I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
1) You have 2.1 (Eclair)
2) No, you need 2.2. There are several options, including simply running it from an SD card or flashing it to memory (eMMC)
3) CM7 is andrioid 2.3. Good stuff, but still a work in progress.
4) See #2
Thanks very much for responding.
Regarding your answers:
1. Is there a place on the Nook where I can find this?
2. Can you recommend a link to a method for getting this? Is it an upgrade, or would I be completely re-rooting this thing and having to reconfigure everything?
Any suggestions on some basic information for newbies?
Thanks again!
Sorry, I don't think I understand the question. Could you specify what you mean by "this"? Thanks.
Sorry, not sure which question you're referring to.
1. This = The version currently running on it.
2. This = Version 2.2
I can't be certian since I have moved to a CM7 variant, but I think it might be under settings either about or device information.
If you rooted with Autonooter you are on Android 2.1 Eclair. If you are running a froyo rom you are on Android 2.2. If on a CM7 based Rom you are on gingerbread android 2.3
loribuono said:
I'm new to Android and tablets and have never had a smart phone. However, I am in the computer field and am relatively technical. At the very least, I'm intelligent and can follow clear directions.
Where I'm running into trouble is that, because this is all so new to me, I'm lost when reading a lot of these forums, because I have no idea what all these terms mean or what things are.
Here's where I'm at with my Nook Color. Got it a week ago, rooted it with AutoNooter 3.0, got ADB working (finally) over USB. YouTube works. Can get my email. Using Launcher Pro and Dolphin HD. That's about it.
I'm unclear about a few things, and I realize they're pretty basic. But I've searched and searched and can't find clear answers. Hopefully, someone here can help me:
1. How do I know what version of Android I've got on this thing. Nowhere can I find a place to see the version number. And the AutoNooter 3.0 page didn't tell me what version it installs. 2.2?
2. Does Flash work on this or not? This is related to question 1, because I need to at least know what Android version I'm using before I can even beging to search to figure out whether Flash works with it.
3. What is CM7?
4. I tried installing Flash101.apk with ADB, but get the message: INSTALL_FAILED_OLDER_SDK. Again, I'd like to know what this means, but what I've read says the Flash version is for an newer Android version. So, we're back to... what version of Android is on this thing?
As fas as the rest, does anyone know if there's anything out there that goes over basic terms for those of us completely new to Android and tablets/phones and rooting them? Much of the instructions I read refer to things I've never heard of and, when I try looking up those terms, I just get more terms I've never heard of.
Thanks!
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CM7 (Cyanogenmod 7) is a custom rom, which is a custom operating system that replaces your current one. If you are not familiar with Android yet or rooting, I would stick with autnooter for now. Phiremod beta 2 is a stable custom rom with flash, but you need clockwork recovery first to install it.
Yeah, checked those places Wile E, but didn't see it there. Thanks, though.
stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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stelv, would that run off the card or internally? If it runs off the card, I could try it out without messing up what I've already got, right?
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Most custom rom installs (phiremod) would erase what you have now completely. You would have to redownload programs and use the nook color app from market for books. You could use titanium backup to backup and restore apps. There is a thread here and on androidtablets.net for phiremod beta 2.
But there may be a version of froyo that runs off sdcard but I am not sure how stable that is. If you are running froyo from an sdcard and mess with the nook internally, it may mess your nook up when you remove the card and try to go back to your old setup.
The good thing with the beta 2 version of phiremod is that you can restore a previous version of the nook from the clockwork recovery menu if you have cwr installed. That is if you make a backup first through cwr on your autonooter version of nook.
If you decide to go the route of a custom rom I would check out the how to on androidtablets.net about clockworkmod recovery first.
sent from my rooted nook color
Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Thanks for all the info. When you say "custom roms," are you referring to any rooting of your Nook Color? Is the version of Android I have after running the AutoNooter 3.0 considered a custom rom? Or did I just merely strip off some of the "skin" Barnes & Noble has on there, 'cause it didn't seem very much like I'd started over, but more like I "got past" something that was already on there and, therefore, opened up more functionality. Does that make any sense? I'm getting the feeling that Nookie Froyo and CM7 completely wipe your Nook and give you a fresh OS. Yes?
