[Q] Why no Market on most ROMs? - Nook Color General

I'm been voiding warranties for years through ROM flashing (primarily on my Epic 4G) and just picked up a Nook Color last week. I've flashed about a half dozen ROMs and noticed the lack of the Android Market app on about 90% of them. There are numerous threads on how to push the missing apps onto the device, but I was wondering why they aren't baked into the ROM to begin with. On the Epic, devs leave out all the "bloat" apps with zips for people why want them, but Android Market seems pretty critical.
Is there a reason why it's missing on most ROMs, and can anyone recommend a good Froyo SD ROM with the market app installed?

In 2009 Google sent a cease and desist letter for including Google apps in ROM. The agreement with Google was to have the user install them separately therefore moving the liability of installing the apps to the user.
http://mobile.engadget.com/2009/09/24/google-hits-android-rom-modder-with-a-cease-and-desist-letter
From http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version
Google Apps contain the proprietary Google applications that come pre-installed with most android devices. Due to licensing restrictions, these apps cannot come pre-installed with CyanogenMod and must be installed separately. CyanogenMod does not require Google Apps to function properly, however, to take full advantage of the android system, Google Apps are recommended.
These apps include Gmail, Maps, and the Android Market, just to name a few.
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Google Blocks Paid-App Access For Developer G1s

Mobile content creators who bought the developer version of the G1 to test out applications won't have access to all the apps in the Android Market, as Google has cut off access to paid apps.
The Android Dev Phone 1 is very similar to the T-Mobile G1, but it has a different design, and it's SIM-unlocked and hardware-unlocked. The $400 smartphone is aimed at developers who want an easy way to test applications on a physical device without having to sign up for a wireless service contract.
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Full Story Here
I have a Developer phone (Free from Google as holiday bonus) and using the JF build I can see some Paid Apps. I can't see them all though....its kind of weird
Not only is the story inaccurate (its PROTECTED apps) it's been posted many times already.
The other threads have been talking about root phones, the article clearly states dev phones, not rooted. It also states paid apps (all of which are protected).
There are also protected free apps so pricing isn't the issue. All dev phones have root which is the main reason why adp's are blocked to begin with.
This has been discussed many times. Here is how it works:
1. Not all paid apps are protected. ADP firmware can only see NON-protected paid apps. This is because 'copy protection' is simply a folder that a normal user does not have permissions to enter. Thus, since all ADP1.1 phones have root, they can easily enter and copy the apps to simcard. Basically, they screwed that up pretty well, and really did not think it through all too well.
2. ADP users do not yet have an official ADP1.1 firmware update anyways, so they can not see paid apps anyways on the current image (old market)
3. Google is not blocking rooted phones (as rooted RC33 users can see all apps), they are only blocking the ADP1.1 users (IE ADP1.1 Holiday, which was meant as an update for internal google employees with the phone, not devs).
So there it is, not hard AT all. It does suck though, and if you really think about it, google is basically calling all of its employees thieves
I do think that this is probably the reason why there is no 'official' ADP1.1 dev phone images yet, even with the 1.1 SDK out. Google basically noted that their 'copy protection' is BS, and trying to fix that before the ADP1.1 official images are released, thus allowing devs access to all paid apps.
I'm rooted on RC33 and can't see all the apps :/

Google Maps No Longer on Market

Anyone see Google Maps on the market? Seems as if Google has removed it. Hopefully this wont be bad news....
zimphishmonger said:
Anyone see Google Maps on the market? Seems as if Google has removed it. Hopefully this wont be bad news....
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you can get the apk from any rom. just download it unzip its in system/app
I'm seeing it in the market!
Weird. It is indeed gone and ATrackDog doesn't list it as a trackable app anymore either.
I think we'll get by without it in the market haha.
I'm wondering if google is getting ready to release google maps 3.2 with navigation onto the market. That would awesome.
For some reason, i dont think this is a positive thing. I know everyone on here will have no issue, but its def not a step in the right direction for the Android community at whole
This could mean.....
1: Google Maps with Navigation
2: Maps will be integrated back into updates instead of being a market app.
Are any other google apps that come on the phone still available? If there aren't other apps I bet they will only put them on the market when there is an update. Google is probably trying to make it harder for people who flash cyanogen's new roms. Luckily we have the htc 1.6 recovery, but if you can't figure that flash out you have a rom with no stock/system apps. Google is making sure we can't just install the apps from the market. Just my 2 cents.
dwang said:
I'm wondering if google is getting ready to release google maps 3.2 with navigation onto the market. That would awesome.
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Maybe but it would seem to me that they would update the current one on the Market if that were the case. This sits uneasy with me. I don't like it.
I think this is a bad sign too. Goog may be planning to remove all their apps from the market, to limit the "Google Experience" apps to phones that are branded as such. With the slew of Android phones coming, they're trying to protect the revenue source from the handset makers.
It's still on the market for me.
Google maps was initially put on the market for the simple reason that it was an easier upgrade path than to force all phones to take a system upgrade.
The fact that only google experience phones have the market program means that only google experience phones would be able to get google apps off the market anyways, so it makes no difference.
If the "current version" of android is consistent with that of maps, no need for it on the market. If maps is ahead of android, then it needs to be on the market.

