Hi,
I recently started trying out new ROMs and am wondering if I could divorce myself from the PC if I performed an Odin 1-click restore to stock then did a Nandroid backup of that installation.
Then in the future would restoring to stock via the Nandroid backup of stock be equivalent of the Odin 1-click?
Then I could flash ROMs w/o any connection to PC.
Thanks much for sharing,
Fred
no, cwm does not backup kernel or modem, so if you were to flash a 2.2 ROM and try to restore to 2.1 ROM, you'd be running a 2.2 kernel with 2.1 ROM and be stuck in a recovery bootloop.
ODIN one-click/heimdall or a pre-packaged CWM flashable zip of stock are really your only options. nandroid is mostly a bust on our devices.
Thanks much!
How necessary is it to return to stock prior to flashing new?
How can I get a pre-packaged CWM flashable .zip?
Not needed to flash stock
If there is a prepackaged flashable zip to get back to stock...could someone please provide a link?
Thank you
Not really a flashable cmw stock zip for jf6
Design gears did release a jh7 , package
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Could anyone told me what's the relationship between Odin and Rom Manager
I wanna upgrade captivate from 2.1 to 2.2, so i read some guides
It seems that some guides told me use odin and need the adb shell or combine keys to enter downloading mode.And then flash the pit,and csc,phone,pda.
But meanwhile, some guides said just put the rom in sd card and reboot the phone by Rom Manager.
So i get confused,could anyone told me which should i listen?
By the way,if the phone is locked 3 keys, does rom manager still work?
Odin is the a flashing tool that is run from the PC. Rom Manager is a tool that is run from the phone itself. It depends on what rom you want to flash, some of them are built to be flashed from Odin, and as such won't flash with Rom Manager and vice versa. Other than they are both flashing tools they don't really have a connection.
As to the question regarding if rom manager will work with no-button-combo phones, I'm pretty sure it will, but don't quote me on it.
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Odin is the a flashing tool that is run from the PC. Rom Manager is a tool that is run from the phone itself. It depends on what rom you want to flash, some of them are built to be flashed from Odin, and as such won't flash with Rom Manager and vice versa. Other than they are both flashing tools they don't really have a connection.
As to the question regarding if rom manager will work with no-button-combo phones, I'm pretty sure it will, but don't quote me on it.
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Thanks,you means these two tools can do exactly the same thing,but the rom source is different?
The rom manager can use a .zip rom contains data/META-INF/system etc. folders?
And the Odin should flash the rom which contains *.pit,*.tar,*.tar.md5 ?
By the way, i saw the 2.1 don't support the recovery etc. from apps, does that means rom manager doesn't work in 2.1? (I already read the 2.2 guide, and it said just use the rom manager)
Yeah, both are tools used to flash roms to your phone. However a rom made to be flashed by odin can't be flashed with Rom Manager, and a rom made to be flashed by Rom Manager can't be flashed with Odin. Some developers make two versions of the same rom so that you can flash it with your preferred method.
The last thing you mentioned is backwards... 2.1 uses recovery 2e which allows for the use of self-signed update.zips (this is what RomManager uses to get into clockwork recovery which is a modified recovery that does the actual flashing). However 2.2 uses recovery 3e which doesn't allow for this.
This means that if your on 2.1 presently you can flash with RomManager (you can even use RomManager to flash from 2.1 to 2.2), but if your using 2.2 your only flashing option is to use Odin.
Once on 2.2 you can use Odin to flash a modified 2e recovery that works with froyo and you will once again be able to use self-signed zips. (some of the unofficial roms like cognition do this automatically so you don't have to)
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Yeah, both are tools used to flash roms to your phone. However a rom made to be flashed by odin can't be flashed with Rom Manager, and a rom made to be flashed by Rom Manager can't be flashed with Odin. Some developers make two versions of the same rom so that you can flash it with your preferred method.
The last thing you mentioned is backwards... 2.1 uses recovery 2e which allows for the use of self-signed update.zips (this is what RomManager uses to get into clockwork recovery which is a modified recovery that does the actual flashing). However 2.2 uses recovery 3e which doesn't allow for this.