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Ok here is another long book by me, sorry for the long posts
Yes, Nookie Froyo, CM7, Phiremod give you an entirely new OS.
Custom roms are not any rooting. They are entirely different android operating systems so to speak. Most require one to wipe the devices internal Rom (Read Only Memory) in order to put a new one on. This is sort of risky as it erases everything, but is made less risky by using stable custom roms in combo with clockwork recovery. If the internal memory gets messed up and the procedures for instaling a custom rom are not followed or an error happens, your device will be unusable until fixed (fixed usually by booting CWR off sdcard and installing a stock image). Please do research and ask around XDA or androidtablets before installing a custom rom to know what the ups and downs of it are.
Also please keep in mind on the Nook certain Roms like CM7 require a different version of CWR and require a workaround to work as of now. It can be kind of tricky to install. Phiremod Beta2 can be installed through normal recovery. Check us out over at http://www.androidtablets.net/forum/nook/ if you want. There are a lot of useful guides over there.
Yes autonooter just opens up functionality
Autonooter is not a custom Rom. It is just the method of rooting or unlocking your android device. Rooting an Android device makes you system administrator of the device. This is so you can do things beyond what B&N lets you do with the device like use the Android market.
This is what I did with my Nook. Autnootered it>installed Clockwork Recovery>Made a backup with Clockwork Recovery>Then Installed Phiremod beta2 through clockwork recovery as per the instructions for that rom
Thanks again for this. I appreciate you taking the time to explain this to a newbie. It's beginning to make much more sense now. For now, I'll stick with what I've got, keep reading and then go from there.
Ugh. Authentication error while reading a book and then a reset, and I'm back to the beginning. Except worse, because even navigation while reading a book doesn't work right. Anyone experience this?
Sorry I don't have that issues so I am not sure. Maybe its a password issue?
Perhaps. Don't know. Starting over from scratch. All I know is that it happened when I was merely reading a book, about ten minutes after trying to login to Google Talk with a different Google account than the one I used during the AutoNooter process.
Who knows...
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Hi guys,
I recently bought a Nook Color and i want to root it. I am hearing things about Autonooter and putting an image on my micro SD card. Personally i just want the best option to root my Nook, i want to overclock it aswell .
Really sorry if someone has already posted a thread like this, i tried searching for one.
I havent opened my Nook Color yet so guessing the software would be 1.0.0 so how would i root it to 1.1.1 and also stop OTA and install a overclocking software.
Thanks, XDA is amazing, recently rooted my Notion Ink Adam
I too would be interested in such a thing. There is information all over the place, but most seems to be geared toward people that understand the "lingo" and such...
I agree
reading MD5 hash
I'm pretty new to this- I have my NK running 1.0.1 using autonooter and want to update to 1.1. I think I've got a grip on using ClockworkMod, but in the instructions for downloading the 1.1 kernel, it says to "check the MD5 hash"- how do I get this info from the downloaded ZIP file? I don't want to even try and do the update without making sure the download is not corrupt.
Thanks!
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I'm pretty new to this- I have my NK running 1.0.1 using autonooter and want to update to 1.1. I think I've got a grip on using ClockworkMod, but in the instructions for downloading the 1.1 kernel, it says to "check the MD5 hash"- how do I get this info from the downloaded ZIP file? I don't want to even try and do the update without making sure the download is not corrupt.
Thanks!
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http://helpdeskgeek.com/how-to/check-md5sum-in-windows-7/
I have to say though, to the OP, that reading through all the guides (and some comments) in the dev forums would be the best because you'll learn all the ins n outs. Having a noob guide is fine but it's fun searching for the info yourself and you'll learn/remember a lot more about your device. having a noob guide that is not comprehensive enough just promotes needless questions when the info is all over the place elsewhere.
