I was already posting in this thread, but i think this problem is more general.
short summary:
My battery lasts max 8 hrs without heavy use.
I've installed spare parts, and also checked the battery usage in the bootloader screen.
It turns out that most of the network usage is caused by "1013" when i try to get more info, bootloader screen doesn't tell, and spare parts crashes.
Theres also 1010, but this doesn't use much network
Does anyone know which process this is, and how to turn it off, or prevent it from using network and battery?
I've not rooted my device (yet) so please take that into account.
thx!
dial:-
*#*#4636#*#*
then go to battery history
then go to the first drop down and select "network usage"
Enjoy
Thx for your response but that's the exact same overview as spare parts gives me. Its also listed as 1013 on there btw
must be something you've installed :/ not sure anyone will know what it is, it it was routed you may be able to get a deeper insight, but if you don't want to I'd suggesting removing any apps you can think of that it might be until it stops. 'fraid that's all I can suggest.
yeah, i already was going that road,
I do want to root it, but only after i know for certain this device is rocksolid and no need to send it back to HTC because of dust or whatever reason
The battery usage thing happened once for me and I'm pretty sure it was just a program that failed to go to sleep properly. Reboot fixed it just fine and haven't seen it since.
I use SDK ddms to find out which app was hogging my batt I went from 12 hrs to 48 hrs I charged my phone fri and its just now at 23%. stock mms would not let my phone sleep.
gtrplr71 said:
I use SDK ddms to find out which app was hogging my batt I went from 12 hrs to 48 hrs I charged my phone fri and its just now at 23%. stock mms would not let my phone sleep.
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Can you give some details on how to find this out? What to look for in ddms? All I know how to do with ddms is take screenshots
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
I am having this same exact problem and I cant seem to find out what is causing it either. Maybe we can make a list of what apps we have installed and try to pinpoint it? Any other findings please update
Apps Ive installed
Code:
Advanced task killer free
ak notepad
appinstaller
artfulbits aiminesweeper
astro
backgrounds
calculator
chess
unit converter
compass
dolphin browser
enjoy daily sudoku
gameboid lite
gbcoid lite
googles
google pinyin
gtasks
handcent
hi aim
home++
jewllust lite
magicmarker
mahjong
meridian
mobile defense
t mobile my account
pinball
radiant lite
shazam
shop savvy
snake
spare parks
speed test
weather bug
Is 1013 the process ID? Try running a 'ps' from terminal and seeing.
Zephyron said:
I am having this same exact problem and I cant seem to find out what is causing it either. Maybe we can make a list of what apps we have installed and try to pinpoint it? Any other findings please update
Apps Ive installed
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Is there a way to quickly output all apps installed to a text file without root?
no i just went into my app page and typed it all out :/
gtrplr71 said:
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
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Unfortunately, my PC isn't in my bedroom I thought it was like a diagnostics tool or something. Like a better version of the Battery History app already on the phone.
gtrplr71 said:
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
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when i mount then start ddms it doesnt show my device?
Zephyron said:
when i mount then start ddms it doesnt show my device?
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Don't mount when using ddms. Just plug in phone to PC and leave it.
(Make sure Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB Debugging is turned on before you plug into PC)
Apps i've got installed now which don't cause 1013 popping up:
Code:
apkInstaller
Better Keyboard
Colorflashlight
Compass
Explorer
Goggles
Google Maps
Jewels
Language Pack
Layar
Morelicale
Nu.nl
Quick Settings
Remoid RDP
Shazam
Solitaire
Spare Parts
Wikitude
These apps i've deleted yesterday (a couple more but can't remember)
Code:
Het weer
Speed Test
Snesoid
Weather bug
@Zephyron
Common apps are Speed Test and Weather bug
Speedtest might be it, offc it uses lots of traffic if it keeps running, don't know for sure offcourse, but uninstall it and reboot to see if it fixes things.
