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Handcent and Messaging

Hey guys,
I just recently got my HTC hero and I have a question about the messaging app. First of all, I am currently using Handcent mainly because if you use the stock app, texts always show up on the lock screen even if you are using the pattern lock. That is annoying, and I don't understand what the point of the pattern lock is if you can just see my texts without having to even unlock my phone...anyway, so I am using handcent and it's fine. I've made sure to remove notifications on the stock app so that I don't get double notifications, but my question is: is there a way to delete the stock app? I mean is the phone going to slow down since it is getting texts from 2 apps, does that make sense? Even though the notifications are disabled for the stock app, the texts still go there and they are also going to handcent...So basically i would like to know if:
1. i can delete the stock app (i have rooted my phone so...)
2. does it matter that the phone is pulling texts to two different apps
3. is there a way to make my texts not go to my lock screen, if so i would just not use handcent
Finally, on handcent, i will oftentimes get a text twice from people. does anyone have this problem?
Ok tahnks!

1. Don't delete the stock messaging app.
2. From what I've read on these forums, Handcent basically gets texts from the stock messaging app to get texts. Your phone isn't really doing twice the amount of work.
3. Hmm, I use handcent, and I disabled notifications on the stock app, and I don't see any texts from the stock app on my lock screen.
I also get texts twice once in a while. I think it has something to do with scrolling down the conversation window while the text is being received... not sure, but that's what I noticed.

sxelsharif said:
Hey guys,
I just recently got my HTC hero and I have a question about the messaging app. First of all, I am currently using Handcent mainly because if you use the stock app, texts always show up on the lock screen even if you are using the pattern lock. That is annoying, and I don't understand what the point of the pattern lock is if you can just see my texts without having to even unlock my phone...anyway, so I am using handcent and it's fine. I've made sure to remove notifications on the stock app so that I don't get double notifications, but my question is: is there a way to delete the stock app? I mean is the phone going to slow down since it is getting texts from 2 apps, does that make sense? Even though the notifications are disabled for the stock app, the texts still go there and they are also going to handcent...So basically i would like to know if:
1. i can delete the stock app (i have rooted my phone so...)
2. does it matter that the phone is pulling texts to two different apps
3. is there a way to make my texts not go to my lock screen, if so i would just not use handcent
Finally, on handcent, i will oftentimes get a text twice from people. does anyone have this problem?
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Look at handcent as a theme for ur stock text app.
Deleting stock would make text not work.
No way to turn that off in stock text for the lockscreen
Dbl text is the carrier at times. It happens. No way to stop it.

My experience is different, I deleted the stock app (mms.apk) and my text work just fine. As long you as you remembered to turn on auto retrieve in your handcent's setting under "Receive message settings". It has been working for me without any issue.

Handcent and Google Voice don't play well with one another. Handcent won't display my Google Voice number despite what the Google Voice settings say. It also behaves... oddly for me. I really wish it would work the way I want it to, though. Hot damn, is it pretty. I love the interface and the customization options. I just hate the fact that it won't play nice with Google Voice. So... ugly texting through my preferred number, it is!

Have you tried chomp sms? Similar look, not as customizable, but may play better with gv
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danaff37 said:
Have you tried chomp sms? Similar look, not as customizable, but may play better with gv
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I have tried Chomp. But, as far as I can tell, when not sending from the Google Voice application, it tells people that it came from my cell number, not my Google Voice number. The whole point of Google Voice, at least for me, is to have one number forever, not switch between them.

[Q] Help with handcent

I would like to almost completely replace the stock messages app. My dilema is that I really enjoy the stock notifications for the stock messages app, but how handcent is set up better than the stock app. I have the notifications turned off in handcent and the notifications on for the stock app. But this makes it when I read the message with hand cent it doesn't mark the message as read in the stock app thus the notification stays up in the status bar until I clear it manually, which is becoming annoying. So the only way I can think of to fix this since I could not find a setting to mark them as read, would be to take all of handcent files except the notification settings and use them to replace the s app files. Or if someone could tell me how to theme/skin the standard messaging app that would work as well. A third option would be to find a way to make handcent mark the text as read in the stock app. Hopefully someone can help me figure how to do this out provide with an easier way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.

