[Q] Question on TASK29, ROM, Radio - Touch Pro2, Tilt 2 Windows Mobile ROM Development

I have two simple questions, I have been reading everything I can find on Task29, Flashing etc. (I have successfully performed a ROM flash of a custom ROM and updated my radio ROM, but now I want to learn more) - I just want to make sure I understand this correctly so thanks for answering my questions if you are able.
1. I know Task29 formats/clears all memory.
2. I know as part of that task how to then flash a custom ROM
My first question is this - if I do this process, do I *HAVE* to flash a Radio ROM after, or do most custom ROMs (example: Energy) include a Radio ROM so after Task29/flash custom ROM the phone is usable?
Second (related) question - Does Task29 clear the Radio Rom from memory too?
Thanks again!

awalt said:
I have two simple questions, I have been reading everything I can find on Task29, Flashing etc. (I have successfully performed a ROM flash of a custom ROM and updated my radio ROM, but now I want to learn more) - I just want to make sure I understand this correctly so thanks for answering my questions if you are able.
1. I know Task29 formats/clears all memory.
2. I know as part of that task how to then flash a custom ROM
My first question is this - if I do this process, do I *HAVE* to flash a Radio ROM after, or do most custom ROMs (example: Energy) include a Radio ROM so after Task29/flash custom ROM the phone is usable?
Second (related) question - Does Task29 clear the Radio Rom from memory too?
Thanks again!
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i'll try to explain:
task29 executes format c so windows is away BUT bios is not.
same on touch pro2:
internal memory is cleaned but radio and splashscreen are untouched
custom roms can include but nromaly they dont radio roms
so task29 is just doing format c:/
you can flash a radio rom afterwards but thats nothing special =)
after task29 only memory is cleared! nothing more and nothing less

Thanks for the explanation! I flashed an updated Radio ROM so I know how to do that. The explanation of BIOS vs. memory was good. I understand now, thanks!

Related

Whats the benefits?

Hi, i got the HD in March, and just wonder the benefits of installing a custom rom. Like Dutty's (seems to be popular). I read the threads of the contents in the rom , but what would you push for in this custom roms that isn't in the original rom.
If i flash it, is there a "easy" way to get back to original rom? I guess i HAVE to flash the rom back to original?
Is it diffrent original roms for diffrent countries?
Does the customs incl,
Landscapce mode in sms,mail, browse?
Nice calender, original sucks (looks like win 3.11)?
Last silly question, is there other themes fo customs?
I have understood that the Manilla is the graphical layout, or am i out in the bushes??
/Micke
Yeah, the only way to get back to a stock ROM is by reflashing it (don't worry though, there are plenty of links to those around here).
And while flashing itself is not without a risk (you can always "brick" your device), I'd say it's well worth it. Custom ROMs generally offer more speed, often more stability (especially those made by well-known chefs), new features (Manila/TouchFlo from the new HTC phones, Touch Diamond2 and Touch Pro2, which includes a newer, nicer calendar) and yes, they very often do have advanced screen rotation.
My Blackstone is currently sporting Davideuck's V-4_HP (that's a WMo 6.1 ROM with the new Manila) and it's probably the best ROM I've ever had on my phone. I recommend you to try that one.
As for themes, yeah, there are a few, especially in Blackstone's "Themes and Applications" subforum. And yep, you understood correctly, Manila (or Touch Flo 3D, as HTC likes to call it) is the graphical interface.
Ok, thanks for the answers. And if you see a thread with a link to a "swedish rom" notify me
So if i understood things right, i install hspl on the phone, boot it up in that "special way" flash it by SD card or custonruu on pc.
Either i put it on the root of the sd card and flash the rom och start customruu on the pc and choose the rom file from there?
drgregur said:
Ok, thanks for the answers. And if you see a thread with a link to a "swedish rom" notify me
So if i understood things right, i install hspl on the phone, boot it up in that "special way" flash it by SD card or custonruu on pc.
Either i put it on the root of the sd card and flash the rom och start customruu on the pc and choose the rom file from there?
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Not if you want to flash Dutty's 2.7 or 2.8. You have to use USPL 2.5 and flash a stock 1.56 ROM in advance. Instructions on how to do this are included in the thread of this ROM.
Ok, whats the diffrent between USPL and HSPL ? Can i flash other rom with USPL ? Why do i need to "install" a stock rom 1.56?
Correct me if I'm wrong, but if you already have stock ROM and have never used HSPL to change your stock SPL, then all you have to do is flash to the new stock HTC ROM (which contains the new SPL you need), and then use USPL to flash a custom ROM.
So if I understood it correctly, this is the way to do it..
I too feel like I'm ready to install a custom ROM and was either considoring
Dutty's or Davaideucks's ROM's but what I wanted to know was, even though
these ROM's maybe more stable and faster, how buggy are they?