@bofslime, i didnt root (yet) so can't run a terminal
My downloaded apps:
Android Terminal Emulator
AnyCut
Battery Indicator
BeamReader PDF Viewer Trial
Bezier - Live Wallpaper
Button Shortcut
CNET Audio by Mediafly
Contact Owner
Digital Clock Widget
Digital Rain - Live Wallpaper
Dolphin Browser
Duck Paper
Earth Live Wallpaper
Fireworks Live Wallpaper
Google Maps
Google Translate
Google Voice
GPS Tracker
KeePassDroid
Linda File Manager 1.4.1
Lines - Live Wallpaper
Magnify
Movies
Multitouch Gallery
NewsRob
Reader Widget Free
SK Sync Client
Slacker Radio
Starfield 3D Live Wallpaper
TasKiller Free
Text Edit
Text-To-Speech Extended
ToggleWifi
Twidgit Lite
paul, do you also get this 1013 process using your network?
i would really like to say its weather bug, but it seems like paul doesnt have it installed nor does he have speed test..
I did two days ago and lost 8% in one night.
I think 1013 is something related to Android System... I killed all running apps with TasKiller last night and did not get any issues. When I woke up this morning, my battery had not lost a single % of power.
I also googled 1013 android and it looks like no one else has ever posted about it on the internet, so the idea that it's something within Android sounds even more likely.
Basically I had 100% at 9am
at 1130 am I had 28% and this is without doing hardly anything.
I then put data packet mode off and airplane mode on -- and it lasted 2 hours without draining.
Therefore I know all the drain is due to some background apps.
Is there any tips, tricks, etc. to stop this drain ? like stop synching etc.
This battery drain is brutal!
Find the culprit ?
Install some app monitoring app like system panel and check?
You already know its something that needs internet. So check all your apps when they are syncing and how often. Check in some task manager of running app/services , cpu usage/network use, everything what should be dormant and its active. (or just check in the apps you ran if there isnt a circle running thats suggesting that app is doing something )
Oh one thing is not using skype and install adfree
PAGOT said:
Find the culprit ?
Install some app monitoring app like system panel and check?
You already know its something that needs internet. So check all your apps when they are syncing and how often. Check in some task manager of running app/services , cpu usage/network use, everything what should be dormant and its active. (or just check in the apps you ran if there isnt a circle running thats suggesting that app is doing something )
Oh one thing is not using skype and install adfree
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I haven't found it yet - what apps would you specifically advise to use ? I have hotmail, google, and facebook on "sync" mode -- maybe I'll take that off and see if it works.
Other than that, I don't have hardly anything running that I can see -- WIFI and GPS is always off. I use a task killer on "INSANE" that closes apps constantly and everytime the screen goes off so I'm not sure what could be running.
Funkadelick said:
I haven't found it yet - what apps would you specifically advise to use ? I have hotmail, google, and facebook on "sync" mode -- maybe I'll take that off and see if it works.
Other than that, I don't have hardly anything running that I can see -- WIFI and GPS is always off. I use a task killer on "INSANE" that closes apps constantly and everytime the screen goes off so I'm not sure what could be running.
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It can be:
- a weak network (2G/3G) constatly switching.
- Gallery bug
- File system errors
take a look on what "suck" your CPU time.
Install Better terminal:
/ $ su (enter)
#top (enter)
And watch & report.
ttf said:
It can be:
- a weak network (2G/3G) constatly switching.
- Gallery bug
- File system errors
take a look on what "suck" your CPU time.
Install Better terminal:
/ $ su (enter)
#top (enter)
And watch & report.
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Awesome advice. I will go do that now and report back soon. Cheers
ttf said:
It can be:
- a weak network (2G/3G) constatly switching.
- Gallery bug
- File system errors
take a look on what "suck" your CPU time.
Install Better terminal:
/ $ su (enter)
#top (enter)
And watch & report.
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what am i looking for exactly
I have this thing running
it's soooooooo choppy -- how do I stop it so I can analyze the data lol
i usually plug my phone into the computer and use adb logcat to see whats going on, i usually find the culprit that way
My battery Life sucks as well. These are the culpruts at the moment.
Voice Calls 17%
Display 17%
GPSD 17%
Maps 14%
Cell Standby 10%
Wi-Fi- 8%
TIKL 7%
Phone Idle 4%
Facebook 4%
Android Os 3%
Android System 3%
My thoughts are that is location based services such as google weather widget. I have disabled Latitude and the weather widget set to 6hr refresh. I should mention this is on a Galaxy i9000M running CM7 03122011.
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
Update #1:
-Coming soon!
