Hero/Sense roms? What's the difference? - G1 Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

What's the difference between sense roms and hero roms? Are the sense roms made for the myTouch? I'm trying to figure out what the difference is so I can get the best rom for my phone. Current have a mytouch 32b, so I'm assuming a Sense rom would suit me best?

Sense ROM is pretty much any ROM that contains the Sense UI from HTC. They've released one with all their new phones I believe. Hero ROMs are ROMs that use the Sense UI from the Hero phone specifically. They're just different builds of the same thing really. You need to read around to find which is best. But I would put my money on Sense Hero 1.2.

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bal1985 said:
What's the difference between sense roms and hero roms? Are the sense roms made for the myTouch? I'm trying to figure out what the difference is so I can get the best rom for my phone. Current have a mytouch 32b, so I'm assuming a Sense rom would suit me best?
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i was goi to say what h.nocturna said but he beat me to it
just want to say some advice...sense roms are pretty much new..i believe they will run better with hero as long as someone is willing to actually stop working on their hero roms and move onto optimizing sense roms
drizzy alrdy said that sense roms have potential to be better and faster,but currently they are not being worked on that much.

brian_v3ntura said:
i was goi to say what h.nocturna said but he beat me to it
just want to say some advice...sense roms are pretty much new..i believe they will run better with hero as long as someone is willing to actually stop working on their hero roms and move onto optimizing sense roms
drizzy alrdy said that sense roms have potential to be better and faster,but currently they are not being worked on that much.
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hmph, shameless..Hero should be the quickest with a name like that you would think so

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best daily use HERO ROM

Hey guys, I am a bit tired of donut 1.6 and would like to jump up to hero (because 2.0 is pretty much a dead os, and 2.1 is not at the stage where its dialy use)
I am wondering what your favourite hero rom is (hopefully with a link).
Are there any hero roms which are still updated, and have any hero roms. Come to the point where they are suitable for daily use?
I like MLIGN's with 96mb swap on a class 6 sd, but you just have to try them out for yourself.
I know there is mglin and sense hero. Is eclair hero, hero or eclair?
A hero rom is basically a rom with a custom UI that HTC calls sense.
Most of the hero roms here are based on android 1.5 (Cupcake) Like MLIGN's.
Eclair hero is android 2.1 (or 2.0, but I am pretty sure it is 2.1) with HTC's sense UI. I have no experience using this rom.
Lol "Jump up to hero" From a 1.6 ROM?
more like fall down a huge cliff but yeah MLIGN is one of the best ways to go.
running V3.3 now and loving it.
lol, i havent tried a hero rom and would need to make my own kernal for it so i wanted to know which was the best before jumping in, i guess ill go with that one then.
What exactly do you mean by jumping down rather than up, i know the speed will be less what else?
asb123 said:
lol, i havent tried a hero rom and would need to make my own kernal for it so i wanted to know which was the best before jumping in, i guess ill go with that one then.
What exactly do you mean by jumping down rather than up, i know the speed will be less what else?
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Nah its that you said you wanna jump up to a Hero rom that's not 2.1 from a 1.6 rom.Normal hero Rom's are 1.5 so its more like jumping down then up. there arent really many differences. Hero ROM's are pretty quick so that's not gunna be an issue.
Macrophage001 said:
Lol "Jump up to hero" From a 1.6 ROM?
more like fall down a huge cliff but yeah MLIGN is one of the best ways to go.
running V3.3 now and loving it.
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I like jcarzz more. although its bugging me out all of a sudden!
Personally, I had bad luck with MLIGN. But maybe that's just me. It ran fine for awhile, then I started getting random freezeups and reboots up the ass. Tried a wipe and reflash, ext repair, etc, but alas, no luck. But I'm also running a Class 2 SD card so maybe that's what did me in. I'm sure MLIGN is a great ROM
I'm using SenseHero 1.4, with BFS 300 + RAM Hack, and so far I'm nothing but pleased . No random lockups or reboots yet, everything's veryy smooth and I haven't had the loadscreen for Rosie come up at all yet (aside from initial boot, of course).
Current continuous uptime is at something like 15 hours right now (my battery died this morning - I've been using the ROM for a few days now).
Bottom line though -- ya just gotta try em and find what works best for you.
I'd say top contenders are MLIGN, SenseHero, Jac's Hero, and King's Eclair Hero.

