[Q] Prices for apps - Xoom Themes and Apps

I couldn't help but notice that, on average, the Android market apps are much more expensive than apps at the iTunes store. Is this because there is much less of a clientele? If I look into the apps for jailbroken iPhone etc. the prices are more similar.
Do you guys think that the prices will come down once the Android community grows? For now I love to support programs I use (e.g. SetCPU) but over time I'd like to get the "99 cent" apps as well

The problem is kind of the opposite from developer's pov, the lions share of apps on our devices are free. Partly this is offset by ad revenue. Some of the higher prices also have to do with exchange rates, and the relative weakness of the dollar these days,
Sent from my Xoom using Tapatalk

I am not sure I agree
funnycreature said:
I couldn't help but notice that, on average, the Android market apps are much more expensive than apps at the iTunes store. Is this because there is much less of a clientele? If I look into the apps for jailbroken iPhone etc. the prices are more similar.
Do you guys think that the prices will come down once the Android community grows? For now I love to support programs I use (e.g. SetCPU) but over time I'd like to get the "99 cent" apps as well
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have not paid for an app yet on my Android phone. You have to look around. I don't think I can agree with your comment though about ITunes being cheaper. But, to my defense it has been awhile since I logged in on there. It seems like I was always paying for something on my iPhone

Kent_Davis said:
I have not paid for an app yet on my Android phone. You have to look around. I don't think I can agree with your comment though about ITunes being cheaper. But, to my defense it has been awhile since I logged in on there. It seems like I was always paying for something on my iPhone
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
that is the exact reason for some of the problems lol. android users, perhaps because they are smarter, rarely pay for apps. apple users seem to be the same people that a couple years ago were paying 5 dollars for a 15 second ringtone lol. the whole "willing to pay" aspect of the apple fanbase is the main reason why media companies, corporations, etc love to push and develop for iOS; sometimes makes me wonder if i would be happier being a chump.
real lesson though: donate/pay for android apps people! (i personally prefer donate model, but people love to be free riders, so that might not work)

Thanks for all the input! I agree with all of you. When I pay the devs here at the Android community I feel like I pay someone in person. At iTunes it will most likely be gobbled up by Apple (30%) and the big software corporations.
The main reason why I posted this was that I saw the same game at the Android market for 250% of the iTunes price... If I think something is worth buying (or donating to the creator) then I'll do it. Heck, I'd even be willing to pay if someone would develop a stable Honeycomb ROM for the NOOK!

funnycreature said:
Thanks for all the input! I agree with all of you. When I pay the devs here at the Android community I feel like I pay someone in person. At iTunes it will most likely be gobbled up by Apple (30%) and the big software corporations.
The main reason why I posted this was that I saw the same game at the Android market for 250% of the iTunes price... If I think something is worth buying (or donating to the creator) then I'll do it. Heck, I'd even be willing to pay if someone would develop a stable Honeycomb ROM for the NOOK!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Don't forget that Goolgle gobbles up that same 30% from developers.

Related

Am I the only one that thinks Paid Apps are getting rediculous?

