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Hi guys,
For those unfortunate owners of HTC HD7? Any updates on the camera and sound issues.
The camera does not focus properly on distant objects not very far though.
The sound on the speakers is weak during calls. Need a booster app.
Thanks,
Get the Sound Enhancer app in the HTC Hub. I haven't used it yet but it gets good reviews.
jimbonics said:
Get the Sound Enhancer app in the HTC Hub. I haven't used it yet but it gets good reviews.
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Do you even own a HTC HD7. the sound enhancer app is just to control equalizer settings.
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For those unfortunate owners of HTC HD7
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I'd highly recommend re-thinking your thread starting structure. You're not going to get many answers if you begin like this.
I personally believe (and you'll probably find 99% of other users who frequent the HD7 section of these forums feel the same) that there isn't a better device on the market today. So to call us "unfortunate owners" is kind of insulting.
But i'll tell you what i've told others on similar threads, i personally haven't noticed any problems with the camera and i haven't really noticed the volume not being loud enough. Perhaps it's due to personal use, or maybe you've got a dodgy device, i dunno.
nitroxn said:
Do you even own a HTC HD7. the sound enhancer app is just to control equalizer settings.
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Yes, I do own an HD7, and no, it's not really for just EQ settings. In fact, unless I'm mistaken, you only get EQ options when you use headphones.
It allows you to Choose Dolby or SRS for both Audio and Video. Equalizer specifically says for headphones or external speakers only. If you want to lump Dolby and SRS into that definition, fine.
All I can say, is that it makes quite a difference when playing youtube or netflix. Quite noticable.
( I use SRS )
you guys know if the htc 7 surround has a better camera? i heard the camera on this was horrid. may be getting the hd7 soon
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I'd highly recommend re-thinking your thread starting structure. You're not going to get many answers if you begin like this.
I personally believe (and you'll probably find 99% of other users who frequent the HD7 section of these forums feel the same) that there isn't a better device on the market today. So to call us "unfortunate owners" is kind of insulting.
But i'll tell you what i've told others on similar threads, i personally haven't noticed any problems with the camera and i haven't really noticed the volume not being loud enough. Perhaps it's due to personal use, or maybe you've got a dodgy device, i dunno.
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Sorry there if i was too direct... but i am too damn frustrated with the phone... should have gone with an androd or even nokia.
nitroxn said:
Sorry there if i was too direct... but i am too damn frustrated with the phone... should have gone with an androd or even nokia.
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if you use your phone alot for camera nokia is the way to go. they have the best cameras. also, they are upgrading to meego, and stopping on crappy symbian so id wait till then. thats what i wanna do, love their phones but symbian sucks.
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if you use your phone alot for camera nokia is the way to go. they have the best cameras. also, they are upgrading to meego, and stopping on crappy symbian so id wait till then. thats what i wanna do, love their phones but symbian sucks.
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Same here. What i would like to see is Windows Phone 7 OS on nokia devices. that would be a real winner and viable threat to Apple and Google.
But that is never going to happen i guess.
nitroxn said:
Same here. What i would like to see is Windows Phone 7 OS on nokia devices. that would be a real winner and viable threat to Apple and Google.
But that is never going to happen i guess.
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that would be awesome. im really sad at htcs quality. they make a "HD" phone and you cant even see angles of it lol. nokia would blast all these phones away, im waiting till acer releases their wp7, or asus. for now i will go with the HD7 even though the screen is poo compared to the focus
Audio said:
I'd highly recommend re-thinking your thread starting structure. You're not going to get many answers if you begin like this.
I personally believe (and you'll probably find 99% of other users who frequent the HD7 section of these forums feel the same) that there isn't a better device on the market today. So to call us "unfortunate owners" is kind of insulting.
But i'll tell you what i've told others on similar threads, i personally haven't noticed any problems with the camera and i haven't really noticed the volume not being loud enough. Perhaps it's due to personal use, or maybe you've got a dodgy device, i dunno.
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To be honest it isn't like he isn't somewhat justified. I mean how can you mess up the speaker and camera on a phone that is nearly identical to its predacesor. My old school touch pro 2 speaker must be at least 3 times louder than this and the camera is just a joke. I put it side by side with an hd2 and it was like night and day.
