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Is it necessary ODIN when going between ROM's instead of JH7_OTA ROM??

Scenario:
- I'm running Phoenix 4 ROM
- I want to try another ROM
- I have a copy of the JH7_OTA-1.zip
Can I just use ClockworkMod Recovery to flash the JH7_OTA ROM, then do a master clear from the phone and then apply any ROM I want?
Would that not accomplish the same thing as putting the phone in download mode and doing a stock restore via ODIN, followed by a Master Clear, and then flashing any ROM?
Can someone clear this up for me because it seems that both methods accomplish the same thing. They restore your phone to factory stock ROM as it's suggested by majority of the ROM before applying them.
Thanks

You can go from one rom to another without flashing stock.
I just went from doc jpy base to andromeda armani base. All I did was disable lag fix and kernel tweaks then flashed
I did so knowing I had odin just in case

What mcord11758 said except you don't actually need to disable anything. Just flash.

So that's the confusing part because:
Cognition ROM used to saynow there is just a DL link)
"flash back to I897UCJF6 (Recommended)"
and
How to flash PHOENIX Roms:
"1. BACK UP!!!
2. Use Odin One click to Flash Stock
2a. Wait for it to reboot and then re-enable debugging, hook phone back up to pc and Master Clear"
I got the concept that if running any lagfix it's best to disable it when updating the same ROM to a newer version but when doing a factory ROM it wipes out the ROM contents including the file-system format be it EXT4/EXT3 back to the Samsung RFS.
I would love to hear from one of the developers but I couldn't ask this question in the Dev Forum due too my n00b posting status.
Thanks for anyone who takes the time to provide some insight.

Phoenix and cognition both use ext 4 filing and the clockwork recovery built in understand it.
You have no less risk flashing jh7. in essence you are doing the same thing
flashing stock was more necessary when recovery could not understand ext 4. Today you can change to three different kernels in one day without ever disabling a lagfix

Vezee said:
I got the concept that if running any lagfix it's best to disable it when updating the same ROM to a newer version but when doing a factory ROM it wipes out the ROM contents including the file-system format be it EXT4/EXT3 back to the Samsung RFS.
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The partitions get formatted either way (unless it's now wipe, in which case I guess data and datadb don't). If are running ext4 and your new kernel supports ext4 then why disable it?

mcord11758 said:
Phoenix and cognition both use ext 4 filing and the clockwork recovery built in understand it.
You have no less risk flashing jh7. in essence you are doing the same thing
flashing stock was more necessary when recovery could not understand ext 4. Today you can change to three different kernels in one day without ever disabling a lagfix
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Thanks, that was the answer I was looking form I didn't exactly understand that the restriction was the recovery rom. It makes sense.

[Q] [ROM] • FireFly 2.1 voodoo

I just installed firefly 2.1 concerning voodoo do you have to enable it to work i hooked up my phone to pc and cannot find any folder named voodoo and in order to flash a unsigned zip do i need 2e or 3e?sorry for noobie ? just dont want to mess anything up and i love this rom so far awesome.I came from motorola backflip and flashing those roms was easy this phone more involved i've been reading alot starting to go cross-eyed.

go to recovery and check if your file system is ext4, if it is, that means your lagfix is enabled. recovery 2e is generally used for flashing cwm zip file, if you are using recovery 3e, search the forum for signature fix, otherwise, you will get some errors.

kinda related question, do you need to disable voodoo when flashing other roms? and do i just do the disable by going into recovery/clockwork and choosing it?

scward said:
kinda related question, do you need to disable voodoo when flashing other roms? and do i just do the disable by going into recovery/clockwork and choosing it?
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it is recommended for disabling the lagfix before upgarding a new rom. Yes, you can do it in the recovery.
But from my own personal experience, you do not have to do that, at least for upgrading the same brand rom, for example, upgrading Phoenix from 3.5 to 4.1.
If you are more conservative, disable it first.

FireFly 2.1 does not use voodoo lagfix. It uses the Speedmod kernel which has options for lagfix in the recovery. I have flashed over ROMs using voodoo (without disabling it), with no problems.
If you do disable voodoo, and then flash 2.1, make sure you go into recovery and enable lagfix and other tweaks.
Hope this helps.

does enabling lagfix make that big of a difference?and which tweaks would i enable?

fezzy102 said:
does enabling lagfix make that big of a difference?and which tweaks would i enable?
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enabling lagifx will let you feel smooth UI on your phone because of quick file access on the system. if you are using SpeedMod kernel, it has more info about the tweaks (it will not make much difference as lagfix).

so if its not enabled i can flash themes and fonts.but if enabled disable first so as to be able to flash from cwm and it has to be on 2e right?thank you all for the help.