TheFurriousD said:
I would like to almost completely replace the stock messages app. My dilema is that I really enjoy the stock notifications for the stock messages app, but how handcent is set up better than the stock app. I have the notifications turned off in handcent and the notifications on for the stock app. But this makes it when I read the message with hand cent it doesn't mark the message as read in the stock app thus the notification stays up in the status bar until I clear it manually, which is becoming annoying. So the only way I can think of to fix this since I could not find a setting to mark them as read, would be to take all of handcent files except the notification settings and use them to replace the s app files. Or if someone could tell me how to theme/skin the standard messaging app that would work as well. A third option would be to find a way to make handcent mark the text as read in the stock app. Hopefully someone can help me figure how to do this out provide with an easier way. Any help would be greatly appreciated.
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What exactly do u mean by notifications? Do you mean the icons? if that's what you mean you can change the notification icons in handcent.
Here's how:
1. In the main handcent screen hit menu and go to settings
2. Go to notification settings
3. click on notification settings again
4. Go to notification icon
5. Choose your icon and enjoy!
I believe some of the icons in there look the same as the stock icon. And to keep from getting two notifications disable the notifications in the stock app. Not sure if this is exactly what you were asking about but hope it helps.

I appreciate the response, but what I'm really going for is the wile puzzle piece unlock thing. I have it set up now to where it works so I get the puzzle piece and then launch into handcent but since I have to have the notifications through the stock app to get the puzzle piece to work the status bar icons stay there until I clear them manually because handcent doesn't mark the text messages as read in the native app.

I see. I use the pattern unlock on my phone so i wouldn't know how to change that. I'm sure a dev could probably figure that out for you. Sorry i couldn't be more helpful. Good luck.
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^Agree with OP. Would love the functionality of Handcent but retain the puzzle piece notification, since it's a nice touch and the visual eye candy enhances the overall experience.

The only thing I use Handcent for is the popup notification window when I get a new text so I send a quick reply and put the phone back down. For everything else I just use the stock messaging app.
I tried a few other popup notifications for texts but, like has already been said, Handcent is the best so far.

miztaken1312 said:
The only thing I use Handcent for is the popup notification window when I get a new text so I send a quick reply and put the phone back down. For everything else I just use the stock messaging app.
I tried a few other popup notifications for texts but, like has already been said, Handcent is the best so far.
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Yeah I pretty much want to the exact opposite of that. I like the interface of handcent, but I actually don't like the popups or notifications that handcent uses.
I also just put in a feature request on the handcent forum. Asked them to add and option to automatically mark the text as read in standard app or to have the option to use the puzzle piece as the notification in handcent. So we'll see how that goes

I might have to take back what I said about hancent. Seems as if it managed to delete all of my 3k+ text messages. Not very happy about that.
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miztaken1312 said:
I might have to take back what I said about hancent. Seems as if it managed to delete all of my 3k+ text messages. Not very happy about that.
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havent seen that happen
i use SMSBackup+ from the market to backup all my SMS to my gmail
makes things WORLDS easier for all my constant rom flashing

I know it was Handcent cause I looked at the logs and it was the last app to access my texts. I had a clockwork backup from a few days earlier. I got some of my stuff back, but still lost some important ones. I looked at smsbackup but I was a little weary of it having access to my Google account and about how it worked.
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I would love to have this as well. This is exactly what I have been looking for. If you do end up finding this or figuring out how to make it work, could you let me know or lead me in the right direction? Thanks.

