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Hi, I'm considering going back to WMobile phones and seriously considering the Kaiser. I currently have the N73 but had many wm5 phones before, SPV m600, Trinity, XDA Orbit, Wizard etc etc, all had annoying little "bugs".
I know the Kaiser is only just out, but can anyone tell me if you have noticed any of the following?
1) delay in ringing when receiving an incoming call. i.e. people on the other end hears a ring, but my phone takes about 3seconds before it rings...v. annoying!
2) delay in waking up.
3) slow response in dialing, i.e. when pressing a number on the dial pad.
4) Missing incoming comes, i.e. full reception but people unable to get through. Extremely annoying.
5) Rebooting itself
6) Alarm not going off.
Hows the call quality?
Anyone used and have any issues with the T9 pad, think that's what it's called. I use to use this, but gave me problems when i switched back to virtual keyboard, e.g. wouldn't switch back at all.
Sorry for all the questions.
1) Haven't tested this yet, i'm hoping this isn't the case though...!
2) Wakes up pretty quick, no unbarable lag
3) Same as 2) - all seems pretty responsive, no bad lag
4) Never had that issue before, don't expect to get it with the Kaiser
5) Nope, although i haven't installed any other apps etc yet...
6) Same as 4)
I can only really compare with the Universal (as that's the only other WM phone i've owned)... my initial impressions are that it's a lot quicker than the Universal... maybe that's partially due to the fact that i haven't installed any bits yet... or really tweaked it.
The 3 second delay was REALLY annoying.... as i'd have to start every phonecall with: "hello....... hello? heeeelllllllllo?" lol... i hope this isnt the case with the Kaiser!
Also i think a lot of the noticable improvements are also due to the fact that im using a vanilla HTC phone, as opposed to a crappy T-mobile 'runined' one! Also i think WM6 has brought in a lot of changes which are noticeably improved over WM5.
EDIT: oh and the only thing that really 'bugs' me - is that i'm used to the lovely VGA Screen of the Universal, so dropping down to QVGA is rather noticable... text looks blockier and using Cleartype seems to make it alot fuzzier than on the Universal.... but that's my only really negative point so far.... hopefully it'll be the ONLY one
EDIT2: Something else i just thought of.... the fact that when my Universal locked up... if i didnt have my Stylus on me (which i usually didnt) and i didnt have a small pin-like object to stick into the reset hole... i was SCREWED... which REALLY pi**ed me off.... countless times i'd be on the train home from work, about to email a friend... only to have my phone lockup... then i'd have to wait an hour before i could reset it and start writing... GRRRRR. Anyway, the Kaiser actually turns off when you hold down the power button... simple... and GREAT! (the power button on the Universal was so stupid.... in my opinion.... was there any way (except by using 3rd party apps) to actually turn the damn thing OFF?! lol)
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hongsit said:
Hi, I'm considering going back to WMobile phones and seriously considering the Kaiser. I currently have the N73 but had many wm5 phones before, SPV m600, Trinity, XDA Orbit, Wizard etc etc, all had annoying little "bugs".
I know the Kaiser is only just out, but can anyone tell me if you have noticed any of the following?
1) delay in ringing when receiving an incoming call. i.e. people on the other end hears a ring, but my phone takes about 3seconds before it rings...v. annoying!
2) delay in waking up.
3) slow response in dialing, i.e. when pressing a number on the dial pad.
4) Missing incoming comes, i.e. full reception but people unable to get through. Extremely annoying.
5) Rebooting itself
6) Alarm not going off.
Hows the call quality?
Anyone used and have any issues with the T9 pad, think that's what it's called. I use to use this, but gave me problems when i switched back to virtual keyboard, e.g. wouldn't switch back at all.
Sorry for all the questions.
