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I was already posting in this thread, but i think this problem is more general.
short summary:
My battery lasts max 8 hrs without heavy use.
I've installed spare parts, and also checked the battery usage in the bootloader screen.
It turns out that most of the network usage is caused by "1013" when i try to get more info, bootloader screen doesn't tell, and spare parts crashes.
Theres also 1010, but this doesn't use much network
Does anyone know which process this is, and how to turn it off, or prevent it from using network and battery?
I've not rooted my device (yet) so please take that into account.
thx!
dial:-
*#*#4636#*#*
then go to battery history
then go to the first drop down and select "network usage"
Enjoy
Thx for your response but that's the exact same overview as spare parts gives me. Its also listed as 1013 on there btw
must be something you've installed :/ not sure anyone will know what it is, it it was routed you may be able to get a deeper insight, but if you don't want to I'd suggesting removing any apps you can think of that it might be until it stops. 'fraid that's all I can suggest.
yeah, i already was going that road,
I do want to root it, but only after i know for certain this device is rocksolid and no need to send it back to HTC because of dust or whatever reason
The battery usage thing happened once for me and I'm pretty sure it was just a program that failed to go to sleep properly. Reboot fixed it just fine and haven't seen it since.
I use SDK ddms to find out which app was hogging my batt I went from 12 hrs to 48 hrs I charged my phone fri and its just now at 23%. stock mms would not let my phone sleep.
gtrplr71 said:
I use SDK ddms to find out which app was hogging my batt I went from 12 hrs to 48 hrs I charged my phone fri and its just now at 23%. stock mms would not let my phone sleep.
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Can you give some details on how to find this out? What to look for in ddms? All I know how to do with ddms is take screenshots
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
I am having this same exact problem and I cant seem to find out what is causing it either. Maybe we can make a list of what apps we have installed and try to pinpoint it? Any other findings please update
Apps Ive installed
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Advanced task killer free
ak notepad
appinstaller
artfulbits aiminesweeper
astro
backgrounds
calculator
chess
unit converter
compass
dolphin browser
enjoy daily sudoku
gameboid lite
gbcoid lite
googles
google pinyin
gtasks
handcent
hi aim
home++
jewllust lite
magicmarker
mahjong
meridian
mobile defense
t mobile my account
pinball
radiant lite
shazam
shop savvy
snake
spare parks
speed test
weather bug
Is 1013 the process ID? Try running a 'ps' from terminal and seeing.
Zephyron said:
I am having this same exact problem and I cant seem to find out what is causing it either. Maybe we can make a list of what apps we have installed and try to pinpoint it? Any other findings please update
Apps Ive installed
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Is there a way to quickly output all apps installed to a text file without root?
no i just went into my app page and typed it all out :/
gtrplr71 said:
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
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Unfortunately, my PC isn't in my bedroom I thought it was like a diagnostics tool or something. Like a better version of the Battery History app already on the phone.
gtrplr71 said:
it is in the same little box you take pics in plug the phone mount and start sdk go to ddms click on you device and in the box on the botom you will see what sevices and apps are reaching out to the network. leave the phone mounted put your phone to sleep and whatch the box you will see the activities as they happen I watched weather widgets and the stock MMS suck the life out of my battery
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when i mount then start ddms it doesnt show my device?
Zephyron said:
when i mount then start ddms it doesnt show my device?
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Don't mount when using ddms. Just plug in phone to PC and leave it.
(Make sure Settings -> Applications -> Development -> USB Debugging is turned on before you plug into PC)
Apps i've got installed now which don't cause 1013 popping up:
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apkInstaller
Better Keyboard
Colorflashlight
Compass
Explorer
Goggles
Google Maps
Jewels
Language Pack
Layar
Morelicale
Nu.nl
Quick Settings
Remoid RDP
Shazam
Solitaire
Spare Parts
Wikitude
These apps i've deleted yesterday (a couple more but can't remember)
Code:
Het weer
Speed Test
Snesoid
Weather bug
@Zephyron
Common apps are Speed Test and Weather bug
Speedtest might be it, offc it uses lots of traffic if it keeps running, don't know for sure offcourse, but uninstall it and reboot to see if it fixes things.