Question here, need advice

I have a question that bothering me front and back.
Ok i have an himalaya and I flash the latest 6.5 rom, and it was exactly what it's after it flashed completely.
When i want to draw back to the 6.1 rom, which with a mode sms (i used before) and the mode sms is not working after all. After that i found that flash rom in the bootloader mode, only overwriting the rom and it's not remove all roms and install in a clean and clear new version of the rom.
Can it be "format" completely before i want to flash the new roms?
do you choose the format storage and reg hive after the rom install
as all flashing guides describe ?
yeah it's truely what i want. Thanks man!!!

[Q] Few ROM and SPL Questions

I've got a few questions, hope no one minds answering. If it's a simple case of RTFM then lock the thread and trash.
1. I've rooted and am using the latest JF build but when I go to telnet I can't connect to localhost anymore. Is this normal?
2. I'm running stock SPL and Radio (not too sure what the radio is btw). Is it best I update before flashing anymore roms?
3. I'm wanting to flash to Cyanogen Mod rom, it looks a lot more complex than simply renaming the rom to update.zip then flashing. Is it safe to assume that there is a lot more work to do? (if so a general point in the right direction would be greatly appreciated).
I really appreciate any help.
Thanks
1. I'm not sure as it has been some time since I last used JF's build I'm afriad...
2. Its advisable at the very least to upgrade your radio (look at my signature for a link). You can upgrade your SPL too providing you have flashed the latest radio FIRST and that you are on a PVT motherboard.
Boot into the SPL to find that out (turn off/reboot the mobile, Hold CAMERA+POWER). It should say at the top.
3. To use Cyanogen's ROM its like flashing any other ROM. Just make sure you have the latest Radio FIRST. Also I believe it works fine for non Apps2SD users so no need to partition your SD card etc to use it.
Hope that helps.
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
alritewhadeva said:
Stock SPL? do you mean HARDSpL?
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Unless it was updated while rooting it's probably "G1 Original SPL"
Thanks NeoBlade, I'll update the radio and spl tomorrow then probably try and get nandroid running so I've got a backup in case anything goes wrong.
No worries digital, just do your usual pre-checks before flashing the SPL and remember Radio first ^_-
You'll enjoy the new features and performance improvements using the latest cooked ROMs out there. Most of the info is in my signature but you can also flash the new Recovery image too by Cyanogen (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=523558).
Not only can you create a Nandroid backup from there, you can also restore it too all from your mobile ^_^
Not to be an @ssh*le, but if you root your phone don't you already have the HardSPL? If you follow Koush's guide you were told to flash the HardSPL which isn't the stock SPL at all. Care to shed some light on this?
He could have had the engineering SPL, I remember having that briefly myself in the early days. The main thing is that he just wants to run Cyanogen's ROM so as long as he updates the radio and flashes the ROM without issues it should be fine. Unlike some Hero ROMs it doesn't require the latest SPL to create space for the ROM.
Granted though, its often always nice to have the latest stuff ^_-
Ok well if you DECIDE to update to the latest radio and SPL just go to my guide below and go to the second post. That will tell you how to install the radio and spl updates!
Good luck!
Indeed ^_^ And once that's done, perhaps change the title to SOLVED so people know. We shall have to wait for digital to get back to us about it.
This is the guide I used:
http://haykuro.theiphoneproject.org/?page_id=35
Sorry alritewhadeva:
I'm on the HardSPL so I guess I don't need to bother updating that again. I didn't get to the point where it said to update to the newest radio.
Reading a bit further it also says that I can do a backup easily using adb which is already setup. At some point in the process it must have installed the things needed for nandroid backup. I think it was the recovery.img part.
Thanks for the great link Nephron, I used it before to setup adb on my netbook (running win7 on my main machine).
Before I flash the latest radio is it safe to do this *after* updating the spl?
Thanks for all the great help, I really appreciate it.
As a thumb of rule, always flash the radio first before the SPL and the ROM.
Tell us how it goes ^_^ If you've managedto do it, could you please edit the title then to add SOLVED? Good luck.
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
Tr1n1Jay said:
Soo do you have to flash the radio and SPL everytime you want to flash a rom??? i already have the latest radio, i just want to make sure i dont make a mistake
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No you don't. Only once... then kind of keep an eye on the forum to see if better radio or SPL comes along. So far I had to update my radio once. What recovery image do you have (home+power), is it still JF1.43? You should update that to CM 1.4, you get a lot more flexibility with that... read up on it in development forum. All in all, unless you plan to install Hero anytime soon (and I personally don't recommend it, too slow and buggy) you should be good with (in that very order)
1. Flashing newest RADIO (Haykuro has it in the link you provided, only need to do it once and you already did it!)
2. Flashing HardSPL (you already did that too! no need to do it again)
2. Updating your Recovery Image (once more, this only needs to be done once)
After that - flash any rom you feel like at any time you feel like doing it.
Hope that helps, good luck!
I agree with everything borodin1 said. If you're on a 1.5 ROM you really should have the new radio already, but you can always go back and flash it. Afterwards you'll want hard SPL or haykuro's. Haykuro's is what you'll need for most HTC based ROMs (Hero, Rogers). Most people brick when flashing Haykuro's ROM because they don't read. Aslong as you have the new radio and a PVT phone (go to the bootloader - home + camera - and it should say PVT) you will be fine.