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1) The delay is/was caused by the CPU/OS coming out of standby. With PDA type Windows Mobile devices they have a standby mode where the whole operating system is suspended. The mobile chip remains powered and when a call comes in it has to send a wake up request to the CPU and OS. It is the time the CPU and OS takes to become responsive that causes the delay. I noticed this delay was quite a lot on the Toshiba G900, several seconds or rings before it had woken up to sound the internal audio to alert you to the call. Sometimes it wouldn't wake at all :-(
The Kaiser wakes very quickly, hardly any delay at all, they have certainly put in a lot of work in this area.
Windows SmartPhones don't have this problem as they remain "always on" so respond without delay even though they may look off.
2) Answer above, very quick, almost instant.
3) Seems okay to me.
4) This is probably the OS failing to wake up, I would doubt this happens on the Kaiser.
5) Okay so far.
6) This again is related to the CPU/OS failing to wake up to a request. It is likely the phone you have experienced this with has some problems waking up when asked and would explain all your concerns.
Hope that helps.
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Phil
I read on another thread regarding the assembly which houses the green and red call buttons being loose. What is the opinion of other users over here. I am asking this as I am considering buying one soon to replace my Touch
Regards
Yes the whole section moves slightly on mine, it must just be where they float on a rubber section underneath.
I hadn't noticed this until now, why is this a problem? If it was fixed two tight the keys would scrape against the sides when pressed. Makes sense there is some space.
Regards
Phil
The buttons feel a bit 'loose' but no more than in any other device (the buttons on my PSP for example).
Thanks for the reply guys, kaiser sounds promising, just hope it continues to impress.
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1) delay in ringing when receiving an incoming call. i.e. people on the other end hears a ring, but my phone takes about 3seconds before it rings...v. annoying!
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There are two contributors to this:
One is a registry entry, where all of the "standard" options cause a 3 second pre-ring delay and 3 second delay between rings. This can be fixed in the registry.
The second is network delay. The caller will hear ringing before your phone rings (usually 1-2 rings) no matter what phone you use. I've had such delays with every mobile phone I have ever used, smart or not. If you try the registry hack (search around for the exact key, numerous posts on it and I can't remember the exact registry key at the moment) and are still not happy, you have one option to reduce ring latency - get a landline.
hey guys, I'm about to trade my htc desire for a nexus one and have read up on a few problems, and I wanted to find out first hand from you guys wether they're actually problems, or wether they are a load.
Which leads me to my questions.
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired)
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working
4. 3G connectivity issue
5. Wifi problems
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
7. earpiece: insufficient volume
and lastly -
Is there any reason why you would not recommend me selling my desire and buying a nexus?
Thanks,
Brandon
It would be easier to have them numbered
1. Trackball - never heard of it.
2. Power button - never had anything on mine, but there's a good reason to believe there was a faulty batch out there - some had to exchange theirs.
3. Touchscreen - The issue is that it starts "missing" the presses, registering way below. Pressing the power button twice (entering and exiting standby) "cures" it. A real issue, happens very rarely.
4. 3G - opinions are split on it, reported only by vocal minority and only in areas barely covered by 3G, and only long time ago. Personally, never saw anything that could be considered as "issue". Actually, rather good reception and good data rates over bad connections.
5. WiFi - again, depends on what "issue" is. It's not completely flawless, for example, fails connecting to encrypted network w/ Cisco 521G. Haven't had any problems on mine, though.
6. Proximity sensor - never heard of it.
7. Volume - never heard of it.
To the last question - why would you want to do that? You have a device with very similar specs that runs very similar firmware. Froyo is already out for Desire, AFAIK, and that exchange would only bring you the trackball notifications and the future updates (Gingerbread). Is that the reason for you to switch?
P.S. All or almost all of the issues listed above would be similar for both phones, since they're almost identical.
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To the last question - why would you want to do that? You have a device with very similar specs that runs very similar firmware. Froyo is already out for Desire, AFAIK, and that exchange would only bring you the trackball notifications and the future updates (Gingerbread). Is that the reason for you to switch?
P.S. All or almost all of the issues listed above would be similar for both phones, since they're almost identical.
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Thanks for the reply!