Yes, you developers need to eat!
Yes, you should be paid to work!
But PLEASE think about how much you are charging. What exactly are you charging X amount for?
If you are not careful, you will do nothing but promote the Piracy of applications. I don't think you would find that acceptable, if everyone stole your work. Please just remember, that you are working on an OPEN SOURCE device. So when you take a bunch of files, do minor editing, and slap 2.99 on it, it is not worth it.
PLEASE use your brain for more then just code. THINK about the people that don't code, and think - are they going to spend $100-300 to buy all the apps for their phones? If they don't think they are getting the value, people WILL steal. Just look at the music industry!
THIS does not mean that you should just make everything free. This does mean that if you spent 10 min's making a new search bar widget (dxTop) that you probably shouldn't charge for it.
If I am wrong, please tell me, and tell me why.
Well, since you have 24 hours to return them, what's the problem?
I mean, anything under $3,- who cares? That's less than a coffee at Starbucks, when all is said and done.
I'm a video game engineer and web developer, and I charge poeople around $20/hour for my services, so if someone spends 15 minutes building an app to better your uses, then $3 I can understand. Now, I don't think a lot of the apps are worth the money because it really isnt THAT much work to do, and when you had no problem offering it for free, to now charge? Donating, thats no problem. But you shouldn't force those to buy it. Programs like BetterCut, we not available prior to paid app releases, and apposed to anycut, has multiple new and truley great features that I will in a heart beat pay $3.00.
Spending the money isn't the problem for me, $10 on an app, who cares. It's only 10 bucks. However, I just don't like the way developers went about making paying for apps a neccessity, and turning their old versions into trials. And then starting to restrict features.
When its all said and done I mean, guess there isn't much I can do but *****. If I want the app I'll buy it, I've already got 15-20 apps I've paid for so far because I find them to be necessities worth my cash. It's just stupid how it goes down.
I don't mind for people charging for apps. I haven't found the need to buy any apps yet because I haven't seen an app that interests me enough to buy it. There are a lot of apps out there and a bunch of them are getting crap reviews. I think the market just needs some time to find out what prices work and what don't. And it seems like when a good app concept comes out, another dev makes a few version.
I totally agree with you q426669,they are releasing a bunch of ****ty apps,sorry about the ****ty part....and I know you guys are busy and it´s your time.....etc....etc..When I first listened about the paid apps I was very excited thinking....cool we´re gonna start seeing nice apps,but as of now I am getting tired of stupid joke apps,flashlights etc....I don´t even feel like trying any app out,and yes I am willing to pay like I used to do with Windows Mobile.
Gonna be real interesting with the Blackberry App Store.....their lowest price starts at $3.
Anyone who buys a paid wallpaper/ringtone app deserves what they get lol. They are all out there if people search for them. I cant understand for the life of me why people have bought the paid flashlight app but ok. Developers take the time to make them so I will pay for it if its something I really want, no problem. I agree though that the apps and games coming out are pretty lame but i just ignore them. People whining about a .99 cent app are ridiculous to me, how much money do you waste on fast food and other stuff you don't need? Take that 5 bucks for your burger king and get a few cool games or apps to deck out your phone! As far as piracy of stuff its gonna happen no matter how much people charge, nothing anyone can do about it. I think making demo versions though will help cut piracy down a little.

[Paying-Must Read!!!] I am paying for someone to make an app for me. Please Read!!!!!