@bofslime, i didnt root (yet) so can't run a terminal
My downloaded apps:
Android Terminal Emulator
AnyCut
Battery Indicator
BeamReader PDF Viewer Trial
Bezier - Live Wallpaper
Button Shortcut
CNET Audio by Mediafly
Contact Owner
Digital Clock Widget
Digital Rain - Live Wallpaper
Dolphin Browser
Duck Paper
Earth Live Wallpaper
Fireworks Live Wallpaper
Google Maps
Google Translate
Google Voice
GPS Tracker
KeePassDroid
Linda File Manager 1.4.1
Lines - Live Wallpaper
Magnify
Movies
Multitouch Gallery
NewsRob
Reader Widget Free
SK Sync Client
Slacker Radio
Starfield 3D Live Wallpaper
TasKiller Free
Text Edit
Text-To-Speech Extended
ToggleWifi
Twidgit Lite
paul, do you also get this 1013 process using your network?
i would really like to say its weather bug, but it seems like paul doesnt have it installed nor does he have speed test..
I did two days ago and lost 8% in one night.
I think 1013 is something related to Android System... I killed all running apps with TasKiller last night and did not get any issues. When I woke up this morning, my battery had not lost a single % of power.
I also googled 1013 android and it looks like no one else has ever posted about it on the internet, so the idea that it's something within Android sounds even more likely.
Which task killer apps will give more battery life for Galaxy Note. AutoKiller or Advanced Task Killer or what? i am ready to pay
musheercmr said:
Which task killer apps will give more battery life for Galaxy Note. AutoKiller or Advanced Task Killer or what? i am ready to pay
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If you want a good battery life, DON'T use a task killer!
Technoholik said:
If you want a good battery life, DON'T use a task killer!
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Wow, interesting answer!!! Is that true guys?
Use Autorun to block all those pesky CPU cycle-munching rogue apps from ever starting!
Have to have root unfortunately, as only by blocking the listeners (or even freezing useless apps) can you stop them. Technoholik is correct, using a task killer will waste far more battery than it saves as these apps will pop up again minutes, or even seconds, later.
jeromepearce said:
Use Autorun to block all those pesky CPU cycle-munching rogue apps from ever starting!
Have to have root unfortunately, as only by blocking the listeners (or even freezing useless apps) can you stop them. Technoholik is correct, using a task killer will waste far more battery than it saves as these apps will pop up again minutes, or even seconds, later.
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So, if i removed some apps (like Google Map, Google Voice...etc) from start-up, once i open those application after sometime it will be again in process and will drink battery, till the next re-start? advise please...
Sorry for my stupid question.
musheercmr said:
Wow, interesting answer!!! Is that true guys?
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You can read more about why task killer is not recommended in here:
www.lifehacker.com/5650894/android-task-killers-explained-what-they-do-and-why-you-shouldnt-use-them
musheercmr said:
So, if i removed some apps (like Google Map, Google Voice...etc) from start-up, once i open those application after sometime it will be again in process and will drink battery, till the next re-start? advise please...
Sorry for my stupid question.
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What you should worry is cpu cycle, not memory used by the apps. Some process maybe look like use some memory in background eventhough you're not use that process, but that's ok if that process not use much cpu cycle.
Please read the link i just posted before.
musheercmr said:
So, if i removed some apps (like Google Map, Google Voice...etc) from start-up, once i open those application after sometime it will be again in process and will drink battery, till the next re-start? advise please...
Sorry for my stupid question.
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Not a stupid question, and the answer is "Yes". Many of these apps keep responding to 'listeners' (events in the system) and do things that we have not asked them to do when they receive this trigger. Many of them send & receive data. You cannot stop them apart from disabling the listeners of freezing ()or uninstalling) them. You need to be careful because some system apps are required. I try one at a time and if nothing else fails, leave it disabled.
Do do any of this, you require root access.
Look at Badass Battery Monitor and use the appsucker tool to see what is doing what. It shows the % CPU, CPU time, wake events and wakelocks. All of these are things that drain the battery.
great, I uninstalled the task manager and works good
I used green power from the market and it worked pretty well. It simply turns off your wifi and other services when you are not using it. It's free and worth a try.
i use juice defender...
