NOTE: Samsung's Car Home and Desk Home apps are now officially available from the Market. These versions work with the audio out and should likely be used instead of the apps I posted below.
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Many of us have been upset that the audio-out doesn't work on the docks as promised, but it seems that the answer is as easy as needing the right app! These are not my apps and not am I hosting them (I can if needed to, but I expect this to be a short term need once the real apps are available). I'm just passing on the information that a forum member, Vivified, pointed out to us in a different thread. The Samsung dock apps enable the functionality we desire, however they are currently not available in the Market to the Epic, likely due to our build.prop version not yet being updated for protected apps downloadable. The links below have been verified to enable the audio-out on both docks. There is a speaker icon on each app that needs to be tapped if the audio is coming from the phone still, that will mute the phone speaker and only give the audio-out from the dock.
I have only personally verified the output from the car dock app, though others have tried the desk dock. All other functionality, at the surface level, seems normal with these apps, but I present no guarantees.
Samsung Desk Home
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So does this make it so you can hook up your phone to the auxilary plug in a car and talk on it and hear someone through your car speakers?
davidrules7778 said:
So does this make it so you can hook up your phone to the auxilary plug in a car and talk on it and hear someone through your car speakers?
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you can already do that.
davidrules7778 said:
So does this make it so you can hook up your phone to the auxilary plug in a car and talk on it and hear someone through your car speakers?
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You can do that with a bluetooth and car kit, not sure about the audio on the call though, I will check that on my way home.
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You can do that with a bluetooth and car kit, not sure about the audio on the call though, I will check that on my way home.
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Let me know, im going to try it using bonsai rom right now, 2.1 rom the mic wont work if its plugged in the auxilary, however you can hear the other person via auxilary..
what exactly is this? i use my phone in my car all the time through auxilary cable. and when a call comes in i can answer it and talk through my cars system. so what is this for??
works great. my old copy didnt have the extra toggles. only one for brightness.
happy!
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what exactly is this? i use my phone in my car all the time through auxilary cable. and when a call comes in i can answer it and talk through my cars system. so what is this for??
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This is what I wanted to know, are u on 2.2 cause 2.1 wouldn't let me talk while it was pluflgged in.
Thanks hopefully thus will work for me.
Sent from My Eb13 Modem, With old bonsai epic 4g.
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This is what I wanted to know, are u on 2.2 cause 2.1 wouldn't let me talk while it was pluflgged in.
Thanks hopefully thus will work for me.
Sent from My Eb13 Modem, With old bonsai epic 4g.
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2.2 worked perfect with he auxillary cord
I would have my epic plugged into my rooms stereo and it'd ring and id be able to talk through the speakers lolol
But I do remember while I was on di18, the mic wouldn't work. The speakers would, but the person wouldn't be able to hear me at all
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2.2 worked perfect with he auxillary cord
I would have my epic plugged into my rooms stereo and it'd ring and id be able to talk through the speakers lolol
But I do remember while I was on di18, the mic wouldn't work. The speakers would, but the person wouldn't be able to hear me at all
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Awesome, going to upgrade my dads phone he's been wanting that feuture! And me too, which I can use now.
Sent from My Eb13 Modem, With old bonsai epic 4g.
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I have only personally verified the output from the car dock app, though others have tried the desk dock.
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Just tried both apps with the desktop dock and navigation mount, they both work as advertised.
Only caveat I've noticed is that if you switch from one dock to the other, you have to kill the music player otherwise it won't output to the lineout.
Any chance of ever getting Pandora to work with this?
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If you plug into the aux out of the dock, this doesn't work for me. Only for music.
-Roger
mykie242 said:
Just tried both apps with the desktop dock and navigation mount, they both work as advertised.
Only caveat I've noticed is that if you switch from one dock to the other, you have to kill the music player otherwise it won't output to the lineout.
Any chance of ever getting Pandora to work with this?
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I was listening to pandora with it already. Just hit the little speaker button when docked. Seems to work with everything that is controlled with the media volume.
