Sense 2.0? - Hero CDMA Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

I saw this when I was bored and looking to see what was going on with Evo roms and stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966728
Is Sense 2.0 officially from HTC or made by some users like us?
Is it really more streamlined and quicker?
Could our Heroe's hardware handle it?
Would it be easier to build the 2.2 and 2.3 and beyond with our Heroes with this opposed to the current Sense UI we have?
If it is possible to run on our Heroes, has any devs talked about developing roms with it to anyone's knowledge?
(Disclaimer: I haven't been doing stuff to my Hero for about 6-8 months and haven't kept up with what is going on since then, so excuse some of my ignorance)

Sense 2.0 is what the Desire Z and Desire HD shipped with.

amdme127 said:
I saw this when I was bored and looking to see what was going on with Evo roms and stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966728
Is Sense 2.0 officially from HTC or made by some users like us?
Is it really more streamlined and quicker?
Could our Heroe's hardware handle it?
Would it be easier to build the 2.2 and 2.3 and beyond with our Heroes with this opposed to the current Sense UI we have?
If it is possible to run on our Heroes, has any devs talked about developing roms with it to anyone's knowledge?
(Disclaimer: I haven't been doing stuff to my Hero for about 6-8 months and haven't kept up with what is going on since then, so excuse some of my ignorance)
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I was Recently Wondering the same thing.... Can the Evo be Ported to our Hero???? Anyone???
"Sent From" My Fast as it Gonna get Sprint Hero! Running... My *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, The Build.Prop Tweek from Kifno, & The XDA BLUE.apk from Page 10 of my "EEH" Thread!!

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Hero/Sense roms? What's the difference?

What's the difference between sense roms and hero roms? Are the sense roms made for the myTouch? I'm trying to figure out what the difference is so I can get the best rom for my phone. Current have a mytouch 32b, so I'm assuming a Sense rom would suit me best?
Sense ROM is pretty much any ROM that contains the Sense UI from HTC. They've released one with all their new phones I believe. Hero ROMs are ROMs that use the Sense UI from the Hero phone specifically. They're just different builds of the same thing really. You need to read around to find which is best. But I would put my money on Sense Hero 1.2.
ok thank you
bal1985 said:
What's the difference between sense roms and hero roms? Are the sense roms made for the myTouch? I'm trying to figure out what the difference is so I can get the best rom for my phone. Current have a mytouch 32b, so I'm assuming a Sense rom would suit me best?
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i was goi to say what h.nocturna said but he beat me to it
just want to say some advice...sense roms are pretty much new..i believe they will run better with hero as long as someone is willing to actually stop working on their hero roms and move onto optimizing sense roms
drizzy alrdy said that sense roms have potential to be better and faster,but currently they are not being worked on that much.
brian_v3ntura said:
i was goi to say what h.nocturna said but he beat me to it
just want to say some advice...sense roms are pretty much new..i believe they will run better with hero as long as someone is willing to actually stop working on their hero roms and move onto optimizing sense roms
drizzy alrdy said that sense roms have potential to be better and faster,but currently they are not being worked on that much.
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hmph, shameless..Hero should be the quickest with a name like that you would think so