I use Tasker and Synker and set profiles to automate certain processes. Ive turned auto sync off, and set a profle to sync my google and facebook account at certain times duirng the day, eg, every hour between 8am and 11pm. Another profile that activates when my phone is placed face down turns off 3g data, wifi and the screen.
DocSoton said:
Another profile that activates when my phone is placed face down turns off 3g data, wifi and the screen.
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Sweet!
Sorry For making another Battery Thread But I'm getting more than 65% in use of the Android System on the Battery
But i Saw this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013469&highlight=android+system&page=4
And then this under the same topic
- Flashed V10F EUR OPEN
- Rooted (follow the guide!)
- Factory Reset
- Updated SuperSU + binary
- Reboot
- Installed Titanium Backup Root Pro
- Re-installed my backed up apps (no mods, no root apps yet!)
- Reboot
- Installed CWM, GPS mod, Camera mod (follow the guides!)
- Reboot
- Uninstalled most of the apps in the Application Manager from LG; SmartWorld, Today+, ...
- Freezed the following apps with Titanium Backup Root Pro:
Quote: - Alarm/Clock
- Application Manager
- Calculator
- Calender
- Calender Widget
- Cell Broadcast
- Chrome
- Downloads
- E-mail
- E-mail Widget
- Face Unlock
- Favorite Contacts Widget
- Finance
- Google+
- Internet
- Media Home
- Memo
- Memo Widget
- Messaging
- Music Player 3.
- Music Player 2.
- MusicFX
- News
- On-Screen Phone
- Remote Support Service
- Remote Call Service
- SIM Toolkit
- Smart Log Service
- SmartShare
- Social+
- Streaming Player
- Tags
- Talk
- Video Player
- Voice Recorder
- Voice Search
- Weather
- Reboot
- Installed Memory Booster (paid version)
- Installed my other root apps: CPUTuner, Autostart Manager, SDMaid
Quote: - In Autostart Manager I disabled most of the apps I don't want to start after a boot, so I filtered the 'Boot Completed' enablers. And disabled all those unnecessary.
- In CPUTuner I use an Uniform configuration with 2 Triggers (battery 100% and battery 50%). I have 6 Profiles with different CPU clock speeds, governors, I/O, ... settings. If you want details about those I can add them at request.
- Reboot
- Clean-up the device a bit with SDMaid, optimize the databases
- Reboot
- Reboot into Recovery Mode, Wipe the Dalvick Cache
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And I did flashed and rooted, but didn't Restore to Factory, also i did upgrade SuperSU and istalled the CWM and then Deleted Dalvik and Paritition cache files
What i wanted to ask, is that after all this should i make a factory reset? if not should i UnInstall only the LG programs and then freeze all the other apps?
Am asking this because it seems alot for me having 70-80% on the Android System usage for the battery
Edit: IDK, for example i consume alot of Battery just for using facebook and the music player, but it's not fair that in my ipod i don't use more than 5% and on the 4x i used 20%
or consuming(airplanemode) even if im not uisng it
Hopefully one day our Mods on here will just take all these threads and roll them into one.
STOP OPENING THREADS ABOUT BATTERY USE!!!
We know there are some problems with it. Solutions have been posted that may help some people. We don't need every person who owns an LG 4X opening s thread to complain about the battery :banghead:
SimonTS said:
Hopefully one day our Mods on here will just take all these threads and roll them into one.
STOP OPENING THREADS ABOUT BATTERY USE!!!
We know there are some problems with it. Solutions have been posted that may help some people. We don't need every person who owns an LG 4X opening s thread to complain about the battery :banghead:
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Sorry, but i can't resolve it on my own, and i can't figure it out why i have this problem while other people already fixed it.
Edit: I did a fabric restore and then downloaded GSAM Battery Monitor and it shoed that Android System is using 99% of my battery
In the Easy Battery Saver it says that the Adroid System uses 80% of my charge... And i don't have any apps installed
And in my Battery Settings the Android System is always on 66%-75%, Should i install a custom ROM?
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Sorry, but i can't resolve it on my own, and i can't figure it out why i have this problem while other people already fixed it.
Edit: I did a fabric restore and then downloaded GSAM Battery Monitor and it shoed that Android System is using 99% of my battery
In the Easy Battery Saver it says that the Adroid System uses 80% of my charge... And i don't have any apps installed
And in my Battery Settings the Android System is always on 66%-75%, Should i install a custom ROM?
