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[How do you] Keep updates from showing

I installed a few apps a while back and for some odd reason I backed them up and installed them from my SdCard using Astro. Dont worry people at the time they where free. Now one of the apps has gone paid and the other has started adding bloat that I don't want because its way more than I want.
Now all of the sudden those two apps are showing up in the market as updates available. Its not a life and death thing, but I know some how I'm going to end up clicking on them when I don't want to. For the longest time they did not and I was happy as heck. Playing around and finally getting the "G1" version of the Facebook 1.1.2 app installed they now are showing up. One is asking for money for a newer version and the other is offering a ton of bloat that I simply do not want.
Is there any way around this?
I'm guessing I could delete the market database, but what cracks me up is I didn't install them via the market database anyways so why would it show up now all of the sudden?

Help all apps lost

Recently I have not been able to connect to 3G(HSDPA) and I tried rebooting a few times without luck. (Stock N1 2.1 -> 2.2 Froyo RC)
So, I did a factory reset. Before you go "moron thats why you are missing all your apps!", I watched in Google IO a person saying "if you have ever upgraded your android phone, you know there is no need to re-download all your apps, because the data is all in our server"
And, in the (supposedly not public) Android Market Website accessed from a PC, you can login and see all the android devices you have and all the apps you have installed in each.
So after reading the warning messages, I went ahead and reset it. After logging back onto my google account, guess what? All my apps are gone.
At first, I was okay with it, I have way too many useless stuffs anyway. Then I went to Market, wondering if I can view my "downloads" list, to my surprise my download list is empty except showing one app i purchased and 3 "default" apps that already came installed in Froyo.
I went back to Settings>Privacy>
and I see these two options:
Backup my settings
Automatic Restore (Restore applications' data from backup when they are installed)
I mean, am I misunderstanding something or missing some info here? I thought from my understanding, if say I buy a brand new Nexus One, and log onto my account, the least I should be able to do is log onto market and see what have i previously downloaded on my OLD DEVICE, right?
I have re-downloaded all the apps I need, I just wanna know if this feature (as the way I understand it) exists.
Thanks guys.

that auto download of apps thing from Google IO is supposed to be a Gingerbread feature for android 3.0

lol i surely missed the "Gingerbread" note and i feel like a complete idiot now
nevertheless, thank you so much for the reply, at least we know it will come !

Actually you're both wrong. The saved downloads list has been a feature since 1.6, it just never works correctly. Usually saving only purchased apps and a few free ones. The auto-restore is a Froyo feature and worked almost perfectly for me when I upgraded [it installed all the ones it remembered but because of the aforementioned bugginess of the save list, I had to restore about 20% manually with Titanium Backup]. The other new feature that was announced at I/O was data restore. This too is a Froyo feature, but like apps to SD, it is an API which must be implemented by the individual app developers. The data restore feature is fully functional in the OS right now, it just has nothing to restore because it needs the apps to tell it what to save. Within a couple weeks of the official Froyo rollout I think you can expect to see most active developers implement the 2.2 APIs in their apps.

[Q] What happens if you lose an app?

Ok, I understand that we should have backups with clockworkmod and/or titanium to avoid these issues.
However, what happens if I don't have a backup of an app that I've paid for and somehow lose it?
Does the market recognize that I purchased the app before and let me re-download? Do I have to re-purchase the app?
With itunes for example, if you don't have a backup of purchased music you have to jump through flaming hoops to get it back and you're still not guaranteed they will work with you.
How do this work for us?
Thanks,
Neudle

Short answer is yes if you downloaded from the Market and it's tied to your gmail account it will let you re-download it provided that it shows up in your Market at the time you want to download it.

That's the way it worked for me. When I flashed Vegan and did the market fix every app I had paid for in the past (even on my old phones) synced and downloaded. Even setcpu which wasn't even functional till this week.