Thanks for the link superkevx! Additionally, is there any way to do the check on the Nook itself? I downloaded it using the stock browser & can pull the SD card and check it on my 'puter, but it would be nice to be able to just do it locally.
I agree with you comment about the noob guide- I've learned so much trolling the dev forums...
i do try to find everything its just some things i dont get:
like clockworkmod, i think its to do with disabling OTA but im not sure
which is better,autonooter or installing on SD
,if you could answer these questions i would be really grateful thanks
From one noob to another...
Patrikc8 said:
i do try to find everything its just some things i dont get:
like clockworkmod, i think its to do with disabling OTA but im not sure
which is better,autonooter or installing on SD
,if you could answer these questions i would be really grateful thanks
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Patrikc8- from my experience (have ROM Manager & Clockworkmod installed in prep for 1.1 update), Clockwork mod is used for making system backups and doing system restores (including installs of custom ROM's)
As far as the SD vs autonooter- installing to the SD means that you typically don't touch the original system files on the Nook itself- good for trying out a ROM that you are interested in but not sure you want to keep. There may be a performance hit though because you're constantly reading from the potentially slower SD media (correct me if I'm wrong on that anybody). I used autonooter to root my Nook and it has worked great since- it is apparently a very easy way to root and I had no trouble doing it.
Aha!
rcsrich said:
Thanks for the link superkevx! Additionally, is there any way to do the check on the Nook itself? I downloaded it using the stock browser & can pull the SD card and check it on my 'puter, but it would be nice to be able to just do it locally.
I agree with you comment about the noob guide- I've learned so much trolling the dev forums...
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For what it's worth- did a little investigating & you can use Astro file manager to get the MD5sum- just do a long touch to the file in question and choose "Details".
SHould i use auto nooter 1.0.1 or the nook color v1.1.1 ROM?
and im guessing you have to root it first then install a rom then install a kernal?
would there be a big difference in 1.1.1 and 1.0.1 ?
I bought my Nook Color a couple of weeks ago. It was on 1.0.0. The first thing I did was update to 1.0.1. I then downloaded the Autonooter for 1.0.1 on my pc. I also installed Win32DiskImage.exe on my pc, and followed the directions to burn the image to my sd card. I followed the instructions exactly as they are laid out on nookdevs. I then reformatted my sd card back to normal to use for storage in my device.
One thing that happens when you run autonooter is that clockwork recovery is installed. This is simply a tool that will allow you to perform functions at a lower level than the android interface will allow. It my look a little intimidating at first, but go slow, and make sure you are absolutely sure that anything you do in CWR matches what it is listed in the instructions posted. Every action requires a confirmation, so, again, go slow and think it through.
A few days later, the 1.1.1 update came out. I used the updated Rom and instructions here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=932145
Something that I found confusing is using alternate home screens. I finally determined that Zeam was the right choice for me. It is free in the market. The other tool you should download from the market is called Home Switcher. It will let you switch between different launchers (e.g. Zeam, BN stock home, etc.). Again, you will probably have to experiment a bit to get things working the way you like.
Lastly, to improve the performance overall, I flashed a few different kernels. You may want to play with your nook for a while to get comfortable first. When you choose to flash a kernel, you will boot into recovery (this brings up the Clockwork Recovery program), and pick the zip file that you download to your sd card. My recommendation is to start with the 900mHz kernel first. Make sure your nc is stable, then try some of the faster ones.
As far as MD5s, I have not ever checked after downloading, and have not had any problems as a result. It is something I need to investigate further and start doing.
Hope this helps. I do agree with superkevx above. Browse and search and experiment. It is very unlikely that you will do any permanent damage to your nook, although it is possible. Everyone needs to have at least one bricked device along the way. I have learned more by rendering my devices inoperable and then figuring out how to get them back again. You know you're doing it right if your palms are a little sweaty as you wait for your device to reboot.
you guys have been great , thank you
I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
woot1524 said:
1: No, there is no benefit to staying at 1.0.0. If you want to stick with stock eclair then upgrade to 1.1.0, the update fixed some WiFi issues. To revert back to an older "save" install clockwork mod via rom manager and make a backup. That backup can be reflashed whenever from whatever.