Roms or Not?

are we going to get any other roms from different phones ported to the nexus one?? have not seen anything??
Why would you assume we could even do that? All the phones run Android. And they all have different drivers for their various hardware differences.
Porting a rom would be to pull just the Android part out of it, and put it on the Nexus. Which is already what we have.
If you mean porting the different launchers/icons/widgets that is done all the time. And we have a lot of things like that.
xghostyxjokerx said:
are we going to get any other roms from different phones ported to the nexus one?? have not seen anything??
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The Desire's been ported by Paul. If you want something broken, download one of King's many ports.
well for example i was able to use the blur rom on my g1 and even the slide rom on g1 and port 2.2 on g1 and such why is that we only get the desire rom?? not droids roms or even the new galaxy ? idk is it possible? or not?
it would be great to maybe see the galaxy s rom ported over to the nexus one....anyone out there know how to do this?? or even the evo or droid x roms ported over to the nexus one?? is this possible...???
xghostyxjokerx said:
well for example i was able to use the blur rom on my g1 and even the slide rom on g1 and port 2.2 on g1 and such why is that we only get the desire rom?? not droids roms or even the new galaxy ? idk is it possible? or not?
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Well, maybe becoz the N1 has the latest Android version and porting stuff from earlier Android versions is not always possible... the Desire had 2.1 and now has a leaked 2.2, and is very much similar to the N1, so porting is possible... if stuff like blur was written for Android 2.1/2.2, I'm sure we'd see blur roms for the N1....
dont the droix x run one 2.1 and also the galxay rom run on 2.1 cant nexus one go back to 2.1 i still can use 2.1? on a rooted version of n1?
i just hope we all will be able to seen some roms realease coming soon
Yes, instead of developing proper Nexus AOSP ROM, porting newer graphic driver, enabling 720p and FM radio, etc - let's spend the time porting a zillion of different ROMs, with whatever features that won't work..
Or maybe not.
um look at the desire rom for nexus one...do we have one actually works all features yet or still not properly working?? and im just asking quiestion no need to be rude about it n crap....
xghostyxjokerx said:
um look at the desire rom for nexus one...do we have one actually works all features yet or still not properly working?? and im just asking quiestion no need to be rude about it n crap....
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Well, the Nexus and Desire have very similar hardware... so it was easier to port considering less driver problems... besides the DroidX is new and the Desire's been out for quite a while... maybe we'll see a DroidX firmware port in a while... maybe we won't...

EVO 2.2 Sense ROM Port?

Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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winterstormhaku said:
Is there anyway to port the Fully Functional EVO 2.2 Rom to the Hero. I would like to see the hero with a functional 2.2 sense Rom.
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not gonna happen, we are waiting for another phone comparable with the hero to get it then it can be ported. on another note rumor has it sprint will be releasing another hero update in october. keep your fingers crossed that it could be froyo.
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
Vandelay007 said:
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
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Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
bray424 said:
Right now Hero users have to choose between 2.2 without Sense, or 2.1 with Sense. A lot of people would like 2.2 with Sense.
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2 months ago I was saying the same thing. Been running CM6 since day 1 and got sense deprived for 2 days. Flashed CM6 back and found some alternatives to the sense look. Now I could care less about sense and any official update. IMHO, my phone runs better, faster and actually looks better without sense. The only good thing that would come of it would be to fix the very few issues that are left in the froyo ROM.
Vandelay007 said:
This may sound dumb...but what more could happen if the hero gets froyo since we already have it anyway?
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
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lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
fixxxer2008 said:
lets see...sense and the goodies, less issues maybe?
i find it hard to believe you guys wouldn't want it. i bet 90% of you would hop on it once it got rooted.
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I'm just so new that I wasn't even thinking about having the best of both worlds...I would def try that out if it becomes reality
Sent from my HTC Hero with Froyo...
I would only start using a 2.2 Sense ROM if it had the speed and options like CyanogenMOD has... which will never happen. So I guess I'll never use a 2.2 Sense ROM.
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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cp0020 said:
I find zenrom and NFX-hero to be the same if not faster than our 2.2 rom. Plus it's sense which means it just looks a billion times better than aosp, plus our phones were meant to have sense on it so naturally the battery life will be a whole lot better. And then you throw froyo in it and get one of our devs to spruce it up then we got ourselves a mini evo. Why have a rom that looks worse no matter what you do to it and gets worse battey life and download 100 different things to make it look kind of like sense and get somewhat better battery life when you can have the real thing? I'm not trying to start a flame war, just throwing in my 2 bills.
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I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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awe gee thanks, love you too.
and you got proof that it would run better?
Mac11700 said:
I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
Sent from my HERO200 using XDA App
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Well...alrighty then. It sounds like you had a set up issue on your phone because out of my 4 Hero's..the way mine is set up now it flat out runs the stock sense rom's that I have here and has more gas at the end of the day, and everything turned on that I have to have turned off on the stock roms if I expect more than 8 hours of battery life. I haven't tried either of the other 2 roms you are talking about yet,but I might just to see if your just blowing smoke which I believe you are..since you still haven't validated any of you facts opinions yet..
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cp0020 said:
Out of Every sense rom and aosp rom I've gotten a minimum of 6 hours more battery life out of the sense roms. I'm not saying aosp is slow either, but with the new zenrom and nfx-hero, sense is just as fast if not faster than our 2.2 aosp rom. And yes...that's a fact! The only thing that is a little slow on the sense roms is the messaging app. Aosp has always been great for me at the beginning, but after a few days it just gets slowed down for no reason. And I only have like 7 apps that I downloaded. Aosp is plain, sense has style! Sense will always no matter what look better than plain ol aosp.......
My last post was my opinion.... now I'm stating a fact
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I agree that zenrom and nfx-hero are light-years faster than the stock 2.1 sense rom. I'd even venture to say that its as fast as 2.1 sense can get, its pretty damn snappy. But I hope when you say its faster than CM6, you aren't talking something quantitatively ... because frankly, the statistics don't back up that claim.
And you're right, regular AOSP is plain and boring. The reason it's like that is to start with as clean a slate as possible, and let you theme and mod to the nth degree. You can do the same thing with Sense, but not as easily, and it will never be as lightweight because of the extra HTC apps. Some phones can handle the extra weight, some can't. I guess it comes down to if you want to work to make your Hero uniquely beautiful, or commonly pallatable.
I respect your own opinion (my wife is a Sense lover, so I have this debate constantly, and respect the other side), however recognize the difference between facts and opinions, please. If you want to provide subjective "facts", please call them what FOX News calls them: truth.
I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
Even though Sense looks great compared to vanilla AOSP, visual appeal is not what I look for when comparing the two ROMS. I love how lightweight AOSP is, but wish it came with some of the awesome HTC widgets that are exlusive to Sense. To this day, the HTC keyboard, weather and calendar widgets, and a few other items have no equal in the FREE apps section of the Market.
smolck said:
I'll just say this, my phone with CM6 was not as fast as it is with Aloysius 2.1. I get higher mflops and quadrant scores with Aloysius. I also get about double the battery life. I think it all depends on the user. I am not saying sense is better, but in my phone (and the way I use it) the sense roms are faster and far less buggy. I like that I only have to flash one file and I am good to go. No flash rom, then gapps, then kernel, then battery tweak, then theme, etc, etc, etc.
I just think the Hero runs better with what it was intended to run. Thats my $0.02 anyways.
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I agree. I tried CM6 and barely noticed a speed difference. I noticed several features and customizations, but nothing special that I can't do on my 2.1 sense rom. Actually, froyo isn't even all that to me. The only thing I want from Froyo is the marking/vending, but other than that there's nothing special like everyone says. BTW, I'm also using Aloysius 2.1 with my own theme I created.
This is also my 2 cents. And I am in no way saying that Aloysius is better than CM6, just that 2.1 sense roms have more of what I prefer.
unCoRrUpTeD said:
Everyone needs to just ignore fixxer. I don't think a 2.2 sense rom on our phone will be better or faster than CM6.
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Obviously you've never used Zen-ROM before. It is MUCH much faster than CM6 ever was for me. I've had zero lag and fantastic battery life.
Mac11700 said:
I know the saying..." To each his own "...but..your not really not stating an opinion..your stating what you say as a "fact" I'm from Missouri...and we have an old saying here...it is.. show me So please show me how all sense roms looks 1,000,000,000 times better than any asop rom please.. As to you statement of a sense rom giving better battery life,sorry,I say BS. I have 4 Hero's in my household and mine is the only one that is rooted. Mine gives 2x-3x the battery life over the other 3 stock Hero's, 1 of which is barely used which is my wifes. I know this for a fact since I have been monitoring all of them very closely daily since rooting mine to see just how stable everything is before doing theirs.
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Yeah, because no one else in your house is using a rooted Hero with something like Zen-ROM on it..
I charged my phone today around 6 in the evening to 100%. It's now 5am and I STILL have over 70% battery life left, after using it pretty heavily with GMaps. CM6 never made it that far for me.

