Hello! I am relatively new to Android and I would like to receive some pieces of advice from you guys. What's the best option between I9000 and Nexus S ? I know that you've been asked a thousand times this question, but what I'm interested to hear is which form that two is the best choice if I want to develop Android apps and test them on my terminal.
For a couple of weeks I've been "playing" with Android SDK, making some minor apps in Eclipse and test them on the AVD, but now I want to purchase my own Android phone. Is it worth the difference of 200 $ in order to buy the Nexus S , or should I stick to the I9000 ?
for app sales many more galaxy s in various flavors ie t mobile, att, verizon, sprint etc. vs nexus s only on t mobile..
so in terns of app sales go with galaxy s
So, I won't have any problems uploading and testing my apps on a I9000 with a stock Android (without custom ROMs and other modifications) ? I'm asking this because I know that I9000 has that Touchwiz interface that is not present on the Nexus S.
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I am currently using a Nexus One but since Google wont make a Nexus 2 I was thinking of buying a Samsung Phone in the future. The main reason being that I hear they will have dual core phones with two 1 ghz processors on board starting late this year. My main reason I want this is for running PSX4droid even better; hopefully making some games which freeze and become unplayable to work. Also wondering if someone will be able to release a PS2 emulator for Android with the extra processing power.
Any how my main concerns with switching from my Nexus One is that the other carriers and phone companies load the phones up with their crap UIs. Prime example is all this fuss over the Droid just getting 2.2 when I got that in May no problem for my Nexus One.
Will I be able to use a leaked update to update my phone ahead of the carriers without rooting? If it does will I have to use a custom Rom like Cynaogen etc to to run the update? I would prefer to just use the one step root like AndRoot and then run the update and delete bloatware off the phone. i really dont care for trying to keep custom Roms up to date. I just want the stock Android UI.
Trev186 said:
Hi,
I am currently using a Nexus One but since Google wont make a Nexus 2 I was thinking of buying a Samsung Phone in the future. The main reason being that I hear they will have dual core phones with two 1 ghz processors on board starting late this year. My main reason I want this is for running PSX4droid even better; hopefully making some games which freeze and become unplayable to work. Also wondering if someone will be able to release a PS2 emulator for Android with the extra processing power.
Any how my main concerns with switching from my Nexus One is that the other carriers and phone companies load the phones up with their crap UIs. Prime example is all this fuss over the Droid just getting 2.2 when I got that in May no problem for my Nexus One.
Will I be able to use a leaked update to update my phone ahead of the carriers without rooting? If it does will I have to use a custom Rom like Cynaogen etc to to run the update? I would prefer to just use the one step root like AndRoot and then run the update and delete bloatware off the phone. i really dont care for trying to keep custom Roms up to date. I just want the stock Android UI.
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Psx4droid itself needs an update. ZodTTD has barely looked at psx4droid since its release. So I doubt with any extra power it would make a difference. PS2 emulation is difficult. It's still not that good on PC. Samsung Android Phones come with TouchWiz but there are alternitive launchers you can use if you don't like it. Cyanogen is currently unsupported with the Galaxy S phones and I don't think theres a vanilla ROM either. Someone who knows more on this please enlighten me.
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I just found out today from various pages online that the galaxy tab is already selling with froyo. Now my understanding is that most of you might already know about it ? When samsung postponed their 23rd sept. release for froyo on the SGS, I was still optimistic hoping that the update would be worth waiting for and solve a majority if not all of our problems with the phone, including lag, whenever it came. But now I learn the update does already exist, but only for a newer device! What am I, as a customer supposed to make of this ? If there already is a froyo firmware existing with the samsung's TouchWiz UI, WHY is not brought to the SGS yet ? Earlier I sympathised with samsung thinking that they're putting decent effort in the froyo update before releasing it to end users. But if this is the scenario, I am very upset....
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Froyo IS coming to SGS, it will be available from this week onwards starting with T-Mobile as you might have already seen on all android forums, blogs and websites.
Galaxy Tab is a big product for Samsung, since it's initial firmware is based on Froyo, I’m pretty sure Samsung is putting a lot more effort into getting Froyo out on the Tab compared to having it on the SGS. Its perfectly understandable. Without Froyo they cant release the Tab, but SGS still functions with 2.1.