Hi I am paying for someone to make an app for me. It would be like the last.fm app where you can stream the music from the site, but it's for soundclick.com not last.fm. I would like to be able to sign into my account, view my favorite bands, rate/comment songs, Download songs to my sdcard right from the app, upload songs (for band accounts), and basically a fully functionally app that lets me use all the features on soundclick. I will pay $10 for someone to make the app. I will pay you via paypal, after the app is completed and being used on my G1.
An application like that would take a long time to create and cost way more then $10 to produce.
10 dollars? haha no comment
Lol, if you want an app like that you would have to pay way more than 10$. That app sounds really complex. I think you undervalue the amount of skill and work it takes to actually program an app. It's actually pretty hard ( I am a beginning coder myself ). Offering 10$ for something like that is almost an insult.
hmmm, but I thought making apps were free, all it took was time. and at least im offering something lmao. I could just be like I want some one to make it free lol. Well so it looks like no one's going to do it?
zayg1 said:
hmmm, but I thought making apps were free, all it took was time. and at least im offering something lmao. I could just be like I want some one to make it free lol. Well so it looks like no one's going to do it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The SDK for android is free, but there's a fee to post things to the market. Not to mention that it takes a LOT of time to make. You're basically asking for months of someones time for $10.
benmyers2941 said:
The SDK for android is free, but there's a fee to post things to the market. Not to mention that it takes a LOT of time to make. You're basically asking for months of someones time for $10.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
yeah, but i'm not asking for it to be posted in the market lol I said for me lol. Whatever they decide to do with it when it's done is up to them . But I see where you are coming from .
Something like that would cost at least a few thousand dollar's worth of programmer's time. I don't know anything about soundclick, but it's very likely that it wouldn't be possible to make an app without their consent/help.
Your best bet is to suggest that they make an app themselves.
XavinNydek said:
Something like that would cost at least a few thousand dollar's worth of programmer's time. I don't know anything about soundclick, but it's very likely that it wouldn't be possible to make an app without their consent/help.
Your best bet is to suggest that they make an app themselves.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
How would I go about suggesting it to them? Because don't you think i would be hard to contact the owner and have them listen to someone asking for them to make an app for android?
zayg1 said:
How would I go about suggesting it to them? Because don't you think i would be hard to contact the owner and have them listen to someone asking for them to make an app for android?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I would start at their Contact Page. Probably with the support email, then maybe business development if you don't get any response from support.
$10?!?!?
Are you out of your mind?
Make a real offer. I'm not a dev but I was thinking along these lines for Hero Mock Widgets:
Pay $500 per working mock Hero widgets plus 25% of profits gained.
Charge each widget $4.99 or $20 for the entire pack.
The demand for Hero ported to Cupcake is so large that I would make my $500 in less than a day (hell... maybe in just a couple of hours) since everyone would be purchasing the $20 widget pack. Then $5 would go to the dev for each download (say 1,000) download the first day (which wouldn't be too unrealistic given the demand) so the dev could easily make $1,500 for the work on release.
That would be a minimum offer!
$10... you won't even get an e-mail of interest for that. Even if it was going to be a free app on the Market. If anything you gave someone an idea to do it themselves, take the credit and charge what ever they want (like $0.99 for ten people like YOU that want it so badly) and he could make more than a lousey $10.
use imeem , they have an app
maek_it_happen said:
use imeem , they have an app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I have imeem, but I want a soundclick one. Imeem and soundclick are completely different.
Binary100100 said:
Are you out of your mind?
Make a real offer. I'm not a dev but I was thinking along these lines for Hero Mock Widgets:
Pay $500 per working mock Hero widgets plus 25% of profits gained.
Charge each widget $4.99 or $20 for the entire pack.
The demand for Hero ported to Cupcake is so large that I would make my $500 in less than a day (hell... maybe in just a couple of hours) since everyone would be purchasing the $20 widget pack. Then $5 would go to the dev for each download (say 1,000) download the first day (which wouldn't be too unrealistic given the demand) so the dev could easily make $1,500 for the work on release.
That would be a minimum offer!
$10... you won't even get an e-mail of interest for that. Even if it was going to be a free app on the Market. If anything you gave someone an idea to do it themselves, take the credit and charge what ever they want (like $0.99 for ten people like YOU that want it so badly) and he could make more than a lousey $10.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
What are you talking about??? I dont want a widget. I dont even want rights to sell the app. I just want it made so that I can use it lmao.
wait for flash player then , once flash player is integrated u should be able to use all the features of the real site
Some companies pour millions into R&D for applications, $10 would barely buy them coffee. lol. Yeah, best bet is to contact soundclick and ask them if they're developing an app for android. Or hope there a dev out there that wants it as badly as you do, and is currently creating one.
YAY 600 posts.
The $10 is hilarious but besides that it probably isn't possible. There is no public API as far as I can tell. They also you a flash music player. Meaning there is no way to make the calls to stream the music.
Either email them and request it or wait till there is a flash player in android
So to sum everything up here: zayg1, it ain't gonna happen.
If you really want someone to write it for you try http://www.rent-a-coder.com there programmers will bid down against eachother for the job, you might only have to pay someone $1k
$10? Free to make? You don't know anything. Go read a book. Sorry.

Please support our game developers with positive comments!