[Q] Stable Sense rom for the Nexus One?

Just got my Nexus One the other day and I'm already craving to flash a new rom to it. I've seen a couple stock sense roms out there but which one would yall say is the most stable? (I searched for this and only came up with the opposite of what I was asking for) Thanks
Well, quite frankly, I'd recommend CyanogenMod 6.1 for your Nexus One... it's the stablest and best multi-feature-packed ROM... but if it's HTC Sense you want, I'd say eViLs NXSense 1.26 (Desire ROM port) is the best... It's quite stable and definitely can be used as an everyday ROM...
craigacgomez said:
Well, quite frankly, I'd recommend CyanogenMod 6.1 for your Nexus One... it's the stablest and best multi-feature-packed ROM... but if it's HTC Sense you want, I'd say eViLs NXSense 1.26 (Desire ROM port) is the best... It's quite stable and definitely can be used as an everyday ROM...
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Thanks for the quick response! Yeah, I'll probably mess with cm6.1 and add beautiful widget or something like that. Sense just has something about it that makes it seem more "professional" about it.

Sense 2.0?

I saw this when I was bored and looking to see what was going on with Evo roms and stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966728
Is Sense 2.0 officially from HTC or made by some users like us?
Is it really more streamlined and quicker?
Could our Heroe's hardware handle it?
Would it be easier to build the 2.2 and 2.3 and beyond with our Heroes with this opposed to the current Sense UI we have?
If it is possible to run on our Heroes, has any devs talked about developing roms with it to anyone's knowledge?
(Disclaimer: I haven't been doing stuff to my Hero for about 6-8 months and haven't kept up with what is going on since then, so excuse some of my ignorance)
Sense 2.0 is what the Desire Z and Desire HD shipped with.
amdme127 said:
I saw this when I was bored and looking to see what was going on with Evo roms and stuff.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=966728
Is Sense 2.0 officially from HTC or made by some users like us?
Is it really more streamlined and quicker?
Could our Heroe's hardware handle it?
Would it be easier to build the 2.2 and 2.3 and beyond with our Heroes with this opposed to the current Sense UI we have?
If it is possible to run on our Heroes, has any devs talked about developing roms with it to anyone's knowledge?
(Disclaimer: I haven't been doing stuff to my Hero for about 6-8 months and haven't kept up with what is going on since then, so excuse some of my ignorance)
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I was Recently Wondering the same thing.... Can the Evo be Ported to our Hero???? Anyone???
"Sent From" My Fast as it Gonna get Sprint Hero! Running... My *ExpressoEnergyHero* ROM, The Build.Prop Tweek from Kifno, & The XDA BLUE.apk from Page 10 of my "EEH" Thread!!

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