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Google Voice as your VM.

Just recently started using GV for my voicemails (TMO)
Loved it...
My problem is that I only use my GV number for specific functions/people.
If I missed an incoming call it was easy to tell if the person was calling my cel or my GV. But with GV as my VM service I cant differentiate.
All my calls now appear in the GV app. Is there anyway to figure out which number the person is trying to reach while still using GV as my VM ?

No, and why should it? As long as they're contacting you, why does it matter which number they're dialing?
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What you cold do (just speculation) is have a forwarding app that separates via contacts, if XYZ contact calls you then it conditional forwards it to your GV voicemail other wise if ABC contact calls then it routes you to your default VM. Im not sure there is an app to do this but i cant imainge there not being a call forwarding app.

XSafire said:
No, and why should it? As long as they're contacting you, why does it matter which number they're dialing?
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Then why have 2 numbers since theyre just dialing me anyways ?
Some people I will pick up for others I will send to VM. Id like to know who the new number is trying to reach my "work" persona or my "home" persona.
Ill look into call forwarding.
This would be moot if Tmo visual voicemail worked over wifi or GV had the same bubble for incoming as it does for outgoing.

Use your tablet as a phone. Calls? Texts? No problem!

Toktumi has finally released their Line2 app for android. I've been using it for a couple of months with my iPod touch 4G and love it. I tried it with the G tablet and it fully works. You pay a monthly fee and you get a phone number with unlimited calls and text in the US and Canada I think. Yes you can make and recieve calls and texts using your tablet! Go check it out they offer a 30 day free trial.
http://line2.com/download_android.html
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Does not show up on Market. Where else can we find the .apk?
Thanks

I think that it's "tOktumi" (http://toktumi.com/)?
Jim

I'm going to check this out

Many of us would like to check it out, but is it showing up in Market for anyone? If so, can someone post it somewhere (free apk)
Thanks

what is the diff between this and google voice?

Google voice lets you send and receive text using your tablet. However, when somebody calls your Google voice number the call gets automatically redirected to the phone number(s) you linked GV to. Line2 gives you a unique telephone number so when somebody texts or calls you, your tablet gets the actual call. Line2 also lets you forward calls to any number but you have to manually set it up in the app preferences.
PM me if you have any other questions.

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Google voice lets you send and receive text using your tablet. However, when somebody calls your Google voice number the call gets automatically redirected to the phone number(s) you linked GV to. Line2 gives you a unique telephone number so when somebody texts or calls you, your tablet gets the actual call. Line2 also lets you forward calls to any number but you have to manually set it up in the app preferences.
PM me if you have any other questions.
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Pretty cool will have to try it out.

I downloaded apk with phone and sideloaded onto tablet

marianosf said:
Google voice lets you send and receive text using your tablet. However, when somebody calls your Google voice number the call gets automatically redirected to the phone number(s) you linked GV to. Line2 gives you a unique telephone number so when somebody texts or calls you, your tablet gets the actual call. Line2 also lets you forward calls to any number but you have to manually set it up in the app preferences.
PM me if you have any other questions.
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Really, if i dial my wifes GV number, her gtab rings .. running sipdroid

aaron19953 said:
Really, if i dial my wifes GV number, her gtab rings .. running sipdroid
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Can you please help us how to setup this using sipdroid and gv only? I have found places which uses sipsorcery, sipdroid, pbxex and ipkall.
How is your setup?

rob_z11 said:
Can you please help us how to setup this using sipdroid and gv only? I have found places which uses sipsorcery, sipdroid, pbxex and ipkall.
How is your setup?
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I'd like to know this also!
Jim

rob_z11 said:
Can you please help us how to setup this using sipdroid and gv only? I have found places which uses sipsorcery, sipdroid, pbxex and ipkall.
How is your setup?
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oh yeah, i forgot about that.. I'm using sipsorcery, sipgate, google voice, and sipdroid.. I don't think sipsorcery allowing new accounts now though..
I basically used these instructions..
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ae8glDUXDsh9ZGR2eG43cjRfMzNkOTM4ZjNjeA&hl=en

aaron19953 said:
oh yeah, i forgot about that.. I'm using sipsorcery, sipgate, google voice, and sipdroid.. I don't think sipsorcery allowing new accounts now though..
I basically used these instructions..
https://docs.google.com/Doc?docid=0Ae8glDUXDsh9ZGR2eG43cjRfMzNkOTM4ZjNjeA&hl=en
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Thanks. That is what I thought you must be using it. Sipsorcery is closed for new registration. I can use gtalk to call out and incoming call to my Google number.

Sipdroid works great..... I finally can make phone calls on my gtab...sweeeeeet. Just link it to your google acct. And your done. Thanks guys!