[Q] [REQUEST] HTC Legend Sense 2.0 - Desire HD ROM Port

Hello guys.
I'm currently using HTC Legend and I'm pretty sure it's the best phone I ever had.
But yesterday I met HTC Desire HD. Design of this phone is poor, but... ROM is excellent! Sense 2.0, a bunch of new interesting and useful apps..
So, let's see pros & cons:
- We already have DHD Rom ported to Desire +;
- We have all drivers for legend, based on 2.1 (As I know, there are no 2.2 drivers shared on the internet) +;
- I think there will be a ****load of issues due to incompatible screen resolution on Legend -;
- Perfomance issues. 600mhz 384mb versus 1ghz and 512mb. -;
So... Maybe, it's time to start porting?
As far as I know the DHD ROM ported to Desire is not fully functional and still has issues. Having in mind that and the fact that the Desire is much more closer to DHD hardware-wise, I think it won't be possible to have the Sense 2.0 ROM ported for the Legend any time soon.
I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on it about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
Adiost said:
I have an access to Desire and I intalled DHD ROM on them about a week ago. It's pretty fast, the only one bug I found is not working camera.
Also, hardware does not make any sense, because there are drivers and, I'm sure, it's really easy to replace drivers in DHD ROM (As I said, we have Legend drivers).
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"Not working camera" is really serious issue I think! DHD and Desire both have ARM v7 CPUs, Legend has ARM v6 CPU... quite different architectures.
Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
just hope it is possible...loved DHD Sense ROm on HD2.....
Maybe it's possible but I doubt if any of the skilled Legend devs will spend time on that...
Adiost said:
Oh wow... I forgot about cpus.
But... I can't believe it's so hard to port DHD ROM to legend -____- People porting Android 2.3 on WM6.5 device (HD2) now, even if it doesn't make any sense.
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Android 2.3 AOSP is open source, HTC Sense is closed source. That means you have to rebuild everything, especially the graphics and CPU.
hmmm...then 2.3 then..
The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
Sense 2.0 was buggy on the DHD I had one on release and a lot of the features worked only when they wanted to.
alexhtclegend said:
The HTC Wildfire 2 has been spotted! Since it looks like having a 3.2 inch HGVA screen like our Legend, would it be possible to port this ROM to our Legends?
Here's the link: http://www.unwiredview.com/2011/02/14/htc-wildfire-2-also-given-first-press-shot/
I know it hasn't even been officially announced yet, but does it seem plausible? I've always thought the reason we couldn't port HTC Sense 2.0 was because the Desire HD / Desire Z had a different resolution screen to the Legend? I know when the Legend came out its 2.1 ROM was ported to the Hero, so I wonder if this will be possible...
We'll only know if and when it is officially released though. Just a thought.
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I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
ogo2 said:
I believe this would be possible. Just give us HVGA Sense 2.0 and watch!
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In that case I hope a Wildfire 2 is released! The only issue I can think about is the potential lack of a trackball, but that didn't stop the DHD ROM being ported to the original Desire, so...
This is all speculation at the moment anyway until we find out tomorrow whether the Wildfire 2 is real or not at the MWC.
http://www.techradar.com/news/phone...brings-android-gingerbread-on-a-budget-928653
It's official! The specs look very similar to the Legend - 600mhz processor, same screen, etc.
Now we are waiting for leaked ROM. Maybe we will have 2.3 with Sense 2 soon...
Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
AngeloLegend said:
Oh yess, it's comin. When will this new wildfire be released?
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Probably around April.
Someone has started another Wildfire S thread here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=11373424#post11373424
This certainly are good news! Can't wait to run new sense on ginger legend
I wish that my dreams comes true...=)
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I've seen the new sense rom get ported to the nexus one, desire and more phones. i can't wait till i actually have the newest version of sense AND Gingerbread on my pretty little legend