I know that. Isn't the hardware on both devices the same ? So why wasn't there a simultaneous release of galaxy tab with froyo and froyo for galaxy s ? What takes things so long for SGS ?
I dont know for sure, but most likely the hardware is similar (if not the same). But the firmware has few differences, for example Samsung had to modify it to fix screen scaling issues for 1024x600; and if you have seen some of the Galaxy Tab demo videos, you might have seen that some of it’s UI components are different too (video conferencing interface, eMail client, etc..). Maybe Samsung is putting most of their developers on Tab's firmware development giving less priority to SGS.
Yes well, this is exactly what I'm saying is wrong, for a company like samsung. Especially in this case for nearly identical devices...
As far as the resolution is concerned, being an engineer, I can say it's not that big an ordeal to scale it down. And if you're saying that the galaxy tab has more components/apps out of the box, then that would logically imply that froyo for galaxy s should have arrived first, as it would require lesser development time. Instead, we're seeing months of delays! How is that justified ?
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I just found out today from various pages online that the galaxy tab is already selling with froyo. Now my understanding is that most of you might already know about it ? When samsung postponed their 23rd sept. release for froyo on the SGS, I was still optimistic hoping that the update would be worth waiting for and solve a majority if not all of our problems with the phone, including lag, whenever it came. But now I learn the update does already exist, but only for a newer device! What am I, as a customer supposed to make of this ? If there already is a froyo firmware existing with the samsung's TouchWiz UI, WHY is not brought to the SGS yet ? Earlier I sympathised with samsung thinking that they're putting decent effort in the froyo update before releasing it to end users. But if this is the scenario, I am very upset....
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That would be wonderful if the Tab was already selling. Any idea where to get one right now?
I think samsung has some stability problems with TW crap he loads into SGS. Tab is cleaner (no TW), thus didnt require so much TW porting (and all apps developed for Tab are with 2.2 in mind).
Thats one side, because core system aint close to perfect too.
I see. But the tab has TW 3.0 as well from what I've read in this forum. Your other point however, makes a lot of sense..
Hello,
I joined the xda community about a year ago, first with my Htc Magic, then with my HD2. I have the opportunity to get a Samsung Galaxy Tab from some carrier for little extra money of my current Internet plan. And for 10 €/month more, I could get the new 10.1 version...
Although I do know that logically I should choose the 10.1, I still consider the 7'. Why ? Well, it would be cheaper at first. Then, I like the 7' size more and I'm not sure I would need Dual-Core processor for Internet surfing ! Also, the 10' model's phone app is blocked by the carrier, while it's not for the 7'...
But I digress !
Before to sign up to the plan, I'd like to take the pulse of the community. It's something I always do prior to purchasing a new device. I'm use to the HD2 orgy of Roms and OS and I must say that the less-furnished Development section for the Tab leaves me thinking. I don't doubt of the quaility of the ROMS but I wonder if devs are not already leaving the Tab's development for more recent Tablets and devices.
So...If you are a serial flasher like me, is the Tab a good invesmet ? I'd love to flash later CyanogenMod releases when there will be actual Tablet versions of it (for the moment, CM7 on a tablet is still in its early months) and of course Honeycomb or even better, Ice Cream Sandwhich. Will there be dev's at that moment ? Of course, I know it's not an easy question to answer but it's more about the community strengh until today actually...
Thanks and see you soon hopefully !
cm7 + tablet tweaks = win.
with roms, ill take quality over quantity, even tho there are only 3 2.3 roms, they are all badass.
the tab7 has been the best tech device ive ever owned, i have an ipad but it lives in the draw, its just way to big todo anything with other than using it in bed or on the toilet.
I suggest get the 7inch or wait for the new 7inch (who knows when that will come)
the only negative i have is that theres so many new devices out with dual core ect... but so far it hasnt stopped me from doing anything that these newer devices can do (you can play tegra games via chainfire) but eventually it will become an issue i guess.
The carrier matters.
More dev work is being done for the GSM variants at the moment. But spacemoose1 does have an alpha hc rom and dev continues in that.