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To be honest it isn't like he isn't somewhat justified. I mean how can you mess up the speaker and camera on a phone that is nearly identical to its predacesor. My old school touch pro 2 speaker must be at least 3 times louder than this and the camera is just a joke. I put it side by side with an hd2 and it was like night and day.
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its mostly to do with the software. yeah i had the htc pure and the speaker was awesome in it. the camera is awesome on my mytouch 4g, the software is also awesome on sense. WP7 has sh*t camera software. thats all our cameras our pretty much, crappy cameras, and software to make them look good. Nokia is the only company that has made cell phone camera that are actually good without the software. and the touch pro two had two speakers in the back, or thats what i remember lol. it was one of the big features of it, just like the HTC surround. the HD7 has the big screen, thats the feature. HTC wont put all their quality into one phone cause then nobody would but the rest. you want good speaker - surround, you want big screen - HD7, you want awesome keyboard - HTC 7 pro, etc. they wont make a phone with a nice keyboard, perfect screen size, amoled screen, good speaker all into one. the closest they got is the incredible.
Hi guys,
For those unfortunate owners of HTC HD7? Any updates on the camera and sound issues.
The camera does not focus properly on distant objects not very far though.
The sound on the speakers is weak during calls. Need a booster app.
Thanks,
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I know how you feel. I hate the camera and speakers. Honestly, if this phone wasn't free and didn't look so damn impressive I would have sold it.
and if i didn't hate my touchpro 2 so much. i was ready to take anything
laynee04 said:
I know how you feel. I hate the camera and speakers. Honestly, if this phone wasn't free and didn't look so damn impressive I would have sold it.
and if i didn't hate my touchpro 2 so much. i was ready to take anything
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I'm probably gonna be selling it for the touch pro 3 when that arrives.
stratax said:
that would be awesome. im really sad at htcs quality. they make a "HD" phone and you cant even see angles of it lol. nokia would blast all these phones away, im waiting till acer releases their wp7, or asus. for now i will go with the HD7 even though the screen is poo compared to the focus
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Huh? The viewing angles are perfectly normal. Quit being biased.
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its mostly to do with the software. yeah i had the htc pure and the speaker was awesome in it. the camera is awesome on my mytouch 4g, the software is also awesome on sense. WP7 has sh*t camera software. thats all our cameras our pretty much, crappy cameras, and software to make them look good. Nokia is the only company that has made cell phone camera that are actually good without the software. and the touch pro two had two speakers in the back, or thats what i remember lol. it was one of the big features of it, just like the HTC surround. the HD7 has the big screen, thats the feature. HTC wont put all their quality into one phone cause then nobody would but the rest. you want good speaker - surround, you want big screen - HD7, you want awesome keyboard - HTC 7 pro, etc. they wont make a phone with a nice keyboard, perfect screen size, amoled screen, good speaker all into one. the closest they got is the incredible.
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WP7 camera software is really good, idk what you're thinking
we've known the old desire(dhd inc)'s speaker is almost a crap.hope htc do well this time.
it is the only point that may break my deal!
Interested to know this too. Although some have said it seems ok I would like to hear from anyone who can directly compare it to the DHD or the original Desire.
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Interested to know this too. Although some have said it seems ok I would like to hear from anyone who can directly compare it to the DHD or the original Desire.
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yes. but i don't think "ok" is enough,as that can mean they don't care about the loudspeaker/sound quality. hope they compare to samsung or nokia devices.
Had a play today - speaker is pathetic. Just like the Desire so HTC have learned nothing here!
It seems you can compare the speaker on the IncredibleS with the Desire, Z & HD. That's really a shame.
Currently I'm still on the Touch Pro2 mainly because the speaker quality is actually pretty good. Was thinking on buying the DesireZ a while ago but decided to skip it due to the bad speaker. Now the IncredibleS suffers the same problem.
Wonder if my next device will be an HTC. But look at the alternative. Devices from Samsung and LG suffer from LED notifications. What's wrong with these manufacturers?
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Not at all .....i have both phones and the incredible s is noticeably different to desire hd....i mean its no beats by dre.....but there is a noticeabe improvement.....when holding both phones hand in hand and playing same song.....you can barely hear the really tinny sound of dhd over the sound of incredible s.......dont get nme wrong there is till a lot of room for improvement by htc
I dont have a DHD but had the original desire and the incredible s is definitely better sounding from the speaker phone. Its not great & I wouldn't listen to music without decent headphones but it is improved none the less. I only use it for sat nav & its perfectly fine for that.
Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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It is a tad bit louder that DHD but i think the noticeable improvement is depth of music...for instance the DHD will just sort of play snares and lound sharp sounds where as the incredible s has a wider range of sounds that you can hear
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It is a tad bit louder that DHD but i think the noticeable improvement is depth of music...for instance the DHD will just sort of play snares and lound sharp sounds where as the incredible s has a wider range of sounds that you can hear
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That's kind of what I was hoping for but is not something I was able to hear from the time I spend with the IS. Guess it needs more thorough testing to appreciate the differences.
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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Sat-Nav is one of the main features of the phone for me, I used it on the Hero all the time but the screen was tiny. I use Co-Pilot, and the instructions are nice and clear for me, and the bigger screen makes a huge difference.
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Well this is encouraging. My time with the Incredible S was very brief and the sounds demo'd to me were those that come on the card. When I asked for a demo of the speakerphone the assistant was unable to make a call so I wasn't able to test this.
Interesting, if it really is better than the DHD it may just be worth a shot for me ... Sat nav instructions were barely understandable from the Desire when I had it due to the poor quality - one of the reasons I ditched the original Desire and also the DHD.
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Hmm as for sat nav i doubt either phone will really be on par for such a task on the audio front but as stated Incredible S has shown some improvement in music quality....but to be able to play turn by turn direction over car noise and traffic.....i doubt it will.
Also...
Visually both phones are good......as for use as a sat nav....the DHD has a larger screen for maps etc but the Incredible S has a better anti glare screen and much more vivid colours.....
Played with the HTC Incredible S. Loudspeaker is better than on the DesireHD. But my HTC TouchPro2 is still louder and the has more "body".
Currently also looking at the Optimus 2X by LG. This has a better sound chip. But haven't tested this in real life just yet.
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Had a play today - speaker is pathetic. Just like the Desire so HTC have learned nothing here!
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It looks like recent HTC products have speaker problem (at least it happens on my nexus one and MT4), but my TP2 doesn't.
The speaker on the I-S is without doubt 1000 times better than the garbage HTC put on the DHD.
The DHD speakerwas rubbish for music and I could never hear youtube videos without cupping my hand over the back of the phone but still to no avail.
Having got an I-S the first thing I did was compare the two side by side, and I cant even hear the DHD playing due to the loudness, clarity and depth of the I-S when both on SRS ...such an improvement, well done HTC.
For such a good phone, HTC really did betray the customer with what they put in the DHD...yes, its great with earphones, but who always wants to put earphones in..do they think nobody ever wants to show other ppl things they are watching.
Anyway, that isnt the only area of supremacy IMHO..the screen is much better, I dont know if its cos its smaller, but its clearer, not washed out, and has colour depth comparative to SAMOLED...you dont realise how bad the DHD screen is until they are side by side..you feel as if you have been robbed from day 1.
The viewing angles are amazing on the I-S cos of these issues too, clearly viewable at all acute angles.
The moulded handset is very comfortable, lighter which is betteras regardless of what ppl say, why would anyone want a heavier handset????
The lip around the screen is much better than the DHD too, almost non existent, certainly not noticeable...the on off button is more distinct too.
I dint mean to bash the DHD, Im just annoyed as I bought one when it first came out and it was very expensive and apart from the solid build quality, HTC really did rob the purchaser at every level...so my contentness with the I-S is a consolation
I think the speaker is pretty good as well!
But then again, I'm coming from the Xperia X10 so quite everything is better on this phone! xD
Such an awesome toy
hell ye, the speaker is banging
Having used the HTC Desire HD and Desire Z, and now having switched to Incredible S I can say both the earpiece and the speaker phone are way better on the Incredible S.
I also used the TP2....the earpiece on the I-S is as good as the TP2. The speaker phone is not as good...as I have not seen any phone with a speaker phone as good as the TP2 till date (that was awesome).
Having said that, the speaker phone is quite decent on a stand alone basis and any day better than the D-HD which was SH*T!!!
Speaker is crap
Nice review by Engadget
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Speaker is crap
Nice review by Engadget
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that says it all
Hi guys.. looking at buying a 2x but need to know if the loud speaker is any good. Best phones I know of are iphone and Motorola for best clarity loudness and bass.