Sense 2.1 Rom request

Hey i was wondering if there were any new gingersense roms that are only 2.1 with no added 3.0 features. as much as i like 3.0 i find all the roms a bit buggy. i think its due to the low memory and big file size of the 3.0 apps
im just looking for a full sense 2.1 rom so i can have the pull down toggles and the new app drawer. any roms out there?
I am currently running the Optimized Gingersense Beta 1 rom. It is strictly Sense 2.1 and is very stable for me. I have been using it as my daily driver since it was released. I know the latest Betas have been a mix of Sense 2.1 and 3.0, but I am waiting for them to become a little more stable.
Good luck.
g00gl3 said:
I am currently running the Optimized Gingersense Beta 1 rom. It is strictly Sense 2.1 and is very stable for me. I have been using it as my daily driver since it was released. I know the latest Betas have been a mix of Sense 2.1 and 3.0, but I am waiting for them to become a little more stable.
Good luck.
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That rom incorporates bits of Sense 3.0 as well. I think the idea of a 2.1 port would be great!
EDIT: I missed the beta 1 portion, my apologies.
what are some of the bugs in beta1? mms?
yea i dont think it would be to much to change. the lockscreen and weather app are a big bulk of the size i believe
I would also love a stock sense 2.1 rom
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Arent all of the Sense 2.1 ports GSM based? Everytime I used a Z Rom or Sense 2.1 or 3.0 (Whatever hybrids they are now) I would get phantom calls, funny mobile data switching, and the like.
If there was a CDMA based port perhaps this would all be moot?
There's a Thunderbolt gingerbread leak that one of the devs said he'd look into seeing if it was easy to port - assuming data worked when he tried. Not sure on his progress... but I too would like to see a stock 2.X rom.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=996193 - link to TBolt leak.
warm z 2.0 ran wonderful on my phone and i had no phantom calls. these were some problems for others i believe. its just hard coming from warm z which was super smooth and going to a 2.1/3.0 hybrid with all that bulk and then getting lag in places i never experienced before
I'm behind this one too. Not saying that the 2.1/3.0 hybrids are bad, rather quite the opposite. They are amazing ROMs with amazing developers behind them. Just the 3.0 features create lag in places and eat just a little too much of our quite limited ram for what I do with my device. Would have made a full stock 2.1 with the new fixes myself except ... lol ... I don't know how.
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Andassaran said:
I'm behind this one too. Not saying that the 2.1/3.0 hybrids are bad, rather quite the opposite. They are amazing ROMs with amazing developers behind them. Just the 3.0 features create lag in places and eat just a little too much of our quite limited ram for what I do with my device. Would have made a full stock 2.1 with the new fixes myself except ... lol ... I don't know how.
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I would love to see a port right from the EVO Shift...it's cdma and some 2.1/3.0 ports are already floating around out there...nothing it stock 2.1 though.
I think you will find that the 2.1/3.0 Roms have come a long way. Nils ginger sense is getting great reviews. If you have a spare 30-40 minutes, flash Newts Hybrid. He has fixed a lot of the issues. He just found the 720 cam fix and it also fixed the gallery. No lag in lock screen and no Rosie loading issues. Worth playing with.
not saying they havent, the definitely have, i just prefer sense 2.1 everything pretty much, at least for the dinc, only camera and weather do i like @ 3.0
g00gl3 said:
I am currently running the Optimized Gingersense Beta 1 rom. It is strictly Sense 2.1 and is very stable for me. I have been using it as my daily driver since it was released. I know the latest Betas have been a mix of Sense 2.1 and 3.0, but I am waiting for them to become a little more stable.
Good luck.
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how are the call or call quality issues anything i should know about? i use my phone for work and the extra features are welcome if its stable and wont phantom alot of calls
mr4r4n said:
how are the call or call quality issues anything i should know about? i use my phone for work and the extra features are welcome if its stable and wont phantom alot of calls
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The newest ones are cdma based (evo shift and evo 3d) so the phantom call issue is nonexistent on those
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dang just use the older one that is 2.1 through and through and remembered that it has the 3g drop issue

[Q] Not so many Incredible S users on xda?