vurnt said:
Sipdroid works great..... I finally can make phone calls on my gtab...sweeeeeet. Just link it to your google acct. And your done. Thanks guys!
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Hi,
I just installed sipdroid, and it created a pbxes.org acct, and I can call out, but called party can hear me, but I can't hear them. Any ideas how to fix this?
Also on the sipdroid website, it has screenshots, showing a dialpad, but I only get 2 text boxes, for # to call, and 'called address'?
Pressing on the icon on upper right, I get an FC.
Jim

jimcpl said:
Hi,
I just installed sipdroid, and it created a pbxes.org acct, and I can call out, but called party can hear me, but I can't hear them. Any ideas how to fix this?
Also on the sipdroid website, it has screenshots, showing a dialpad, but I only get 2 text boxes, for # to call, and 'called address'?
Pressing on the icon on upper right, I get an FC.
Jim
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Answering my 1st question, after establishing a call, I press menu, then 'speakers', and then I can hear.
Also tried w Bluetooth headset, and that worked.
Still no keypad though.
Jim

jimcpl said:
Answering my 1st question, after establishing a call, I press menu, then 'speakers', and then I can hear.
Also tried w Bluetooth headset, and that worked.
Still no keypad though.
Jim
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Fyi, I just figured out how to get incoming call working also. What I had to do was go to Google.com/voice, login, and under settings>>phones check the Google chat checkbox. After that incoming calls to my Google voice # come to sipdroid on my gtab. So now I can do both incoming and outgoing calls with sipdroid!
Jim

jimcpl said:
Fyi, I just figured out how to get incoming call working also. What I had to do was go to Google.com/voice, login, and under settings>>phones check the Google chat checkbox. After that incoming calls to my Google voice # come to sipdroid on my gtab. So now I can do both incoming and outgoing calls with sipdroid!
Jim
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I am trying Bluetooth headset without any luck. Mine is pairing, but not connecting. Any help will be great.

rob_z11 said:
I am trying Bluetooth headset without any luck. Mine is pairing, but not connecting. Any help will be great.
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That seems like a separate problem (BT headset connecting), so you might be better off posting a question about that separately, probably in the General forum. I think I've seen some threads about BT connecting there, so you may want to search there 1st. I'm on stock TNT still, but maybe it may depend on which firmware you have also.
Jim