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If you don't know, Android System includes:
--Settings
--SystemBackupService
--com.lge.internal
--VpnDialogs
--Smart Log Service
--System Interface
--LGSetupWizard
--Image Updater
--com.android.providers.settings
--Android System
--Key Chain
--com.lge.lockscreen
--Shutdown Monitor
--LGSystemServer
--Task Manager
--LG MLT
--Google Backup Transport
--com.lge.hiddenmenu
--LocMgrProvider
--LockScreenSettings
--Home Selector
--Camera Test
As you can see, its not an app but several, its normal that they are in the top of usage list.
That depends also how you use your phone.
Some of them can be frozen, search in other threads and you'll find a list or screen shots of my frozen apps (if you're interested of course...)
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If you don't know, Android System includes:
--Settings
--SystemBackupService
--com.lge.internal
--VpnDialogs
--Smart Log Service
--System Interface
--LGSetupWizard
--Image Updater
--com.android.providers.settings
--Android System
--Key Chain
--com.lge.lockscreen
--Shutdown Monitor
--LGSystemServer
--Task Manager
--LG MLT
--Google Backup Transport
--com.lge.hiddenmenu
--LocMgrProvider
--LockScreenSettings
--Home Selector
--Camera Test
As you can see, its not an app but several, its normal that they are in the top of usage list.
That depends also how you use your phone.
Some of them can be frozen, search in other threads and you'll find a list or screen shots of my frozen apps (if you're interested of course...)
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Thx for responding, seriously :laugh:
Umm but im not using my phone, I restored it from fabric, and i don't have anything, I'm using wifi and airplane mode, 0% brightness and the Android System at 70%
Also do i need to buy Titanium Backup to freeze them?
Edit: How much is your Android System % at??
On my samsung galaxy s ll my battery get very very hot screen gets hot I have to pull the battery out for a few mins then its ok. This happen about 3 times out of the week my brother had told me that my phone might be hacked and thats why its was doing that along with some other crazy things lol
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Necromancer077 said:
Thx for responding, seriously :laugh:
Umm but im not using my phone, I restored it from fabric, and i don't have anything, I'm using wifi and airplane mode, 0% brightness and the Android System at 70%
Also do i need to buy Titanium Backup to freeze them?
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70% because once your not using other apps, is logic that those that you use are in the top.
Some of them run in background, thats the reason to freeze them.
RuedasLocas said:
70% because once your not using other apps, is logic that those that you use are in the top.
Some of them run in background, thats the reason to freeze them.
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Ok, i'll try that app,
Sound logic when im no using anything the System is on top of that,but it's been always like that, even if im playing GTA vice city or just isng facebook,
But i'll try to freeze those apps, and delete the LG ones
Like this guy over here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2013469
um did you had this problem before?
I didn't had that problem cause it was one of the first things that I took care about since I have the phone
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RuedasLocas said:
I didn't had that problem cause it was one of the first things that I took care about since I have the phone
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Well thanx for all the help,
I managed to Lower that 70% to a 35-30%
Now is under my phone idle (Hope it's good news)
Also i'll start to use the gearbox in EcoMode to use only the main cores
Install the battery fix http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1933099
and tomorrow i'll delete the dalvick cache :3
Also i think i put my expectations too high.. i mean it's a 4core-4.7 inch Smarthphone :9, XD alot different from my last S.E.X(Xperia)
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
Update #1:
-Coming soon!
Test #1:
Using the above information in post #1 I was able to get 32 Hours 15 Min (1 d 8 h 14 m 54 s) with 6 Hours Screen On Time! Check screen shots below for the proof, and comment below to the awesomeness! I will be doing a new test with the updates coming to the OP!
Test Subject:
-Check the attached BetterBatteryStats log for complete info!
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
-ROM: [NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
can you post up some screen shots of your battery life / stats?
I'm on stock, rooted, bloat is frozen. I'm using grernify for games and other apps I don't use regularly or don't rely on for push notifications. I use adaway for ad blocking.
with just those steps taken, and using the phone as a smartphone, I can easily get 20+ hours off charger and a screen use of 5 hours.
