Ok, I understand that we should have backups with clockworkmod and/or titanium to avoid these issues.
However, what happens if I don't have a backup of an app that I've paid for and somehow lose it?
Does the market recognize that I purchased the app before and let me re-download? Do I have to re-purchase the app?
With itunes for example, if you don't have a backup of purchased music you have to jump through flaming hoops to get it back and you're still not guaranteed they will work with you.
How do this work for us?
Thanks,
Neudle
Short answer is yes if you downloaded from the Market and it's tied to your gmail account it will let you re-download it provided that it shows up in your Market at the time you want to download it.
That's the way it worked for me. When I flashed Vegan and did the market fix every app I had paid for in the past (even on my old phones) synced and downloaded. Even setcpu which wasn't even functional till this week.
FWIW I use the USB hookup to back up apk files to a computer, an external fixed disk or ZIP disks (a good use for all the old but functioning Iomega stuff around here). I do this even before installing a new app, just in case. If I have a need to do so, I just drag the folder contents back to the tablet. And with files on the computer, Carbonite also backs up the files which enables retrieval from any computer I may use when traveling. I put all bookmarks onto the Web space included with the ISP account. It makes a complete recovery or transfer to a new tablet just about as quick and easy as anything I could think of.
I use Titanium... Any app I d-load from the market or elsewhere I back up.
Even if I do not intend to use it in the future... Who knows, when time comes I might need it.
Do not rely on the publisher to keep the app on the Market. I have purchased a couple of apps that are no longer available to download on the market that aren't available anymore, Transformers G1 comes to mind. Best bet is to buy Titanium Backup and set it up for Dropbox syncing.
Thanks for the help
Thank you for the replies.
I've only purchased one app (dungeon defenders), all the others have been free and most have been downloaded for side-loading anyway.
After I got the system rebuilt I logged onto google and dungeon defenders showed up as purchased in the market.
I'll try to keep titanium up to date but still glad to know they honor the original purchase.
Thanks again,
Neudle
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I installed a few apps a while back and for some odd reason I backed them up and installed them from my SdCard using Astro. Dont worry people at the time they where free. Now one of the apps has gone paid and the other has started adding bloat that I don't want because its way more than I want.
Now all of the sudden those two apps are showing up in the market as updates available. Its not a life and death thing, but I know some how I'm going to end up clicking on them when I don't want to. For the longest time they did not and I was happy as heck. Playing around and finally getting the "G1" version of the Facebook 1.1.2 app installed they now are showing up. One is asking for money for a newer version and the other is offering a ton of bloat that I simply do not want.
Is there any way around this?
I'm guessing I could delete the market database, but what cracks me up is I didn't install them via the market database anyways so why would it show up now all of the sudden?
I have been playing around with trying to make a Titanium backup of my phone's apps and data that can easily be moved over to the g tablet. I currently have been
making the backup
swapping the sd card
copying files from sdcard2/TitaniumBackup to sdcard/TitaniumBackup then batch restoring the apps and files.
I will play around to see if this process could be easier, possibly automated.
I'll keep you posted.
Anyone else working on this or have any alternative solution?
Check out the Titanium Backup sync to Dropbox feature, you might be able to configure it in a way that would accomplish your goal.
I have set up dropbox sync, but uploading/downloading takes quite some time. I started another thread about how I would like to be able to connect my DX to the G tablet via usb. If I could get that to work transfering files would be faster and I wouldn't have to swap sdcards all the time.
I just found a post about using an app called aFileSync. http://www.androidzoom.com/android_applications/tools/afilesync_nxn.html I'll try to play around with it and see if it works. If I can get it to work well, I will write up a FAQ.
I just would really like to be able to keep all my app settings/savestates/etc from my phone and my tablet.
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If I could get that to work transfering files would be faster and I wouldn't have to swap sdcards all the time.
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FTP works well over a good wifi connection...that is what I use for transfers to / from PC
Astro also has a SMB module that I use when I want to access files on network shares
Update:
I have got my data to go across both my DX and Gtablet.
I made a label for all the apps (mostly games) that I want to backup. Backup on titanium. Sync to dropbox. On the other device I open dropbox, download the titanium files, move the files into my /sdcard/TitaniumBackup, open titanium and restore. It takes less than a minute to complete.
It isn't automated like I would have originally hoped, but at least it works!
In the last week, I've flashed my HD7 twice. The first time to install an updated O2 ROM, the second time to install an unbranded Euro ROM via Gold Card.
Something I've noticed both times after flashing the phone and setting up my accounts again, is that after a while, the app list contains apps I've previously installed and removed (Seesmic, Bubblegum, Flickr).
Does Zune back these up? If so why hasn't it got a more recent copy of my apps? Where are these zombie apps coming from?
Thanks in advance for any insight.