FWIW I use the USB hookup to back up apk files to a computer, an external fixed disk or ZIP disks (a good use for all the old but functioning Iomega stuff around here). I do this even before installing a new app, just in case. If I have a need to do so, I just drag the folder contents back to the tablet. And with files on the computer, Carbonite also backs up the files which enables retrieval from any computer I may use when traveling. I put all bookmarks onto the Web space included with the ISP account. It makes a complete recovery or transfer to a new tablet just about as quick and easy as anything I could think of.

I use Titanium... Any app I d-load from the market or elsewhere I back up.
Even if I do not intend to use it in the future... Who knows, when time comes I might need it.

Do not rely on the publisher to keep the app on the Market. I have purchased a couple of apps that are no longer available to download on the market that aren't available anymore, Transformers G1 comes to mind. Best bet is to buy Titanium Backup and set it up for Dropbox syncing.

Thanks for the help
Thank you for the replies.
I've only purchased one app (dungeon defenders), all the others have been free and most have been downloaded for side-loading anyway.
After I got the system rebuilt I logged onto google and dungeon defenders showed up as purchased in the market.
I'll try to keep titanium up to date but still glad to know they honor the original purchase.
Thanks again,
Neudle

[Q] restore help please..

Am new to Android two weeks ago. I had to have my new SGS replaced and thought that all the phone settings and apps were being synced with my google account (I've always had Background Data and Auto-sync checked on as well as my google accounts set to sync on for Gmail, Contacts and Calendar). Having powered on the new replacement and entered my google account settings I was expecting it to recognise that the new device was not in sync with google and offer to push everything back down to the phone.
All that has happened is my Contacts, Gmail and Calendar are in sync but the phone settings & previously installed apps through the market place are not.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and look at one of the previous apps I had installed such as BBC iPlayer it shows my rating and comment so it knows its me but only offers the option to reinstall the app again from the market, i.e. finding each app manually and reinstalling. Is it not supposed to restore the apps you have previously installed? I reinstalled this app from the market but it hasn't restored the user data associated with the app.
Having dug a little further whilst writing this, I notice that if I log into the Android Market through a web browser on the PC I can see in the "Orders" screen the apps that I previously downloaded. However, on the next tab "Settings" shows My Devices with the old and new phone listed. There doesn't seem to be a way to remove the old phone from my account or tell it that the new phone actually replaces the old so just give me the old data to the new device.
Being new to Android I did think that this was meant to work slicker than this, I hope someone can help out a newbie please?

If you go into the Market and look at My Apps, you should be able to redownload them all (I think an option exists to download them all with a single click "update all" or something like that). Most people backup their applications etc using Tatanium Backup so that they easily restore user apps after ROM upgrades etc. You can also backup SMS messages using an app from the Market.

When you first enter a new Google account into your phone, there is a check box to restore your apps from the Market. This actually is usually best NOT to use since it can cause a sudden massive download.
It is in all ways safer and smarter to just go into MyApps and reinstall the apps one by one. It may take a little longer, but it is a better method.
Titanium Backup is a good option for restoring apps after you flash a new rom, but it won't do you any good if you change phones.

Unfortunately that isn't the case.
If I go into the Android Market Place on the phone and "My Apps" I don't see the apps that were installed on the old phone and thus no option from My Apps to reinstall them.
The only apps that are present in My Apps are those that were I guess added by Three's flavour of this 2.2 OS, which are the Three app plus Google Maps and YouTube.
Their seems to be something wrong with market place if it is meant to work how your suggesting. If I log into market place through my PC that google account sees both the old and new phone but doesn't on the phone offer the old apps to the new phone.
I'm pretty sure that when I entered my google account details earlier that there was no option box to restore as I would have taken that option as I have an unlimited data plan.
I wonder if I should do a factory reset and re enter the account details again but I fear that it will just see this new phone in the market place and not the old one as they obviously have some sort of device id.
Unfortunately it looks like Titanium is just for rooted devices and am not ready to go down that route (no pun intended) just yet.
If the apps and app data are suppose to sync with google then it seems like an unnecessary duplication of work to redo something outside of what should be part of Android natively.
If I have to install a backup app then I would want to find one that backs up all the phone settings, apps and app data to the SD card which I can then move over to the PC where there is obviously more storage. It would be nice to find such an app that provides a selective restore so that it would also be compatible with a new different model phone so that only the apps and app data could be restored.