I understand what you're trying to do here but what is the point of diminishing returns?
I have gotten around the 18 hour mark, but out of the box I was only getting around 12. I will try getting an accurate screenshot and try out a few other settings. Our batteries may vary slightly I'm sure, and at some point I bet there are diminishing returns like with underclocking. I will test it out and report back
Thanks for the input @Russ77
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Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
kalans said:
Updated! I was able to get 32h 15m battery life with 6h of screen on time! @Russ77 @GDofWR420 @UnhoIy
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Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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Can't put this thing down. Battery is great, I'm always on it and get almost 7 hours screen time before I throw it on the charger. For me I keep the screen on the lower setting with auto turned off and screen set to dynamic for that deep, bold color.
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+1
I'm at 4 hours 17 minutes screen use and have 42% battery remaining. I'll easily surpass 7 hours of screen use and probably 20 hours total battery.
when idle on mobile signal my phone consumes about 1%/hr. if I wasn't playing couch potato today (its 107 outside) and was doing stuff I'd use around 6 hours of screen time and could go 30 hours total battery time.
this is all with no battery saving measures taken other than greenifying all banking and game apps.
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.."
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Yes, to play devil's advocate here:
The apps and tweaks are going to make some difference, but it's more about how you use your phone, rather than doing a bunch of tweaks and modifications, which many of us have done at some point or another (the same tweaks but maybe with different apps and Roms).
I've seen posts around here talking about getting 3 and 4 days average, and sometimes 5 days of battery, and I always say that's because you all don't use your phone that much.
It's all about how you use your phone. I only get up to 48 hours with moderate use; that's terrible battery life by the standards around here; and with heavy use, with my brightness cranked up because I like my colors pretty and bright, and with consistently playing games all day, I'm only getting about 4 and a half hours screen on time. That battery life might be 7 hours or 2 full days, depending on how much else I'm doing with the phone.
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
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kalans said:
I love how I posted this thread to help others but instead it is just getting people to post about the opposite.. I just got 54+ hours out of the OEM battery, but I am sure nothing I did helped.. Insert sarcasm here.
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Oh, I don't doubt the 54 hours battery life. Like I said, the apps and tweaks are going to make some difference. But it all depends on how you use your phone. I'm not going to get 54 hours battery, even if I use your phone because of what I do. I'm playing games, or streaming radio, or watching movies or Youtube, and that's not all day, and with my screen bright.
Just me personally, I don't like to worry too much about how much battery life I'm getting. When I start doing that, then I find myself going out my way and doing things different (such as frequently checking the battery stats and stretching the phone's downtime) like I would not normally do, trying to see how much battery that I can actually get, instead of just enjoying the phone as I would normally use it.
When I had my old HTC Evo a few years back, I was doing everything that you're doing, and then some (as you can find several of these threads for every phone), trying to get every little ounce of juice that I could out that miserable battery. Same type apps and Roms, just different names. I had apps that turned off Wifi, data, bluetooth, and even crashed the phone once in a while. I actually got used to turning my screen brightness all the way down so that I could barely see anything. And it was great having a Rom so de-bloated, that I got a chance to find out what was missing when I got lost driving and needed directions. Yeah, it made a difference in the battery all right.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I would Recommend you to use Hibernate App no need of root
Hibernate App
Running @cstayton bo3 Kool kit active rom and have phenomenal battery life. No spare apps here. Turned on power save mode at 18%.
Watched two episodes of dexter, a little over half an hour on dead space, 4 short phone calls, a hand full of text and a few hours on the Web and using the xda app.
kalans said:
UPDATE: Check post #2 for the updated information!
Hey guys, first off I know many are going to say "Another battery thread.." but I wanted to share what I have been doing to my Galaxy S5 and see what you guys are doing.
Device:
-Samsung Galaxy S5 (AT&T)
-Rooted (towelroot)
-Running The Extreme Debloated ROM below
-Stock battery
ROM: Being that we don't have any custom roms yet, less is more. You of course could use titanium backup or the like to freeze many of the apps, uninstall many of the bloat apps yourself or you could install the Extreme Debloated ROM from the link below.
[NCE}{SafeStrap]DeOdexed/Extreme Debloat/Stock/Android L Features/Under 400mb!