The problem is that the there are only about 4 chefs cooking for the desire (and about 5 others uploading their own version of the 4 roms). And the battery life on the new froyo ROMs are terrible. I used up the whole battery in about 6 hours with 3g not enabled, and brightness at the minimum.
and there seems to be much more support for the nexus. (XDA support that is)
+ there are much more cases available for the nexus, I think it looks better, and I really love the idea of the trackball and how it can change colors
P.S I forgot to ask how are the capacative buttens?
Some have said they don't exactly work (you have to press them a few times before it works)
I remember reading somewhere that you have to press them a bit above the buttons and they work fine. Is this true? or are some devices just randomly screwed?
Thanks,
Brandon
No to all.
Atleast I didn't notice
Any reason not to just keep the Desire? The n1 is great but the Desire is nearly identically and slightly better in some ways.
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hey guys, I'm about to trade my htc desire for a nexus one and have read up on a few problems, and I wanted to find out first hand from you guys wether they're actually problems, or wether they are a load.
Which leads me to my questions.
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes- Never had this problem......
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired)- Um, not for me.... But I have heard this happening to people.
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working - NEVER ever has this happened
4. 3G connectivity issue - I only use wifi since it's everywhere. More efficiant and faster!
5. Wifi problems - None for me.
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue - Nope
7. earpiece: insufficient volume - Nope, I find it too loud sometimes. But, I do have sensative hearing.
and lastly -
Is there any reason why you would not recommend me selling my desire and buying a nexus? No reasons honestly. They are both pretty similar except for support and design as well as a few other diffs. The only thing I like about the desire is it's hardware keys and chin
Thanks,
Brandon
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brandon1108 said:
Thanks for the reply!
The problem is that the there are only about 4 chefs cooking for the desire (and about 5 others uploading their own version of the 4 roms). And the battery life on the new froyo ROMs are terrible. I used up the whole battery in about 6 hours with 3g not enabled, and brightness at the minimum.
and there seems to be much more support for the nexus. (XDA support that is)
+ there are much more cases available for the nexus, I think it looks better, and I really love the idea of the trackball and how it can change colors
P.S I forgot to ask how are the capacative buttens?
Some have said they don't exactly work (you have to press them a few times before it works)
I remember reading somewhere that you have to press them a bit above the buttons and they work fine. Is this true? or are some devices just randomly screwed?
Thanks,
Brandon
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Ugh, I do have issues with the capacitive buttons. Like I said above, I envy hardware keys. It's not that they don't work, they just arent calibrated. You need to touch way above where they are for them to register. If you press the button where its placed exactly they don't work.
NOTE: I should let you know about all the cool things the Menu button does (second button with the lines) I just found out about the Menu button on my Nexus Lol!
I would do that trade and not have any issues at all. The nexus is The most active device right now and will be thru this year at least. Those problems you listed are not a big deal, the power button only fails for some people. Use track ball wake and you have nothing to worry about. Everything else is not really a problem.
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P.S I forgot to ask how are the capacative buttens?
Some have said they don't exactly work (you have to press them a few times before it works)
I remember reading somewhere that you have to press them a bit above the buttons and they work fine. Is this true? or are some devices just randomly screwed?
Thanks,
Brandon
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They're all screwed equally All the capacitive buttons register too high, so you have to press higher to hit them. At least they're consistent.
not a single mention of white notification burn-in. seems common.
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Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working
7. earpiece: insufficient volume
Thanks,
Brandon
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yup.
1. get stuck on going "down". kind of annoying but a spazz around with it fixes it.
2 yup, cant get it to unlock sometimes.
3, sort of. wouldnt mind it louder and of better quality. More depth.
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not a single mention of white notification burn-in. seems common.
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:O I remember someone talking about it in the desire forum - If I use a black notification bar I should be fine right?
Brandon,
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes No
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired) Yes & Yes gettting repaired by HTC as we speak.
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working No - used to occasionally before Froyo but not anymore
4. 3G connectivity issue No
5. Wifi problems No
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue No
7. earpiece: insufficient volume No
8. how are the capacative buttons? Fine, If you swipe them downwards in the opposite direction but the same manner as you would, to select the notification bar. If you tap them with the pad of your finger instead of the point it also a non issue. OTOH tapping with the point of your finger you just need to tap slightly below.
