Nexus vs Google Edition Phones - Nexus 4 General

Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry for being rude, as a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.

ngr.hd said:
Hello
As you know the release of Samsung Galaxy S4 GE and HTC One GE offering the same flavour as Nexus users already have a taste for.
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute big squash or changes to any core app.
What would be the update cycle of these junk phones? Will the Android updates be prioritised for the Nexus or will it released for the junks together?
Sorry if I was rude, being a loyal Nexus fan, I seriously hate these so called idiotic Google Edition.
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Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/

trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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Bullseye!

Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.

LoVeRice said:
Just wondering if you can flash sense/touchwiz to these phones.
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Why would someone do that? Just get the regular version...
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lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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http://www.droid-life.com/2013/06/2...eive-updates-shortly-after-they-are-released/

trentreed said:
Well, this killed it for me
http://www.androidpolice.com/2013/0...play-edition-one-or-s4-oems-will-handle-otas/
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I sound like a broken record saying this since day 1. The OEMs have to put their proprietary drivers and kernels (firmware) into the image or the software wont' know how to communicate with the hardware. I guess if the OEMs were willing to release them to Google then I guess Google could handle the updates. Then you have to ask: why would Google take on that responsibility? Would the OEMs openly give Google those drivers in a day and age where anyone can sue anyone over anything because something looks similar to something else? None of that makes sense.

Yeah I'm kinda dissapointed... I want the latest and greatest on my N4 but still don't have it... Hopefully it's just a matter of days... Hopefully hours....
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PJcastaldo said:
Its the same thing... You can see it happening step by step and what's occurring during each step.. That's silly if you ask me..
What turns me off is the simple fact that they are fake nexus devices.. While we will get Google updates almost immediately, those devices still have to rely on HTC or Samsung remembering to keep their thumbs out of their asses..
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One click methods are in no way "the same thing".
Edit: I'm not trying to start an argument here, its my personal preference. If you like one click methods then thats fine.

ngr.hd said:
Do you think inclusion of the new type of camera app and various other features in these junks defeats the purpose of owning a Nexus? It is we who should get the update of even a minute bug squash or changes to any core app.
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I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.

Once they launch will be the last time they have something the Nexus doesn't. The moment Google said that HTC/Samsung were responsible for updates and they weren't hosting/posting source means those phones will almost certainly be behind the Nexus.

bozzykid said:
I don't understand what you are saying. What other "features" are you talking about? A red phase beam wallpaper? These phones haven't been released yet. My guess is the N4 will get those changes when 4.3 is released which may come before the GE phones are even released. Most likely lots of backend changes to the camera were needed to get it to work with the new driver hardware in the GE phones.
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That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden not available to the Nexus owners.

lyall29 said:
I'm right there with you buddy. The reason I love Nexus devices is, if something goes wrong I can flash the factory image and everything is good again. No factory image from Google = no go for me.
Edit: Before I start to see "HTC has the ruu and Samsung phones use Odin to flash back to stock". I don't like one click methods. I want to fastboot flash all the images one at a time so I can see what's going on.
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+1 Only Nexus reveal the real beauty of Android.

ngr.hd said:
That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
And talking about other features, I'm sure there would be some still hidden still not available to the Nexus owners.
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Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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El Daddy said:
Oh boo-hoo. We'll get an update soon enough.
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Hmm...wait and watch.

why are some people sooo sensitive, "my nexus should get this first" , "all others must wait" ...
look a little out of the box, these Google Edition phones are promoting stock android, whether they'll get updates parallel with the nexus or will join after a few days/weeks delay it doesn't matter. We all want more stock android options, and that's a step in the right direction, popularizing stock bloat-free android.
So, yeah, grow up and stop acting like samsung galaxy/iphone/etc.. blinded fanboys.

Can't believe you guys are complaining about a new camera app and live wallpaper. Nexus is just asop pure android 100% Google stuff... Doesn't mean Google owes us latest of the latest updates.
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ngr.hd said:
That's the point, why are GEs getting the new camera app with new arc like settings and Nexus are left behind. Why is that "we" should wait for 4.3 and expect that the new camera would be included in that. It is a clear blow to the loyal Nexus owners who actually gets all updates to the Android first, even a small bug squash.
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How do you know the GE phones will get those features first? They haven't even been released yet? And they won't be in users hands until after July 9th.

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Opinion?