Sorry guys for the double post, but the developer of the popular Bang bang Racing has asked that us members here at XDA help them by posting some positive, honest comments in the Android marketplace. Recently they have been receiving one-star ratings all due to the recent price drop, which to me is really not fair considering that all developers do this and these guys have really been working hard to fix the issues that we had with this game from the first release date. negative comments can really stop people from buying games, which in turn can hurt us as the developer wont focus on a platform that is not selling their games well enough. So in short, please take a minute or two to place some positive feedback as they deserve it. And look for more great games from the developer and updates soon Xoomers!!
Yea the game is great and if it was worth it for you when you first bought it then you shouldn't be mad enough to want to rate down a developer just cause the price dropped. People need to keep in mind that they are reviewing the game as it was when they picked it up and games of this caliber are few and far between; I feel like even if you don't personally love the game, if you can appreciate what the developer is doing then you should rate up and let other people decide if the price is worth it for them. But I'm one of the few people that think that there are mobile games worth MORE than what developers charge for them.
It sucks for peeps that bought the game early at full price (me included) and the controls sucked, now that the controls are fixed and bugs fixed, the price drops half price, I think it should be the other way around.
Just my thoughts.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
futuregerald said:
Yea the game is great and if it was worth it for you when you first bought it then you shouldn't be mad enough to want to rate down a developer just cause the price dropped. People need to keep in mind that they are reviewing the game as it was when they picked it up and games of this caliber are few and far between; I feel like even if you don't personally love the game, if you can appreciate what the developer is doing then you should rate up and let other people decide if the price is worth it for them. But I'm one of the few people that think that there are mobile games worth MORE than what developers charge for them.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree with you!! We finally have some quality games for Android an people want to complain over price drops!! Name on developer that releases a perfect game n keeps the prices the same??
whoever complains are idiots and have so much time to waste, i bought it regular price and even though i didnt like it at first, it grew on me and i love it now, if only you can get us some controls like death rally that would be great.and yes, most developers drop prices after couple of weeks, for a limited time.
wolf1306 said:
whoever complains are idiots and have so much time to waste, i bought it regular price and even though i didnt like it at first, it grew on me and i love it now, if only you can get us some controls like death rally that would be great.and yes, most developers drop prices after couple of weeks, for a limited time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good idea on the ccontrols, I will suggest that one. The tighter controls really make the game much more fun, I can now come in at first place most of the time.
wolf1306 said:
whoever complains are idiots and have so much time to waste, i bought it regular price and even though i didnt like it at first, it grew on me and i love it now, if only you can get us some controls like death rally that would be great.and yes, most developers drop prices after couple of weeks, for a limited time.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Good idea on the ccontrols, I will suggest that one. The tighter controls really make the game much more fun, I can now come in at first place most of the time.
lokko21 said:
It sucks for peeps that bought the game early at full price (me included) and the controls sucked, now that the controls are fixed and bugs fixed, the price drops half price, I think it should be the other way around.
Just my thoughts.
Sent from my Xoom using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree that it sucks; but decisions are made before the game comes out but the real world situation is constantly changing. They decided after a while to add control options and lower the price to entice new people to purchase the game and for this people who initially bought it are getting upset because they feel they were cheated? it's not like the developer tried to screw anybody and I don't think they deserve a bad rating because of this. If you really have issues then just contact the developer directly; but to rate the game down and therefore tell others who don't bother reading the reviews but just look at the stars the game isn't worth buying is silly. The devs are just lucky that overall the game has good reviews.
This is almost like getting upset that I can score a better deal on a new Xoom right now then those who bought it on day one, and mine would come with HC 3.1 which makes it better then when it first came out....
That doesnt make sense....
inferno1 said:
This is almost like getting upset that I can score a better deal on a new Xoom right now then those who bought it on day one, and mine would come with HC 3.1 which makes it better then when it first came out....
That doesnt make sense....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It doesn't at all..The developer is now as we speak preparing updates to this game, they want to keep the game fresh n exciting for us. How many Android developers do we have that give us this type of support, especially when the game hasn't sold well? They have been really great an to suffer in sales due to immature ratings is not just bad for them, but bad for us also...we need to show support for developers who deliver quality which the Android platform needs
inferno1 said:
This is almost like getting upset that I can score a better deal on a new Xoom right now then those who bought it on day one, and mine would come with HC 3.1 which makes it better then when it first came out....
That doesnt make sense....
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It is like buying an Xoom and then two weeks later, they drop the price half price.
That doesn't make any sense, right...!?!?!
Evo Better Than The Best...
I also bought the game day one and hated the controls so i refunded it, if they didn't lower the price i wouldn't of given it a second shot (glad I did, cuase now its great) good move on devs part with the 3.99 price.
lokko21 said:
It is like buying an Xoom and then two weeks later, they drop the pric0e half price.
That doesn't make any sense, right...!?!?!
Evo Better Than The Best...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Your comparing 400 dollars to 4 dollars?
p2flol said:
I also bought the game day one and hated the controls so i refunded it, if they didn't lower the price i wouldn't of given it a second shot (glad I did, cuase now its great) good move on devs part with the 3.99 price.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I still think the controls are haywire but I kept the purchase this time ( I had also previously purchased it, vomitted in my mouth a little and refunded ).

Should apps be only PAID in WP?