2:I don't know what you're confusing GB for but so far only Eclair/Froyo/HoneyComb currently run on the nook color. Yes you can revert back to any older CWM backup from any install on your eMMC. There are stock flashable images in the dev forum, so don't worry about not being able to go back to stock.
Good luck. Have fun.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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sorry, typo, i meant HC not GB. who can keep them straight these days? thanks for your answers. i've read reports of people having various problems with 1.1.0, it seems the consensus is 1.01 is the version to be on.
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I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
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I bought a nook color yesterday so I could get in on the rooting and roming fun as well. It came with 1.0, which I've already rooted and am now running HC from an SD card. A bit slow, so I'm planning on trying to install it internally. 2 Questions:
1. Is their any reason I should stay at 1.0? Or should I upgrade to 1.01 or 1.1? Will I be able to go back to 1.0 if I want using the 8 reboot method?
2. If I install HC to the internal memory, will I be able to restore to stock? I'm not sure I'm going to keep this device yet so I don't want to do something that will make it impossible to return to stock.
Thanks
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1. none that I could ever see... must've fixed something to warrant two updates although I believe that both were mostly for WiFi but I never had problems with 1.0 or 1.01...
...now I'm just wondering where the new B&N updates are as IIRC they had TWO slated for February and it's getting to be kind of late in the month to push out two updates... might just as well do one big one now... hope that they're skipping Android 2.2 and going straight to 2.3 or 3.0...
woot1524 said:
I think the problems you're talking about stem from upgrading an already rooted 1.0.0 or 1.0.1 with clockwork mod installed. If you start with a fresh(no root/CWM) 1.0.0 install then upgrade to 1.1.0 via b&n, then root it; you're in the clear.
But why bother with all of that when nookie Froyo 6.8 on eMMC is stable and performing beautifully.
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Well the only reason I bought a Nook Color was to play with Honeycomb, dont have much interest in running Froyo, I can do that on my EVO already
One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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One reason to stay with one of the stock ROMs is if you want to use the B&N reader and B&N kids functionality, which are not part of the froyo or HC ROMs. I personally use it a lot and hope they'll get ported over.
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Im sure thats important to many people, although I strictly bought this to play with Honeycomb. Now that I've got it running, I'm wondering what I'll actually use this device for? I can already do all this stuff on my EVO and the screen size isn't that much bigger. It sure had been fun messing with it though! Why B&N didnt enable some of this functionality out of the box I'll never understand!
Hey Guys, i am new and not very knowledgeable in the android world i tried searching but the more i search the more confused i get, i finally got my hands on a nook color (got a brand new in box nook from a place called mardens for 156$ taxes in i was stoked) and rooted it but i think i want to go further then just a root because i don't use the nook as an e reader , here are my questions:
1. I would love to install froyo on my device but i can't seem to find a step by step guide on how to do it
2. I also see that there is 2 froyo builds and was wondering which one is better.
3. Also is Froyo stable on the nook or is it really glitchy? Compared to the stock rooted nook?
4. Once you install froyo is it reversible (go back to the stock build?)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks
Gunner
Gunner86 said:
Hey Guys, i am new and not very knowledgeable in the android world i tried searching but the more i search the more confused i get, i finally got my hands on a nook color (got a brand new in box nook from a place called mardens for 156$ taxes in i was stoked) and rooted it but i think i want to go further then just a root because i don't use the nook as an e reader , here are my questions:
1. I would love to install froyo on my device but i can't seem to find a step by step guide on how to do it
2. I also see that there is 2 froyo builds and was wondering which one is better.
3. Also is Froyo stable on the nook or is it really glitchy? Compared to the stock rooted nook?
4. Once you install froyo is it reversible (go back to the stock build?)
Any help would be greatly appreciated!!