Noob trying to flash ROMs

Hi all,
I'm new to this kind of operation, so I'm just wondering if the following sequence is correct or not.
1. Flash the HardSPL
2. Flash the ROM (I'm looking into the WCX Rhodium TILT 2 ROM)
3. Flash the Radio.
4. Run Task 29
Am I done? Do I need to download the hotfixes from HTC's website? I'm going to get the Tilt 2 from AT&T.
Thanks a lot!
Vincent
vincentmoy said:
Hi all,
I'm new to this kind of operation, so I'm just wondering if the following sequence is correct or not.
1. Flash the HardSPL
2. Flash the ROM (I'm looking into the WCX Rhodium TILT 2 ROM)
3. Flash the Radio.
4. Run Task 29
Am I done? Do I need to download the hotfixes from HTC's website? I'm going to get the Tilt 2 from AT&T.
Thanks a lot!
Vincent
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try this
http: //forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540
So, do I run task 29 after all is done? what about the 2 hotfixes from htc?
vincentmoy said:
So, do I run task 29 after all is done? what about the 2 hotfixes from htc?
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I dont know exactly what is task 29, but when I was flashing my TP2, then I did this steps
1. sync my phone with windows in windows wia USB
2. start HardSPL auto mode (this have to be done only once, if you never made a flash before).
3. reboot TP2
3. run custom ROM
4. reboot phone
5. do a hard reset (recommended but not necessary)
remember that flashing your phone will erase all your data on it !!!!
this was all and everything works fine
If I can recommend than try energy ROM with Sense 2,5, it seems to be reall fast and stable ..
http ://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=562773
Task 29 is actually sticky on the top of this board
Task29 formats the memory of your phone. If you want to use it you have to do it BEFORE installing the new ROM. It is not recomended if you are changing from Stock to Custom ROM, more likely if you flash different Custom ROMs.
Ahh, thanks!
What about the 2 hotfix from HTC, do I need to install them after the flash of the custom ROM?
vincentmoy said:
Ahh, thanks!
What about the 2 hotfix from HTC, do I need to install them after the flash of the custom ROM?
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ok, so as I understand, task29 have to be started after HardSPL and before ROM flash to clean ROM memory.
I didn't used it and I don't see any bugs or something like this
about hotfixes
I thing its not necessary custom ROMs have in most cases everything well-tuned
you will see
Wonderful, I think that's all I can think of right now! Thanks for all your help!
I take the POST to ask something else...
The suggested order for the flashing of a Rhodium is:
HardSPL
Task29
Flash ROM (Recommended Hard Reset after flashing)
Flash Radio
The process is right?
I can download the next update of the site of HTC Mobile Phone
Support
(http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/HTC_Tilt2_ATT/HTCTilt2ATTOriginalShipROM.exe) and install it before HardSPL?
Or I can install HardSPL before an official update from HTC?
hasbrone said:
I can download the next update of the site of HTC Mobile Phone
Support
(http://member.america.htc.com/download/RomCode/HTC_Tilt2_ATT/HTCTilt2ATTOriginalShipROM.exe) and install it before HardSPL?
Or I can install HardSPL before an official update from HTC?
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You can still install official ROMs (e.g. from HTC or your carrier), even if you've got HardSPL, yes.
As for the first bit above though, whether you can install an official ROM without HardSPL depends on your phone/ROM combination. If that ROM is an official ROM designed specifically for your model/branding/carrier of phone, then you don't need HardSPL. e.g. I have a Vodafone-branded TP2, so without HardSPL I would be able to install official Vodafone ROMs, but I would *not* be able to install an official HTC ROM (because my phone isn't just a plain HTC-branded TP2).
steviewevie said:
You can still install official ROMs (e.g. from HTC or your carrier), even if you've got HardSPL, yes.
As for the first bit above though, whether you can install an official ROM without HardSPL depends on your phone/ROM combination. If that ROM is an official ROM designed specifically for your model/branding/carrier of phone, then you don't need HardSPL. e.g. I have a Vodafone-branded TP2, so without HardSPL I would be able to install official Vodafone ROMs, but I would *not* be able to install an official HTC ROM (because my phone isn't just a plain HTC-branded TP2).
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Thank you very much.
Help is greatly appreciated...
Another little question?
Is there any problem if flashing first the Radio (4.49.25.77) and then the ROM (WWE | Rhodium | Energy | May 28 | 21905).
THANKS.
Please refer to here for flashing questions.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=550540

