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[Q] Does Nexus one have a rank(position) on smartphones

wondered whether the n1 have a place in smartphones

is this a trick question?
its #1 obviously

britoso said:
is this a trick question?
its #1 obviously
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yeah. #1...truly...but only if you're rooted.

Of course it's #1 even on a Nexus forum

I have yet to see a new phone so far that surpasses the nexus one in all the major boxes. Things like build quality, rootability, community support, hardware etc. There have been many since that have beaten in in some areas. But it is still a very solid contender.

Nexus one is by far the gold standard of smartphones right now. Yes technology will surpass it at some point, thats inevitable. But in the here and now its topdog. Lots of friends i have use iphones and various android models and ive yet to see them be able to keep up with the speed and reliability of my N1. Im rooted using cm6 rc1 (wanting cm gingerbread) and im very happy that back in march i took the blind leap and bought a N1. Yes the business model behind the selling of the N1 was flawed but the actual phone was well worth it.

I love my N1! I think that some devices beat it in some areas but as an overall phone, especially for 'nerds', it has yet to be completely beaten.

The NexusOne's position is obviously doggy-style.

codesplice said:
The NexusOne's position is obviously doggy-style.
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I disagree, the Nexus is "on top", and definitely not "from behind"! xD
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Lmao
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jacoballen22 said:
Lmao
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wats funny. nexus one rocks yea it rocks. thanks guys

Gingerbread?

like really how does a few weeks turn into a few months??? does anyone know when and if they are coming out or what??? i dont like these fake gingerbread sdk roms...not fully optomize and speed sucks...Am, i the only one or what who is frustrated?

xghostyxjokerx said:
like really how does a few weeks turn into a few months??? does anyone know when and if they are coming out or what??? i dont like these fake gingerbread sdk roms...not fully optomize and speed sucks...Am, i the only one or what who is frustrated?
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Firstly, "HI!".
These Gingerbread ROMs aren't all SDK. Some of them are AOSP which means the source code for Gingerbread that is available. This isn't however a Nexus One flavour of the code which is what most people are waiting for (me included). Soime of the AOSP stuff doesn't fully work due to lack of drivers etc...
Still good for some people though.

No, we don't have enough whining threads. Let's make some more.

xghostyxjokerx said:
like really how does a few weeks turn into a few months??? does anyone know when and if they are coming out or what??? i dont like these fake gingerbread sdk roms...not fully optomize and speed sucks...Am, i the only one or what who is frustrated?
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Not sure what you did to screw it up, but fitsnugly's CM7 builds (AOSP) have been running rock solid for me for the past week.

xghostyxjokerx said:
like really how does a few weeks turn into a few months??? does anyone know when and if they are coming out or what??? i dont like these fake gingerbread sdk roms...not fully optomize and speed sucks...Am, i the only one or what who is frustrated?
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Well, if you want the official gingerbread, buy a Nexus S. Barring that, sit back and wait until it gets released for the N1. Pissing and moaning about it here will get you nothing. And wow...*****ing about a ROM that isn't fully optimized enough for you. Entitled much? I guess I must have missed the gingerbread ROM that YOU put out that was 100% optimized and running top speed. Those devs that have already put out ROMs deserve a freaking beer, not a whine-fest from you.

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Well, if you want the official gingerbread, buy a Nexus S. Barring that, sit back and wait until it gets released for the N1. Pissing and moaning about it here will get you nothing. And wow...*****ing about a ROM that isn't fully optimized enough for you. Entitled much? I guess I must have missed the gingerbread ROM that YOU put out that was 100% optimized and running top speed. Those devs that have already put out ROMs deserve a freaking beer, not a whine-fest from you.
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like really how does a few weeks turn into a few months??? does anyone know when and if they are coming out or what??? i dont like these fake gingerbread sdk roms...not fully optomize and speed sucks...Am, i the only one or what who is frustrated?
first off nexus s is not much better than a nexus so not worth it sorry ...
second how much do we have to sit back im saying they said a few weeks that google will release it back in what oct? so yeh i and the most of us should be impatients ...
third yes these roms that have been coming out from dev are not so bad but it isnt optimezed obiviouslly its not from nexus one source..missing drivers and such??? and i do give beers and credits????shows how much you know? and i can whine all i want free country?