Thanks
Gunner
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I have not received my nook yet, but doing some prep for installing nookie froyo, it just takes a bit of time and searching to find the info you're looking for (some of it external to XDA)
1. http://forum.androidcentral.com/barnes-noble-nook-color/ check the stickies for how-tos
2. i believe there is an "official" one and a customized one that someone built from the official 0.6.8 version. I'm going to use the customized one as it comes with the oc kernel
3. From what I read, auto-nooter would be the MOST stable but Nookie Froyo is almost as stable and gives you the benefits of Froyo instead of Eclair. The other ones (HC and CM7) are coming along but aren't quite there yet.
4. Yes you can go back. With the Nook Color being able to boot from SD card, it's unlikely to ever be "stuck" on something.
Again, that's just from what i read i have no experience (yet). hope to get the nook color this week or next.
If you want to use the B&N stock apps, stay on stock eclair and just root that because you will lose all that functionality when you flash NF or CM7 or any other variations. I haven't used NF but from what I read, it's second most stable next to rooted stock eclair.
barrist said:
I have not received my nook yet, but doing some prep for installing nookie froyo, it just takes a bit of time and searching to find the info you're looking for (some of it external to XDA)
1. http://forum.androidcentral.com/barnes-noble-nook-color/ check the stickies for how-tos
2. i believe there is an "official" one and a customized one that someone built from the official 0.6.8 version. I'm going to use the customized one as it comes with the oc kernel
3. From what I read, auto-nooter would be the MOST stable but Nookie Froyo is almost as stable and gives you the benefits of Froyo instead of Eclair. The other ones (HC and CM7) are coming along but aren't quite there yet.
4. Yes you can go back. With the Nook Color being able to boot from SD card, it's unlikely to ever be "stuck" on something.
Again, that's just from what i read i have no experience (yet). hope to get the nook color this week or next.
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Thanks for the link i finally got froyo on my nook, but i can not for the life of me figure out how to get the market and the google apps on it, everytime i try to run the commands i get errors
Im pretty new to it too. got mine about a week ago. some of the stuff is pretty overwhelming at first, especially anything to do with adb. cant figure that out for the life of me.
anyways, the easiest way ive found so far is this thread
[ROM] Customized Nookie Froyo 0.6.8 Image for SDcard Updated (2/25)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=922324
its a custom build of froyo and already has everything needed installed. its fast, and so far, very stable. im running an 8gb class 4 sd card. it does seem to matter what you use.
here is a thread that has a small list of cards known to work and not work
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=946896
pretty much everything you need is in the instructions. use any of the programs they tell you to use for things. it justs makes it easier, even if there are alternatives.
good luck. its not that bad.
I'm sorry if this is has been answered before but i'm a noob, but an actively learning noob =) There is so much information in these forums but it can be highly overwhelming with so much info out there and hundreds of pages, it's like finding a needle in a hay stack.
1. I'm unsure exactly what a kernel is.
2. I am currently running CWR 3.0.0.5 w/ (Nookie Froyo Custom 0.6.8). Can I / Should I update to CWR 3.0.1.0 even if I stick w/ Froyo? Will the update overwrite my system forcing me to reinstall everything?
3. I saw something about Tablet tools (or something similar in name). Does that get installed in CWR just like Google Apps? Do I install before or after the ROM (Froyo Custom / CM7)?
I would like to go to CM7. But am curious about different Kernels such as Darlingtons OC. Any other recommendations? I currently use SetCPU at 1.1 in Froyo w/ no problems.
Thank you for your help in advanced and to all the amazing devlopers out there!
~J
First off, read more before attempting anything. I cannot stress enough that you should always be sure you understand exactly what you are doing, even if you're unsure how the process works, otherwise if something goes wrong and you weren't sure what exactly was happening you'll be kicking yourself later.