I assume everyone in this forum is a nexus one owner, if u were going 2 upgrade 2 one phone wat phone would that b and why?
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Personally, I would not upgrade to anything that has yet been announced as the dual core phones already hitting the market are soon to be leapfrogged by the quad-core Tegra & Qualcomm chips late this year / early next year.
The N1 is still an awesome device and still gets plenty of Google love as evident by the OTA to Gingerbread (though many were claiming abandonment due to the delay).
chillwill11 said:
I assume everyone in this forum is a nexus one owner, if u were going 2 upgrade 2 one phone wat phone would that b and why?
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Well, whichever phone i'd choose i would certainly want one where all the letters on the keyboard work properly. It seems that the keyboard you are currently using is broken
The next Nexus Phone, so probably when Android Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. It should be a better improvement from the N1 to the next Nexus than it was going to the Nexus S.
Keep the N1 for now until a much better device arrives especially if your T-Mobile usa. Consider the Atrix if on At&t...
I would suggest the next Nexus
dnlsmy said:
The next Nexus Phone, so probably when Android Ice Cream Sandwich comes out. It should be a better improvement from the N1 to the next Nexus than it was going to the Nexus S.
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navlem said:
I would suggest the next Nexus
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I feel the same way, I found an excuse to get a new gadget and bought a xoom. Seeing as its google experience ill be knee deep in honeycomb to keep my addiction fueled. Next phone, nexus hd with a orion processor and hi resolution amoled with the fingerprint scanner and a george foreman grill... you know for bacon.
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I am hoping that the next Nexus blows us away and makes it worth buying a new phone when I don't need one. For now, I just can't justify it when the N1 it still so great. There's nothing out there that can really do anything that I can't do. Sure, turn maps with two fingers... but really, I don't need that. NFC, yeah, but it's not common enough to be worth it.
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I am hoping that the next Nexus blows us away and makes it worth buying a new phone when I don't need one. For now, I just can't justify it when the N1 it still so great. There's nothing out there that can really do anything that I can't do. Sure, turn maps with two fingers... but really, I don't need that. NFC, yeah, but it's not common enough to be worth it.
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I swear if you search for it theirs a hacked maps 5.0 that allows finger rotation!
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ChongoDroid said:
I swear if you search for it theirs a hacked maps 5.0 that allows finger rotation!
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Its not a hacked Maps apk, but some changes to your system files that trick the system into thinking the N1 is a true multitouch device. You can either replace the files found in thread below or flash the zip in recovery depending on your comfort level.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880447&highlight=Maps+rotation
Rod3 said:
Its not a hacked Maps apk, but some changes to your system files that trick the system into thinking the N1 is a true multitouch device. You can either replace the files found in thread below or flash the zip in recovery depending on your comfort level.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=880447&highlight=Maps+rotation
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How the heck does it do that? I thought the N1 couldn't do it at all.
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How the heck does it do that? I thought the N1 couldn't do it at all.
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The N1 has multitouch but doesn't do it well due to the crappy clearpad 2000 touch sensor used by HTC. The touch points will cross axis'. You will turn the map to the left and then it may turn right all of a sudden. Instead of enabling a half-assed map rotation, google disabled this feature on the N1. Personally, I have used this "hack" and had decent success YMMV.
If you do install this, remember to do it again after flashing different ROMS/Nightlies etc....