Google doesn't owe you any updates. You bought a working phone. Just because they do offer updates doesn't mean you are entitled to anything. If they never put out a gingerbread rom to the nexus one that's their right. They owe you nothing.
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Know-Fear said:
Google doesn't owe you any updates. You bought a working phone. Just because they do offer updates doesn't mean you are entitled to anything. If they never put out a gingerbread rom to the nexus one that's their right. They owe you nothing.
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+1
10 characters.

Know-Fear said:
Google doesn't owe you any updates. You bought a working phone. Just because they do offer updates doesn't mean you are entitled to anything. If they never put out a gingerbread rom to the nexus one that's their right. They owe you nothing.
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I understand what you're saying, but Google did say that the Nexus One would get updates as and when they are released.

redbullcat said:
I understand what you're saying, but Google did say that the Nexus One would get updates as and when they are released.
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Google says a lot of things.

McFroger3 said:
Google says a lot of things.
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True, true

Google doesn't owe you any updates. You bought a working phone. Just because they do offer updates doesn't mean you are entitled to anything. If they never put out a gingerbread rom to the nexus one that's their right. They owe you nothing.
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Wtf, Yes they owe us updates. We paid a lot of money for nexus one. If you dont need updates buy then a nokia 3010. You = happy. xD.
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Yes, that is a bit disingenuous to say that, considering one of the major selling points of the Nexus One was that it was the flagship phone, and should expect to the first dibs on updates.
I have no resentment of the nexus S getting GB first, but seriously, they are dragging it on.

xghostyxjokerx said:
like really how does a few weeks turn into a few months??? does anyone know when and if they are coming out or what??? i dont like these fake gingerbread sdk roms...not fully optomize and speed sucks...Am, i the only one or what who is frustrated?
first off nexus s is not much better than a nexus so not worth it sorry ...
second how much do we have to sit back im saying they said a few weeks that google will release it back in what oct? so yeh i and the most of us should be impatients ...
third yes these roms that have been coming out from dev are not so bad but it isnt optimezed obiviouslly its not from nexus one source..missing drivers and such??? and i do give beers and credits????shows how much you know? and i can whine all i want free country?
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Most of us are rooted and running CyanogenMod7, and from the problems I read about from the people on unrooted phones, I wouldn't care if Google ever release a OTA, I'm happy with Cyanogen's builds, and I've never had issues with speed, except when I was on stock which was about three hours.

midyat47 said:
Wtf, Yes they owe us updates. We paid a lot of money for nexus one. If you dont need updates buy then a nokia 3010. You = happy. xD.
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They owe "us" nothing. We bought a phone that was working, had an OS, and the only selling point of it was - it's a developer phone, easily rootable and customizable. Nobody ever said anything about updates, you didn't pay for them, and if you think you did - think again until you understand it completely. They happen? Thanks a lot. They don't? Oh well, such is life. They're delayed? Sit tight and wait.

midyat47 said:
Wtf, Yes they owe us updates. We paid a lot of money for nexus one. If you dont need updates buy then a nokia 3010. You = happy. xD.
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I paid a lot more for my house, car, and even my TV - I think I'm going to have to explore this "they owe us updates" thing...
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It's true that they don't owe us anything, and it's their right if they decided that they are not going to update the nexus one. What I think people are complaining about is Google said about a month and a half ago that the OTA will be happening in the coming weeks. If they are going to take 2-3 months to push out the update then maybe 'coming weeks' probably wasn't the right choice of words, coming months is more appropriate.
I really don't like how Google handles all these updates, specifically how they chose to stay quiet about this issue. They said it'd be out in a few weeks, if it doesn't, why don't they give us some insight on what went wrong. A simple 'We found some bugs that would take a while to fix' and I'd be completely satisfied.