The kernel is the part of an operating system that actually makes the software and hardware talk to eachother in a sane manner, read: it makes everyone play nice hopefully. CM7 does include one in the image but if you read further on how to flash stuff you can replace the stock one with an overclockable version if you'd like.
Some of the documentation I've found can be a touch confusing if you're new to Android to be sure, I'd reccommend reading thinkgs a few more times and asking questions about specific tutorials, it will help get you started in the direction you'd like to go.
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jabrams said:
1. I'm unsure exactly what a kernel is.
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Kernel, in OS terms I answered above, in Android terms it's basically the same except how it is updated vs on say a Linux PC is different, isnted of just installing it normally you have to "Flash" a separate file, more on that in response to #4.
jabrams said:
2. I am currently running CWR 3.0.0.5 w/ (Nookie Froyo Custom 0.6.8). Can I / Should I update to CWR 3.0.1.0 even if I stick w/ Froyo? Will the update overwrite my system forcing me to reinstall everything?
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I have CWR 3.0.1.0 and it works great, I am not aware of it overwriting previously installed ROMs but I'm not a CWR dev so take that with a large grain of salt.
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3. I saw something about Tablet tools (or something similar in name). Does that get installed in CWR just like Google Apps? Do I install before or after the ROM (Froyo Custom / CM7)?
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Link to the thread in question, I'm not sure what you're asking about on this one.
jabrams said:
I would like to go to CM7. But am curious about different Kernels such as Darlingtons OC. Any other recommendations? I currently use SetCPU at 1.1 in Froyo w/ no problems.
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CM7 comes with its own kernel but Darlington's OC kernel works amazingly well, he has packages that you can flash via CMR just like you would GApps, just make sure you grab the one that is right for your install of CM7 (SD or EMMC depending).
Hope that helps
I have had my Bionic for a while now and have been thinking about rooting it. I finally got the ICS update but have been using GO Launcher too much to even notice it. Anyway, like I said, I want to root my phone. I am current on all updates. For some reason it's running at a tenth of it's memory tho not much is running that I can see. This leads me to believe there's things running in the background that I can not see. I am reluctant to get rid of all my apps, but I also don't want anything that's eating all my resources either. I kinda want to start new but kinda don't. I guess I just don't like letting go of anything.
I know this is selfish of me, but I am hoping that this thread will stay clean of others chiming in asking about their issues. I just don't want the thread to lose focus since this is about what I hope to get from my phone.
Ok, so here are my questions or favors to ask:
Since my phone is fully updated, do I need to do some other updated steps for rooting my phone or is rooting always the same no matter the build or version?
When I go to root my phone, I back up everything first and then I get it back, right?
I read somewhere that it's possible to brick the phone. What precautions should I take to avoid that?
Can I get all the benefits of a rooted phone without a ROM?
Are ROMs really that awesome that I should get one, or three?
I am interested in a ROM after some posts and pages I read. I was attracted to CM at first but so is everyone else probably at first. Does CM even work on the Bionic? And if it does, does everything work like the camera and Bluetooth?
As I said earlier, I use GO Launcher. One of the things I really like about it is the folders I can make in the App Drawer. Now CM is based off of ADW Launcher, but no options to make folders in the app drawer? Is it possible in any way if I choose CM as my main ROM?
Is CM overrated? Liberty and Eclipse look nice too. I also read a little, very little, about AOKP. Any suggestions? I want to get rid of a lot of extra processes and bloatware but I don't want to lose some of the apps pre-installed like Google Maps and Navigation, etc. Unless there are other, much better replacements that anyone knows of.
I know most of this is personal preference but I am hoping to find a comprehensive way at figuring out what's best for me.
I had more questions but I will wait and ask more as the thread continues.
Oh, I don't really need answers in step by step unless I ask. A simple link would suffice unless it's not covered anywhere.
Thanks for reading this, I hope I am not frustrating anyone as I am sure similar posts have been made.
You're basically asking to have this entire forum summarized into one post...
Spend some time reading, then ask smaller, more concise questions.