-Roger
roghaj said:
I was listening to pandora with it already. Just hit the little speaker button when docked. Seems to work with everything that is controlled with the media volume.
-Roger
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Awesome, thanks!
I had to hold down the "Home" button to switch over to Pandora, since while docked the car/dock application takes over the device (even takes Pandora out of the Notifications).
Now I'm happy! I can finally use my car and desktop docks the way I wanted to from the beginning!
It would be nice to have a customisable set of programs for the screen... I'm sure we can pull the app apart and put whatever we want in there, but truly customisable through a menu would be ideal.
I didn't get a chance to try the car speakers yesterday, I realised my aux cable isn't long enough so I need to get an extension.
I think now that the initial buzz of a feature being fixed has worn off, I realize something very disturbing...
The audio out sounds terrible. It's all scratchy, like you're watching an old RealPlayer movie on an old-school Sound Blaster.
There's definitely some kind of downsampling going on and it sucks.
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I think now that the initial buzz of a feature being fixed has worn off, I realize something very disturbing...
The audio out sounds terrible. It's all scratchy, like you're watching an old RealPlayer movie on an old-school Sound Blaster.
There's definitely some kind of downsampling going on and it sucks.
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Mine didn't sound perfect, but was pretty good. I could only notice a little static during the silence between songs when I had it cranked. I will compare the amount of static between the dock and the aux cable plugged straight into the phone. I will let you know what I find.
-Roger
thanks alot i can finally use my dock works flawlessly i don't get why this wasn't mentioned in the docks manual.
I noticed that too. Part of the problem is the charging causing some kind of distortion. Take out the usb cable if you don't need to charge your phone. It will make sound better.
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haas599 said:
I noticed that too. Part of the problem is the charging causing some kind of distortion. Take out the usb cable if you don't need to charge your phone. It will make sound better.
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Get a ground loop isolator.
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Hi there,
the included headset has this nice small control element for the music player but sadly you cant unplug the headphones and use your own ones. I checked HTC's website for a small adapter, so i could use my own.
But sadly the adapter only offers a call accept/call end-button, no player controls.
Does anyone know a good headset/adapter with player controls like this, but for 3,5mm, working with the HD2?
Thanks!
wait a minute... you cant use your own 3.5mm headphones? that would blow. i hope you misunderstood you.
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wait a minute... you cant use your own 3.5mm headphones? that would blow. i hope you misunderstood you.
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Nono, you didnt get me right^^...you can use your own, but then you have no microphone and no music player control through this small control unit.
What i want is to disconnect the headphones near the control unit so that i can use the microphone/control unit from HTC with my own headphones! But there needs to be another 3,5mm jack on the control unit...but obviously there isnt...
The link ive included in my previous post shows what i mean, its a headset from HTC for the Hero.
Hi there,
Why don't you use Shure SE530? It may not have the controls you are looking for ... but the sound ... ... just makes you forget all the things you have "thought" you wanted =)
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Hi there,
Why don't you use Shure SE530? It may not have the controls you are looking for ... but the sound ... ... just makes you forget all the things you have "thought" you wanted =)
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Cause i dont want to spent half of the money the HD2 cost me for a pair of headphones God damnit, those things are expensive!
I wanna have the best of both worlds, thats why i would like to see this remote control with a separate 3,5mm jack for my own headphones...
I won Zagg headphones - good sound quality and it has a control button and hardware volume control. The button works with HD2 - you can stop/pause in the HTC Player. I did not check what it does during a call.
HTC <3's us..
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/cy/p_htc_item.aspx?i=188904
ah! no play / pause button :-(
rich_13 said:
HTC <3's us..
http://www.htcaccessorystore.com/cy/p_htc_item.aspx?i=188904
ah! no play / pause button :-(
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Yeah, i found those ones too...but sadly no play/pause...
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Yeah, i found those ones too...but sadly no play/pause...