PurpleSmurfLlama
I disagree and do not think the majority of power button failures are due to poor maintenance. Is your poor maintenance theory just a hunch perhaps? I keep my phone nice and clean, no obvious crap beneath the button. In another thread someone who had a failing power button dismantled his phone an reported the power button presses a switch that is connected via a ribbon cable to a circuit board. No amount of cleaning these fixed it for him. Furthermore people who have had their "power buttons" repaired have reported that all these these items appear to have been replaced when they get their repaired phone back from HTC. Same phone comes back with new IMEI because the circuit board has been changed as part of the fix. To me this suggests that on the faulty units the issue goes deeper than just the button and a users maintenance of it. I am just hoping that the FIX is permanent.
I've had my Nexus One for a few months now and I can't say I've had any of those problems, well my WiFi sometimes just disconnects, but I think that's just to do with the distance between my room and the router. As for button and trackball problems there's been none, even after a horrifying ordeal where a friend spilt beer on my N1 then instantly after in the panic I dropped it in the sand :/
The swap in my opinion can only be based purely on aesthetics, IMO the N1 is nicer, not being biased, the Desire is beautiful, I just think the N1 is more sleek. Hope this helps even a little.
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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:O I remember someone talking about it in the desire forum - If I use a black notification bar I should be fine right?
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Yes exactly, just use black color and you'll be fine. That white is such a horrible color anyway.
brandon1108 said:
Does your nexus one have any of the following problems:
1. trackball gets stuck sometimes
2. the on/off/standby switch has stopped working (or you have had to send it back to be repaired)
3. the touchscreen randomly stops working
4. 3G connectivity issue
5. Wifi problems
6. Proximity sensor sensitivity issue
7. earpiece: insufficient volume
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How about a poll?
1. no
2. switch is "soft" on the replacement I just received (was fine on original phone and 1st replacement)
3. no
4. YES! RECEPTION IS A BIG PROBLEM! AS IS 3G CONNECTIVITY (3 bars and websites won't load WTF?)!
5. no
6. no
7. yes
maybe add:
8. PINK screen - YES. Just keep asking HTC for replacements, screw them for their poor quality control.
9. camera color tint (blue for me) - YES. Ok for me ... but I made go another replacement binge if I find anything at fault with this phone.
10. I also experience bad call quality - got fixed by the replacement.
1. Trackball - NO problems here.
2. Power button - NO problems here.
3. Touchscreen Unresponsive - Roughly once or twice a month. I put it to standby and back, and it's fixed. I've noticed that only certain ROMs do this. I never had the problem on FRF50 or FRF83, but I have once in a while on FRF91.
4. 3G Connectivity - NO issues.
5. Wifi - NO issues.
6. Proximity sensor - NO issues.
7. Earpiece volume - NO issue, but I have always had one of Pershoot's kernels installed, which includes an "audio fix."
I would have no hesitation recommending a nexus. Though, if you're a gamer, I'd say get a Galaxy S phone because of the better GPU.
#3 is the only one that consistently pisses me off.. all the other ones are software and can and are fixed with different roms.
I know that this has been a fairly common complaint about the Nexus One but i'm wondering, roughly what percentage of people actually have this issue? To clarify, i mean the problem whereby touching the screen in one place is actually registering elsewhere on the screen.
I've had this problem since buying my n1 and having to constantly turn the screen off and back on again was driving me nuts. Finally i sent the unit back to Vodafone for repair and they in turn sent it to HTC to be fixed. So yesterday i got it back with an enclosed statement along the lines of "we have fixed your fault etc..".
Three minutes into using the damn thing and the fault crops up again. So much for that! To be fair to Vodafone they are sending out a replacement unit now but of course i'm concerned that even that will have the same issue.
What are the odds?
Here is the same.