Screen: We all know the more dim the screen the better the battery life, I don't use auto brightness but some do.
Greenify: If you aren't using this yet, you should! Rooted or not, this app works!
Auto-Sync: If you can function without this, turn it off. All apps, change to sync less frequently.
CPU: If you are only using your device for simple tasks, underclock it. I have mine running at 300 MHz-1.498 GHz interactive cfq. Of course you can set the Governor to be on demand etc for when you need it. I use No-frills CPU Control
Llama: There are many apps that you can use but Llama is free and is easy to get going, check it out here. Below is what I have my events set to, of course there is a bit more to it (advanced settings, aka delays etc). I have the Llama events that I use attached below, just install Llama and then place the text file in the Llama folder (stored on the local sd, internal). Go to events and press the menu button, then import and select it.
Explanation Of Events For Llama:
1-When screen turns off, but is not in a call and music is not playing. Delay for 1 minute and then disable mobile data, disable wifi, run the shortcut (from greenify) "Hibernate Now", disable account sync. The delay can be customized, but I like it at 1 minute. I have read from Intelli3G that turning the signals on and off can effect battery life, so previously I had it with no delay. This is fine if you don't turn your phone on and off too often.
2-When screen turns on, enable mobile data, enable wifi, enable account sync (but don't update). This is straight forward, turn it all back on. You can select the account sync to update if you want.
3-Wifi off if not connected when screen turns on. Delay for 40 seconds and then disable wifi if not connected. Since event #2 turns on the wifi by default, this will turn it off if it is not connected to a network.
4-Mobile data off if on wifi. When the phone connects to wifi, delay for 45 seconds and then disable mobile data. You will still get texts/calls etc, but not use data of the network.
5-Mobile data on when wifi off. Just as event #4 but the reverse, since we turned off mobile data while the wifi was on we need to turn it on. No delay, because we want it back right away.
6-Phone powered on. When the phone turns on, delay for 30 seconds and then run the greenify hibernate now shortcut. You can increase the delay if you have any processes starting up on boot.
AFWall+: Any firewall app will do just fine, but if you want to specify the IPv6 support (4G) then this one works great! Just realize it is default to selecting apps allowed to use the network (aka white list), which for me is just the browser/messaging/swiftkey. I have a toggle widget set on my screen that I turn on/off depending if I need anything special (use the market/youtube etc). This keeps them from using the network, thus saving your battery.
Autostart Processes: You can use many apps to change this, but I used SD Maid. Turn off anything you don't need running in the background (facebook etc).
Ads: Might not save much, but blocking ads will help on your data usage at least. I like Adaway. I also like to patch the apps from using ads (paranoid much?), I would think that covering two bases is better than one. Use Luckpatcher for this.
Apps: Back on my first smart phone (Palm Pre), we didn't have specific apps at first for normal things like facebook so we used the browser for the majority of our needs. You can use instagram/facebook/email etc all via the browser, thus reducing app usage in the background (data use, push notifications etc). I have tried fast for facebook and many small email clients, but you are sacrificing lots. The mobile pages work close to the app, better than a clone app. If you are like me I like the style and functionality of facebook/gmail/instagram, but I have not found any apps that pull this off very well outside of the official ones. Being you can block the apps via firewall and force stop them with greenify it does help, but apps like facebook/gmail they keep checking for updates and keep running causing wakelocks. Some apps like AquaMail seem to do the trick for me.
Xposed Framework: I LOVE the functionality that it provides, as it reminds me of the modding that we had back on WebOS but with these frameworks running in the background it causes some battery lose.
Closing Notes: There are many other options and possibilities depending on how you use your phone, and of course your mileage may vary. These are from my own testing and readings, some things may not even help or be very effective but this is why I am posting this. Let us share what works best for our device! Being I don't run XPosed I can't use Intelli3G, but since I am cutting off data where I can it helps. I would be interested in putting my phone in 2G/3G/4GLTE with a button click, might be possible with Llama but I haven't tried.
Credits:
[email protected] for the towelroot!
[email protected] and @raynan for their awesome work on debloating the stock ROM!
[email protected] for his suggestions on tasker/Llama!
[email protected] for greenify!
[email protected] for No-frills CPU Control!
[email protected] for Llama, the reason my battery lasts longer!