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On the headphones that are included the answer/hangup button also performs the play/pause function. So I think they should work for you. Just no Fast Frorward/Rewind/Skip function.
maybe you can try bluetooth headset. I have Samsung SBH-500, sound quality is brilliant, and it have controls exactly what you need... (plus volume controls )
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On the headphones that are included the answer/hangup button also performs the play/pause function. So I think they should work for you. Just no Fast Frorward/Rewind/Skip function.
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Yeah, i know that...but doesnt matter if the headphones on this headset are crap (no in ears -> crap for me )
-Vulture- said:
Yeah, i know that...but doesnt matter if the headphones on this headset are crap (no in ears -> crap for me )
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I agree! That's why I took out the soldering iron (and looking glass) and mounted my Sennheiser CX400-II's on the control unit of the standard headphones.
What I meant to say was that the HS U350 set may work for you because the one button should probably have the same double function as the middle one on the standard headphones
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I agree! That's why I took out the soldering iron (and looking glass) and mounted my Sennheiser CX400-II's on the control unit of the standard headphones.
What I meant to say was that the HS U350 set may work for you because the one button should probably have the same double function as the middle one on the standard headphones
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Great tip!
So you don't even lose microphone, because it's in this button housing right? First time, that you can do something with this equipment
Donald24 said:
Great tip!
So you don't even lose microphone, because it's in this button housing right? First time, that you can do something with this equipment
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Yeah, maybe thats the only choice we have left, if HTC is not able to get another type of headset out in the next weeks...
wont chopping and soldering headphones create massive oxidisation of the lead. Not to mention the increases resistance for the signal to go through poor quality copper cable then suddenly in to good quality OFC copper.
You'd probably lose 50% of the quality the Sennheiser are supposed to punch out.
If controlling music is the problem then you will either need to solder an existing control pad onto your headphones or use something like the rce100 that lets you use your own headphones.
If it's just the mic you need then you will probably be able to use your headphones as I've currently got the westone um3x (which has no inbuilt) mic attached to the hd2 and the phone automatically routes calls to the hd2's inbuilt mic when i'm listening to music with mortplayer. So provided your hd2 isn't out of reach you will be able to listen through your headphones and talk through the handset like on Nokias.
Does anyone know of anyone who creates mic/music controls that take your own headphones that might work? Doesn't the iFone support this? If I have to settle for play/pause only I will, but I'd like to keep the track skip if at all possible.
I have a pair of Bose earphones which are really nice, but it's much easier to hit the pause on the HTC 'phones when someone wants to distract me in work than turn the screen on, go back to the music screen, then hit pause.
I have one of these from MobileFun:
http://www.mobilefun.co.uk/apple-iphone-stereo-handsfree-adapter-p15226.htm
Less than £12. It has vol slider and call/answer, you plug in your own phones. The call button works as play/pause in WMP, Sense and PocketPlayer, but haven't been able to get it working in MortPlayer. If anyone has any tips for getting it working in MortPlayer I'd appreciate it!
i have this combo, that work very nice
http://www.amazon.de/Shure-iPhone-Music-Adapter-Mikrofon/dp/B000UD205K
http://www.ciao.de/Denon_AH_C_551__7747938
and this ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502881&highlight=audio
MadBastard said:
and this ^^
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=502881&highlight=audio
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with this cab you can use an iphone cable right??? that was what i was looking for!! thanks a lot!
but it also takes calls etc too right?
Is there a way to disable the music player from starting up automatically when I plug a speaker/head phone into the 3.5mm plug? I don't know what the phone is doing, but I don't always want to play music when I plug in a speaker to the phone.
jchap2k
im also having that issue and also the slightest movement of the headphone jack makes the music player constantly skip songs and its very annoying. We need to find a fix for this.
This also happen on bluetooth as well. When i get in the car and phone connects to radio the media player starts as well. Sucks, i haven't figured out how to stop this media player from auto starting.
? What, your guys music players starts automatically when you plug in the headphones?
