Roms or Not? - Nexus One Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

are we going to get any other roms from different phones ported to the nexus one?? have not seen anything??

Why would you assume we could even do that? All the phones run Android. And they all have different drivers for their various hardware differences.
Porting a rom would be to pull just the Android part out of it, and put it on the Nexus. Which is already what we have.
If you mean porting the different launchers/icons/widgets that is done all the time. And we have a lot of things like that.

xghostyxjokerx said:
are we going to get any other roms from different phones ported to the nexus one?? have not seen anything??
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The Desire's been ported by Paul. If you want something broken, download one of King's many ports.

well for example i was able to use the blur rom on my g1 and even the slide rom on g1 and port 2.2 on g1 and such why is that we only get the desire rom?? not droids roms or even the new galaxy ? idk is it possible? or not?

it would be great to maybe see the galaxy s rom ported over to the nexus one....anyone out there know how to do this?? or even the evo or droid x roms ported over to the nexus one?? is this possible...???

xghostyxjokerx said:
well for example i was able to use the blur rom on my g1 and even the slide rom on g1 and port 2.2 on g1 and such why is that we only get the desire rom?? not droids roms or even the new galaxy ? idk is it possible? or not?
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Well, maybe becoz the N1 has the latest Android version and porting stuff from earlier Android versions is not always possible... the Desire had 2.1 and now has a leaked 2.2, and is very much similar to the N1, so porting is possible... if stuff like blur was written for Android 2.1/2.2, I'm sure we'd see blur roms for the N1....

dont the droix x run one 2.1 and also the galxay rom run on 2.1 cant nexus one go back to 2.1 i still can use 2.1? on a rooted version of n1?
i just hope we all will be able to seen some roms realease coming soon

Yes, instead of developing proper Nexus AOSP ROM, porting newer graphic driver, enabling 720p and FM radio, etc - let's spend the time porting a zillion of different ROMs, with whatever features that won't work..
Or maybe not.

um look at the desire rom for nexus one...do we have one actually works all features yet or still not properly working?? and im just asking quiestion no need to be rude about it n crap....

xghostyxjokerx said:
um look at the desire rom for nexus one...do we have one actually works all features yet or still not properly working?? and im just asking quiestion no need to be rude about it n crap....
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Well, the Nexus and Desire have very similar hardware... so it was easier to port considering less driver problems... besides the DroidX is new and the Desire's been out for quite a while... maybe we'll see a DroidX firmware port in a while... maybe we won't...

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new UI choices?