Not trying to sound like a ****, but i could spend an hour answering all of that. Half of those questions could be answered with some reading of the ROM specific threads.
Sent from my DROID BIONIC using Tapatalk 2
Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
CycoPuppet said:
Ok, I know that SOME of the questions are answered somewhere else. The thing is that after I read one thread only to find it unsolved, I read others that are are 50 pages long going nowhere as well. I haven't seen anything about my phone being fully updated and I am not going any further until I know for sure from someone like a DEV that I can.
Some of these questions are yes/no questions, which wouldn't take long at all to answer, maybe even less time it takes to write a complaint about my post. I certainly don't expect one person to write for an hour on every topic I asked about. I thought it would be a collective effort.
I guess I will take this slowly.
Since my Droid Bionic is updated to the current versions, do I need to do this differently than others have used in the past to root this phone?
Where is the best method to do this?
Before I start, I have to backup everything, right? If so, what's the best way to go about backing up everything?
I read somewhere that there are 3 things you should do to make sure you avoid bricking. I have since lost it. Does anybody know a surefire way to do this.
Please be gentle.
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter http://www.droidrzr.com/index.php/topic/4026-samurihls-house-of-bionic/
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
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1st question . No, your phone is not special since it is updated what worked for others will work for you.
2nd follow this link and the instructions to the letter Can not post links
3rd . Since you are stock. I would suggest using Verizon's back up services. TiBu requires root. IMHO I wouldn't bother because Google automatically backs up contacts and most roms require you to do a full data wipe.
There is no magic formula to keep from bricking your phone. Just follow directions and if you can't tolerate the risk don't do it.
From my EVOLVED bionic
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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That link no longer works
Also I found an article named "Learn How-To Root, Custom Recovery, Backup, And De-Bloat Your DROID BIONIC" while searching around for ROM ideas and such. Anyway, after reading this, it almost seems as if I don't need to do factory reset. Is this ok?
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Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: http://droidbionicroot.com/droid-bionic-root/how-to-root-ics-on-droid-bionic-and-motorola-android/
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
Ratamacue said:
Just last week I started with a stock ICS Bionic and followed this guide to root: Can not post links
That went very well. I wanted to try out JB 4.2.2, so I installed SafeStrap and an official CM 10.1 nightly. The net result was that I had a very unstable phone until I did a factory reset . As of this writing, however, it's behaving extremely well. YMMV.
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
Oh one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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Ok, so you flashed the ROM, didn't work so well, then you did a factory reset. Doesn't a factory reset wipe the phone? If that's the case, doesn't it wipe out the ROM?
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No, a factory data reset doesn't wipe the ROM, but it does require running the initial setup (as if you were setting up a brand new phone).
CycoPuppet said:
...one more thing. Following this link, does this wipe the data from my phone? Anything I should back up before doing this? Should I do any updates before flashing CM 10?
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You definitely want to back up everything you're not willing to lose. I ran a backup the very first thing after installing SafeStrap, and it was a good thing because with all my messing around I managed to bork my stock ROM to the point that it wouldn't boot. Fortunately, all I had to do was restore it from a backup.
My phone on CM 10.1 had enough issues with freezing and crashing that I decided this morning to try a different ROM. So far, I've had really good results with Icarus HD (a custom ICS ROM). I really don't know if my experience with CM 10.1 was typical.
OK, so I want to root. Now does rooting wipe any data? Regarding Safestrap, I install that first before rooting?
Rooting doesn't wipe any data. Root first, then install SafeStrap.
Okay, I will be rooting and installing safestrap when I get home for work today. I will still have more questions I am sure. I do have a few before I actually start rooting or right after.
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
CycoPuppet said:
I know safestrap makes a backup/recovory, but is it full recovery only or can I recover portions, like say my Dolphin browser with the settings and bookmarks?
I read that when making a backup of stock ROM, use sdcard, I'm sure that means external but when flashing a ROM, will that wipe data from the external card?