[GUIDE] Free VOIP calls w/ iLBC codec

UPDATE: This may not work any more because Google said that they will cut off the Google Talk XMPP on 5/15/2014, which PBXES relies on.
This guide is not about how to make free calls. It's about how to make free calls using iLBC codec so that you can make reliable calls over 3g connection. If you only want the instructions, then skip to part V.
(edited) I have changed my VoIP set up to PIAF on AWS EC2. See my signature.
I. BACKGROUND
There are several known methods to make free VoIP (internet) calls over 3g. I'll briefly discuss each to explain why there's no perfect solution. I'm not claiming my solution is perfect, either. You have to try them out and find out yourself what works for you.
1. Groove IP app
codec: PCMU (aka G711u, uncompressed signal used by PSTN and Google Voice, only good for fast/reliable wifi connection)
pros: simple setup, works well on wifi. If you use VoIP only on wifi, this is for you.
cons: echo. The voice quality is terrible on mobile data (3g) connection.
2. talkatone app
codec: speex for standard quality
pros: easy setup, good quality on 3g using speex .
cons: doesn't integrate well with android
3. Vonage mobile app
codec: G729(?) when making regular calls. iSAC when calling a Vonage member.
pros: G729 provides an excellent quality even on 3g.
cons: can't receive calls and doesn't integrate with Android. You need to input 10 digit number to make a call, unless the number is in your contacts.
4. Google Voice/pbxes/sipdroid (http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1791957)
codec: lots of options based on connection type
pros: excellent battery life (http://code.google.com/p/sipdroid/wiki/NewStandbyTechnique), If you choose speex codec for 3g, then call quality is pretty good on 3g.
cons: must unlock the screen before answering the call. doesn't support better codecs such as iLBC/G729.
5. simonics GV gateway https://simonics.com/gvgw/ + sip client of your choice
codec: PCMU
pros: simpler setup than pbxes, some ppl claim it's more reliable.
cons: limited codec support. no multiple registrations
6. Setting up your own asterisk server (http://enjoytechnology.info/)
pros: everything is configurable
cons: requires a 24/7 running server
I have been primarily using #4 setup but wasn't satisfied with the call quality on 3g so I was about to do #6. But I found a way to tweak #4 to use iLBC codec and greatly improved the call quality on 3g.
II. CODEC COMPARISONS
The call quality basically depends on (1) the codec that your phone uses and (2) the network throughput. Unfortunately, there's no perfect solution because of trade-offs.
PCMU (64kbps) is the uncompressed signal that is transmitted at PSTN. So it will give you the best quality as long as your network throughput supports it. This is the preferred codec for wifi connection. However, 3g network cannot consistently sustain 64kbps and will suffer from packet loss resulting in jitter. This explains why Groove IP works best on wifi but not over 3g.
At the other end of the spectrum is GSM codec (8kbps). It's designed in 1990 for wireless communication over 2g. It's the most compressed signal, which is used by your regular GSM providers (AT&T, Tmo). These wireless providers allocate sufficient capacity on voice calls so your voice calls will suffer little jitter. However, the call quality is inferior to PCMU codec.
There are many codecs in between. For example, Sipdroid and talktatone can use speex, which requires low bandwidth. These apps can send the same signal twice to compensate for packet loss.
The 2 codecs that haven't been used widely in commercial apps are G729 and iLBC. These 2 codecs require low bandwidth (<15kbps) but have algorithm to interpolate loss packets. It is suggested these 2 codecs are ideal codec for 3g connection. Here are some readings comparing G729 vs iLBC.
http://blogs.elastix.org/en/2009/11/...cs-in-elastix/
http://forums.whirlpool.net.au/archive/1413041
In short, both are excellent codecs for 3g. iLBC has a better quality but requires more CPU power, which Nexus 4 can easily handle. My setup relies on iLBC.
III. SETUP
My setup is an extension to #4 method above. It involves 4 free resources.
1. Google Voice (same phone number for in/out calls and free outbound calls using gtalk)
2. callcentric (VoIP provider for free inbound calls)
3. pbxes (PBX that manages in/out calls)
4. csipsimple (android VOIP app that supports iLBC)
Once set up properly, here's how the incoming and outgoing calls will work.
1. Incoming GV calls
Someone calls your GV number. GV forwards the call to callcentric. Pbxes intercepts the call and rings your phone. Your phone displays caller ID (CID) properly.
2. Outgoing GV calls
You place a call in your phone dialer. Pbxes calls the number using gtalk trunk. The recipient will see your GV number as CID.
IV. BENEFITS
What are the benefits of my setup?
1. Completely free in/out calls. You don't even give out any CC information. All I'm paying is 30/m for Tmobile's 100 min, unlimited data prepaid plan.
2. Excellent call quality even on 3g using iLBC codec. I often get better call quality than Tmo's GSM.
3. Keeping the same number for in/out calls.
4. Full Android integration.
5. Battery life. Only requires 1 SIP registration to pbxes using TCP port. Battery stat screenshots after 10 hours are attached here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35889479&postcount=91
V. INSTRUCTIONS
Are you still with me? Then follow these steps.
#1. Get a fast phone that can handle iLBC codec. FYI, a 2-yr old Galaxy S has the sufficient CPU power for iLBC.
#2. Get an unlimited fast data plan such as Tmobile's $30 prepaid plan. http://prepaid-phones.t-mobile.com/monthly-4g-plans
#3. Install and set up Google Voice app on your phone. Without GV, you can't open a free pbxes account in #4.
#4. Install Sipdroid to create a pbxes account.
When Sipdroid opens, it will detect whether you have GV app installed. If so, it will give you an option to open a free pbxes account linked with Google Voice. Create the pbxes account. In case Gmail flags for an attempted login, allow pbxes to gain access. Once you create the pbxes account, make test calls in and out using Sipdroid. Some ISPs may block you from using VoIP so make sure you can make calls before the next step. As of now, sipdroid doesn't support iLBC codec so we will be using other sip clients for making calls.
#5. Log in to pbxes.org and click "personal data".
Fill out all the blanks. Doesn't need to be correct. If you skip this step, pbxes has been known to remove the account later. While you are doing it, I recommend changing the pbxes login password that you used in step #4 to something else. In addition, pick a data center (server) closest to you to lower latency. If you have registration issues, change to a different server. FYI, I had registration issues with www7 (Miami) server.
#6. Open a free phone number (DID) account at callcentric.com.
You can only get a NY area code number but it doesn't matter because you will be giving out your GV number to your friends. All incoming calls to callcentric (including GV forwarded calls) will be free. You can decline E911 service to stay completely free. Callcentric supports efficient codecs such as G.729 and iLBC. We will be relying on iLBC. The outgoing calls are not free but we will be using GV to make free outbound calls.
Next, we have to link pbxes with callcentric so that pbxes can receive GV forwarded calls to callcentric. There are two ways to do this. (If you are wondering why we are using callcentric instead of gtalk, it's because pbxes has issues with iLBC for gtalk incoming calls. Callcentric handles iLBC better so we are piggybacking it.)
#7a. Callcentric call forwarding to pbxes.