I've learned a lot since I posted this. And to my understanding the puzzle piece thing is part of the touchwiz ui. So it only will work with the Samsung messaging app. The only way to achieve this effect would be to have some one create an entire rom based on this request by using handcent as the default and modifying the touchwiz lock screen to use handcent instead of the Samsung messaging app. Which sucks because this seems like it would be quite tedious but that's my understanding now of the problem but hopefully I'm wrong lol. I kinda gave up on this idea but still if anyone figures out a simple fix to this I would love to know.
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I also have a question regarding the puzzle piece screen when receiving an sms... Is there any way for the puzzle piece screen to still show up when using Widget Locker? I don't see an option for something like that, but there are options to block popups.

Oh man would I love this feature!! I think I'm going to have to go back to the stock app because I love the puzzle piece unlock so much. Its just too tedious to unlock the screen and then click on the messaging app (I know that sounds awful hahah) especially if you text ALOT.

Sms popups

I've done some research and found out that HTC sense offers this. I want to have a pop-up of my text with a quick reply option on my lockscreen. Is there an apparently that can do it for the captivate? I've tries SMS pop-up and go SMS. Neither works and I hate to continuously install apps. Any help is appreciated, thanks!

Handscent does this very well but it tends to work best as a replacement for the default messaging app.
Sent from my Captivate running Cognition 2.4

ntdb said:
Handscent does this very well but it tends to work best as a replacement for the default messaging app.
Sent from my Captivate running Cognition 2.4
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And so does chomp. I like both of them equally.

SMS Popup works great. what exactly makes you think it doesnt work?

uhh, i havent tried handscent but
go sms and sms popup dont show me a preview on the lock screen :S only during the home screen

supaphreek said:
uhh, i havent tried handscent but
go sms and sms popup dont show me a preview on the lock screen :S only during the home screen
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yeah. SMS Popup will show you a preview
open it
go to additional settings
screen on for popup
works for me every time

got handcent to work Thanks for your help people

Ok, so.. I've tried all of those, they all suck. I just found this new one called GO MMS or GO SMS or something. It's awesome, customization options, awesome popup ui, quick, try it out.

Wake on SMS Receipt

This question is quick, and it's strange that I haven't found an answer to it in my searches, but anyways:
How can I make my screen turn on, instead of just buttons (In Assonance ROM 5.2) when I receive a text message?
Regards
Smith

I don't use stock messaging stoop but it seems like I have read about people using an app called sms popup to activate screen when a text comes in....assuming of course you just want it to come on for a brief time.

3rd party messaging apps like handcent have this built in.
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[Q]How to disable phone wake-up on text messages

Anyone knows how to disable the phone from waking up when I receive a txt msg.
On HTC you had a option for it in the txt menu.
But on the LG you don't (Or I havn't found it).
So anyone knows how to disable it?

Well mine doesnt wake up at all when I get texts or emails. Cant remember where I selected that setting tho

MeX_DK said:
Well mine doesnt wake up at all when I get texts or emails. Cant remember where I selected that setting tho
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Mine only does that with texts, not with mail.
Please search how you did it

I think the reason why it doesn't wake up with email is because im not using the stock email client . I am using K9

MeX_DK said:
I think the reason why it doesn't wake up with email is because im not using the stock email client . I am using K9
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You use stock text client?? Cause the stock text clients wakesup the phone.

Yea I am using the stock one, and it doesnt wake up my phone.

Still the phone keeps waking up on txt msg.

Just try out GO SMS Pro, it's free and in my opinion much better than the standard one! Lot's of options there, including an option to not wake up

Escobarretje said:
Just try out GO SMS Pro, it's free and in my opinion much better than the standard one! Lot's of options there, including an option to not wake up
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I want to keep it stock. So not a option.

Do you have locking enabled, or what kind of screenlock you have.
If you have no lock, it will wake-up your phone.
If you use pattern lock it doesn't wake-up the phone.
I use go sms pro. Try it, you can uninstall it.

-Jarmo- said:
Do you have locking enabled, or what kind of screenlock you have.
If you have no lock, it will wake-up your phone.
If you use pattern lock it doesn't wake-up the phone.
I use go sms pro. Try it, you can uninstall it.
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Got stock lock screen.
Thank that's the issue.