This means that if your on 2.1 presently you can flash with RomManager (you can even use RomManager to flash from 2.1 to 2.2), but if your using 2.2 your only flashing option is to use Odin.
Once on 2.2 you can use Odin to flash a modified 2e recovery that works with froyo and you will once again be able to use self-signed zips. (some of the unofficial roms like cognition do this automatically so you don't have to)
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Hmmm, can this be the problem i got? Flashed from JH to Cognition 2.2B6 via rom manager, and made a backup before. Now when i'm trying to flash back the backed up JH (2.1) rom my phone is stuck on AT&T screen....
edit: with cognition 2.2 i still got 2e recovery and not 3e....
Thanks,I think i got it. It seems that developer in China always package the rom into Odin struct, so i didn't tried Rom Manager.
And dimab, I think what you need is search "Captivate JI6 kernel with "2e recovery" enabled" (I can't post link since i was new user)
rogerhe said:
Thanks,I think i got it. It seems that developer in China always package the rom into Odin struct, so i didn't tried Rom Manager.
And dimab, I think what you need is search "Captivate JI6 kernel with "2e recovery" enabled" (I can't post link since i was new user)
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thanks
I've seen this topic, but i do actually got the 2e recovery running, so what's the point?
dimab said:
Hmmm, can this be the problem i got? Flashed from JH to Cognition 2.2B6 via rom manager, and made a backup before. Now when i'm trying to flash back the backed up JH (2.1) rom my phone is stuck on AT&T screen....
edit: with cognition 2.2 i still got 2e recovery and not 3e....
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well first off you still have 2e because Cog 2.2 Beta 6 uses a modified 2e recovery (its modified to work with froyo)
I think that when you create a backup of your rom with RomManager it doesn't include a backup of the kernel. If so when you tried to flash your 2.1 backup it never switched your kernal back to a 2.1 compatible version. hence the not booting past the att screen.
You might want to try flashing just the kernal (not the whole rom) with ODIN... Or even easier if you have your backup on your computer you can odin 1click back to stock, put your backup back on your phone, and flash the backup again with RomManager.
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well first off you still have 2e because Cog 2.2 Beta 6 uses a modified 2e recovery (its modified to work with froyo)
I think that when you create a backup of your rom with RomManager it doesn't include a backup of the kernel. If so when you tried to flash your 2.1 backup it never switched your kernal back to a 2.1 compatible version. hence the not booting past the att screen.
You might want to try flashing just the kernal (not the whole rom) with ODIN... Or even easier if you have your backup on your computer you can odin 1click back to stock, put your backup back on your phone, and flash the backup again with RomManager.
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Woah, this did helped! HUGE thanks! First time used Odin 1Click and it was smooth, and then restored my 2.1 backup.
Didn't needed to backup on computer the rom backups, since everything was left the same...
Dima
hi,
i'm going to flash a custom ROM to my i896, i'm currently on stock ROM + speedmod k12t, have already disable lagfix, and backup all data.
i did researched, but what i want to know is not there.
i know i need to be on stock ROM to before flash, since i'm on stock rom, i still have some questions
so i got 2 questions:
1. do i need to flash back to restore kernel before flashing ROM?
2. after flashed ROM, do i need to flash the speedmod kernel aagain?
thank you.
bbto said:
hi,
i'm going to flash a custom ROM to my i896, i'm currently on stock ROM + speedmod k12t, have already disable lagfix, and backup all data.
i did researched, but what i want to know is not there.
i know i need to be on stock ROM to before flash, since i'm on stock rom, i still have some questions
so i got 2 questions:
1. do i need to flash back to restore kernel before flashing ROM?
2. after flashed ROM, do i need to flash the speedmod kernel aagain?
thank you.
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1. no, you don't need to flash to the stock kernel;
2. usually the rom comes with certain version of kernel, you can definitely replace it if you want to use the latest speedmod, for example.
thank you so much.
i got another question
i use odin3 to flash ROM
i put the ROM file in the PDA section. leave phone and CSC blank.
but what should i put in PIT section?
bbto said:
thank you so much.
i got another question
i use odin3 to flash ROM
i put the ROM file in the PDA section. leave phone and CSC blank.
but what should i put in PIT section?