Mine doesnt, and I wish it did. lol
Had this problem as well. Was more noticable when JIT was enabled on CM5.0b2. Haven't noticed it on 5.0b3 with JIT off, but that doesn't mean it's fixed... very annoying. As a work around (which might be why I'm no longer noticing it) I created a playlist with a single, short sound effect as the only 'song' in the playlist. I never use the default music player, or any player for music on my phone for that matter, so this was a pretty simple one-time work around. I remember when we had a very similar, if not the same problem, on Cyanogen's G1 rom, and I had used this same workaround.
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im also having that issue and also the slightest movement of the headphone jack makes the music player constantly skip songs and its very annoying. We need to find a fix for this.
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I've noticed the same thing on mine, too.
Omfg... I been having this same problem! I thought it was just me. LOL. Lets get this fixed pl!
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Had this problem as well. Was more noticable when JIT was enabled on CM5.0b2. Haven't noticed it on 5.0b3 with JIT off, but that doesn't mean it's fixed... very annoying. As a work around (which might be why I'm no longer noticing it) I created a playlist with a single, short sound effect as the only 'song' in the playlist. I never use the default music player, or any player for music on my phone for that matter, so this was a pretty simple one-time work around. I remember when we had a very similar, if not the same problem, on Cyanogen's G1 rom, and I had used this same workaround.
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Mine did this on the stock ROM. Now I'm on CM5B3+highmem, and haven't noticed it yet.
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Mine did this on the stock ROM. Now I'm on CM5B3+highmem, and haven't noticed it yet.
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I first noticed this problem on CM5B3. Happens any time I connect the phone to my speakers.
Weird, my Nexus doesn't do this. In fact I just added a feature (not released yet) to have it as an option! So, WTF?
I can't recall for sure, but I believe my phone did this when I had the stock rom on it. But since I started using Cyanogen's rom, I have yet to experience this.
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Weird, my Nexus doesn't do this. In fact I just added a feature (not released yet) to have it as an option! So, WTF?
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I wonder why some experience this and some don't. Did you try twisting the plug around once plugged in? Plug movement seems to trigger it for me, but once it starts I can't get it to stop until I just unplug the phone from the speakers.
Mine is completely random, and to make things worse, it's doing it to Pandora as well. I'll run through my '6 skips' an hour in mere minutes, and on accident. Very, very annoying... It happens not only randomly, but sometimes when I pick up the phone, or touch the 3.5mm jack in any way, but not 'every time' I touch it... it's incredibly odd... I really hope it's not a hardware fault
Ive actually been wishing for that option on my Droid lol. Lucky!
Are you guys using the stock headset? i think it only does it when you do. If you use others, it doesnt?
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Are you guys using the stock headset? i think it only does it when you do. If you use others, it doesnt?
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Not using a headset at all. Just a 3.5mm->3.5mm jack in my car
ArronL said:
Are you guys using the stock headset? i think it only does it when you do. If you use others, it doesnt?
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I found this issue when I tried to connect my phone to a Altec portable speaker.
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Not using a headset at all. Just a 3.5mm->3.5mm jack in my car
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Mine skips with a similar setup. Sometimes twisting the cable around in the jack helps. Still annoying.
I have seen this 'issue' reported on 3 other phones so far, the Tmobile Pulse (UK), Hero, G1, and now the Nexus One.
However the main thread i can think of was over at the MoDaCo forums, for the pulse.
http://android.modaco.com/content/t-mobile-pulse-pulse-modaco-com/301335/the-headphone-bug/
I have the same problem too. Gets real annoying when listing to an audiobook that's 10hrs long and it all of a sudden skips to the beginning. I think it has to do with how the headphone controls are implemented in hardware - shorting out the channels together or to ground - I lost my original headphones - and haven't wired up a pair to test. I think that "cheaper" headphone cables have less insulation between the channels which then shorts. I noticed this with a cheaper 1/8" to 1/8" adapter.. vs a sony gold plated one. (the channels were in separate insulation on the sony one). If there was only a way to turn off the headphone controls in the default media player, then it wouldn't happen... maybe i'll just remove it from the phone all together.