To developers: the fact that resetting the screen fix the problem makes me to ask if there isn't a way to make the screen re-calibrate itself every X seconds/minutes, without shut off and on the screen every time. Seems to be until now the only solution to this extremely annoying issue.
It really is a bizarre one. I've seen people discussing whether it's a hardware or software issue but nobody seems to have a definitive answer. If it were a hardware problem, surely it would be constant/permanent? If it's a software issue i would have thought that somebody would have bug-fixed it by now? Especially as it seems so prevailant.
I'm stumped!
Other than this one problem though i am completely in love with this phone. The device itself feels solid, durable and pleasant to use. Android is improving all the time and it always impresses when you demonstrate to the un-initiated what the device is capable of. So close to perfect...but not quite!
EDIT... This from the wiki.. "- Q5: Sometimes my screen registers touches in incorrect places, and I need to turn the phone off and on to make it work correctly again
A: This is a hardware problem, nothing can be done about it. Nexus One's digitizer sucks.
Ho-Hum.
I have experienced this problem on android 2.1 ever since upgrading 2.2/2.2.1, I haven't had the problem. I'm very happy with my screen
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msavic6 said:
I have experienced this problem on android 2.1 ever since upgrading 2.2/2.2.1, I haven't had the problem. I'm very happy with my screen
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That suggests a software problem although i have had it on 2.1, 2.2 and now 2.2.1. I would say that it has happened to me within three minutes of using the phone, 50% of the time within that three minute window. In other words it's cropped up in half the texts/emails i have sent where i have had to do the screen off/on thing to complete the message.
Very annoying.
It has to do mostly with the way people hold their phones, the possibility of registering false touches - including, for example, touching the screen with fingers that aren't completely dry. Some have the issue more than others.
HW issues still can have SW workarounds sometimes. I'm not sure if it's the case. HW and SW need to be analyzed to find one, if exists.
There is no "calibrating" capacitive touchscreen. Resetting its controller might have effects like missing touches and other random screen misbehavior (for example - if the controller is tracking fingers, resetting it would cause it to lose the tracking).
Since getting my phone back from 'repair' the issue is less frequent, suggesting that it's not a usage problem as i'm obviously still using the phone in the same manner as before. Instead it seems that various devices suffer from the problem in varying degrees.
I suppose if i knew what they had actually done to the phone while it was being tended to it might help us discover why the frequency of the problem has been reduced. I know that the digitizer wasn't replaced as the phone came back with the same screen protector on it as it had when i sent it off. That being said, they obviously did something. I just don't know what!
Most probably replaced the phone's MB.
Try upgrading to the latest radio - the issue will probably not be 100% solved, but now I only get it maybe once a month or so...
I may tell them not to bother sending out a replacement. It's happening far less often since it was returned and (going by the poll results), there's a good chance that the replacement could actually be worse than this one is now.
Perhaps the 2.3 update will jar something loose.
ATTENTION PLEASE!!
after flashing miui latest ROM i've never had touchscreen issues anymore in over 20 hours of hard usage (also with the phone in charge!!).
I don't believe is a coincidence, developers please ask miui developers if they have integrated a code to fix this issues.
Thanks!
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pyngwie said:
ATTENTION PLEASE!!
after flashing miui latest ROM i've never had touchscreen issues anymore in over 20 hours of hard usage (also with the phone in charge!!).
I don't believe is a coincidence, developers please ask miui developers if they have integrated a code to fix this issues.
Thanks!
Sent from my Nexus One using XDA App
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could you please download Multitouch Visible Test
http://www.appbrain.com/app/multitouch-visible-test/com.batterypoweredgames.mtvistest
and report back?
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could you please download Multitouch Visible Test
http://www.appbrain.com/app/multitouch-visible-test/com.batterypoweredgames.mtvistest
and report back?
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I have already restored cyano 6.1.1.
However, about "multitouch issues" I mean inaccuracy, the fact that the touch is recognised in another point of the screen (particularly when you press the bottom part of the panel). I didn't verified the axes-inversion issue, but I'm almost sure that it persists.