Thanks
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From what ive read the speakers on this phone are brilliant..... probably because of the dual speaker arrangement similar to the iPhone!
I have an atrix but it suffers from data disconnection. I was thinking the 2x would be ok.
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Moonie17 said:
From what ive read the speakers on this phone are brilliant..... probably because of the dual speaker arrangement similar to the iPhone!
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The Optimus 2X has only one speaker connected to both the right and left output of the Wolfson audio codec. The second cavity hosts the microphone. The service manual for the SU 660 shows this, so I think it will be similar for the P990
So what does it sound like?
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Like a phone .
Not bad IMO, better than HTC Desire and Desire Z which was my last two android phones, more deeper sound, and can be used as speakerphone, which I could not so much with my earlier HTC phones.
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like a phone :d.
Not bad imo, better than htc desire and desire z which was my last two android phones, more deeper sound, and can be used as speakerphone, which i could not so much with my earlier htc phones.
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therefore, the dual it 's more powerful?
OTOGY2002 said:
therefore, the dual it 's more powerful?
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there is still only one speaker not two
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Hi guys.. looking at buying a 2x but need to know if the loud speaker is any good.
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Hi there; note that the reviewer states that this is a 2x pre-production model (though IMO, unlike software, hardware dose not usually change in this phase...) & lists the 2x as having "below average" quality. See the chart below for details.
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Hi there; note that the reviewer states that this is a 2x pre-production model (though IMO, unlike software, hardware dose not usually change in this phase...) & lists the 2x as having "below average" quality. See the chart below for details.
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Well, imo it has well above average quality.
Whether it's the reviewer or me who has trouble hearing, or if the actual pre-production model had a flaw, i can't say for sure.
It's in a different league than the Desire, thats for sure, but i guess most phones are.
IMO the sound is good on my P990
Better than HTC Desire, HD, and so on.
About the same as Samsung Galaxy S
It looks like a dual speaker, and I noticed that one of them delievers treble, and the other bass/middle tone (if it is called that? - directly translated from danish)
According to the Swedroid review "The external speaker can not quite match the fullness and volume that we experience that the Xperia X10 mini performance, but the exception to this model belongs to Optimus 2X the best we've heard one of the Android phones we have tested. We raise the volume to 100% is the sound quality is still good and we find neither of noise due to the chassis vibration due to the speaker distorts the sound, but it is both clear even at maximum volume."
Source (English translation):
http://translate.google.co.uk/trans...=3Ml&rls=org.mozilla:en-GB:official&prmd=ivns
Source Swedish speakers:http://www.swedroid.se/test-av-lg-optimus-2x/
since I posted this like a gazillion times by now, let me reinforce my statement with the actual exerpt from the SU660 Service Manual
I attached a part of the schematics concerning the audio codec from the Service Manual (page 67 if you happen to have it yourself)
The important part is concerned with the outputs
SPKOUTRN
SPKOUTRP
which are the + and - lines for the right channel and
SPKOUTLN
SPKOUTLP
which are the respective lines for the left channel.
As you can see both outputs are bridged to one physical speaker output (SPK_N and SPK_P) so there is only ONE physical speaker, which receives both the left and right channel signals.
Hope this clarifies this once and for all.
Can more people comment on the speaker loudness and quality? Currently I am a Nexus one and I can't even hear the speaker ring from another room. Is it much of an improvement?
How does it compare to other phones like Nokias?
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Well, imo it has well above average quality.
Whether it's the reviewer or me who has trouble hearing, or if the actual pre-production model had a flaw, i can't say for sure.
It's in a different league than the Desire, thats for sure, but i guess most phones are.
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Yes I agree
The speaker is a lot louder then desire z but there is hardly any base. But for pure sound its not.bad at all. You defiantly could play out loud in noisy environment. Its a mono speaker similar to Nokia n8 speaker
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can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p7.php
thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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Different SoC's have different DAC's (Digital-to-Analog-Converters [Audio Chips]). Exynos, for example, has the awesome Wolfson DAC, which you can use the Voodoo Audio mod with. The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has a different, but still very good one. So yeah, it makes sense that this Intel one [probably] has a different DAC considering you're talking about an entire system on a chip. The camera, however is independent and has nothing to do with the SoC. So if Motorola decided to use a lesser quality camera on the i than the M, that was an independent decision.