Log in to callcentric.com. Go to preferences>DID forwarding. Input your [email protected] in the box and save. AFAIK, callcentric doesn't charge call forwarding to a SIP address (our method). However, it does to a regular phone number.
Alternatively,
#7b. Have pbxes intercept the calls to callcentric.
Log in to pbxes.org. Click add trunk, select SIP trunk and input callcentric credentials. (user name starts with your callcentric 1777 number.) Select "audio bypass" to pass-through callcentric's iLBC signal to the phone. See the attachment for what my setup looks like.
Here's a tutorial on adding trunks: http://www4.pbxes.com/wiki/index.php/Getting_Started
#8. Add extension(s) in pbxes.
Log in pbxes.org. Click extensions. If you followed step #4, you should see extension "Sipdroid-200." You can add new ones or modify extension 200. Change the password to something that you can easily remember. This will be the password you will use to register your phone to pbxes in the next step. Finally, select "audio bypass."
#9. Install nightly version csipsimple app from http://nightlies.csipsimple.com/trunk/. The play store version crashed with iLBC.
First, add the pbxes account. If you are new to VoIP, use the wizard for pbxes. User name should be yourgoogleID-200, where 200 is the extension you used in #8. The password is what you changed to in #8. (I recommended you change the password in #8 so that you don't use your gmail password everywhere.)
Do not add callcentric account because having 2 registrations drains battery faster. If you followed the steps above, you will still be able to receive callcentric calls from your pbxes account.
I prefer csipsimple because it is has lots of options to configure. But it can be too overwhelming to some people. If you can't get it to work, then try other sip clients such as media5-fone.
#10. Let's change csipsimple for better call quality.
First, in settings/media/codecs, select iLBC as the only codec for 3g connection. If you have a strong wifi connection, then select PCMU for wifi connection.
(optional) If you experience looping when making calls, set up filters appropriately. I set up mine such that all calls will be made by pbxes except for 911.
#11. Google Voice (from webpage)
Add callcentric DID number (not the 1777 number). All the GV forwarded calls to callcentric will be forwarded to pbxes and ring csipsimple on your phone.
Uncheck Google chat so that pbxes only receives callcentric forwarded calls. FYI, GV doesn't support iLBC codec natively.
(optional) uncheck Tmo mobile number, if you are completely satisfied with this setup. If GV is forwarding to your cell, then your cell will be ringing twice and you may accidentally answer the cell phone using your minutes.
#12. (optional) Test in/out calls.
I use these numbers to test the audio quality.
*43 (pbxes echo test)
(909) 390-0003 (PSTN echo test)
(408) 647-4636 (record/playback)
Note that during a call in csipsimple, you can click the settings button in the lower right corner to change the in/out volumes and enable/disable echo cancellation.
You should also test incoming call quality using Google Voice call back. This is where I had the most troubleshooting. My incoming call quality was awful until I found callcentric trick.
I have tested this setup in many different scenarios including in a car running at 45 mph and very happy with the results. Of course, YMMV depending on how good your 3g connection is.
VI. LIMITATIONS
What are the drawbacks?
1. latency (audio delay). iLBC codec makes CPU interpolate to make up for loss packets. This is why the call quality is better than other codecs over 3g. However, the disadvantage is it increases audio lag. I'm experiencing a 0.5s lag one way on 3g. This is not too bad considering a cell>GV>cell call has a similar latency (http://www.howardforums.com/showthread.php/1621673-Voice-Latency-Test-Results, couldn't find a more recent test result)
2. Once a caller calls your GV number, it takes 5-6 seconds for your phone to ring. This is a limitation of PSTN and GV forwarding not VOIP. On the other hand, if a caller calls my cell number directly, it rings in 4-5 seconds. So all the call routing through caller>Google Voice>callcentric>pbxes>phone will add 1 extra second for your phone to ring compared with caller>phone.
3. Pbxes with gtalk trunk will make your Google chat status show as "online and available" all the time. Your friends may think you are online when you are actually not. Another side effect is you won't be able to answer GV calls from PC gmail any more. I haven't found any workaround to fix this other than creating a new google voice account.
4. Nexus 4 VoIP issues. It has been reported that several hardware mic functions (echo/noise cancellation) are disabled for N4 VoIP. http://code.google.com/p/android/issues/detail?id=41626 OTOH, echo cancellation is enabled in Galaxy Nexus. You can mitigate the issue with adjusting the media settings in sip client. But if you are in a noisy area, the mic is going to pick up all the noise. Consider using the headset.
VII. TIPS/TRICKS
1. If your family/friends know how to internet call, then it's best to give out your SIP address; [email protected]. Then the call will go out fast and the phone quality will be the best because you are not using PSTN at all. If both caller and recipient are using the same pbxes server, then pbxes is the only node between the two. For example, when my wife with the same setup calls me @pbxes, my phone rings in less than 2 seconds and the call quality is the best.
2. Create multiple extensions (300, 400, etc) in pbxes.
I have 3 devices registered to pbxes simultaneously: my cell phone, my tablet and the ATA for my home POTS phone. When I receive a GV call, all 3 devices ring simultaneously. And I can call any other extension independently by entering its 3 digit extension number.
3. Try other sip clients
I suggested csipsimple because it's open source and free despite being an unstable nightly version. You should try out other apps because they may perform better for you. For example, when I use media5-fone (free w/ ads, $5 to remove ads), the audio latency improved but it consumed a little more battery.
4. Battery improvement
My Nexus 4 easily lasts 16 hours w/ 3+ hour screen time. There are several things you can do to improve battery life. Use TCP only in client to communicate with pbxes.org. If you use csipsimple, you need to change the account settings. First, use the wizard to switch to expert mode. Then you will see "transport" option in the account settings. Select TCP. Another thing you can do to improve battery life is to experiment with larger keep alive intervals.
5. Use a different gmail account for your GV number
If you are uncomfortable with giving out your gmail password (even the app specific one) to pbxes, then transfer your GV number to another gmail account. http://support.google.com/voice/bin/static.py?hl=en&ts=1378507&page=ts.cs The whole process took less than 30 minutes. Once done, you don't need to create a new pbxes account. Just log in pbxes.org, go to Trunk>Gtalk and make the necessary changes. If done properly, you can make calls out again instantly. If you are using GV app, then you need to add the new account.
6. Delayed GV call forwarding
You can set up pbxes such that it rings your cell phone if you don't answer the internet call in X seconds. See
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=36041116&postcount=196
VIII. Troubleshooting
1. This guide is definitely not simple. Lots of things can go wrong. If you want help, then provide as much information as possible. Posting a screenshot of pbxes call monitor log will be a good start.
2. If csipsimple doesn't work, try other sip clients such as media5-fone. If you can't make a call with media5 either, then you know at least it's not csip's fault.
3. If you suspect pbxes malfunctioning, change the datacenter (server) from pbxes.org.