The "touch inaccuracy" is nothing else than the usual axis-swapping thing. When accidental dual touches (palm/holding fingers/water/etc) happen, the digitizer goes nuts.
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The "touch inaccuracy" is nothing else than the usual axis-swapping thing. When accidental dual touches (palm/holding fingers/water/etc) happen, the digitizer goes nuts.
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I don't think so....I pay attentions when the screen goes crazy. I'm absolutely sure that (in charge for example) my touch is ONE.
The only times I was able to trigger the "screen nuts" effect, were when I was typing 2-fingered, and fast - making it register dual touches. Moreover, sometimes a single touch with a single finger is reported as series of touches. Once it happens, it stays until screen off.
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Moreover, sometimes a single touch with a single finger is reported as series of touches. Once it happens, it stays until screen off.
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I mean this....since I moved to MIUI this is not happened anymore.
Since I uninstalled Htcime the inaccuracy issues seem less so far! Almost only with the phone under charge ...much much better than before! Dunno why....
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I've scoured the internet in attempt to resolve this issue, and I know it's been talked about many a time before, but this just doesn't have an answer yet afaik.
Does anybody have any experience with fixing the inaccuracy of the touch screen after prolonged use? I love the nexus one, it's by far the best phone I've owned; but this little bug makes the phone completely unrealistic in real-world use.
If this isn't a software issue, it has to be something with the digitizer being powered off and back on to remove the accuracy bug. In that case, is there any low-level way to turn the digitizer off and back on as fast as possible every X seconds? That would mean losing touch capability for a few milliseconds, but is much better than locking and unlocking the phone each time it "goes wild."
I had given up all hope that this issue could be resolved in any fashion as dodgy hardware is, well...dodgy. Nothing can be done about it right?
I haven't had a screen wonk since starting in on the CM7 nightlies many moons ago!
IN YOUR FACE WONK!
Is there an FAQ about this digitizer issue?
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Is there an FAQ about this digitizer issue?
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No, but it's been covered so extensively that nobody really mentions it any more. Either that or others have found what i have, that somehow the CM7 ROM mitigates the problem. Seriously, i haven't had an issue with it for months!
My particular N1 was never good with stock ROMs. Hated them and gave me endless trouble with one thing or another. It's the polar opposite for me with CM ROMs. Never any issues at all. No call or screen wonk, none of the bugs that others often complain about. It's like the phone has an attitude!
After flashing something ridiculous like 40+ CM7 Nightlies and stable releases, i've not had to wipe data once
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No, but it's been covered so extensively that nobody really mentions it any more. Either that or others have found what i have, that somehow the CM7 ROM mitigates the problem. Seriously, i haven't had an issue with it for months!
My particular N1 was never good with stock ROMs. Hated them and gave me endless trouble with one thing or another. It's the polar opposite for me with CM ROMs. Never any issues at all. No call or screen wonk, none of the bugs that others often complain about. It's like the phone has an attitude!
After flashing something ridiculous like 40+ CM7 Nightlies and stable releases, i've not had to wipe data once
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Can you please describe what the digitizer issue was/is? I just ordered N1 and haven't received it yet. And what about call wonk? I haven't seen anything about this one.
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Can you please describe what the digitizer issue was/is? I just ordered N1 and haven't received it yet. And what about call wonk? I haven't seen anything about this one.
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Basically the digitizer has a couple of quirks. One is that after prolonged use (I found it to be completely random) the accuracy goes berserk, registering touches nowhere near they actually are. Secondly there is a switching of the axis when you cross two points: video. They are hardware related so there is no fix. The wonk is a problem with CyanogenMod7 specifically, causing black screens when receiving calls.
Personally I rarely if ever come across the digitizer problem and have never came across the wonk. They aren't deal breakers but can cause a few problems if you play a lot of multi-touch games.
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Basically the digitizer has a couple of quirks. One is that after prolonged use (I found it to be completely random) the accuracy goes berserk, registering touches nowhere near they actually are. Secondly there is a switching of the axis when you cross two points: video. They are hardware related so there is no fix. The wonk is a problem with CyanogenMod7 specifically, causing black screens when receiving calls.