I've moved across from the Desire forums and they're very busy, no doubt due to vast numbers of handsets being out there. The IS section looks fairly quiet in comparison, is that because of low sales on this model, or more the fact that the IS owners don't feel the need to root, mod etc?
it's a weird time right now for android phones....
Older phones are losing devs due to them moving on to newer phones, but there are so many newer phones that are actually good right now so dev support is widespread.
I would say it should pick up after a little while.
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there is huge dev support for the IS becuase allt he euro devs are using IS and all the american devs are able to use droid incrediable 2's
look at our ROM index and its huge the phones only been out for 6 months (march it came out) and we got sense 2-3.5 being dev'ed on along with CM7 and other osap roms and MIUI
jul644 said:
there is huge dev support for the IS becuase allt he euro devs are using IS and all the american devs are able to use droid incrediable 2's
look at our ROM index and its huge the phones only been out for 6 months (march it came out) and we got sense 2-3.5 being dev'ed on along with CM7 and other osap roms and MIUI
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I bet to differ, this is a pretty quiet forum dude.
Whatever though, great roms and stuff I'm not complaining
jul644 said:
there is huge dev support for the IS becuase allt he euro devs are using IS and all the american devs are able to use droid incrediable 2's
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Do the IS and the Droid use the same/similar roms?
UKseagull said:
Do the IS and the Droid use the same/similar roms?
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they're the same phone... just a different name because it is the US verizon version
I wouldn't flash a droid 2 rom onto the incredible though, different radios I think which could brick your device
Similar -- one is CDMA/GSM, the others are GSM only. Also, one has operator graffiti on it, the others don't.
This forum is not a high volume forum in my opinion. We have a few roms and a few devs but that's it. Look at the Desire HD forum. More devs, roms, and themes for their roms. Nobody does special themes for the Incredible S roms.
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that other guy was right though, the incredible 2 forum looks a LOT busier
this phone seems to have slipped under most's radar, kind a like the Xperia Arc which is although a sex bomb but has no custom ROMs.
It's bc the roms we have do everything we need.
Sense? Go with revolution.
Sense 3? Do the add on for rev or use the less stable pyramid ports
Aosp? Miui and cm7 and other stock roms like rev no sense.
What else? It may seem less busy bc the progress was made on other devices then ported over.
Ie the desire hd, mytouch 4G, inspire, thunderbolt, etc etc etc have the same specs just different outside bodies.
So while its not bustling with chatter, its still good. Just my .02
I guess many users went for the DualCore phones, like the Sensation, LG Optimus and Galaxy S 2, that came out just after the IncS.
But there is still a lot of development for the IncS and som very skilled users/dev's in here ;-)
It is a very quiet forum for developing. Maybe because it was released when dual core phones were starting to kick off. So it ended up being a kinda meh device. I wish I still had my desire z but HTC stopped making it :/
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sense 4.0