fezzy102 said:
so if its not enabled i can flash themes and fonts.but if enabled disable first so as to be able to flash from cwm and it has to be on 2e right?thank you all for the help.
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if you just want to flash themes or fonts, you can just leave the lagfix setting as it is (it does not matter), only when you try to flash a rom. Recovery 2e is very stable in my opinion.

signature verification failed

I am trying to install the latest cognition onto my samsung captivate. I have installed the gingerbread things successfully, however, when I try to flash the cognition kernal via clockwork mod, I get a signature verification error.
Furthermore, when I try to flash other kernals with an older CWM or the cf-roots, my phone just loops the boot screen. To fix it, all I do is put kernalKF1 back into the pda spot and start odin.
Also, I noticed that with zImage-root, I get the looping boot screen, but with the red fish instead.
Is the red fish supposed to still be in the boot screen after I flash the kernalKF1?
I am not sure if something is wrong with my odin or what... bottom line is, I want to install the latest cognition and be done with it. I have spent 7 hours on this already. lol at having an evening of free time.

bluDog said:
I am trying to install the latest cognition onto my samsung captivate. I have installed the gingerbread things successfully, however, when I try to flash the cognition kernal via clockwork mod, I get a signature verification error.
Furthermore, when I try to flash other kernals with an older CWM or the cf-roots, my phone just loops the boot screen. To fix it, all I do is put kernalKF1 back into the pda spot and start odin.
Also, I noticed that with zImage-root, I get the looping boot screen, but with the red fish instead.
Is the red fish supposed to still be in the boot screen after I flash the kernalKF1?
I am not sure if something is wrong with my odin or what... bottom line is, I want to install the latest cognition and be done with it. I have spent 7 hours on this already. lol at having an evening of free time.
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Flashing Cognition 5V2 is a little "tirickier" than most. DG posted an updated initial kernel. I would flash the ODIN version in step 2. That kernel supports EXT4 formatting tools for a "stock" kernel which normally would not support voodoo. I would start off making sure you don't have lagfix enabled for system or data, flash KF1 (without bootloaders if you have them already) and then start with step 2 - ODIN. Hopefully that helps.

RichMD said:
Flashing Cognition 5V2 is a little "tirickier" than most. DG posted an updated initial kernel. I would flash the ODIN version in step 2. That kernel supports EXT4 formatting tools for a "stock" kernel which normally would not support voodoo. I would start off making sure you don't have lagfix enabled for system or data, flash KF1 (without bootloaders if you have them already) and then start with step 2 - ODIN. Hopefully that helps.
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This helped me out, thanks a bunch I used odin for the kernal instead of cwm and it worked fine. I have no idea why I didn't even try that. Sad thing is, I figured it was only going to take maybe a minute or two, if that, to get cognition installed, and it did... haha, hours wasted.
Again, thank you.

I have a couple more questions, this time, concerning Cognition itself:
1) In the feature list of cognition, it says it has a custom launcher layout. Where can I find this? I just see stock touchwiz.
2) Everything that I install/download goes into my external sd card, so whenever I take it out, none of my apps work. How can I set it back to install into the internal sd?

Clockwork Issue

I used SuperOneClick to root my phone, and now I'm looking through the Captivate Guide to see what else I can do with an unrooted phone. I started with Rom Manager.
So I clicked "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery," and it was fine. I select my phone (Galaxy S - Captivate, not the Captivate MTD). I pressed "Backup Current ROM," but when I press "Okay," it restarts my phone to the blue menu. So I press "reset phone now," and I try to start from the beginning again. According to the guide, it says to restart it until it works. It's rebooting each time instead with no change. When I go to manage and restore backups, nothing is listed.
When I load up Rom Manager, under "Flash Clockwork Mod Recovery," it just says
"Current recovery: Clockwork mod 2.5.1.2
Latest Recovery: Clockwork mod 2.5.1.2"
Anyone know what I'm doing wrong? I'm using stock 2.2 Froyo and GO Launcher with Cartoon Theme (if that matters).
I've already tried TRusselo's method regarding the 3e issue with stock 2.2 phones: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1052991
Do I need SGS Kernel Flasher? If so, what kernel do I need?
/EDIT: Check my post 5 for my latest issue.

Why not just flash a KB1 kernel with cwm in it? I know Desing Gears cog 4.x.x kernels works, and probably eXistZ's kb1 kernel as well. They have cwm cooked in the + few other things like Voodoo, etc.
Also I believe your supposed to click install package as well. I could be wrong since its been a long while since I've used that method.

prbassplayer said:
Why not just flash a KB1 kernel with cwm in it? I know Desing Gears cog 4.x.x kernels works, and probably eXistZ's kb1 kernel as well. They have cwm cooked in the + few other things like Voodoo, etc.
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I'm much too amateur with phones to do that.
The only reason I decided to finally root my phone was because my warranty is up, and because I found TheUnlocker's youtube account + Captivate guide. I figured with step-by-step instructions, there's no way I could screw up. Boy, was I wrong.