Since you've done so much testing, maybe you could include some more information on how your setup works. Like, how many seconds does it ring? How about voicemail? Any issues if you enter/leave your home (i.e., wifi area) during a call, etc.

How about audio delay? Mine is noticeable using Google voice and the carrier.
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I would like to test this setup. Can you give more details and examples for steps 3-b and 3-c in creating the trunk and inbound routing on pbxes.org?
Thanks again for any help that you can provide!
plee3

I'm very untested in this as well. Why not just port my number to the $30/mn plan. Then use gv from my PC to make calls or from groveip on my N4?
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plee3 said:
I would like to test this setup. Can you give more details and examples for steps 3-b and 3-c in creating the trunk and inbound routing on pbxes.org?
Thanks again for any help that you can provide!
plee3
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If you have never changed settings in pbxes, then this guide may be helpful.
http://lucas719.info/function/free_phone
If I get a chance in the future, I might update the OP with more instructions for those who have never used pbxes before.
marty331 said:
I'm very untested in this as well. Why not just port my number to the $30/mn plan. Then use gv from my PC to make calls or from groveip on my N4?
Sent from my Nexus 7 using xda premium
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Because grooveIP uses PCMU and PCMA codecs, which won't work reliably on 3g mobile data. The biggest advantage of my setup is iLBC codec, arguably the best codecs for 3g mobile connection. Another great codec for 3g is G729 but I haven't found an integrated way to use G729 for free.
frigidazzi said:
How about audio delay? Mine is noticeable using Google voice and the carrier.
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Latency, or delay, is inherent to all VOIP calls. To mitigate the delay, pick a server closest to you in settings from pbxes website.
post-mortem said:
Since you've done so much testing, maybe you could include some more information on how your setup works. Like, how many seconds does it ring? How about voicemail? Any issues if you enter/leave your home (i.e., wifi area) during a call, etc.
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GV calls forwarded to pbxes ring about 17 seconds. This is well documented in another XDA thread.
I rely solely on GV voicemail.
When you leave wifi, you lose registration to SIP server.

I passed 2 tests today.
1. I can have a pretty good conversation while driving at 45 mph. I haven't had a chance to test on highways yet.
2. My wife is satisfied with the set up on her N4.
In addition, I found media5-fone app has less latency than csipsimple. However, you have to pay to remove the ads and it consumes more battery even w/ TCP connection.

acegolfer said:
I passed 2 tests today.
1. I can have a pretty good conversation while driving at 45 mph. I haven't had a chance to test on highways yet.
2. My wife is satisfied with the set up on her N4.
In addition, I found media5-fone app has less latency than csipsimple. However, you have to pay to remove the ads and it consumes more battery even w/ TCP connection.
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Good news. Have you tried Bluetooth with media5-fone? I am having some issues using Bluetooth with csipsimple and am looking for another SIP client other than sipdroid.
Thanks... plee3

acegolfer said:
When you leave wifi, you lose registration to SIP server.
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What exactly does that mean?

andoird213 said:
What exactly does that mean?
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This means if you are on a call using wifi, when you leave your wifi range, your call will be dropped as your SIP connection is lost.
Hope this helps... plee3

plee3 said:
Good news. Have you tried Bluetooth with media5-fone? I am having some issues using Bluetooth with csipsimple and am looking for another SIP client other than sipdroid.
Thanks... plee3
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I have not tried Bluetooth with N4. In fact, I don't know where my BT headsets are.
FYI, media5 is a free app with ads. It costs $5 to remove ads.

plee3 said:
I would like to test this setup. Can you give more details and examples for steps 3-b and 3-c in creating the trunk and inbound routing on pbxes.org? plee3
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Seconded!
Thanks for sharing all these details, if I knew more about the pbxes setup, I might give this a shot. Any chance you'd share screenshots of your pbxes setup? I've tried modifying mine before, but never successfully.

quarksurfer said:
Seconded!
Thanks for sharing all these details, if I knew more about the pbxes setup, I might give this a shot. Any chance you'd share screenshots of your pbxes setup? I've tried modifying mine before, but never successfully.
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3-b. Add a trunk using callcentric SIP credentials in pbxes. Log in to pbxes.org, click add trunk, select SIP trunk and input callcentric credentials. (user name starts with 1777 number.)
http://www4.pbxes.com/wiki/index.php/Getting_Started
3-c. Add an inbound route for callcentric trunk. This will pull any calls to callcentric and route them to N4. (OTOH, if you try to push the call from callcentric end, it will not be free.)
3-d. Select "audio bypass" in both callcentric trunk and extensions. pbxes will pass-through the calls from callcentric to N4 so that you can use iLBC codec. (pbxes claims to support iLBC but when I answer gtalk calls, there's no sound. That's why we need callcentric for incoming calls.)
This is what my pbxes looks like for 3-b and 3-c.

acegolfer said:
I have not tried Bluetooth with N4. In fact, I don't know where my BT headsets are.
FYI, media5 is a free app with ads. It costs $5 to remove ads.
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Thanks for the info, but the free version does not support Bluetooth (you need to upgrade to the paid version to enable Bluetooth).
Thanks again... plee3

How about vonage? free calls to numbers in the US

Just wanted to say I followed your guide and it appears to be working great.
Only issue I had was pbxe was sending calls to Google voice and call centric and my T-Mobile number. So I had a bunch of voice mails lol.
Think its all figured out now though. Incoming I have just call centric and out going to Google talk.
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Just had a question, sure I am just being paranoid. But how secure is this setup? Like on the phone giving my social etc can someone listen in?
Also I am getting voice mail notificaion all of a sudden. Can't clear it and Google voice / tmobile show no new mail. Any idea?
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plee3 said:
Thanks for the info, but the free version does not support Bluetooth (you need to upgrade to the paid version to enable Bluetooth).
Thanks again... plee3
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Ic. I didn't pay $5 to get the full media5 version. The little latency in csipsimple didn't bother me in real life settings.