Nexus 4 not in AOSP

JBQ - " there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4"
https://groups.google.com/forum/m/?fromgroups#!topic/android-building/-ymcoMuDAbA
dafuq???
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That really sucks!
Yeah that does suck. Looks like I'm skipping this device.
Ya. Pretty much...
Too bad I already ordered it -.-
Oh well... he also said that he cannot comment on it being included in the future. I'm hoping by the time people start receiving them it will be added
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Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
You guys are interpreting that wrong.
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Audioboxer said:
Not quite sure what this means for us, can somebody explain to me in noob terms?
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its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
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its like any Samsung htc device that don't have open sourced drivers - hal's which is sucks :crying:
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FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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Audioboxer said:
FUUUU
I just sold my One X to get away from a gimped development scene...
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hehe , calm down cuz u will have vanilla android working out of the box ( so cm or aokp will work too i think )
Just means they haven't released source for it yet, nothing more significant than that. Sometimes stuff isn't finished enough for release, or they have licensing issues with a driver or two. Google *always* eventually release though.
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The N4 is aosp they are talking about something else
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-If AOSP starts pointing toward Nexus 4, you are having a bad problem,
and you will not go to space today (i.e.: there is nothing in AOSP
related to Nexus 4).
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WTF!!!!!!!!!!!! is it really not aosp....??
i sold my galaxy s3 and my brother kept an order for 16 gb nexus over there in us for me....
i fu**ked up....
... confused : how open sourced are other Nexus devices?
I think some of you are overreacting. It's not in AOSP, YET.
From the man himself
To clarify: Nexus 4 is not supported in AOSP at the moment: no source
files, no binaries.
JBQ
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... confused : how open sourced where other Nexus devices?
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Well, you can download AOSP, type a few commands and have something that boots a nexus device fairly quickly. I haven't looked too hard at it but assume there are some binary drivers that get thrown in there.
Google haven't release the build system for the N4 yet - OTOH you could probably hack one together yourself (none of the hardware on the N4 is new to android so presumably the drivers are out there somewhere).
All nexus devices are trivial to update via fastboot, and have builtin unlocks, and the N4 doesn't change that.
Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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My guess is that they cant open source a lot of the qualcomm stuff for the modem and the SOC. The TI OMAP is a very open SOC, but they are basically the only ones in the business that do that so if someone want to tinker with GPU, SOC or modem drivers the nexus 4 will not be as open as the galaxy nexus.
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Fingers crossed it will be I need the AOSP browser haha
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What the hell are you talking about? It still runs stock android...

GS4 Google Edition

I doubt this is true, but if it is man I can't wait to get our hands on the firmware.
Samsung GS4 Google Edition (I/O Rumor)
Updated I/O Rumors
App Syncing
Google Streaming Music Service
Yea, that would be pretty sweet. Looking very forward to the exciting news that'll surely come out.
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The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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GiantJay said:
The guy that leaked this is pretty legit. The only thing is, is that Sprint would probably never see this phone. I'm guessing T-Mobile and maybe at&t.
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if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going
shabbypenguin said:
if it has teh same hardware then who cares, i dont mind hacking crap up to see if we cant get a fully aosp rom going
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That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
samdsox said:
That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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couldn't you just flash an aosp rom? no bloat.
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That would be amazing. If it has the same hardware and aosp, would you be able to somehow get the 6 gigabytes that samsung software uses up? I would donate for that.
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no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.
It is true,
Just confirmed at Google I/O to sell starting on June 26th in the US for $649.99. All the same specs including 16GB of on board storage. Also throwing in an unlocked bootloader.
http://techcrunch.com/2013/05/15/go...axy-s4-with-stock-android-for-649-on-june-26/
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I'll love Samsung forever if they give us an official way to get stock Android on all Galaxy s4s
Hear that Samsung. I'll love you forever
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Power to those who want it, but if I wanted pure Google, I'd just get the Nexus 4 or wait for the Nexus 5 to come out around Xmas. The one reason why I love this S4 is for the option of running TW or AOSP. Add a most likely MIUI option down the road and I'm set.
That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.
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That's actually my only complaint with the Nexus 7. There are like 30 ROM's and the differences are so subtle that I just ended up running Official AOKP and I just ignore the rest.
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#firstworldproblems
Fuzzy Wuzzy said:
#firstworldproblems
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Well, my Nexus 7 has also violated my human rights a couple of times (specifically waterboarding), but I didn't think it was worth mentioning in this thread.
Can't wait till this gets ported to other GS4s on different carriers...
Cnet and SlashGear, among others, are saying this is the same version currently out for Tmobile. That's excellent news as the i9505, all its variants - and quite possibly the d2 (i9305) series - are going to get some serious love from Google as a result.
We already have CM radio working for us. The rest should be fairly common between us and Tmobile, meaning that we should see this over on our side in short order.
Guess I have a new project after all....
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no that would require a repartitioning. you have the 16 gigs of the chip, formatted prolly comes to 13Gigs, then however much storage system and all the other partitions take up will still bring you down a bit.
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can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g
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can't we re partition? I remember having to use pits for odin on the epic 4g
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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...
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right, teh pit is what tells teh device what partition goes where. you need to have a "custom" one. which on teh OG epic required a lot of testing and thus teh need for teh uart/jtag that team epiccm had setup. at best you end up risking all that to gain 1-2 gigs...
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well iguess ill have to wait for teh ext to int sd thing
I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.
asuh said:
I'm sad this isn't for Sprint. I would gladly and immediately get this phone if it was on Sprint.
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Devs will be surely bringing a version to Sprint, even if Google doesn't. H/w is still the same.
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Might buy this. Opinions on it?