Test #1:
Using the above information in post #1 I was able to get 32 Hours 15 Min (1 d 8 h 14 m 54 s) with 6 Hours Screen On Time! Check screen shots below for the proof, and comment below to the awesomeness! I will be doing a new test with the updates coming to the OP!
Test Subject:
-Check the attached BetterBatteryStats log for complete info!
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
-ROM: [NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
can you post up some screen shots of your battery life / stats?
I'm on stock, rooted, bloat is frozen. I'm using grernify for games and other apps I don't use regularly or don't rely on for push notifications. I use adaway for ad blocking.
with just those steps taken, and using the phone as a smartphone, I can easily get 20+ hours off charger and a screen use of 5 hours.
I understand what you're trying to do here but what is the point of diminishing returns?
I have gotten around the 18 hour mark, but out of the box I was only getting around 12. I will try getting an accurate screenshot and try out a few other settings. Our batteries may vary slightly I'm sure, and at some point I bet there are diminishing returns like with underclocking. I will test it out and report back
Thanks for the input @Russ77
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Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
kalans said:
Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
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Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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GDofWR420 said:
Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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+1
I'm at 4 hours 17 minutes screen use and have 42% battery remaining. I'll easily surpass 7 hours of screen use and probably 20 hours total battery.
when idle on mobile signal my phone consumes about 1%/hr. if I wasn't playing couch potato today (its 107 outside) and was doing stuff I'd use around 6 hours of screen time and could go 30 hours total battery time.
this is all with no battery saving measures taken other than greenifying all banking and game apps.
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.."
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Yes, to play devil's advocate here:
The apps and tweaks are going to make some difference, but it's more about how you use your phone, rather than doing a bunch of tweaks and modifications, which many of us have done at some point or another (the same tweaks but maybe with different apps and Roms).
I've seen posts around here talking about getting 3 and 4 days average, and sometimes 5 days of battery, and I always say that's because you all don't use your phone that much.
It's all about how you use your phone. I only get up to 48 hours with moderate use; that's terrible battery life by the standards around here; and with heavy use, with my brightness cranked up because I like my colors pretty and bright, and with consistently playing games all day, I'm only getting about 4 and a half hours screen on time. That battery life might be 7 hours or 2 full days, depending on how much else I'm doing with the phone.
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
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kalans said:
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-G900A using XDA Free mobile app
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Oh, I don't doubt the 54 hours battery life. Like I said, the apps and tweaks are going to make some difference. But it all depends on how you use your phone. I'm not going to get 54 hours battery, even if I use your phone because of what I do. I'm playing games, or streaming radio, or watching movies or Youtube, and that's not all day, and with my screen bright.
Just me personally, I don't like to worry too much about how much battery life I'm getting. When I start doing that, then I find myself going out my way and doing things different (such as frequently checking the battery stats and stretching the phone's downtime) like I would not normally do, trying to see how much battery that I can actually get, instead of just enjoying the phone as I would normally use it.
When I had my old HTC Evo a few years back, I was doing everything that you're doing, and then some (as you can find several of these threads for every phone), trying to get every little ounce of juice that I could out that miserable battery. Same type apps and Roms, just different names. I had apps that turned off Wifi, data, bluetooth, and even crashed the phone once in a while. I actually got used to turning my screen brightness all the way down so that I could barely see anything. And it was great having a Rom so de-bloated, that I got a chance to find out what was missing when I got lost driving and needed directions. Yeah, it made a difference in the battery all right.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I would Recommend you to use Hibernate App no need of root
Hibernate App
Running @cstayton bo3 Kool kit active rom and have phenomenal battery life. No spare apps here. Turned on power save mode at 18%.
Watched two episodes of dexter, a little over half an hour on dead space, 4 short phone calls, a hand full of text and a few hours on the Web and using the xda app.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I was/am having some issue importing the events for Llama I was wondering if I am doing something wrong or...? Is there a specific way of importing it?
Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
daltonhrrll said:
Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
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1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
shortydoggg said:
1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
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How many cores does it under clock
Hey all - weird situation here. For the last few days or so my battery has been draining *really* fast and the phone is very warm. Yesterday I went to the battery settings to see what the culprit was and it was an Amazon app that I *never* open - so I disabled it. Same thing today. This time:
17% - Android OS
12% Amazon app suite
12% Email
11% DJI Go, a drone-control app.