[email protected] for AFWall+!
-dominik for adaway!
-ChelpuS for LuckPatcher!
If you have found ANY of this useful, have any suggestions, comments etc please post below. Click Thanks if you want to show appreciation if this did help you. Thanks!
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I was/am having some issue importing the events for Llama I was wondering if I am doing something wrong or...? Is there a specific way of importing it?
Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
daltonhrrll said:
Hey guys quick question I'm an avid user of power saving mode (not UPSM) but I feel it could do better so I've been working on my own profile in tasker to better extend my battery. My question is what's the CPU underclocked to in power saving mode
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1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
shortydoggg said:
1728 MHz, or 1.7 GHz on mine.
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How many cores does it under clock
Hello. I'm new here. I would like to know what is the most appropriate android version and rom on Z1? I came from Xperia T2 Ultra still have it. Usually I get around 8-9-10hrs Screen on time. At 10+% I think. Thats mixed with some texting, brwosing web, youtube, album pictures, some.camera, wifi always on with facebook on and little gaming. with Stamina Mode plus.Queue checked. Well when I got the Z1 battery life was terrible. Usually I got 6hrs on screen. @720p resolution. with wifi.only.browsing and texting. Battery test app by Sony has Pass remarks on all testimg what could.be.the.problem here? Thank you. Well I repaired it with companion to see if it improves tomorrow or the next day. Please help me.on.my Z1 currently on .216 firmware. Help please.
That's the price you have to pay the awesome performance and features . Besides 6hrs SOT is pretty great on z1(I usually only get 5-5.5hrs).
Yup 6 hours of SOT is pretty good on this device
DorianX said:
Yup 6 hours of SOT is pretty good on this device
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Thanks for the reply but is it the only.possible way????? Anyway to improve that? Currently disappointed about the battery life...
masterofnocrack said:
That's the price you have to pay the awesome performance and features . Besides 6hrs SOT is pretty great on z1(I usually only get 5-5.5hrs).
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Thanks for reply but is there anyway to get more? I DID NIT.EVEN.Used Data connection on this screen.time disappointing.....
Anyway without sacrificing GHz or Gpu speed?
DIsable unused apps, disable location tracking for your google account, sync only relevant things, use Adguard to stop ads for browser and apps aswell as it does have a firewall so block apps that dont need to phone home or have internet access. Ditch drainers like Facebook app, Snapchat and avoid so called "Perfomance tuners/optimizers" as they kill apps that are restarted within minutes or seconds draining the perfomance and battery. Set your wifi to not scan for open networks, disable "Allow apps to scan even if wifi is off". In Settings - Security - Apps with usage access, allow Google Play and Google Play Services to have access if you experience wakelocks. Check the rest of your apps settings and disable unecessary notification systems, push notifications and so on. Some tips.
Lower the brightness,turn off vibration,uninstall or greenify battery hogging apps , keep stamina mode on 24/7 .try to use something lighter than chrome, for browsin cuz chrome really likes drinking battery juice. Those are stuff that will help.But underclocking will also help.
But i dont think that ur going to anywhere near the battery life of that T2U.
EQ2000 said:
DIsable unused apps, disable location tracking for your google account, sync only relevant things, use Adguard to stop ads for browser and apps aswell as it does have a firewall so block apps that dont need to phone home or have internet access. Ditch drainers like Facebook app, Snapchat and avoid so called "Perfomance tuners/optimizers" as they kill apps that are restarted within minutes or seconds draining the perfomance and battery. Set your wifi to not scan for open networks, disable "Allow apps to scan even if wifi is off". In Settings - Security - Apps with usage access, allow Google Play and Google Play Services to have access if you experience wakelocks. Check the rest of your apps settings and disable unecessary notification systems, push notifications and so on. Some tips.
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Well I.have 1hr.and.33minutes screen on time. I DID NOT.EVEN USE DATA Connection, either WIFI at those times. Just Camera and Album ALL Hogging battery eater apps are off. I think this isnt normal for Z1. I think there is wrong on my Z1??? I read people that used data with snycing apps plus camera and browse they got 5 hrs screen on.time but my usage was not even close to that and it already drained the battery??? What can I do more??? this is already 2 hrs old my auntie gave it.to.me.