McFroger3 said:
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Wow I just figure out what 10 characters mean lol yes I'm a lil slow in the head

midyat47 said:
Wtf, Yes they owe us updates. We paid a lot of money for nexus one. If you dont need updates buy then a nokia 3010. You = happy. xD.
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I paid a lot of money for my 2 computers too. But Dell and Microsoft don't "owe" me free updates either. Aside from that one time.........
Wait no, Google has never been too on target with their release dates.

There are still two major bugs that have to be fixed to my knowledge. The random reboot bug and the SD card vulnerability bug. Until these two bugs are fixed, 2.3 will not arrive on the N1.

GS4 Google Edition

I doubt this is true, but if it is man I can't wait to get our hands on the firmware.
Samsung GS4 Google Edition (I/O Rumor)
Updated I/O Rumors
App Syncing
Google Streaming Music Service

Yea, that would be pretty sweet. Looking very forward to the exciting news that'll surely come out.
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The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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GiantJay said:
The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going

shabbypenguin said:
if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going
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That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.

samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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couldn't you just flash an aosp rom? no bloat.

samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.

It is true,

Just confirmed at Google I/O to sell starting on June 26th in the US for $649.99. All the same specs including 16GB of on board storage. Also throwing in an unlocked bootloader.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/15/go...axy-s4-with-stock-android-for-649-on-june-26/
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I'll love Samsung forever if they give us an official way to get stock Android on all Galaxy s4s
Hear that Samsung. I'll love you forever
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Power to those who want it, but if I wanted pure Google, I'd just get the Nexus 4 or wait for the Nexus 5 to come out around Xmas. The one reason why I love this S4 is for the option of running TW or AOSP. Add a most likely MIUI option down the road and I'm set.
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.

mjs2011 said:
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.
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#firstworldproblems

Fuzzy Wuzzy said:
#firstworldproblems
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Well, my Nexus 7 has also violated my human rights a couple of times (specifically waterboarding), but I didn't think it was worth mentioning in this thread.

Can't wait till this gets ported to other GS4s on different carriers...

Cnet and SlashGear, among others, are saying this is the same version currently out for Tmobile. That's excellent news as the i9505, all its variants - and quite possibly the d2 (i9305) series - are going to get some serious love from Google as a result.
We already have CM radio working for us. The rest should be fairly common between us and Tmobile, meaning that we should see this over on our side in short order.
Guess I have a new project after all....

shabbypenguin said:
no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.
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can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g

samdsox said:
can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g
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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...

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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...
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well iguess ill have to wait for teh ext to int sd thing

I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.

asuh said:
I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.
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Devs will be surely bringing a version to Sprint, even if Google doesn't. H/w is still the same.
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Just got a Nexus, have some questions

Hi,
I was really hoping the rumors would have been true and the Nexus 7 2 would have been announced. I was ready to pre-order last week. That didn’t happen so I pulled the trigger on the current Nexus 7. While I'm disappointed that I didn't get to get the brand new one I am VERY happy with it so far. I also got the official Nexus dock and a keyboard case. I have to say the official dock is so great I may buy a 2nd one! It’s overpriced but soooo nice.
Anyway, one thing I want to do right away is be able to get and send SMS texts from my phone on my N7. I have a Droid Razr Maxx by the way. What is the best software to do this?
Is there a free way to turn on the wireless tether on my Razr so I can connect my N7 to it? I also play Ingress and it would be cool to be able to use the N7 for that.
I'm not ready to root and try a custom ROM yet but what are some of the "must have" apps for the N7? Any info would be great!
Thanks
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Droid9 said:
While I'm disappointed that I didn't get to get the brand new one I am VERY happy with it so far.
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lol the "new one" doesn't even exist, the disappointment is unfounded for the time being

lolcopter said:
lol the "new one" doesn't even exist, the disappointment is unfounded for the time being
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Well yes but I think we all know there will be a new one sometime in the next 6 months.