does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
ps3kev said:
does anyone know or has anyone heard if the vivid will even get the new sense 4.0 i know the new one X has it but the vivid has no love yet.. thanks
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Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
ps3kev said:
thanks, do u know if there will be an official update to android 4.0.4 or 4.0.5 heard it is fixing alot of issues
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Define issues, and honestly, since a global rollout has yet to occur, I doubt that upgrades >4.0.3 are going to occur. Maybe the regions that have yet to get ICS may get 4.0.4 or later, if those regions ever release an update.
Honestly, you're probably going to have to wait for CM to give you that.
question????
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
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HTC has said Sense 3.6 for the Vivid line. 4.0 for the One series and newer.
daspazz said:
@ Aus_AZN
Why do you think or what have you heard that indicates no Sense 4 for Vivid?
I'm new to the HTC line and reacquainting myself with Android phones. I had a Moto Droid X a few years ago until it was stolen. I was loving it compared to my old VeriZon semi-smart phone. But then it was liberated.
I also lost everything after the loss of a family member. So I really haven't had a quality phone for the last 2 years until I upgraded to the Vivid. I didn't do much research, I just knew it would be upgradeable to ICS. I only upgraded to it because I was able to get it for $49.99 as an upgrade from a Fry's electronics near me. So far it ROCKS!!!!
Also where is a good or great source to learn more about Sense and what it adds to the phone? I have seen very little here or on the HTC site or AT&T either.
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Well, the Vivid is definitely upgradeable to ICS, just not Sense 4 ICS. The way Sense 3.6 looks is very similar to the way it looks on GB; you just get the ICS bonuses when you update it.
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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Many bugs on this update like losing reception when entering a train station then having to manually turn it back on when back outside or rebooting. Lost of audio on games which needs a reboot and the constant upgrading android on reboots. I believe we will get an upgrade to work out the kinks. But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Cor-master said:
I for one hope we see sense 4.0 at some point. It's not out of the question. Hopefully after the one line gains some steam they'll update it.
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I don't think they'll update it; I think the user community will pull through. There is some efforts being made right now, but a lot of it is blocked courtesy of RIL issues.
dfella30 said:
But doubt a sense update but who knows we got beats audio and sense 3.6. HTC is cool like that
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Yea, but ATT isn't..
homeslice976 said:
Yea, but ATT isn't..
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I've had sprint and t-mobile att is by far better in pricing. They even waved my activation fees and sold me a top of the line phone for 1 cent. While sprint and t-mobile man enough said. Never had verizon but after walking in and looking at the prices I walked out and never went back that was 5 years ago. What its been 5-6 months, fastest update to the latest and greatest ever not to mention we were the first to receive ICS if I'm correct. I think people are upset about the whole no unlimited data thing. But for what I use my phone for its ok haven't even hit a gig yet. Also lowest cancel fee as well. Haven't really needed support yet so don't know about that but S&T forget it.
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All I meant by that is that ATT has been notorious for only providing 1 major update per device (minor security/software patches aside). We got ICS and Sense 3.6 as the update, I don't see, from history, ATT giving us another big update like Sense 4.0
What pisses me off about all the cell phone companies is that they waste technology with greed. This phone among others have 2 CPUs and a monster gpu yet the current software does not utilize it very well at all. Now quads its truly a waste of hardware. When phones like the Samsung epic still does very well. ICS uses more resources and the following android update will use even more, making capable phones unable to be upgraded do to lack of resources. Now as far as sense 4 goes our phones have enough resource to handle the upgrade to not give it is a waste and a greed move. Also I hate reading a phone has 1gb ram but 300 available, its starting to be a joke. Laptops another mobile device that can receive the latest and greatest as long as the hardware is supported, they should just offer upgrades for a price which would guarantee upgrades as long as the hardware meets the requirements and offer them from the play store. And fixes should stay free.
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Really overall the update has been pretty good to me. Some minor quirks here and there but everything works and it seems stable. Sense 3.6 works well just the look of it all gets to me. Coming from a Samsung, touchwiz definitley adds its own look but keeps enough elements that you still know what version of android your running. The way it sounds is htc rebuilt sense from the ground up to look good on the one series but just did some minor tweaking on the updated phones. I still question the call imo. And I don't get why htc feel the need to remove overscroll glow and Crt animations on their roms, very cool effects that SHOULD be enabled! And why is the app drawer so.... Gingerbread looking? And where are the widget previews and why aren't they located in the apartment drawer?
http://www.androidpolice.com/2012/02/01/editorial-sense-4-on-ics-one-step-forward-two-steps-back-for-android/ from my HTC PH39100 using XDA
From this article it sounds like 4.0 is more of the same anyway but it's spot on about what bugs me about sense ics
Thanks for the link Cor-Master!!
I may want to back off of Sense and see what ICS really looks like. Who knew HTC was bastardizing ICS so much. Im new to the Vivid so I had no idea what Sense really was. Now I know more and knowing is half the battle!
Yeah and like the author I'm not against custom UIs. In away its what android was all about and it allows manufacturers some freedom in putting their own stamp on Android. But in the case of sense its just too much. A good example is my captivate and it's official gingerbread update. Samsung put their own stamp on I with touchwiz but it still looked and felt like gingerbread. All and all I'd say touchwiz was 80% android. And the launcher wasn't as heavily weaven into the ui as sense so as for me I spent a majority of my time with it on adw ex. But sense is probably 30% stock Android if that. They really went out of there way to make sure android didn't look or feel like android anymore.
I like sense for the most part and the issue is fixable if htc just does a few minor things: #1 kill all the textured menus and use the stock holo theme for everything. #2. Enable all ics animations #3. Keep the notification bar stock. And last but not least #4. Use the stock app drawer. They could keep everything else the same and sense overall would world's better!
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I like Sense. 3.6 is a huge step closer to an AOSP feel than 3.0 or 3.5 was. 4.0 looks even closer. Any way I look at it though, I like what HTC did with Sense. I think it enhances the look of the OS, without compromising resources too badly. It's definitely my favorite Android overlay (over touchwiz, motoblur, etc)...and it's one of the many reasons I bought the Vivid, because I like Sense. If I didn't like Sense, I probably wouldn't have bought HTC. Especially one who's development is a little slower than others.
i guess we just have to wait and see what happens maybe att will release an update for it i dont know
Aus_Azn said:
Officially (as in from HTC), probably never.
Unofficially, probably after S-Off is released and CM9 is out.
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CM Roms are AOSP based and will not contain Sense. CM always use AOSP

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