Was reminiscing my HD7 days again...
When I had my HD7, most of the apps were, I will be honest, paid. Now before you pull the trigger on me, let me explain something.
A. I am not against paying for an app.
B. But is it necessary that a good app SHOULD b paid? (WhatsApp, Flipboard)
C. Many people do consider this as a deal-breaker before buying a phone. (My boss is one of them, to an extent I'm too.)
D. By good app, I don't mean mind-blowing 3D games. But basic apps like the ones mentioned above.
Shouldn't MS, being MS make deals with other brands and give the buyer some relief?
Opinions, view points, perspectives now welcome. :Z
Sent from my RaZr Nexus.
Apps are created to make money - or at least most of them are.
That being said there are different ways an App can make money:
1.) It connects to a service and by it's existence promotes that service or makes it easier to use that service. In those cases the service behind the App pays for the App. (Twitter, Facebook, etc. are prime examples)
2.) Advertisments - this is the route most free Apps to my knowledge take on the Play Store. Pretty obvious how this works but I actually would rather pay 99 Cent instead of having an advertisment in my face all the time.
3.) In App Purchases - those will come with WP8 but in my experience are most often used in a way that you get a basic App with severly limited functionality which is then made functional through those expensive purchases. I personally prefer to have a price upfront so I can decide if the App is worth it.
All in all and working in software development myself I believe that good apps should be payed and I do believe that they actually should cost more than they do today. People whining over a price tag of 99 Cents for something they are going to use every day. Buy a coke at McDonalds and you pay pretty much the same for it without much whining that it should be free. Most developers don't make much money on Apps (WP or otherwise) with prices being what they are. This is by the way one of the reasons why many developers go iOS first - iPhone users are far more likely to pay for an App than Android users (looking at the statistics).
Prices being what they are Microsoft and Nokia in certain regions added a gift card to phone purchases worth 20$/€. This might be an interesting strategy for the future as well.
No, the phone itself was probably expensive enough.
The monthly bill is probably more than you are getting out of it.
Where does it stop ?
Television was once free in many places, now I believe everybody pays for it.
If you want "premiuim" channels you pay more again.
We pay for internet connections.
If the developer of an application wants to charge for it so be it, if he wants it to be free so be it.
Freedom of choice.
LL13-
When TV is free it is paid for by the country that operates it. Somewhere someone has to pay for it. If it is payed through taxes you also pay for it although you might not notice. Pay-TV-channels are new - which means: they would not exist were they not payed. It is the same for many of those Apps. If Microsoft were to intervene to get certain Apps for free on the platform they would have to regain that cost somewhere which perhaps would drive up the per-unit-pricing of the phones.
I'm not trying to force people to make their App payed, of course it's the developers choice. But all this whining about 99 Cents for a good App you use frequently just has to stop. Effort goes into making those Apps, people spend time implementing and polishing them. They should receive something for that.
Soo, here i am thinking about the newest (and first) WP8 phone ever announced, the Samsung (insert weird name here).
Now on android i am having 90~ apps that i use daily.. now i am pretty sure i'll find them once the OS get's released but if everything will be paid that's a dealbreaker for me.. i don't want to pay too much for a phone and (0.99$ per app) 90~ $ more.
So nope, for me they should be free, actually app developers should decide.
Most of the apps on my last 3 wp7s were paid and most of them were awful. I do not mind paying for apps at all.
Sent from my Nexus S using Tapatalk 2
lamplighter13 said:
Television was once free in many places, now I believe everybody pays for it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If your in the US, TV is free if you can live with the programming you will get. FCC mandates that all HDTV channels (non premium channels)are broadcasted over the air.
Depending on where you live you can get some but, you might only get a few (I get 4 and not the major networks but, it is free)
Not everyone pays for it...but, most people pay because they want more than 5-7 channels.
As for the topic on hand. I think there should be free apps, some apps I will never use if I can't try them.
It amazes me how cheap some people are! Devs work there nuts off to bring you apps and you don't think they should get paid for that hard work?
MS will NEVER demand that all apps be paid apps that's crazy1 They limit the daily submissions to stop crapware like soundboards that plague the play store. Its a choice the dev makes and most offer you the choice with free versions supported by adds or paid versions (supertube for instance). The WP market place even has a section for free apps and games etc and some rock (archery for one).
All in all i think MS has done a great job keeping app standards high. They could of gone the Android route and let anything pass just to get the numbers up but they didnt! Also not MS offer trials when android and ios normally have lite versions though i see more slipping into the market.

windows phone 8 apps, is it possible to install a third party app?