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usually i only use odin3 to flash to the stock rom. you need to put .pit file in the PIT and a tar file in PDA.
but since you are flashing to a custom rom, usually you can get the cwm file and use cwm to flash. it is easy and quick.
yes root phone grab rom manager from app market is easy as pie
grab files 2 flash put them in sd card by phone browser or with usb cable and pc, flash with rom mamanger is easy as 1 2 3
if any more help is needed ill c if i can find thread link tonight also there is a vids on Congnition 3.04 thread makes life easy sence your stock allready u can skip odin if u like but that is perfered way
When I flash new roms, I drop zip onto my sd then boot CWrecovery, then flash zip from clockwork recovery, without using rom manager. I had an issue restoring a nandroid backup i made using Rom manager (md5 sum issue?) and i couldn't restore the backup. I read somewhere this can happen from time to time. Rom Manager is good, you can rename your backups. Flashing roms gets addictive!!
qsaxus said:
When I flash new roms, I drop zip onto my sd then boot CWrecovery, then flash zip from clockwork recovery, without using rom manager. I had an issue restoring a nandroid backup i made using Rom manager (md5 sum issue?) and i couldn't restore the backup. I read somewhere this can happen from time to time. Rom Manager is good, you can rename your backups. Flashing roms gets addictive!!
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About the md5 sum error, sometimes having spaces in your backup name will make it say that. Remove spaces and it should work again.
Sent from my CM9 ICS i897 Captivate
well, i have had some issues flashing my phone to 2.3, and it is currently on continuum v5.5 working fine for a few versions. so i don't want to rush into anything and mess it up again, but i want to try another rom. im a little confused to what all i need to do to get the new phoenix rom on coming from a talon kernel.
thanks!
Just use ODIN ONE CLICK STOCK (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989 and then place the rom of ur choice and flash it in CWM!! tell me if u need anything else
Odin back to stock and follow instructions in the OP for the Pheonix thread.
You need to verify that your current installed kernel is compatible with your new rom of choice.
If not:
1. Find one that is compatible, install it via odin without rebooting - then boot to recovery and install the zip file in cwm.
OR
2. Odin one click to stock and go from scratch.
If going from GB to GB rom then the important thing is the kernel compatibility or you will likely go into bootloop. Other than that wipe, reset and install.
Hi to all im new in this section as you can prob tell fro my user name i just come from a se x8.
my q is if i flash Macław ics rom can i flash back to GB in cwm or do i need to use odin as all phones a different my x8 could flash any rom in any order but my friend samsung g s 1 need to use odin if flash form ics to gb
thanks mol3y
You need Odin to flash a stock rom from any rom.
And from next time --grammar--
Don't be a noob. Be a newbie..!!
Details here.
shaaan said:
You need Odin to flash a stock rom from any rom.
And from next time --grammar--
Don't be a noob. Be a newbie..!!
Details here.
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I know that i can only flash stock GB in odin. But im on about GB rom. IE:custom not stock.
p.s not a noob or a newbie been on xda a long time
Odin to flash stock, to any version from any version always odin for stock.
Except if you own a deodexed flashable stock rom with ext4 file system (so it isn't really stock), then you can flash it with cwm recovery without getting corrupted system partition.
The thing is, custom roms have ext4 file system, wtock roms have rfs. You have to convert the file system before flashing stock or restoring stock rom backup. The easiest way to do this is odin.
So I got together a few stock ROMs I want to flash over my Slimsaber, I'm currently on the TWRP recovery.
A lot of the flashing steps mention using CWM but how does TWRP fit into this? Is it the same as CWM?
Can I flash these stock ROMs the same way I used to flash Slimsaber? Most of them seem to be flashable zips and don't need Odin.
Stock rom are tar files and Odin can flash it. But if you are referring to TW based custom rom then yes TWRP can flash those too. It's just like CWM.