Hi, I've had v-moda headphones before and they are without a doubt my favorite. I'm wondering if this series works with the Dell Streak. By work I mean the buttons and the mic. If it does work with the Dell Steak this would best headphones you can get for it from my experience. So if anyone knows please let me know. Thanks!
Here is a link to the specific headphones I'm asking about. http://www.v-moda.com/headphones/remix.aspx
Volume buttons will not work. Action button will work for call answering. Headphones and mic will work.
Sweet, thats the only parts I really cared about. Great news, thanks!
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Volume buttons will not work. Action button will work for call answering. Headphones and mic will work.
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Well I bought the headphones. The volume keys don't work like you said, but the Mic does not work either. The mic was the main thing I wanted to work. Which doesn't make sense why it wouldn't because the threads are the exact same as on the stock Streak headphones that it came with. Would any other headphones (with a mic) work with the Streak? I really need a high quality headphones that work with this. I will probably be taking these back; even though I'll miss the superb sound.
If you guys have any new updates please let me know, however I don't believe I'll get the info I need in this thread so I'm going to create a new one that has a more broad title.
I had issues with third party headphones. Try rotating the plug and see if it works with different orientation. I'm not sure if this is a manufacturing issue or what though.
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I had issues with third party headphones. Try rotating the plug and see if it works with different orientation. I'm not sure if this is a manufacturing issue or what though.
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I tried rotating to all orientations with these headphones and the mic never seemed to work. I think this has something to do with the driver for three button headphones. I developed a review on a few here
The Samsung headphones that came with my tab do not work. They work a little if I pull the plug out part of the way but not when they are plugged in all the way. All other headphones work.
Are you sure you plugged them ALL THE WAY? If they're 100% in, the gold contact should be barely visible.
I thought they were in all the way but they weren't, had the same problem as you; you may need to push them a little
I think its the way the headphones are made. Ive had that issue, just gotta push a little harder than usual
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The Samsung headphones that came with my tab do not work. They work a little if I pull the plug out part of the way but not when they are plugged in all the way. All other headphones work.
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same mine. more than that....i went back to the shop, and I was very surprised when the sales man, show me what I was supposed to do........try to push a little harder than usually ....
You guys were right, I was not pushing them in all the way. I feel like a dumb ass but thank you all!
same here.
at first i thought that the left headphone doesnt work.
later i used them again, pushed a bit harder and the left one works ;-)
same here but not with stock headphones. Replaced them for "ALTEC LANSING Muzx Core" model, didn't push enough and thought they didn't work. good quality price value better than stock
my stock ones worked fine, but the headphones from my n900 didnt work at all =( wierd they seem to have the same 3 contacts i guess there switch around or something..
The stock headset is a big problem for me, it kept on falling out. Maybe I just don't know how to use these headset, I've replaced the soft rubbery thing with a bigger set that came with the headset and still won't stay in my ears. I tried the headset from my iphone and it works as a headphone but the mic doesn't seem to work when making calls. The control seem to be able to pause/play music. The volume control on the apple headset doesn't seem to be able to control the volume though. I need better headsets.
This is the only issue that I had with the stock headphones. The jack is TOO SMALL! I'm having a hard time removing it every time I need to! I'm scared that if I pull it using the cord it'll rip apart.
So far I, and everyone who's played with my Tab have had the same issue with plugging in Headphones. You really have to jam them in there...
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The Samsung headphones that came with my tab do not work. They work a little if I pull the plug out part of the way but not when they are plugged in all the way. All other headphones work.
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Ok either Tapatalk is trolling me or a mod is
"If I were two-faced, would I be wearing this one?"
- Abraham Lincoln (1809-1865)
I had the same problem
bluen25 said:
The Samsung headphones that came with my tab do not work. They work a little if I pull the plug out part of the way but not when they are plugged in all the way. All other headphones work.