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can it be so? according to
http://www.gsmarena.com/motorola_razr_i_xt890-review-828p6.php
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thought the audio chip and camera nternals would be the same
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Personal experience is that the i has a better camera than the M, but that both are mediocre. Kind of hilarious that the i had a dedicated camera button for a shoddy camera.
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Different SoC's have different DAC's (Digital-to-Analog-Converters [Audio Chips]). Exynos, for example, has the awesome Wolfson DAC, which you can use the Voodoo Audio mod with. The Qualcomm Snapdragon S4 has a different, but still very good one. So yeah, it makes sense that this Intel one [probably] has a different DAC considering you're talking about an entire system on a chip. The camera, however is independent and has nothing to do with the SoC. So if Motorola decided to use a lesser quality camera on the i than the M, that was an independent decision.
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You're talking about Exynos 4412.
Don't confuse it with 4210 which has the worst audio chips ever made in mankind. (Yamaha)
Livebyte said:
You're talking about Exynos 4412.
Don't confuse it with 4210 which has the worst audio chips ever made in mankind. (Yamaha)
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I'm talking about the current-gen model. I've had the Epic 4G Touch when I was on Sprint (it had the Exynos 4210) and yes it was really bad (flat-sounding). I was trying to illustrate a point though.
maybe not quite as techincal as the gsmarena review but certainly not a 'poor' camera here
http://www.expertreviews.co.uk/smartphones/1294792/motorola-razr-i
Can anyone that owns the Razr i please comment on the audio quality? I'm planning on buying this phone, but I listen to music on my phone for hours every day and am buying a new phone, because the audio connector on my Desire is bust. I'm only interested in the sound quality through headphones.
i've just compared it to the gnex. not great i'm afraid. quite a bit of 'hiss'. a few seconds after play comes to a stop, you'll hear a nasty 'clicking off' sound. not quite sure what it is but it is not there on the gnex. i really wanted to love this phone but audio quality is a let down. for that reason alone, i'll be sticking with my gnex and returning the i tomorrow
You've got to be kidding me, how hard can it be to get this right.
I disagree. I am not an audiophile but I find the sound pretty much as good as any other device I have had. There is hiss when not listening to anything but it seems to go away when I am listening to something.
Anyway, I really think its ok.
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There is hiss when not listening to anything but it seems to go away when I am listening to something
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that is true, you'll only notice it on quiet areas of songs. but those same areas have no hiss at all on the gnex. i'm not trying to big up the gnex here but quality of audio output via headphones is pretty important to me and the hiss i find is unacceptable
Honestly I haven't noticed a hiss when listening to things. I mainly listen to podcasts which have lots of quiet sections and little music. I will turn my ears to the potential hiss next time my headphones are plugged in.
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Just got my new XT890. Excellent phone. Have played some MP3s and haven't noticed any problem till now. This phone has much better sound quality than my previous Huawei. Also the results of sound measurement in gsmarena review are similar to those of HTC One X review:
I think the methods of sound quality measurements aren't very accurate and strongly depends on the environment, measuring equipment and event on the specific phone unit (I think such type of benchmarks should be repeated on several units to control convergence of results).
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Just got my new XT890. Excellent phone. Have played some MP3s and haven't noticed any problem till now. This phone has much better sound quality than my previous Huawei. Also the results of sound measurement in gsmarena review are similar to those of HTC One X review:
I think the methods of sound quality measurements aren't very accurate and strongly depends on the environment, measuring equipment and event on the specific phone unit (I think such type of benchmarks should be repeated on several units to control convergence of results).
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I'm not scientific with my sound reviews but from my personal experience my XT912 RAZR sounded "meh" quality.
My HTC One S sounded great, probably because of the whole Beats thing.
My RAZR i is on par with my HTC One S for sound quality.
This is all done from me driving around in my '97 Olds with a Cassette to MP3 adapter so take it with a grain of salt... but I am happy with the quality
Nice name by the way
Could it be, that only some handsets are affected? Because a few people complain about the quality, and a few say it's completely fine. And only one reviewer mentioned the problem. I had the obnoxious clicking sound when a track stopped on the Desire aswell, and I would really love, if the Razr i wouldn't have that problem. Could a beter set of headphones help? Me buying this phone is riding on this, because I really love it so far, a compact all-rounder, that has a lovely design, and is something special.