i have the HTC one X but i need to give it to my father...
so i am buying a new phone and wp8 look good, new and refreshing
but i have one problem
say i buy the ativ S and i want a game that cost money on marketplace
on android i can jast download and install
on IOS installus
on WP8?
i need a custom rom? or hacking the phone? what is my options?
thanks
You could pay for the app instead of pirating it.
i can do that on android and iphone...
StevieBallz said:
You could pay for the app instead of pirating it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
THIS.
Don't come in here asking how to bork devs out of money they deserve.
Well if say you work somewhere would you like it if your employer does not pay you for your work?
I have owned many different mobile OS and i always pay for my apps after using Android for 3 years i payed 60€ in total for 88 payed apps. Are you that cheap?
Verstuurd van mijn GT-I9300 met Tapatalk
ok............................
soo why are you making a wp7 custom rom? or the bazaar app ( its like installus right?) ?
if you pay for it why do need need developers for... (android dev i understand...)
edit: you can lock... i read somewhere i got my answer...
CustomROMs and Unlocks enable you to run Apps that are not possible with the official APIs. Bazaar is an alternate Marketplace that provides the possibility to centrally discover and install those Apps not possible in the official Marketplace. Bazaar does not allow you to pirate applications from the official Marketplace.
doron050 said:
i have the HTC one X but i need to give it to my father...
so i am buying a new phone and wp8 look good, new and refreshing
but i have one problem
say i buy the ativ S and i want a game that cost money on marketplace
on android i can jast download and install
on IOS installus
on WP8?
i need a custom rom? or hacking the phone? what is my options?
thanks
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Its people like you that have already destroyed the PC games market something I personally loved and could out perform any console (eyefinity anyone, not to mention far more hardcore graphics etc). Now the Pirates are doing what they can to rip off the phone market. I mean how cheap is this world??? If you cant afford a couple quid then maybe you should get a job!
Im waiting on this answer too, thinking about moving from my Titan to a HTC 8S, but only if I can sideload my apps, I have 3 I have wrote and probably will never send to market (never get round to polishing them up) and REALLY dont wanna pay $99 for the use of my own apps on my own phone, as soon as this information hits Ill pre-order a 8S
What this dude said
|
|
|
|
V
lumpaywk said:
Its people like you that have already destroyed the PC games market something I personally loved and could out perform any console (eyefinity anyone, not to mention far more hardcore graphics etc). Now the Pirates are doing what they can to rip off the phone market. I mean how cheap is this world??? If you cant afford a couple quid then maybe you should get a job!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my Lumia 900 using XDA Windows Phone 7 App
Companies will be able to install Apps from outside the Marketplace but we don't know yet how that will be managed. If I had to guess I'd be pretty sure that there will be no free sideloading, given that Windows 8 doesn't allow sideloading of Metro-Apps either without a developer certificate (though they are issuing them for free at the moment).
Microsoft will be allowing third-party developers to build Live Apps. These Live Apps can integrate with the lock screen, and also integrate into the new Windows Phone 8 Wallet and other hubs on the phone. The ability to choose among three different sizes of tiles as part of Windows Phone 8 OS.
http://www.zdnet.com/microsofts-windows-phone-8-has-live-tiles-and-live-apps-7000006545/
is its mean that i can install a third-party app?
if soo i want to install waze, this one: http://meirtsvi.wordpress.com/
is it possible?
You can't install Apps from outside the Windows Phone Store unless your Apps are signed with a specific Certificate that you only get after being verified as a company.
Pirates destroyed PC Gaming?
WTF are you on about the PC market is doing better than ever right now and it's driving future business models for all platforms. I mean not only is there a Free 2 Play revolution going on but it's been a platform for mods to drive sales for games like Dayz has sold at least 1 million copies of ArmA 2 as a result. On top of that we have Steam which is currently the best digital distribution software for any platform and it has created this whole Sales trend. Then we have the flash games and all the casual Facebook games which I would be has more people playing than any platform alone.
The PC is just fine, the strongest platform out there and brings in the most revenue. The only difference is people tend to think of game sales just being retail box copies. Also lets not forget the fact that people who pirate media buy more media than people who don't, they just cannot afford to buy everything because it is their hobby and it would become so expensive. For example my friend buys all his games on his Xbox 360 but he's only bought 2-3 games this year and he doesn't know how to torrent, where as I torrent every game to try it out, yet I've bought over 20 games on Steam alone this year and some how I'm labeled as a pirate. Most of my friends torrent games and again they all buy far more games than any other group of gamer I know of.
So please put that piracy bull**** argument away, it was old 5 years ago and it's even older now.