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I think this is the build of Samsung stuff. I tried Apple headset one day. But the volume keys and the mic did not work. So is the answer button. Anyhow the out of the box headset is far more quality that the iPod ****. However I found out Addidas Schenheiser headset gives the best sound quality. It's like honey to the ears.
Apple headsets are flimsy easier broken yet expensive
So I have looked everywhere and havent really found the answer im looking for. First of all my headphones, also others i have tried including an aux cable dont seem to fit into the nook color headphone jack all the way. This is causing problems hearing sound in both ears, or getting any sound at all. I have to fidget to get it just right. Does anyone have any solution or similar problems? A specific pair that work?
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So I have looked everywhere and havent really found the answer im looking for. First of all my headphones, also others i have tried including an aux cable dont seem to fit into the nook color headphone jack all the way. This is causing problems hearing sound in both ears, or getting any sound at all. I have to fidget to get it just right. Does anyone have any solution or similar problems? A specific pair that work?
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It isn't broken. Just stick the headphone jack in and when it gets stuck just push on it until it goes in
My nook is like that and doing what I stated above will not break your nook or headphones
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Mine works fine with three sets of headphones and an Aux cable.
RoboRay said:
Mine works fine with three sets of headphones and an Aux cable.
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really?
i found mine to be a bit hard to plug in and unplug but im kind of use to it now, i just thought all nooks were like that
It requires a bit more force to insert and remove than other devices I have, but that also makes them harder to disconnect by accident. /shrug
They do work fine if you insert them all the way rather than stopping at the first click, as the tip slides past the ring contact, which may be what the OP is doing.
Wow... im a crackhead lol. Anyways thanks guys, sorry for wasting your time.
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ajd88 said:
Wow... im a crackhead lol. Anyways thanks guys, sorry for wasting your time.
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lol no problem it was a valid question and i was wondering the same thing when i first got my nook color, i just accidentally ran into the solution like 1 hour later lol
Yes, the headphone jack is extremely tight on the NC. I feel like I am going to break something every time I am plugging in the headphones. I am sure that they inserted completely. However, out of 5 "plug in and out" cycles, only 1 will yield the full spectrum of the frequencies for me. Specifically, there is no bass, all mids and highs. I have to plug and unplug few times to get sound with bass+the rest. I am not complaining that the bass is weak, there is simply no bass at all until you get a right "fit". I tried 5 different headphones (ranging from cheap iPod headphones to UE TripleFi 10) and different sources (e.g., Pandora, music player, etc), and the result was always the same.
Anybody else with this problem (i.e., complete lack of bass until you find the right "fit")?
3.5mm TRS audio jacks have three contacts, one each for the Right and Left stereo channels and one for ground. A channel is either present or absent. Any bass issues you are experiencing are not due to the jack; it simply is not wired that way.
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Yes, the headphone jack is extremely tight on the NC. I feel like I am going to break something every time I am plugging in the headphones. I am sure that they inserted completely. However, out of 5 "plug in and out" cycles, only 1 will yield the full spectrum of the frequencies for me. Specifically, there is no bass, all mids and highs. I have to plug and unplug few times to get sound with bass+the rest. I am not complaining that the bass is weak, there is simply no bass at all until you get a right "fit". I tried 5 different headphones (ranging from cheap iPod headphones to UE TripleFi 10) and different sources (e.g., Pandora, music player, etc), and the result was always the same.
Anybody else with this problem (i.e., complete lack of bass until you find the right "fit")?
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"However, out of 5 "plug in and out" cycles, only 1 will yield the full spectrum of the frequencies for me. "
I am certainly experiencing this issue as well. I've found a way to reproduce it. If you push the plug in fast enough all the way, you can get the plug to produce full sound, but if you push it half way in and wait for NC to change the sound from speakers to headphones you'll be missing some spectrum, after you're hearing broken sound coming out of your headphones, even if you completely push in the rest of the jack, the final results will be missing some spectrum. So the only way to get complete sound is to push the plug in before the NC switches to the headphone output.
Wonder what a pair of the little powered external speakers would sound like?