Thank you for your anwser and I do agree about quality over quantity...
I'm aware of tablet tweaks from CM7, I already used them on my 4'3 HD2 screen but that not much in comparison of the many tweaks TouchWiz seems to bring to the Android 2.2 UI. Of course, overlay means slower device but oh well...
Is it possible to easily save/back up the stock Android Rom it will be shipped with in order to restore if I need to return it under warranty ?
Thanks !
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Thank you for your anwser and I do agree about quality over quantity...
I'm aware of tablet tweaks from CM7, I already used them on my 4'3 HD2 screen but that not much in comparison of the many tweaks TouchWiz seems to bring to the Android 2.2 UI. Of course, overlay means slower device but oh well...
Is it possible to easily save/back up the stock Android Rom it will be shipped with in order to restore if I need to return it under warranty ?
Thanks !
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Yeh, you can do a nandroid backup, or just find your stock firmware, from the website sam-firmware (i think thats it) or just brick it
Hi!
I'd like to know if it's reasonable to get a Note as developer phone for the next two years. (I'm noob to android, not to programming in general.)
I will need a more or less up to date android version. My (pessimistic) guess is that Samsung will upgrade the Note to JB and thats about it. There are some good roms out now and i wonder how the situation will be in one or two years. (Ver. 5.0?) Will the development community pick up where Samsung stops and continue to support the Note or will developers move on to newer phones?
Maybe someone can give me any insight on how much work is needed (was needed for ics) to port a new (minor/major) android version to a device or existing rom? (Anything between 1guy/1week and 4guys/4weeks?)
I know the usual answer is "get a Nexus" but I really like the big screen, thats why i have to ask.
Good to hear that one more person is coming into development of the GNote. Most Welcome. We are already hearing about the Chinese Jelly Bean leaks for Galaxy Note,then android keeps updating. But no matter what, we will have the devices and the development will move on. Hoping to see you soon.
I dont expect note to become developer device, better get a nexus for that
the nexus series are the first to be upgraded and build for developers
nothing beats the note in terms of screen thought
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I wouldnt expect this to have long term development either..Its the only negative I have about the phone but Im happy enough..
I'll be honest though I am pretty sure I'll get the next Nexus simply because development cant be beat that route.
as with all android devices the main dev base will always move on to newer devices when they upgrade, however im sure there will be for a good few years people sticking with the note after all main are locked into a contract or simply havnt the funds to buy a new devices when its released.
I for one will have my note for another 18 months or so, and look forward to using it solidly for deving, i have found it a great platform for app work/running linux/ROM development.
Of cause we dont know what the next big update of android will bring, it may mean that the note no longer has the power to run it etc but thats unlikely for some time (after all even the g1 'can' run ICS).
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I'd like to know if it's reasonable to get a Note as developer phone for the next two years. (I'm noob to android, not to programming in general.)
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If you want a developer phone, you really shouldn't consider anything other than a Nexus.
Whilst the Galaxy Nexus isn't exactly top drawer these days, it's still very good, and both it and the Nexus S will see Jelly Bean. Whilst I expect support for the Nexus S to drop off after Jelly Bean, the Galaxy Nexus should be good for at least the version after JB.
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Dave
Hi all,
I have a one year old Galaxy S5830 I purchased in China. I purchased it mainly for my travels so I can use different local SIMs whenever I travel to a different country. So far it is brilliant. But it is getting slow whenever I try to install new updates for apps. There's also junk Chinese sw that came with the original phone I can't seem to get rid of. I use this phone mainly because my Verizon S3 is not jail broken (<-right saying?).
I'd like to rebuild my S5830 with the latest Android but not sure if jelly bean would be a working version for it. Is that a good idea? Or should I just leave it as it is? I thought I'd experiment a bit on my S5830 before I try to root the S3.
Hope the community can give me some great suggestions.
Thank you,
Jane
You can always try cm7 roms, there are plenty of them all over the forums, and they are the only ones which are more or less as stable as a gb rom.
There is no "Jail" forced by Google to break from (android is open source ).
You "root" your device (jailbreak = root, jailbroken = rooted), to allow apps to access system files. Nothing more, nothing less.