Personally I rarely if ever come across the digitizer problem and have never came across the wonk. They aren't deal breakers but can cause a few problems if you play a lot of multi-touch games.
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When accuracy goes berserk - does powering phone off/on help?
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Can you please describe what the digitizer issue was/is? I just ordered N1 and haven't received it yet. And what about call wonk? I haven't seen anything about this one.
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Well, the touchscreen issue is nothing more than a bad digitizer that was released with the phone and never improved during manufacture of the device. All Nexii have the same one, although people suffered the problem in varying degrees. What would happen is every so often your touch on the screen would register in the wrong place so you may be selecting a shortcut on your homescreen to launch an app, but it might register the touch as being an inch higher/lower/somewhere random. the solution has always been to simply press the power button to turn the screen off/on again. This would fix the issue... until it occurred again.
The call wonk is really in two parts. Stock GB ROMs had a habit of introducing a slight delay in one party being able to hear the other during the start of a call. On CM7 ROMs it was a more significant issue of black screens and freezes during the start of a call. These didn't affect affect everyone though, and even Cyanogen himself didn't have it on on his own device.
EDIT: The other issue affecting the N1 was a weak, and often failing, power button. With the need to keep using it to fix the screen wonk the problem was made worse. That's why you might often see mentions of Trackball wake as it reduced the need to use the power button, therefore extending it's life. Trackball wake is only available on custom ROMs so bear that in mind too!
The phone isn't perfect but with the custom ROM devs doing there thing it's pretty decent for me
Hollow.Droid and DirkGently1 - I appreciate your responses.
Can I bring your attention to my other question to which nobody responded yet?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1077733
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When accuracy goes berserk - does powering phone off/on help?
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When the issue happens you just lock and unlock the screen to fix it. No need for a reboot.
This issue isn't really such a big deal. It happens once a week or so, and it takes a few seconds to black out the screen then unlock, problem gone.
This is my 2nd HTC in a row and it's partially due to their support. Usually they just respond to email, but very quickly and not usually with a canned response but rather some useful information.
This time, they called me. I just got off the phone with them and the gentleman I was speaking to asked for as much detail as he could get out of me to address the several issues I've had with this phone.
This is why I love HTC
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Cool story bro.
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gk1984 said:
This is my 2nd HTC in a row and it's partially due to their support. Usually they just respond to email, but very quickly and not usually with a canned response but rather some useful information.
This time, they called me. I just got off the phone with them and the gentleman I was speaking to asked for as much detail as he could get out of me to address the several issues I've had with this phone.
This is why I love HTC
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What was your issue? Curious if I can do the same
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What was your issue? Curious if I can do the same
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I had a nice little list, I didn't want to worry others that there are major issues and most of mine seem pretty isolated. but since you asked...
1. I've had a couple moments where it would be connected to wifi, but no activity - other devices on the network worked fine. (rare occurrence)
2. HDR images in brightly lit area (sunny afternoon) are over exposed - they seem to be aware of this but are telling people to adjust the exposure in image settings, which is grayed out in HDR mode (can be replicated on my phone every time, normal mode works fine)
3. Beats audio seems to go in and out over bluetooth, you can actually hear the effect turn off/on randomly but the setting shows it is on. (this is also consistent for me)
4. When calls are connected frequently in a short period of time (3 or more calls within a minute of the previous one ending), the audio is quiet and full of static and distortion. The other person hears me just fine, it's only my end. (seems to be regular occurrence)
5. Notifications aren't being sent through the headphone jack, but only the speakers - as a result, I can't hear the notifications. This is apparently normal that they still play through the speakers, but not normal that they don't also go through the headphones. (this can be replicated every time)
6. I periodically have wifi/3G/4G hand off issues. When switching from one to the other, it gets stuck with no data - as in no symbol in the notification bar and no activity. Airplane mode doesn't resolve it, still have to try switching data on/off. Only resolved by restarting the phone. (this is rare, but has happened several times in the almost 3 weeks i've had the phone)
7. Capacitive buttons not very sensitive
That's about it, they seem to only be aware of the capacitive buttons which they're looking into, but feel isn't an issue it seemed and about the hdr images being over exposed. The rest the guy I spoke to was unaware about and was probing pretty deeply about when/how/what with these issues. In regards to the HDR images being over exposed, what they didn't seem to know was that you couldn't adjust exposure or other settings when HDR is toggled. They apparently had been suggesting this to people previously.