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How about vonage? free calls to numbers in the US
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I heard good things about vonage app so I tested vonage on 3g a few days ago. The call quality of vonage was similar to my setup but it had more latency. I believe vonage is using either G729 or iLBC codec but the server is farther than my pbxes server. YMMV.
However, I found a bigger problem with vonage. I couldn't get it integrated with android. This means you need to open the vonage app and type in the 10 digit phone number to make a call. This won't work well when I'm on the fly, which is when I need vonage the most.
ogrillion said:
Just wanted to say I followed your guide and it appears to be working great.
Only issue I had was pbxe was sending calls to Google voice and call centric and my T-Mobile number. So I had a bunch of voice mails lol.
Think its all figured out now though. Incoming I have just call centric and out going to Google talk.
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Just had a question, sure I am just being paranoid. But how secure is this setup? Like on the phone giving my social etc can someone listen in?
Also I am getting voice mail notificaion all of a sudden. Can't clear it and Google voice / tmobile show no new mail. Any idea?
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Not too sure about VOIP security. I'm relying on 3 services: GV/callcentric/pbxes so there could be a loose end. For example, I heard that Google "hears" everything. But any wireless company does the same.
I'm guessing you have a voice mail in pbxes because you said it's not GV or Tmo. To clear it, call pbxes voice mail by dialing *97.
In addition, I found csipsimple has a wrong voice mail input for pbxes. Here's how to change it, if you want to long press "1" to access pbxes voice mail or want to change it to GV voicemail number.
http://code.google.com/p/csipsimple/wiki/FAQ

In OP, I recommended pulling rather than pushing to avoid callcentric call forwarding charges. But I may have been wrong about it.
http://www.callcentric.com/features/unlimited_sip_uri_calling
If call forward to SIP URI is free, then callcentric can push the GV calls instead of pbxes pulling GV calls.
1. log in to callcentric.com
2. go to preferences>DID forwarding
3. locate the number that you added to Google Voice. click edit.
4. enter your pbxes SIP URI such as "[email protected]" and save.
I have made several test calls but don't see callcentric (which doesn't have my CC infor) is billing anything.
Why pushing (compared with pulling)?
1. It's faster. Once the phone call is placed, It takes 1 second less for your phone to ring. In my testing, the total time is now about 5 seconds, which is still slow because GV relies on PSTN. OTOH, if a phone call is made directly to @pbxes.org SIP, then it takes 2 seconds to ring. I have convinced my wife to call me using SIP URI.
2. It's more reliable. Pulling requires pbxes to register callcentric and intercept the calls.
3. It's simpler. You can skip steps 3-b and 3-c, which seem to be the confusing part.

I can't imagine they could bill you even if they wanted too without any kind of credit card info. I didn't even put a real name or address so I don't know.. lol.. But it does let me put in any number I want to forward too, I didn't actually try calling though because I am afraid of a bill. I imagine it would say something like this call can't be completed please add credit or whatever.
Its funny I followed your guide, doing all this reading.. for no real reason since i get like 3 calls a month.. Fun learning experience anyway.

[Q] Google Voice

Has anyone been able to get Google Voice to work on their phones? I have the 64gb Dev Edition and for some reason it keeps failing during setup. Any ideas?

I got it to work eventually (T-Mobile edition HTC One) but it took some effort; first, I would try deleting your forwarding phone number from Google Voice's website, uninstalling the app/clearing data, and then adding the number back on the web page. Then check the box to enable call forwarding/voicemail service and it will give you the number to dial on your phone; do that, and it should set up the voicemail successfully (it will still say "Carrier" under your call settings, changing it to the Google Voice option never works for me). Then I would reinstall the app and set it up again. Hope that helps; it's kind of a pain but it worked for me. Although I would add that for whatever reason it stopped working and I had to repeat this process later on. So it's kind of hit and miss, at least on T-Mobile.

right now gV is going through changes. since google actually wants to hack gV away and intergrate the functions into google hangout. so those using the gV tunneling method to be on 30$ prepaid 4g plans might be SOL for a bit. while google works this **** out. not sure though might have to get one of these guys to confirm.

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Has anyone been able to get Google Voice to work on their phones? I have the 64gb Dev Edition and for some reason it keeps failing during setup. Any ideas?
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Are you trying to set it up to be your voice mail provider? If so, I've successfully set my phone up, but I wasn't able to do it through using the in app method. I had to manually set it up so it send calls to Google Voice.
If you go to settings > Call > Call forwarding > Then set the options to:
Always forward: Disabled
Forward when busy: My Google Voice #
Forward when unanswered: My Google Voice #
Forward when unreachable: My Google Voice #
Also, you might notice there is an option to change your Voicemail service after selecting Call from the setting menu. I left this alone... My phone has that option currently set to My carrier.
In the end, these settings forward any calls that come in to your Google Voice number just like it would if you were able to get through the set up using the in-app feature.

bassantics said:
Are you trying to set it up to be your voice mail provider? If so, I've successfully set my phone up, but I wasn't able to do it through using the in app method. I had to manually set it up so it send calls to Google Voice.
If you go to settings > Call > Call forwarding > Then set the options to:
Always forward: Disabled
Forward when busy: My Google Voice #
Forward when unanswered: My Google Voice #
Forward when unreachable: My Google Voice #
Also, you might notice there is an option to change your Voicemail service after selecting Call from the setting menu. I left this alone... My phone has that option currently set to My carrier.
In the end, these settings forward any calls that come in to your Google Voice number just like it would if you were able to get through the set up using the in-app feature.
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Fixed *kind of* using this method.
I tried the method in the 2nd post but it still didn't work so all I ended up doing was changing my "Carrier Voice Mail" number to my Google Voice number.
Settings/Call/Voicemail Settings/Changed number to Google voice number.
And now it works fine!
Thanks for all the help guys.

darkjuan said:
Fixed *kind of* using this method.
I tried the method in the 2nd post but it still didn't work so all I ended up doing was changing my "Carrier Voice Mail" number to my Google Voice number.
Settings/Call/Voicemail Settings/Changed number to Google voice number.
And now it works fine!
Thanks for all the help guys.
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Glad you got it working!