Dude...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703 and then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236891
If you dont want Victory ROM then at least install Boogs Kernel and enjoy Clockwork Recovery!
Steve

Stevenrogers_420 said:
Dude...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1232703 and then
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1236891
If you dont want Victory ROM then at least install Boogs Kernel and enjoy Clockwork Recovery!
Steve
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I plan to use Cyanogenmod 7 eventually. The reason I haven't flashed a ROM is because I'm not 100% sure how yet. That's why I'm taking lots of small steps.
A lot of these ROMs also mention Odin, which I didn't use. I used SuperOneClick.
I went online and tried to flash my phone according to this guy's steps:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6KvCxdYZ0nk
Okay, so even though I followed all of his steps, I get to the part where I'm supposed to find the MIUI file in my SD card, and it doesn't exist... even though I transferred it over. How come my phone doesn't recognize it? Phone is barely functional at the moment after I flashed it back to 2.1, and I'm encountering a lot of lag/bugs. If I plug in my phone to my computer without Debugging on, it fails to download drivers.
Does anyone know the best fix out of this situation?

[Q] ClockworkMod Recovery Mode HELP!

Can anyone help link me or teach me how to set up my phone to get into Clockwork Mod Recovery mode? whenever i try to reboot into Clockwork, it just boots into 3e recovery. I have an AT&T Samsung Captivate with stock 2.3.5 Gingerbread rooted and i have already flashed the latest version of ClockworkMod Recovery (2.5.1.2)
I want to overclock my captivate but i cant unless i can get ClockworkMod Recovery to work

Try flashing a rom with CWM already baked into it.
And PLEASE DO NOT use ROM Manager. It doesn't work on the Captivate.
Sent from my SGH-I897 using XDA

argonarcel said:
Can anyone help link me or teach me how to set up my phone to get into Clockwork Mod Recovery mode? whenever i try to reboot into Clockwork, it just boots into 3e recovery. I have an AT&T Samsung Captivate with stock 2.3.5 Gingerbread rooted and i have already flashed the latest version of ClockworkMod Recovery (2.5.1.2)
I want to overclock my captivate but i cant unless i can get ClockworkMod Recovery to work
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FFS... you are using rom manager.. it hasnt supported captivate since 2.1 eclair.
2.5 clockwork is nowhere near the latest. at version 5 now.
and when rom manager used to work, you boot into 3e recovery then select install update.zip TWICE. (every time)
THEN you will boot into CWM.
**but you arent on android 2.1 so it will error out. then you are going to create another thread for a question that has been answered a million times already.
why do you need clockwork to overclock your phone??? (you dont)
might want to learn what stickies are and go read them for a few days before you F%%% up your phone predominantly. read the new user guide while you are at it.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=762171
this is what i am trying to do. I just got into ClockworkMod Recovery somehow but now i cant get out. It keeps looping between the at&t screen and CWM
Any suggestions? or should i reflash the stock rom for 2.3

august 2010... do you think that works on gingerbread when it was released before froyo was released??
i told you to read before you **** up your phone. are we going to listen now?

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294477
flash this kernel .tar with odin
or in CWM (now) go to Mounts and Storage > Mount USB > (plug phone into PC)
copy over the .zip kernel from the thread, then unmount > back > flash zip from sdcard > choose corn kernel.zip

In odin, do i flash as PDA, Bootloader, etc?
im a bit new to this, so i dont no all these fancy pancy stuff

argonarcel said:
In odin, do i flash as PDA, Bootloader, etc?
im a bit new to this, so i dont no all these fancy pancy stuff
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if you are flashing a kernel then it will go in PDA section but if you are flashing stock 2.3 fw then all the files will go to their respective places

Should I use this link for Captivate with 2.3.4?
Hi,
You told a guy who was trying to get clockwordmod recovery on his captivate, to use this:
[KERNEL][KK4][1/28/11] Corn Kernel v7.06 from Source (OC, BLN, Voodoo Sound, etc.)
Should I also take that advice? I want to put AOKP on the phone, but I have to get clockwork on there first and the normal way doesn't work because of the 3e recovery unsigned business. Thank you much for your expertise and for being a great help to everybody.
-Bob
TRusselo said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1294477
flash this kernel .tar with odin
or in CWM (now) go to Mounts and Storage > Mount USB > (plug phone into PC)
copy over the .zip kernel from the thread, then unmount > back > flash zip from sdcard > choose corn kernel.zip
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