I haven't opened anything Amazon ever (bloatware) or DJI GO in at least a month. How are apps I'm not even opening draining my battery? They're not running - at least not that I can see in the task manager. And e-mail? Nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm grateful for any theories as to exactly what the crap is going on with my beloved phone!!
thetastycat said:
Hey all - weird situation here. For the last few days or so my battery has been draining *really* fast and the phone is very warm. Yesterday I went to the battery settings to see what the culprit was and it was an Amazon app that I *never* open - so I disabled it. Same thing today. This time:
17% - Android OS
12% Amazon app suite
12% Email
11% DJI Go, a drone-control app.
I haven't opened anything Amazon ever (bloatware) or DJI GO in at least a month. How are apps I'm not even opening draining my battery? They're not running - at least not that I can see in the task manager. And e-mail? Nothing out of the ordinary.
I'm grateful for any theories as to exactly what the crap is going on with my beloved phone!!
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Let's talk about that disabling in a minute. I'm confused about that. First, however...
Some apps run in the background even though you have not manually opened them or are using them. The developers do this so they will open VERY FAST when you do click on them and they don't care your battery is being used. This is why I use Greenify -- I can put almost all apps like that into forced hibernation. IF/when I ever do use the apps, I click, they open. When I close them, Greenify puts them back into hibernation. (I don't use the Xposed version of Greenify, just the Greenify app.)
Obviously you don't want to Greenify something like your email app, weather widget, Facebook or anything that needs to be running in the background so you can get notifications. The apps you Greenify are the apps which like to run in the background even though you are not using them.
By any chance are you using Amazon photos backup service? I do. It's like Dropbox or Google Photos backup service. Photos and videos you take are uploaded for backup. If you have that turned on, that could be why Amazon stuff is still running? Just a guess.
Now, you say you disabled Amazon? How? Freezing it through Titanium Backup? Because if you froze it, there's no way it should be running at all. Which is why Greenify is better than freezing in most cases. I only TB freeze something which may need to by physically present for my OS to run correctly but which I do not want to run. There's some redundant CM ROM apps I freeze, as I don't want to take a chance on physically removing them, only to find out stuff crashes because it was important in some way I didn't realize. Freezing totally disables the app, and it won't even show up in your app drawer. If you unfreeze it, then it's there again. So, how did you disable it?
Chazz, you seriously are a real life superhero of my phone. You helped me get my GF a Maxx a few months ago - man, thank you so much!
Yeah, so I "disabled" some of these apps by actually trying to uninstall them (like Amazon), realizing they're bloatware, and instead dragging the icon up to "App info", where I have the option to force-stop or "disable" - whatever that is.
Here are a few screenshots from today:
So Android OS, Email, and Amazon app suite, none of which I've spent any real time on using, are having a race to see who can meaninglessly drain my battery the fastest. DJI GO, which again I haven't opened in a month, comes in at a distant 4th. I barely used my phone today except for about an hour of Pandora and maybe 30 mins of browsing.
Greenify - gotcha! Downloaded it and trying to kill some of this stuff - but nothing Amazon even appears in the listing of all apps. And email? What the heck? I can't really lock my e-mail out. It's just so strange that apps that I'm not even using are the ones draining the battery - any chance this could be a virus? Last I was paying attention, that wasn't much of a concern on Android...have I just had my head in the sand?
Many thanks again - I really appreciate the help!
In Greenify app, hit the "+" sign (on upper right of the app display) and it will show you more apps you can hibernate. I have over 200 apps, so I actually had to hit the "+" sign a couple of times to see the complete list. I think the initial offering is the low-hanging fruit.
For instance it will show my my Flashlight app. Right. I don't need my flashlight app running unless I am actually using my flashlight! So, I "greenify" it. It hibernates until I open the app. Once I close the app, THEN it goes back into hibernation until I need it again.
Right, you shouldn't lock lock out email. Is that personal email or work? I notice it's not Gmail. What are your fetch settings on that app? I have mine set for every 5 minutes. On my work email, it's an Exchange push server based so it's instant, but on my personal email (not Gmail), I have the IMAP fetch settings for 5 minutes. On some email apps you can even set fetch/check for every 30 seconds. That's a lot of pinging and could be draining the battery. Just a guess.
Seems to be working great, Chazz - thank you so much!!!