get Froyo on your phone as it is way more user friendly. I started with the Cognition roms when I started my flashing.
Just remember to read as much as you can about the rom you want to use, have backups of applications and data (most use Titanium Backup) to restore (not system data as this will cause problems) after you flash and have a good plan on how to recover when something goes wrong. We've all had to flash to stock and start over again at least once.
Good luck and welcome to the forums!
I see so perception is build on the froyo core, but I have to make sure I have to flash back to eclaire 2.1 before flashing back again to the perception? So the leaked 2.2 froyo on this site as well as all the other sites are a result of a oc/uv "beta'' copy and not like a official release?
did you check out digigaff's rom to see if it's ok to use for the captivate or would that rom oc it?
Okay, so I've done rooting my Cappy with ECLAIR.UCJH7 update. I've also done with the lag fix from the Market. Now, what I want is to flash a new Rom. I'm somehow caught up in the middle of Cognition and Perception, I don't know which one do I use. Can you help me out? And if possible, steps on how to apply/flash it. Do I need to restore my phone to default? Thanks and sorry for too many questions.
first thing you do is get rid of that oclf. It uses a dangerous method to make the phone APPEAR faster in a quadrant test...without ANY real world improvement. Cognition is the most popular, closest to stock build. check it out here. My preference is the leaked froyo with a few tweaks heres a look at cognition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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first thing you do is get rid of that oclf. It uses a dangerous method to make the phone APPEAR faster in a quadrant test...without ANY real world improvement. Cognition is the most popular, closest to stock build. check it out here. My preference is the leaked froyo with a few tweaks heres a look at cognition http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=786532
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So you would recommend Cognition instead of Perception? I've read somewhere that there are lots of bug on the cognition. You think I should remove the lag fix?
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Ryans oclf=REMOVE NOW! The latest version (2.3 beta 8) of cognition Is built using a kernel as close to stock as possible as i understand. It also comes with the voodoo lag fix. Voodoo is a legitimate file system restructure that produces elevated quadrant scores AND real world results http://project-voodoo.org/lagfix this comes with the latest version of cognition in the link i sent you
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Ryans oclf=REMOVE NOW! The latest version (2.3 beta 8) of cognition Is built using a kernel as close to stock as possible as i understand. It also comes with the voodoo lag fix. Voodoo is a legitimate file system restructure that produces elevated quadrant scores AND real world re this comes with the latest version of cognition in the link i sent you
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Okay. I think I'm gonna remove the lagfix later and I'll try to flash that Cognition rom. Can you give me any steps or tips so I can do it safely?
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For cognition i cant say for sure. there should be instructions on the link i sent to you. I flashed the initial 2.2 froyo rom....i dont want to give you any false information.
You're using a Froyo rom? But have you tried cognition before?
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cognition is built using the froyo rom as a base....ive never used cognition...only hear good remarks about its latest version. this is what i run http://www.talkandroid.com/16117-official-android-2-2-build-for-the-samsung-captivate-leaks/ keep in mind that if you install this your bluetooth will not work properly. to me i dont use bluetooth so it doesnt matter to me
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cognition is built using the froyo rom as a base....ive never used cognition...only hear good remarks about its latest version. this is what i run keep in mind that if you install this your bluetooth will not work properly. to me i dont use bluetooth so it doesnt matter to me
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Hmm. So the bluetooth will not properly work when I flash the rom that you use? And is it okay to flash the cognition when I'm on the updated ECLAIR? The UCJH7 one..
Correct. Bluetooth will NOT work. Its recommended to flash back to stock..although im not sure if its required in your case...this may help http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=884364
First post, so take it with a grain of noobness.
I would like to get my feet wet in the rooted phone arena by using Voodoo, but I don't see that it has been updated for the Cappy running stock/ ATT Froyo. I see some stuff on the I9000, though, but I'm not sure if that will work, and the information seems somewhat dated.
So a few questions: is there another lagfix I can try that doesn't involve flashing a ROM?
Can I use Voodoo lagfix on my 2.2 Froyo phone?
Should I just nut up and do some more homework and flash to one of the latest ROM's?
You should definitely read more. There are dated kernels for 2.2 that will have lag fixes implemented that you could use, although I would suggest roms.
but reading its best
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First post, so take it with a grain of noobness.
I would like to get my feet wet in the rooted phone arena by using Voodoo, but I don't see that it has been updated for the Cappy running stock/ ATT Froyo. I see some stuff on the I9000, though, but I'm not sure if that will work, and the information seems somewhat dated.
So a few questions: is there another lagfix I can try that doesn't involve flashing a ROM?
Can I use Voodoo lagfix on my 2.2 Froyo phone?
Should I just nut up and do some more homework and flash to one of the latest ROM's?
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Well, If you like Froyo, forget about stock froyo and flash a custom ROM. Cognition is good. Plus the froyo custom ROMS are easier than most to flash. If you are a noob, this is where you should start. just make sure you READ TONS about flashing before you flash the first time. Good luck!
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Well, If you like Froyo, forget about stock froyo and flash a custom ROM. Cognition is good. Plus the froyo custom ROMS are easier than most to flash. If you are a noob, this is where you should start. just make sure you READ TONS about flashing before you flash the first time. Good luck!
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I run the latest froyo version of Cognition and absolutely love it. Ive run into small issues with just about every other rom ive ever flashed but with cognition I dont even run into the casual force close. Its just smooth as butter. I would highly suggest flashing an entire rom as typically the kernel is made to work directly alongside that particular rom.
Read up first though or your going to end up with a pretty little paper weight.
Lagfix on stock is stupid.
Reading and comprehension are the best but consider, when you've picked out a rom youtube it and see if an instructional video has been made on how to flash and watch it, twice if need be. I only recommend these because , being a noob( I speak from being one ) you don't know the time frame between steps, and if it sets on one for a few minutes well..it can be a little un-nerving ,anyway ,custom is the only way to go,.
well it would be different if he asked for 2.3.3 lagfix..