Lets not forget the PC mod and indie scene has produced some of the best developers out there today. When a developer tries to deal with Microsoft or Sony they have to go through all these legal and restriction issues with them and wait around for ages. When their games are released they hardly get any coverage and are forgotten quickly. I think you'll find indie developers find far more success on Steam or even their own sites like Minecraft or Project Zomboid.
Start using bing rewards. you earn points for searching with bing, and you can use those points & redeem them for MS points, amazon $$, Starbucks, and now you can use them to but wp8 apps/games. This is better that pirating because you get updates on time, and if its an xboz game you can get achievements.
Venekor said:
The PC is just fine, the strongest platform out there and brings in the most revenue. The only difference is people tend to think of game sales just being retail box copies. Also lets not forget the fact that people who pirate media buy more media than people who don't, they just cannot afford to buy everything because it is their hobby and it would become so expensive. For example my friend buys all his games on his Xbox 360 but he's only bought 2-3 games this year and he doesn't know how to torrent, where as I torrent every game to try it out, yet I've bought over 20 games on Steam alone this year and some how I'm labeled as a pirate. Most of my friends torrent games and again they all buy far more games than any other group of gamer I know of.
So please put that piracy bull**** argument away, it was old 5 years ago and it's even older now.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You will not get people here to agree with you that it would be great to pirate software. Most games on WP7 and WP8 have a Trial-Mode anyway that allows you to play the start of the game to check if it would be interesting to you - actually ALL XBox Live titles in the Marketplace have that.
Aside from that your price argument falls to pieces really quickly in the Smartphone sector given that most games don't cost more then 3$. That's less then you pay for a beer at a bar. We're not talking about expensive Software here. Piracy is especially bad for small developers, given that they don't earn much to begin with.
Modding is a completely different topic that does not have too much to do with piracy. Many games actually have their own APIs available to allow for those extensions. This has nothing to do with unlicensed copying.
It always amazes me to see people buy phones for $ 600 and then get annoyed when they are told they should shell out $ 1 - 3 for a game every once in a while.
I plan to switch to simple mobile, and im eyeballing the 920. i could care less about pirating windows app but i would like to know if there is any form of emulator apps, or perhaps a way to sideload those like you can in android?
my concern regarding pricing is fairly simple, on android i can get angry birds for free, pay 99 cents and get adfree versions. on iOS its 99 cents, with windows devices you pay 5 bucks and it doesnt seem like its updated nearly as often. im only using this as an example i wont be bother to play angry birds, wheres my water is much better . i wont pirate the apps that arent IMO worth while but i sure as hell wont buy em either.
and before anyone comments on if im cheap or not etc, ive spent at least 80 bucks on various android apps the most expensive one being 7 bucks for a fairly useful app
As was already stated above: there is no sideloading on WP8 unless you have a company certificate or have your device developer unlocked. There have been homebrew Emulators for WP7 but given that the inclusion of ROMs would have been a violation of the ROM-owners copyrights those Emulators were not allowed in the Marketplace.
Angry Birds btw. is 99 Cents at the moment in the Marketplace. Some months ago they dropped the prices on several XBox Live games. Indie games have regularly been at the 99 Cent price point even before that.
Nobody takes issue with people saying they won't pay for an App they don't enjoy and just won't use it for that reason. The problem is that there are many people around that say they won't buy into a phone because it is so expensive by itself and they don't want to pay for the Apps they use on it for that reason.
interesting, why would they have included roms? with teh android versions you download the app and put the files on your sdcard. and thats what i was wondering more about, i have a dreamspark account due to my student status and i believe at the time it allowed you to unlock your wp7 device?
i havent truly looked throught any of teh marketplace and ive only loaded up my recent install of win8 and saw angry birds space was 5 bucks, which suits me fine i have plenty of those kind of "smartphone" games on my tablet. im more interested in getting better quality xbox live enabled games, those im willing to drop the money on
i think its actually a valid point, i mean im fairly vested into android and for me to uproot and switch OS' means that day one after i drop x amount of dollars on a new device if i want any of teh apps that i used to have back i have to go and repurchase them all. thanks for all the info, as i dont really know a whole lot about wp8
shabbypenguin said:
interesting, why would they have included roms? with teh android versions you download the app and put the files on your sdcard. and thats what i was wondering more about, i have a dreamspark account due to my student status and i believe at the time it allowed you to unlock your wp7 device?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You still get one year of Dev Center membership for free with your Dreamspark Account. They would have had to include the ROMs given that there were no exchangeable SD-Cards or an accessible Filesystem in WP7.

Categories

Resources