Free GV incoming/outgoing calls using Vonage Mobile App

Vonage Mobile app has allowed android users to make free phone calls using GV number as CID. However, it didn't allow us to receive regular phone calls, which was a big drawback of this app.
But now, it's possible to receive free phone calls with "ReachMe Roaming."
1. Go to Vonage Mobile app>settings and choose "ReachMe Roaming"
2. Do NOT check "Inbound calls to xxx-xxx-xxxx will be received on Vonage Mobile."
3. Click "More ways to ..."
4. Write down the Vonage assigned new incoming 10-digit DID number.
5. Add this number as one of your GV forwarding numbers. It may take a while for GV to verify this number. It took me several tries.
Now you can make free WIFI GV incoming/outgoing calls.
Notes:
1. This is irrelevant to gtalk XMPP shutdown.
2. Vonage app uses GCM so very little battery drain.
3. Vonage app uses a better audio codec than other VOIP apps so the call is crystal clear especially over WIFI. The only issue I have on 3G is while driving on highway (cell tower switching).
4. ReachMe Roaming is not permanent. Once activated, it lasts for 14 days. After 14 days, you get a notification to renew (keep the same #).
5. If GV forwards incoming calls to both Tmo and Vonage numbers, then Vonage app will ring first and Tmo phone will ring 1 second later. Unfortunately, you can't decline Tmo phone to answer in Vonage. In my case, I only set GV forwarding to Vonage.
6. This free calling will expire in 9/4/2014. I hope Hangouts will be able to do regular phone calling before then.

This works perfectly. And if I don't pick up in time, callers are greeted to my Google voice greeting. Same for not accepting a call. I did not need to set anything up in Google voice, other than to forward my incoming calls to the number in the Vonage app.

ReachMe seems to deactivate automatically after 2 weeks at which time I assume you get a different Vonage DID if you re-activate it? I doubt they assign you a permanent number and still it would be a pain to remember to re-activate every 2 weeks.

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ReachMe seems to deactivate automatically after 2 weeks at which time I assume you get a different Vonage DID if you re-activate it? I doubt they assign you a permanent number and still it would be a pain to remember to re-activate every 2 weeks.
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I think you are right. This is not the perfect solution. But with gtalk xmpp shutdown, unfortunately the choices to use GV number to make free incoming/outgoing WiFi calls are very limited.
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I'm still able to make and receive calls via groove ip
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For Wi-Fi only!? How about on mobile data? Do you miss incoming calls and/or have poor voice quality and/or drop calls when driving on highway and using Vonage Mobile app?

hoktrillian said:
For Wi-Fi only!? How about on mobile data? Do you miss incoming calls and/or have poor voice quality and/or drop calls when driving on highway and using Vonage Mobile app?
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I don't think mobile data works well for VOIP when in motion, no matter the app. If you stay still then it can be usable depending on the signal and the connection type (3G, LTE).

Thanks for the tip. Just a reminder that incoming calls only work when connected to wifi. I received the confirmation call from Google Voice to activate the #, but the system did not register the confirmation code I typed into the dialer initially. When tried again via a WiFi connection, everything was resolved
Edit: Also, one other reminder (that in retrospect is obvious but is easy to overlook) is that you need to deactivate the call forwarding to your T-Mo # when you add your ReachMe roaming #... If not, the ReachMe Roaming fights with the Native App to answer the call and glitches ensue

macallik said:
Thanks for the tip. Just a reminder that incoming calls only work when connected to wifi. I received the confirmation call from Google Voice to activate the #, but the system did not register the confirmation code I typed into the dialer initially. When tried again via a WiFi connection, everything was resolved
Edit: Also, one other reminder (that in retrospect is obvious but is easy to overlook) is that you need to deactivate the call forwarding to your T-Mo # when you add your ReachMe roaming #... If not, the ReachMe Roaming fights with the Native App to answer the call and glitches ensue
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I receive incoming calls via the app, even on mobile data. I'm not sure if there is a rule about connection (must be on LTE/hspa/3g, but not edge). WiFi is not required, at least not in my experience.

tokuzumi said:
I receive incoming calls via the app, even on mobile data. I'm not sure if there is a rule about connection (must be on LTE/hspa/3g, but not edge). WiFi is not required, at least not in my experience.
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It will work, but unless you have a really strong 3G signal or better the call may drop, break up, or have a lot of echoing.