OliNex HardSpl differences

Is there really any difference bettwen OliNex v0.70 and 1.4 or what's the newest version?
i meen why would people put new version, if the old one is doing the same thing?
and also, is it bad for my xperia x1 to install a 3 different custom rom for a DAY i am just checking which is the best one, and why when i install a new rom, old "NOW PLAYING" in windows media player stays?
what should i do, to install clean ROM?
Thank you
milancex said:
Is there really any difference bettwen OliNex v0.70 and 1.4 or what's the newest version?
i meen why would people put new version, if the old one is doing the same thing?
and also, is it bad for my xperia x1 to install a 3 different custom rom for a DAY i am just checking which is the best one, and why when i install a new rom, old "NOW PLAYING" in windows media player stays?
what should i do, to install clean ROM?
Thank you
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I'm not aware of an OliNex version other than 0.72 (except for the mfg spl of course), which hasn't been updated for quite some time
so if you found a v1.4 for the X1 post it here
to erase possible leftovers it's been reported to either flash a stock rom before flashing custom one ore using task29 (rom dev)
do some research and decide for yourself whether to try one of them or not
Best, DK
i have not found v1.4 olinex, i have 0.72 i'm sorry typing error, so what is the difference between your 1.0 and mine 0.72? (they have the same purpose)
hmm, okey, but how to install a stock rom? i know how to install a custom rom, just transfer to sdcard and boot with volume button down.. is it same for stock roms?(just rename it to kovsimg.nbh) where to find stock roms? when i install stock rom, will i still have olinex hard spl?
milancex said:
i have not found v1.4 olinex, i have 0.72 i'm sorry typing error, so what is the difference between your 1.0 and mine 0.72? (they have the same purpose)
hmm, okey, but how to install a stock rom? i know how to install a custom rom, just transfer to sdcard and boot with volume button down.. is it same for stock roms?(just rename it to kovsimg.nbh) where to find stock roms? when i install stock rom, will i still have olinex hard spl?
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0.72 = v1.0
install stock rom = install custom rom
find stock roms either through reference thread in rom dev or here
hspl will not be removed as long as you don't flash back to stock spl
Best, DK
so, if i understood you, with mine 0.72 i can install stock and custom rom?
and you with 1.0 can install just custom?
and also, if i install stock rom, i install it the same way like custom one? (tranfer kovsimg.nbh to root of memory card and enter bootloader)
and if i install the stock rom like that, can i then install again custom one, i meen will my hard spl will delete or it's on the special memory of the phone? that i can't change with rom installations? thank you
milancex said:
so, if i understood you, with mine 0.72 i can install stock and custom rom?
and you with 1.0 can install just custom?
and also, if i install stock rom, i install it the same way like custom one? (tranfer kovsimg.nbh to root of memory card and enter bootloader)
and if i install the stock rom like that, can i then install again custom one, i meen will my hard spl will delete or it's on the special memory of the phone? that i can't change with rom installations? thank you
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correct
wrong, what I label as v1.0 is exactly the 0.72 that everyone uses
correct, you install stock like custom roms, either using sd or ruu methods
installing stock rom does not overwrite your hspl, so after stock you can flash custom roms right away, roms do not affect the spl as you said
Best,
DK

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