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i've just compared it to the gnex. not great i'm afraid. quite a bit of 'hiss'. a few seconds after play comes to a stop, you'll hear a nasty 'clicking off' sound. not quite sure what it is but it is not there on the gnex. i really wanted to love this phone but audio quality is a let down. for that reason alone, i'll be sticking with my gnex and returning the i tomorrow
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update: the tables have turned! i had a 2nd razr i delivered over the weekend. this unit has no noticeable 'hiss' as described above. not sure if the 1st unit was defective or something moto have amended in newer batches? either way i'm more than happy with the audio quality now on the replacement razr i and can fully recommend it to others. i'll be keeping the razr and returning the gnex yes the gnex is still marginally ahead audio quality wise. but the trade off with having a device that can store my entire music collection on removeable sd vs slightly lesser audio performance is well worth it imo.
both units were from reputable online retailers.
Oh dreaded Moto! Defy speaker problem repeats itself? Can you check serial numbers (and other info) on the stickers on both boxes? Perhaps they've different manufacturing dates.
it is not the loudspeaker. i'm talking about listening with headphones. i'll look at the boxes later at post back
Yeah, Defy problem wasn't exactly this one, but it was massive and annoying and moto had to admit the issue later.
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it is not the loudspeaker. i'm talking about listening with headphones. i'll look at the boxes later at post back
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& what serial number it has?
http://online.wsj.com/article_email...20692100040648-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwODExNDgyWj.html
maybe htc is a sinking ship.... might not be my next fone....sadly
ticklemepinks said:
http://online.wsj.com/article_email...20692100040648-lMyQjAxMTAzMDEwODExNDgyWj.html
maybe htc is a sinking ship.... might not be my next fone....sadly
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Beats dropping HTC isn't going to make me like HTC any less. Beats are such a mid-level, high-priced fashion statements that gives me an instant visual indicator of people who care more about how "cool" they look vs. how much they care about the quality of the sound going into their ears.
In fact, I think HTC should dump them preemptively and team up with a company that knows what audio quality is. Bring in Grado or Sennheiser!
NO Beats is no deal breaker for me. I actually keep it turned off , sounds better off when using it with my trucks BT.
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felacio said:
Beats dropping HTC isn't going to make me like HTC any less. Beats are such a mid-level, high-priced fashion statements that gives me an instant visual indicator of people who care more about how "cool" they look vs. how much they care about the quality of the sound going into their ears.
In fact, I think HTC should dump them preemptively and team up with a company that knows what audio quality is. Bring in Grado or Sennheiser!
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Next time..... let me post first because I am 30 minutes north of you (Oregon City). Now you have the compass all screwed up
Yea I believe it's just a hype and should of mrt me post first I live in Portland haha lol
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felacio said:
Beats dropping HTC isn't going to make me like HTC any less. Beats are such a mid-level, high-priced fashion statements that gives me an instant visual indicator of people who care more about how "cool" they look vs. how much they care about the quality of the sound going into their ears.
In fact, I think HTC should dump them preemptively and team up with a company that knows what audio quality is. Bring in Grado or Sennheiser!
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Mid-level? You're giving beats way too much credit. I've seen literally thousands of them disassembled, and they're absolutely no better than those $10 phillips headphones with the little foam covers. Not to mention how unbelievably cheap the materials are.
tatonka_hero said:
Mid-level? You're giving beats way too much credit. I've seen literally thousands of them disassembled, and they're absolutely no better than those $10 phillips headphones with the little foam covers. Not to mention how unbelievably cheap the materials are.
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not to mention that all the samples at the local always have busted speakers after no time at all
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mhsbrian said:
not to mention that all the samples at the local always have busted speakers after no time at all
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That's a feature, not a bug!
If you want to see something really bad, look at the Beats Pill. Compare it to a Bose Soundlink Mini (same price), and see if you can tell if the Pill is broken or not.
We had one to prototype for our customization service here at work, and we had to order a second one because we thought we broke the first.
but i'm talkin about for mass marketing, yeah we know that beats is kinda gimmicky but ppl who buy things lik the iphone don't realize it, business wise, it makes then look bad
I've gone throw 3 pairs of executives
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I hate that my phone says "beats audio" on the back and the beats earbuds that came with my phone are horrible. I think dropping beats would be a good move for HTC; HTC hardware is amazing.