Also, I asked if Sprint's version shipped with the fixes the European model recently received an update for. He said he wasn't sure and didn't have any information about the international versions.
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I had a nice little list, I didn't want to worry others that there are major issues and most of mine seem pretty isolated. but since you asked...
1. I've had a couple moments where it would be connected to wifi, but no activity - other devices on the network worked fine. (rare occurrence)
6. I periodically have wifi/3G/4G hand off issues. When switching from one to the other, it gets stuck with no data - as in no symbol in the notification bar and no activity. Airplane mode doesn't resolve it, still have to try switching data on/off. Only resolved by restarting the phone. (this is rare, but has happened several times in the almost 3 weeks i've had the phone)
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I don't like this one myself, it's one of the few unavoidable breaking issues with the phone.
I see it too. Screen's been on, I've been connected to WIFI for a while... strong/excellent signal... then I see the WIFI icon disappear, maybe a message about "you can enable GSM roaming" and the app I'm in fails with no data connection being present and tells me to retry (or in the case of YouTube, it'll spin loading and loading indefinitely).
Then I might see 3G appear for a moment, then WIFI comes back. Then the phone will work again.
gk1984 said:
I had a nice little list, I didn't want to worry others that there are major issues and most of mine seem pretty isolated. but since you asked...
1. I've had a couple moments where it would be connected to wifi, but no activity - other devices on the network worked fine. (rare occurrence)
2. HDR images in brightly lit area (sunny afternoon) are over exposed - they seem to be aware of this but are telling people to adjust the exposure in image settings, which is grayed out in HDR mode (can be replicated on my phone every time, normal mode works fine)
3. Beats audio seems to go in and out over bluetooth, you can actually hear the effect turn off/on randomly but the setting shows it is on. (this is also consistent for me)
4. When calls are connected frequently in a short period of time (3 or more calls within a minute of the previous one ending), the audio is quiet and full of static and distortion. The other person hears me just fine, it's only my end. (seems to be regular occurrence)
5. Notifications aren't being sent through the headphone jack, but only the speakers - as a result, I can't hear the notifications. This is apparently normal that they still play through the speakers, but not normal that they don't also go through the headphones. (this can be replicated every time)
6. I periodically have wifi/3G/4G hand off issues. When switching from one to the other, it gets stuck with no data - as in no symbol in the notification bar and no activity. Airplane mode doesn't resolve it, still have to try switching data on/off. Only resolved by restarting the phone. (this is rare, but has happened several times in the almost 3 weeks i've had the phone)
7. Capacitive buttons not very sensitive
That's about it, they seem to only be aware of the capacitive buttons which they're looking into, but feel isn't an issue it seemed and about the hdr images being over exposed. The rest the guy I spoke to was unaware about and was probing pretty deeply about when/how/what with these issues. In regards to the HDR images being over exposed, what they didn't seem to know was that you couldn't adjust exposure or other settings when HDR is toggled. They apparently had been suggesting this to people previously.
Also, I asked if Sprint's version shipped with the fixes the European model recently received an update for. He said he wasn't sure and didn't have any information about the international versions.
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I am a long time HTC fan and I have experienced #1 and #6 more than once. It can be annoying but the build quality, support, and overlay of sense make it worth dealing with. Just a personal opinion I have. I think my wimax phones had far less problems than this one and my evo lte. Just a matter of them being new for sprint I guess. It may not even be HTC's fault. Something on sprints end. Who knows.
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