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Extending the roaming is really easy. I get a notification to renew and one click will do. Same number.
update: sorry for the huge picture size. Didn't know how big it was when I posted from Nexus 4.
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acegolfer said:
Extending the roaming is really easy. I get a notification to renew and one click will do. Same number.
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I haven't seen that notification yet. My service has the same end date, too. Did you see the notification in the notification shade, or only in the Vonage app?

tokuzumi said:
I haven't seen that notification yet. My service has the same end date, too. Did you see the notification in the notification shade, or only in the Vonage app?
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From the notification shade.

acegolfer said:
From the notification shade.
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I just received the notification. I went to renew, and it said the service couldn't be reached. My end date shows Dec 31, 1969. Next time I see it, I'll make a call first, to make sure everything is OK.
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Went back into the Vonage app later, for something unrelated, and I saw where my service was reactivated, and I had a new service end date. I looked at the reachme mobile number, and it was blank. I saw a notification that said the service had been deactivated. I clicked it, and it shut the service off. I had to get a new number. It was a 10 second process to set up the new number, so I'm not worried about it, but I'll see what happens in the future.

acegolfer said:
Extending the roaming is really easy. I get a notification to renew and one click will do. Same number.
update: sorry for the huge picture size. Didn't know how big it was when I posted from Nexus 4.
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Hmmmm...Initially I left everything on the GV side of things as is, only adding the Vonage # to the forwarding page. When I had incoming calls, the Vonage app would pop up for a split second but then my T-mobile # would override the Vonage app and so if I answered the call, I used my plan minutes.
What I did after that was deselect the checkboxes under the Google Voice Forwarding section so that only Vonage was selected. That worked the day I tried calling myself using my backup FreedomPop phone, but it has stopped working since then. Initially when it stopped working, I would have to answer via my regular phone, but I would get a missed call notification from Vonage. Now, there isn't even a missed call notification from Vonage... I only see a missed call via my stock calling app.... it is as if the call is not even attempting to go through the Vonage app.
TL;DR:
What forwarding boxes do you have checked under google voice
Under ReachMe Roaming, I don't have the 'inbound calls to (gv #) selected... should I?
Do you have/use Google Hangouts? I don't think that is the culprit but it is the only thing I have recently added really that interacts inbound calls.

macallik said:
Hmmmm...Initially I left everything on the GV side of things as is, only adding the Vonage # to the forwarding page. When I had incoming calls, the Vonage app would pop up for a split second but then my T-mobile # would override the Vonage app and so if I answered the call, I used my plan minutes.
What I did after that was deselect the checkboxes under the Google Voice Forwarding section so that only Vonage was selected. That worked the day I tried calling myself using my backup FreedomPop phone, but it has stopped working since then. Initially when it stopped working, I would have to answer via my regular phone, but I would get a missed call notification from Vonage. Now, there isn't even a missed call notification from Vonage... I only see a missed call via my stock calling app.... it is as if the call is not even attempting to go through the Vonage app.
TL;DR:
What forwarding boxes do you have checked under google voice
Under ReachMe Roaming, I don't have the 'inbound calls to (gv #) selected... should I?
Do you have/use Google Hangouts? I don't think that is the culprit but it is the only thing I have recently added really that interacts inbound calls.
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All I did was ensure ReachMe Roaming was enabled, and the check box with your number was not checked. Then I forwarded my incoming calls in Google voice to the ReachMe number. Now incoming/outgoing calls are handled by my Google voice number.

macallik said:
TL;DR:
What forwarding boxes do you have checked under google voice
Under ReachMe Roaming, I don't have the 'inbound calls to (gv #) selected... should I?
Do you have/use Google Hangouts? I don't think that is the culprit but it is the only thing I have recently added really that interacts inbound calls.
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1. Only "Vonage" number
2. No.
3. My hangouts in N4 has never interacted with inbound calls. How does yours interact with inbound calls?

Tried the set up on my Nexus 4. Pretty cool.
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After using this method for 2+ weeks, I consider this to be the most reliable VOIP solution for me ($30 Tmo prepaid + Nexus 4). This will no longer be free on 9/4/2014 but I hope Google Hangouts will be able to make free VOIP calls soon.

acegolfer said:
1. Only "Vonage" number
2. No.
3. My hangouts in N4 has never interacted with inbound calls. How does yours interact with inbound calls?
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Took forever but I figured it out. This issue was two-fold
1.) Google Forwarding: I disabled Call Forwarding in the main area of GV a few weeks ago:
However, for customization, GV also allows you to set group-specific forwarding rules that will override the default Call Forwarding settings. As you can see below, it is currently set to only forward to my Vonage #:
However, prior to today, my Group settings had all three boxes selected. Since the Group Setting in question were for 'All Contacts' the group-specific setting was overriding my default settings for every call I received:
2.) Google Hangouts: Acegolfer, this is what I was mentioning before. To clarify, it is not Hangout on my N4 that was creating an issue, it was the Hangout extension on my Chromebook. The extension is helpful because it is essentially Google Voice's ability to message people via your computer + WhatsApp ability to have Group conversations internationally + Skype's ability to have free video calls. One cool thing I learned about the Hangout extension is that if someone calls my Google confirmed # (in this case, my GV #), I can answer the call via my computer which will not use any of my T-Mobile minutes.
The drawback with regards to the Vonage app is that the Hangout extension is forwarding the call to the computer, not additionally routing calls to the computer...so if my computer is available, it takes cuts the line ahead of the Vonage app, and the Vonage app never rings.
A resulting issue with this is that the Hangouts extension only keeps track of Hangout conversations that originated from the app/extension, not phone calls (or text messages) that were routed to the Hangout App/Extension. What this means is if someone calls tries to set up a Hangout Call via the Hangout App and I miss it, I get a notification, but if someone attempts a regular phone call that rings on my computer and I miss it, the app/extension does not notify me or keep a history log of the attempted call. Additionally, since the call was never routed to my phone, there will be no record of a missed call there either. To get around this, I sign out of the Hangout extension on my computer if I don't plan on using it.
I have found that there is one exception where the phone can ring as well as my computer, and this is if I have check the 'Call forwarding' box next to my T-Mobile #, the phone will ring on my Computer via Hangouts, and ring on my Phone (as a call that uses Plan minutes).