Your guys thoughts on it? What should I expect, and how easy is it to unlock? I have past experience in unlocking and flashing stuff, as I'm coming from the Xperia Play.
EDIT - Didn't think of this when posting it, but how about some unlocked ROMs too. Preferably running at the latest Android version and is nice and fast but good battery life.
Its a nexus. Very easy to unlock, root, and install loads of custom roms and kernels.
However its rumored that there might be a new model announced soon. Something is happening June 10th. I'd advise to wait till then at least.
Otherwise the current N7 is awesome.
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I was also coming from the Xperia PLAY when i bought this tablet, i think about 2 months ago.
It was agood choice!
You get always the latest updates and there are a lot of great mods on the forum!
If you're coming from the Xperia Play than it's almost similar. With the Nexus 7 you can go into fastboot without your Windows/Mac/Linux. Just press the power button and the volume down button and you're into fastboot. The best tool to unlock/root/recovery is Wug's Nexus toolkit. And i've you're searchin' for an awesome experience then go for Paranoid Android and Franco.Kernel!
Yea man, it's a nexus, all new android content will either originate here or immediately be ported to us. It's incredible for the price. I might be jaded though, seeing as I'm coming from a Motorola DROID X2 as my only android device.
Thanks for the opinion guys! As soon as I get another $60, I'm gonna be buying this bad boy. Also, I was in the OG Android Dev section, and I noticed a nice ROM called XenonHD. It looked pretty nice. How's that compared to PAC? And on my X-Play I have SlimBean, and I did notice there was a SlimBean ROM for the N7.
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However its rumored that there might be a new model announced soon. Something is happening June 10th. I'd advise to wait till then at least.
Otherwise the current N7 is awesome.
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Disagree. One should enjoy his device and never care about something that does not yet exist.
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Dark Spark said:
Disagree. One should enjoy his device and never care about something that does not yet exist.
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There is some virtue in patience when it comes to technology, but the game changes so fast in 6 months there'll be a new thing that's better anyway so why worry? Also, I don't put stock in rumors. A new Nexus 7 might come before the end of the year, I think but maybe it'll be a 2 year stay like the Xoom was. I'm considering this current Nexus 7 to replace my aging A500. It looks super smooth even on 4.2.2 so I think I'd be happy with it.
Bought it, comes in tomorrow Can't wait to play with it. Also, where should I go about getting the drivers? I downloaded Wugs tool, isn't there an option to download drivers from that?
DubleJayJ said:
Bought it, comes in tomorrow Can't wait to play with it. Also, where should I go about getting the drivers? I downloaded Wugs tool, isn't there an option to download drivers from that?
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You won't regret buying it! I think you can get the drivers from Wugs but be very very careful using kits to unlock and root. Read the directions at least 3 times before doing anything. I've seen many posts about problems after using rooting kits. If you look it up its actually easier using adb to unlock and root.
DubleJayJ said:
Bought it, comes in tomorrow Can't wait to play with it. Also, where should I go about getting the drivers? I downloaded Wugs tool, isn't there an option to download drivers from that?
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Wug's toolkit is the best. You won't be needing anything else, really. Just read the instructions carefully.

So I take it that google just doesnt care about the consumer experience.

Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.
The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3
"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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The screen looks much better now in Android 4.3
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That would be great.
vanmarek said:
"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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But noobs do have geek friends. I have made 2 of my "noob" friends to purchase a nexus 4 when they were all set to get the galaxy S3.
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"Noobs" probably don't even know about the N4. They all buy the Galaxy S3/S4 or iCrap.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
Gambler_3 said:
Just got a nexus 4 for a friend and I am appalled at how average the screen still looks with stock kernel, how on earth has google not fixed this yet? Why does someone need to install franco kernel or whatever to get the best use of the hardware? Wasnt sheer optimization the hallmark of nexus? What is google doing it doesnt even care.
Similar was the story with the nexus S. You needed custom kernel to unlock the audio capability of the phone because google didnt want us to listen to such audio quality? It was simply appalling and did not make any sense at all especially after listening just how much difference it made to the sound quality and power.
I dont have much experience with the galaxy nexus so I cant say but once again the same old BS with the nexus 4, install custom kernel for blah blah cuz google is too lazy/doesnt care. Franco kernel makes such a big difference to the screen and there is obviously no "drawback" to this that I can see so what is google doing? It doesnt want its users to use their smartphones on a more beautiful screen with no cost added? The nexus 4 stock screen is even worse than the i9023 nexus S, what more can be said!!
PS: I am a power user and have no issues installing custom roms and kernels but due to google's indifference on so many things it seems like the nexus isnt that great a phone for noobs as it could be.
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I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.
Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202763890
hammer2007 said:
I think the screen is pretty good on my stock nexus 4 and thats from someone whos been a amoled user from the very start and i dont think google is the only one which didnt unlock its audio capabilities as samsung did the same with their galaxy s, that needed a kernel change i.e voodoo sound to release the full wolfson power.
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Yes but its an old story now, I havent heard of any such thing with the S3 and S4.
I think you've missed the point of the Nexus line. First and foremost it is a developer oriented platform. If it was meant to be pretty and have tons of near-useless eye candy and apps you'd be looking at an iPhone or Samsung or HTC. Customize the Nexus however you want, it is meant to be a blank slate.
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rayiskon said:
Threads started by Gambler_3:
- Who eats Pasta on a rainy day ???
- Why is there no mention of Kangaroos in the Bible? They're such an exciting animal..
- [POLL] I shot the sheriff, but i did not shoot ...
and my personal best:
-Who let the Sheep out ???
for the rest check here http://forum.xda-developers.com/search.php?searchid=202701407
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From the sharp mind that brought you 'all android apps have lag' and 'I don't understand why people complain about on screen buttons'... Here comes another epic thread.
Please everyone, take a look at the wonderful content that comes out of this guy's mind.
Look at it and lose the last hope you had in humanity!
Just kidding , don't.
He's a lame troll, don't feed the critter.
Pretty much the Uwe Boll of xda, top quality content.
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Thanks @drakester but I think the best thing is that honestly I don't think Gambler even owns Nexus 4.
So I'm not sure why to crap with all the negativity against it or Google and in this day and age with so many choices I can't even comprehend why not to go with the device you like instead of complain or sit down and start tweeking the way you want it - its Android! And please don't say there are limitations to what you can do with the customisation...
Or as an alternative please construct proper discussion and not complain.
Edit: please.... Power user? Or maybe yes you are right just a user indeed. So if yoy have so many issues why not to create something that everyone else could use it and enjoy it and you can set Google example how you believe things should be done.
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Saketme said:
Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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I assume you are being sarcastic as the N4 has not been a massive hit. And if I asked my friends what the Nexus 4 was, I don't think a single one of them would know it was a phone.
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Nope. The N4 has been a massive hit and is now known by pretty much everyone.
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fernandezhjr said:
Most people I know never even heard of the Nexus. I have to explain to them it is a Google phone. It isn't that Android doesn't care about the consumer. It is that this phone isn't targeted towards the average consumer. It is more a developers phone and such being the case, tweaking can be left for the great developers here.
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I agree with ya man. I recently switched from tmobile to metropcs and the guy in the metro store kept asking me...
"is this an android phone?"
yes...it is its the nexus 4.
"ive never heard of it. we carry tons and tons of phones but never seen this one"....are you positive its an android phone...
yes. im positive its running 4.2.2 jelly bean.....
"hmmmm ive never seen this before."
well its the google phone. i bought it straight from google
Everyone who knows android, knows what a nexus device is.........you must be being sarcastic. Let's judge a phones success by what the nimrod at metro PCS says???????
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So you claim to be a power user but you don't check the forum reactions before buying a phone????
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Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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Ace42 said:
Everyone things I have a galaxy, no one in their right mind knows what this thing is. They'll ask if that's the new HTC, Android, Droid, Samsung, Galaxy S, S4, or iPhone (??).
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One of the reasons why I get a nexus. Everywhere I have gone, it grabs attention. People used to seeing S3s and iPhones go 'that's a cool looking phone, which one is it'. Has even been a good conversation starter for me a few times. One time when I said it was from LG, this guy was like 'lg makes such nice phones too?!!'? LOL
N4 is relatively unknown, Google intended it to be that way..... imho, that's the only thing that makes any sense. Had the n4 had half the marketing the s3 or s4 had I think the n4 would've really made some noise.
What a shame, so many miss out on experiencing pure vanilla awesomeness
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