When setting up slots for multi booting ROMs, gernally how much storage do they need?
If I have two different ROMs, does it act like user accounts in Windows, would I have to download the same app on each ROM or do both ROMs have access?
Can one ROM have stuff I don't want the other ROM to have visible?
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1. SafeStrap is full recovery only. Use Titanium Backup for backing up apps and data.
2. Flashing a ROM won't do anything to your external SD card.
3. When you set up ROM slots, you'll be asked how much room you'd like to allocate for data. The choices are 1, 2, or 3 GB. I started off allocating 3 GB to the stock ROM slot and was never able to load more than 3 separate ROMs before I ran out of room. I'd start with just using 1 GB for data.
4. Each ROM is an island. You have to download the apps separately (unless when you go through the initial setup you tell the system to restore apps and settings from the Google servers.)
Cool. I rooted and got safestrap but it's version 3.05 and not 3.11. Some ROM I was interested in said must have 3.11, which I am assuming that's the newest one so far. I did watch a tutorial about getting the current version, so no question there.
So the ROMs are separate islands and during flashing they can be in slots allocated up to 3GB. Does that mean that's the only amount of storage I can have when running that ROM? Say I like taking lots of photos and didn't save them to my external card, could I essentially run out of space or is the storage allocation just for the ROM itself and any updates it may have?
Sorry about these series of questions, just want to make sure I am doing it correctly in case I might make a mistake for future's sake.
The storage allocation is for the ROM, apps, and data that haven't been assigned to the external SD card. You can definitely run out of space if you load several ROMs and don't save any of your data to the external SD card.
Also, keep in mind that when VZW sends the OTA update to 4.1 next week, the only way to keep root is to root in ICS and use Voodoo OTA Rootkeeper to protect root before you take the OTA. If you flash the system image, you will lose root, and there is no known working root exploit for the Bionic JB release.
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Hey, I used Voodoo before flashing the 4.1 update, but forgot to update the binary beforehand, and therefore lost root. Anyone have any luck yet with an exploit for the OTA?
And there's no working FXZ before this now, correct? This software is now the earliest version I can FXZ to?
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Not root exploit yet for bionic JB. And if you try to FXZ back to an earlier version, you will brick your phone.
OK, so I rooted, got safestrap tho still not updated to 3.11, got TBU (free), got Voodoo. I had to race the clock today cuz it was updating android, or at least downloading the update. The root process I used gave me SuperSU and didn't tell me the version for the SU binaries. I searched around and all I could find was info on SuperUser in regards to backing up root. I uninstalled SuperSU, kinda. I just told it to use a different SU cuz when I used SuperUser and updated the binaries, SuperSU wanted to update them, then I opened SuperUser and the binaries reverted back. I was worried so I just told SuperSU to use a different SU. Was that ok? I didn't update to JB yet. Has there been luck with the Bionic using voodoo and keeping root after the JB update?
All this back and forth means I'm making a full image backup, then trying various ROMs. I've tried CM10.1, too many issues (no car dock, trouble installing lots of apps, no speakerphone). Next is... Whizzed Bean?
EDIT: Seems Speakerphone issue was fixed in the 0420 nightly. Will have to try it again.
AND I copied all the backups to my PC, so I can restore them at will (provided the phone still boots, that is... )
If I can't find a JB ROM I like I guess I can do HouseofBionic reflash (which did NOT cause me to lose data, as I upgraded to ICS that way) then allow the JB OTA to go through.
*sigh*... So much bull**** in these updates.
Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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Hope someone sees my question above. I still haven't updated to JB yet. Once I do I will be flashing ROMs. I am interested in CM, Liquid Smooth, Icarus Hd and Wizzed Bean or Synergy (executioner ) Both WB and Synergy look indentical. What is the differences.
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WB is a fork of CNA (codename Android) 4.1 JB (which is itself based on AOSP)
while Synergy is a fork of the standard Moto ICS (.246).
Yes, they look identical because they both used the Samsung UI elements.