[Q] Backup Data for Updates

Okay I apologize beforehand if this has been answered somewhere else in the forums. I don't have much time to look around on the forums like I used to.
I have an HTC HD7 and I like to keep my phone up to date and whatnot, but I've been reluctant to because of all the data I lose when I do the updates. Things like contacts aren't an issue, but the Zune Marketplace doesn't reinstall your apps like the Android Marketplace did. As well as loosing all of my apps, my music is gone as well. Which with my very large music library, it gets to be a huge hassle to pick out the music I want on my HD7 each time a new update comes out, whereas with Android It was all stored on my SD card and nothing was lost, the same issue for my pictures. Also I've read a bit on XBMod's cab sender, and it seems like none of the developers seem to use it, that or they're having problems with it.
So, with that said, I was wondering if there were any apps or workarounds to back up my apps/music/pictures on my phone and restore them post update.
Any sort of help or direction is greatly appreciated.

If you update officially, via Zune, then everything is retained. It is only if you go down the route of Hard/Soft SPL'ing and using custom made ROM's that you have that issue. It is also probably fair to say, that if restoring everything post update is a pain/bothers you, then perhaps following the route of Customs ROM's and multiple, quick updates is not for you?

I know that, and the hd7 isn't exactly my first rodeo, I started with my touch pro 2 and got addicted and developed ORD xD. Since then ive had an HTC aria, and a dual boot hd2. Now with my HD7 I still share the passion, ive just noticed that it's a bit more of a hassle because of the way the OS works. I will continue to update either way, but I was searching for an alternative route to post flash restoration. Its mostly the music that I wish I could keep, because as I stated I have a HUGE collection.

I hear yeah I wish more rom cookers would issue update cabs as well as a fresh install nbh file. I've mentioned it in dotcompt deepshining rom thread since he has the xbox/yuki certa cooked in. That way nothing is lost, it updates just what need to be just like Zune does.
On the other hand there is a program that backs up 3rd party apps but that's only for like save data and ****. You would have to install the app first... For instance angry birds progress. That way you don't have to do it all over...
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Yeah, that would make things simpler. Lol and i saw that, but it wasn't what im looking for. I really just want a way to easily reinstall my apps, and music without having to find them all or going through my collection every time. Cause out of the whole process, if you use your phone as your mp3 player like i do then you'll end up spending a lot of time doing the same thing.

you can put the music of your choice in the Music Folder (Windows 7) and check sync all items in Zune. In this way you wont have to prepare the music collection time and again.
I use this method for retaining my music, videos and pictures. I have prepared a list of apps I always use and it takes my 20-30 minutes to download and install, but its worth the fun
Hope this helps.

That would work, but I use Zune as my primary music player. So all of my collection shows there. I was considering copying just the music I want to my laptop and using that as my "dock" for my windows phone. But I was just wanting to see what other options I had before I went to that.

I have pretty much the same issues... Me and my girl both have hd7's. Both use them for mp3 players in the cars...
I've tried making two folders and just changing th sync folder but for some reason Zune doesn't seem to recognize it that quick. Haven't figured out why but even after restarting Zune sync folder doesn't change even though settings did...
Wish Zune had options to sync two or more different devices or at least direct drag and drop from windows explorer to little phone icon at bottom of Zune.
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The solution I use for quickly picking and re-syncing the music after a flash is to build a playlist in Zune specifically for the music I want to keep on the phone. Then only sync that playlist. Gets trickier for podcasts and if you download directly to the phone from Zune and "backsync" it though