Shadowise
Zune doesn't back these up. The phone automatically queues up applications that you have purchased and downloaded, and after a while (or after you sync with your desktop computer), downloads the application from the Marketplace. This includes ones you have uninstalled previously.
And what Zombie apps are you referring to? Did you download them before?
I do notice that sometimes it doesn't automatically download all the apps I use. At times, it just kinda randomly chooses a bunch of apps I've bought/downloaded and then just doesn't install the rest. Sometimes even trial games I've tried. So i'm not sure what makes our phones choose something over the other.
Seems like the feature is broke, the history of your purchased and trial apps are located under setting\account\purchase history\apps in the Zune software
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And what Zombie apps are you referring to? Did you download them before?
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When I said zombie, I just meant they were coming back from the dead
Hopefully Zune will get an upgrade in the future to take proper backups.
This is normal behaviour for all apps which you purchased using the Zune software on your PC, if you purchase your apps via the phone this won't happen.
Am new to Android two weeks ago. I had to have my new SGS replaced and thought that all the phone settings and apps were being synced with my google account (I've always had Background Data and Auto-sync checked on as well as my google accounts set to sync on for Gmail, Contacts and Calendar). Having powered on the new replacement and entered my google account settings I was expecting it to recognise that the new device was not in sync with google and offer to push everything back down to the phone.
All that has happened is my Contacts, Gmail and Calendar are in sync but the phone settings & previously installed apps through the market place are not.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and look at one of the previous apps I had installed such as BBC iPlayer it shows my rating and comment so it knows its me but only offers the option to reinstall the app again from the market, i.e. finding each app manually and reinstalling. Is it not supposed to restore the apps you have previously installed? I reinstalled this app from the market but it hasn't restored the user data associated with the app.
Having dug a little further whilst writing this, I notice that if I log into the Android Market through a web browser on the PC I can see in the "Orders" screen the apps that I previously downloaded. However, on the next tab "Settings" shows My Devices with the old and new phone listed. There doesn't seem to be a way to remove the old phone from my account or tell it that the new phone actually replaces the old so just give me the old data to the new device.
Being new to Android I did think that this was meant to work slicker than this, I hope someone can help out a newbie please?
If you go into the Market and look at My Apps, you should be able to redownload them all (I think an option exists to download them all with a single click "update all" or something like that). Most people backup their applications etc using Tatanium Backup so that they easily restore user apps after ROM upgrades etc. You can also backup SMS messages using an app from the Market.
When you first enter a new Google account into your phone, there is a check box to restore your apps from the Market. This actually is usually best NOT to use since it can cause a sudden massive download.
It is in all ways safer and smarter to just go into MyApps and reinstall the apps one by one. It may take a little longer, but it is a better method.
Titanium Backup is a good option for restoring apps after you flash a new rom, but it won't do you any good if you change phones.
Unfortunately that isn't the case.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and "My Apps" I don't see the apps that were installed on the old phone and thus no option from My Apps to reinstall them.
The only apps that are present in My Apps are those that were I guess added by Three's flavour of this 2.2 OS, which are the Three app plus Google Maps and YouTube.
Their seems to be something wrong with market place if it is meant to work how your suggesting. If I log into market place through my PC that google account sees both the old and new phone but doesn't on the phone offer the old apps to the new phone.
I'm pretty sure that when I entered my google account details earlier that there was no option box to restore as I would have taken that option as I have an unlimited data plan.
I wonder if I should do a factory reset and re enter the account details again but I fear that it will just see this new phone in the market place and not the old one as they obviously have some sort of device id.
Unfortunately it looks like Titanium is just for rooted devices and am not ready to go down that route (no pun intended) just yet.
If the apps and app data are suppose to sync with google then it seems like an unnecessary duplication of work to redo something outside of what should be part of Android natively.
If I have to install a backup app then I would want to find one that backs up all the phone settings, apps and app data to the SD card which I can then move over to the PC where there is obviously more storage. It would be nice to find such an app that provides a selective restore so that it would also be compatible with a new different model phone so that only the apps and app data could be restored.
I just got my HTC One today, transferring from the Evo 3D. I've only played with this app briefly before, but finally putting it through it's paces right now and it's working perfectly!
Carbon Backup and Sync - get it!
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.koushikdutta.backup&hl=en
This isn't exactly new and I'm sure many of you have already used this, but this post is for those who don't know.
Under the Restore and Sync settings, it saw all of my devices with the app installed, I choose one, select the apps to transfer to my other device, and sit back. I have to confirm it brings the app data with, but it does allow for app data to be backed up so I would assume it does.
This app does not require root, lets you backup your device for free to internal storage, dropbox, box, or google drive. The paid version lets you sync across devices. That is worth every penny.
And please don't turn this into a "____ is better" thread. I'm sure there are plenty of options available, this one worked for me and might for others.
Edit: yup, syncing apps between devices included app data and no root necessary.