How is MicroG on the 3T?

Hi all.
I am considering to replace my vanilla LineageOS with the MicroG version.
I aim at prolonging the battery life and get rid of Google's Play Store Services, while keeping a bunch of Google apps: Gmail, Hangout and Maps.
Any experience? Anything relevant to report?
I am asking as the installation will likely require me a full reinstall (nothing I fear of, though).
https://github.com/microg/android_packages_apps_GmsCore/issues/467 You can't sign into google accounts in apps using the modern API. Google maps should work since you don't need to sign in and some gapps not updated to the new apis like google inbox too.
Hi I am using Nlos with microg for sometime now . whats not working out of my experience .Gmail ,google maps(need to use older version) alternatively use maps go ,backup on viber WhatsApp(if you want to use a backup you need to use older version again) some apps that use map api from Google
You will gain some battery but I believe microg has to do with getting free from Googles abusive practices and collecting personal information.
Google is collecting info of your location without your consent scanning your Gmail etc . (move away from Gmail that's my opinion)
Do a research of the apps you are daily using if and how they work under microg.

Can we opt out from Harmony OS Update?

Hi, as confirmed : https://www.huaweicentral.com/harmonyos-eligible-devices/amp/
Will a user be able to opt out from installing the Harmony OS Update?
It appearently won't be running android and many of my favorite apps are Android such as my Google apps.
Your feedback is appreciated,
Thanks
might be able to block system updates from development options. at this point i will take the update if by some weird chance i get it before i can buy a p50 pro, sadly i dont trust google anymore than i do the CCP
Harmony OS IS in fact Android as much as I know, but there is no google apps and no Play store.
As far as I read, normally Android apps should work if installed as apk.
Harmony OS could have an advantage in fact: It will be OpenSource!
So it is not much different from any custom rom as far as I see it. The only thing will be that there are no google apps and some apps which need google services won#t work as banking apps etc.
Maybe there will be a workaround or Huawei will get together with the most needed apps and will support them in their own App store.

get rid of andriod spyware

hello with the new way of these phones andriod and others plus spyware .im wondering how do i know what apps samsung etc are spying on my phone maybe uploading my numbers and other infor without me knowing any of you guys got any idea whats the best way to stop it. tbh i hate even google assist even turning on by itself even when i diable it
Hello, first of all, please write in easily readable sentences, that way more people are going to help you.
Second, it is important to be and stay suspicious of the software you use, especially with android. But you shouldn't be worried too much as most of the data that is sent from your phone isn't sent with "evil intentions" or anything like that, it is often rather aggressive diagnostics.
Warning! The following paragraphs are filled with very radical means of removing suspected spyware! Almost all of these require root and knowledge in modding your Android! Beware!
As to how you can spot "spyware" or suspected spyware, there isn't one easy way.
First of all, you could use a custom ROM, so that your system is more open source and there isn't any suspected spyware (or any "ware" at all) from Samsung.
To go one step further, you could try to live without Google services:
Use a different search engine, for example DuckDuckGo or any other really
Use Firefox or any non-Chromium browser
Instead of using opengapps to install Google Play Services (when you install a custom ROM) you could use the replacement project "microG" (microg.org).
Get as many apps as you can from Open source app stores (F-Droid)
Don't use the official Play Store unless you really have to - it is a power hungry data collecting app (that can theoretically install any app without asking, just like the Google Play Services or any other /system/priv-app app with proper permissions) - Alternative for installing Play Store apps: Aurora Store
Replace Google Maps with OpenStreetMap (OSMand)
Use a anonymous YouTube client, for example NewPipe
etc.
These are of course only suggestions, I don't recommend doing them all at once, but if you really don't want any unnecessary data sent from your phone, these are the first steps.
For actually seeing which apps send what data you could either analyze the app bytecode with App Warden or look at all detailed permissions with AppOpsX.
Methods to neutralize spyware are rejecting the permission for the app to use internet access or even run in the background, disabling the suspected app or removing it with system app removers.
Be very careful with actually disabling or removing system apps! Many system apps are needed for the system to work and one can easily misjudge an app by its description and diagnostics! Before disabling an app you should research whether anyone else knows anything about the app and only remove it if you are really sure about it. You have been warned.

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