Droid9 said:
Well yes but I think we all know there will be a new one sometime in the next 6 months.
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Possibly, but being mad about not being able to buy something which doesn't even exist yet is a waste of time and energy

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Possibly, but being mad about not being able to buy something which doesn't even exist yet is a waste of time and energy
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He didn't say he was mad. He was hoping for a new release, there wasn't so he just bought what was available now.
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Save the disappointment for when the new version is actually released I guess
Current logic is flawed, that's all. I'll shut up now, carry on.
FWIW OP, I was expecting an updated OS, when that didn't happen I unlocked, rooted, and began flashing whatever I wanted

redmonke255 said:
He didn't say he was mad. He was hoping for a new release, there wasn't so he just bought what was available now.
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Exactly. I wasn't going to buy the current one until after the big Google announcement. That would just be dumb. But again, I love this device so lets stop talking about "what if" or "when it does come out"... I want to talk about the cool things this one can do.
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Since its brand new, i'd recommend unlocking and rooting right away, just to get that out of the way should you wish to flash stuff later. Better to do it early since unlocking wipes everything and there's little data to keep that early. Having said that, I just finally unlocked/rooted after months of ownership and replacing all the data was trivial. Just a recommendation.
It's a very capable tablet completely stock, I just like tweaking things and the tablet UI is cool IMO.

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Since its brand new, i'd recommend unlocking and rooting right away, just to get that out of the way should you wish to flash stuff later. Better to do it early since unlocking wipes everything and there's little data to keep that early. Having said that, I just finally unlocked/rooted after months of ownership and replacing all the data was trivial. Just a recommendation.
It's a very capable tablet completely stock, I just like tweaking things and the tablet UI is cool IMO.
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Can you direct me to the easiest unlocking instructions?

Droid9 said:
Can you direct me to the easiest unlocking instructions?
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http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475
Used this yesterday it worked perfectly, just follow the instructions, fix the drivers etc and it's a cakewalk

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Can you direct me to the easiest unlocking instructions?
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I think Wugs tool is pretty easy.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1766475

Nexus vs Google Edition Phones

Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry for being rude, as a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.

ngr.hd said:
Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute big squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry if I was rude, being a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/

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Well, this killed it for me
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Well, this killed it for me
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Bullseye!

Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.

LoVeRice said:
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Why would someone do that? Just get the regular version...
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lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...eive-updates-shortly-after-they-are-released/

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Well, this killed it for me
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I sound like a broken record saying this since day 1. The OEMs have to put their proprietary drivers and kernels (firmware) into the image or the software wont' know how to communicate with the hardware. I guess if the OEMs were willing to release them to Google then I guess Google could handle the updates. Then you have to ask: why would Google take on that responsibility? Would the OEMs openly give Google those drivers in a day and age where anyone can sue anyone over anything because something looks similar to something else? None of that makes sense.

Yeah I'm kinda dissapointed... I want the latest and greatest on my N4 but still don't have it... Hopefully it's just a matter of days... Hopefully hours....
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PJcastaldo said:
Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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One click methods are in no way "the same thing".
Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument here, its my personal preference. If you like one click methods then thats fine.

ngr.hd said:
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.

Once they launch will be the last time they have something the Nexus doesn't. The moment Google said that HTC/Samsung were responsible for updates and they weren't hosting/posting source means those phones will almost certainly be behind the Nexus.

bozzykid said:
I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden not available to the Nexus owners.

lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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+1 Only Nexus reveal the real beauty of Android.

ngr.hd said:
That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden still not available to the Nexus owners.
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Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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El Daddy said:
Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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Hmm...wait and watch.

why are some people sooo sensitive, "my nexus should get this first" , "all others must wait" ...
look a little out of the box, these Google Edition phones are promoting stock android, whether they'll get updates parallel with the nexus or will join after a few days/weeks delay it doesn't matter. We all want more stock android options, and that's a step in the right direction, popularizing stock bloat-free android.
So, yeah, grow up and stop acting like samsung galaxy/iphone/etc.. blinded fanboys.

Can't believe you guys are complaining about a new camera app and live wallpaper. Nexus is just asop pure android 100% Google stuff... Doesn't mean Google owes us latest of the latest updates.
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ngr.hd said:
That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
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How do you know the GE phones will get those features first? They haven't even been released yet? And they won't be in users hands until after July 9th.