SikYou said:
I hate that my phone says "beats audio" on the back and the beats earbuds that came with my phone are horrible. I think dropping beats would be a good move for HTC; HTC hardware is amazing.
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The earbuds that came with the HTC one aren't beats earbuds, just beats colored. The ones that came with the HTC one sound arguably better than beats ones though...
Lonewuhf said:
The earbuds that came with the HTC one aren't beats earbuds, just beats colored. The ones that came with the HTC one sound arguably better than beats ones though...
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I don't care as long as HTC stays in business! HTC Rocks!
felacio said:
In fact, I think HTC should dump them preemptively and team up with a company that knows what audio quality is. Bring in Grado or Sennheiser!
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Quoted for effect. My Grados with a small portable amp are way better than any beats, period. If you disagree, then your ears are broken.
Yeah this is a positive if anything. Beats is marketing garbage, and they are starting to get a lot of crap for it. I'm seconding a sennheiser partnership.
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Umm what does this have to do with purchasing a HTC phone op?
HTC owns 25% of beats the company. At one point HTC owned a majority stake of beats. If I was HTC I would s-can beats. It is a trendy fad that will soon pass. Their cans are by far the worst for audio leakage. My $30 senns have much better sound quality and people near may are not annoyed by my tunes. Beats falls right in line with Bose. Excellent marketing, mediocre product. High profits from the uninformed.
I also agree with the above. I wish my device didn't have the beats logo on it.
atroph said:
Umm what does this have to do with purchasing a HTC phone op?
HTC owns 25% of beats the company. At one point HTC owned a majority stake of beats. If I was HTC I would s-can beats. It is a trendy fad that will soon pass. Their cans are by far the worst for audio leakage. My $30 senns have much better sound quality and people near may are not annoyed by my tunes. Beats falls right in line with Bose. Excellent marketing, mediocre product. High profits from the uninformed.
I also agree with the above. I wish my device didn't have the beats logo on it.
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It's pretty easy to remove the Beats branding on the back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267434&highlight=remove+beats
Bose's products have actually come quite a ways since their early "no highs, no lows, must be Bose" days. The technology in them is pretty astounding if you really look at them. There's no reason to lump them in with Beats. I work with both on a daily basis, along with the occasional Sennheiser HD800, which is far and away above the others (at $1600 it better be!), and there's no way Beats is anywhere near Bose. Pull a pair of each apart and if you tell me Beats is anywhere near the quality of Bose, you're nuts.
thatotherguy.. said:
I've gone throw 3 pairs of executives
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why?
fool me once...shame on you
fool me twice... shame on .... you're not gonna fool me again
fool me thrice...
mokash34 said:
why?
fool me once...shame on you
fool me twice... shame on .... you're not gonna fool me again
fool me thrice...
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First the right ear went out then they send me a replacement and the right ear didn't work right and the 3rd one is good so far
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tatonka_hero said:
It's pretty easy to remove the Beats branding on the back
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2267434&highlight=remove+beats
Bose's products have actually come quite a ways since their early "no highs, no lows, must be Bose" days. The technology in them is pretty astounding if you really look at them. There's no reason to lump them in with Beats. I work with both on a daily basis, along with the occasional Sennheiser HD800, which is far and away above the others (at $1600 it better be!), and there's no way Beats is anywhere near Bose. Pull a pair of each apart and if you tell me Beats is anywhere near the quality of Bose, you're nuts.
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We'll agree to disagree irt Bose. Their marketing campaign hasn't changed in years. The same goes with their products. Take it from an owner (sucker) of their lifestyle speaker system. I too was a young buck with a pocket full of cash. I sooooo regret that purchase every time I listen to it. Slowly each component is being replaced in my home theater set up.
Since then I have earned my electronics engineering degree and have had over 16 years in the industry. I will never purchase another Bose product in my lifetime.
There are better components out on the market that are less expensive. I let my own observations and other users experience factor in my purchasing experience vice an ad campaign.
Probably doesn't look good to see this headline for the uninformed, but I am sure HTC can still manage some kind of 'sound enhancing' quality to include with their phones. Maybe just a custom built-in equalizer or something, or a different partnership altogether. Either way, I think this is far from their biggest problem.