hello all. I was just wondering if anyone could update on all possible UI's if more do exist besides Hero and the stock t-mob. I must say i do love Hero very much but more so for me the novelty has allready worn off or maybe im just board with it and love flashing roms. At any rate i was just wondering what else might be available to even try to port or is allready done and maybe just doesnt get any love. Thanks, Veritas
I'm in the same boat as ya. Been trying out different UIs mainly hero and stock ui. I somehow always end up back at the stock ui well cyanogen's ui. I'd say just stick with the fastest ui for now until hero is running completely smooth or buy the htc hero itself. =D
There is also OMS but a working port has yet to surface. There were some folks working on it a couple months ago, but I think they are waiting on a full dump of the Dopod a6188 (the China mobile version of Sapphire/Magic) which runs it. If you want to see what OMS looks like do a video search for Lenovo OPhone.
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There is also OMS but a working port has yet to surface. There were some folks working on it a couple months ago, but I think they are waiting on a full dump of the Dopod a6188 (the China mobile version of Sapphire/Magic) which runs it. If you want to see what OMS looks like do a video search for Lenovo OPhone.
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Your right, we're waiting for xDan to get this dump so can be ported over to dream. Also there is alot of themes (if you look in the theme section) There in a format of a update.zip.
the blur was announced this week. idk if ok to port because im not sure the ui is open.
anyone know whats the most stable hero rom out at the moment?
veritasaequita said:
hello all. I was just wondering if anyone could update on all possible UI's if more do exist besides Hero and the stock t-mob. I must say i do love Hero very much but more so for me the novelty has allready worn off or maybe im just board with it and love flashing roms. At any rate i was just wondering what else might be available to even try to port or is allready done and maybe just doesnt get any love. Thanks, Veritas
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theres ahome, dxtop, and some other ui i cant remember. u can download from market.
they sit on top of cupcake builds. idk how to explain it, tired now. just message me
hero is a ui that sit over the stock android.
brian_v3ntura said:
theres ahome, dxtop, and some other ui i cant remember. u can download from market.
they sit on top of cupcake builds. idk how to explain it, tired now. just message me
hero is a ui that sit over the stock android.
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yea i noticed hero was just sittin on cupcake when i deleted and replaced rosie.apk.....ive used all the home replacements and there all nice but they each have there own major drawbacks, plus its just fun to switch to something that technically shouldnt be there, thats just how i roll...veritas
veritasaequita said:
hello all. I was just wondering if anyone could update on all possible UI's if more do exist besides Hero and the stock t-mob. I must say i do love Hero very much but more so for me the novelty has allready worn off or maybe im just board with it and love flashing roms. At any rate i was just wondering what else might be available to even try to port or is allready done and maybe just doesnt get any love. Thanks, Veritas
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Yah, the Motorola "Blur" (mentioned in early post) for the Cliq phone would be the next option I think besides the Hero and stock G1. But the cliq is like an 850mhtz phone..If it can be ported, it will prolly have to be cut down to run smooth on G1 and the Hero UI on a G1 still has its issues after months and months of work by XDA devs. Not sure what is in store with the Samsung Bigfoot as far as UI goes, Haven't seen any UI pics, may just be stock donut. LG has an android phone coming out for UK only at this point, but that looks like stock donut.
integlspwr said:
anyone know whats the most stable hero rom out at the moment?
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they're all pretty stable at this point. Try Jac2.1 or Hero2. Both are working pretty good for me.
nolimit78 said:
they're all pretty stable at this point. Try Jac2.1 or Hero2. Both are working pretty good for me.
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I think i'll try jac2.1
do you have a step be step link on how to flash it on my factory g1?
integlspwr said:
I think i'll try jac2.1
do you have a step be step link on how to flash it on my factory g1?
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actually jac 2.1 is not even close to be stable when compared to modaco / akirahs 1.5.1 and jacs 1.6r2a.
2.1 still has bugs that older builds like 1.5.1 and 1.6r2a dont have.
tep065 said:
Yah, the Motorola "Blur" (mentioned in early post) for the Cliq phone would be the next option I think besides the Hero and stock G1. But the cliq is like an 850mhtz phone..If it can be ported, it will prolly have to be cut down to run smooth on G1 and the Hero UI on a G1 still has its issues after months and months of work by XDA devs. Not sure what is in store with the Samsung Bigfoot as far as UI goes, Haven't seen any UI pics, may just be stock donut. LG has an android phone coming out for UK only at this point, but that looks like stock donut.
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3.1″ HVGA Touch Screen, 320×480 pixels
Qualcomm MSM7201A 528 MHz
512 MB ROM, 256 RAM
114mm x 58mm x 15.6mm
the click is not a 850mhz phone. its 528mhz as you can see. and 256 ram... which is less than hero(288mb) so prolly BLUR might run smoother than hero when fully optimized.
the only android phone that has a processor higher than 600mhz is the sony ericsson xperia x3(rachael) at 1ghz
yeah i have thinking of trading in my g1 for a cliq next month. but the new "ui" is basically widgets that are attached to a blur account. so i dont see this is working on the the g1 we will most likely get a launcher that has 5 home screens and the colors but i doubt much else.

Sense UI for Milestone (anyone tried it yet?)

Theres a sense ui rom that i found, looks like that the developer abandoned it, iv tried to port it into my milestone...but im just a novice user...so dont know how to tune the rom...hope some one here can further develop it...
http://forums.zeusdroid.org/viewtopic.php?f=3&t=25
ehh its zeusdroid.
the developer didnt abandon it, it just that it was a port from and HTC Desire, and porting a rom from GSM phone to CDMA is HARD!!
so his release is only in ALPHA not even beta yet.
i tried the past 2 versions and unless ur gonna partition ur sd card DONT bother!!!
its quite Pathetic how slow and unusable it is.
i just use froyo + HTC like clock widget, and thats enough for me
CommunistDroid said:
ehh its zeusdroid.
the developer didnt abandon it, it just that it was a port from and HTC Desire, and porting a rom from GSM phone to CDMA is HARD!!
so his release is only in ALPHA not even beta yet.
i tried the past 2 versions and unless ur gonna partition ur sd card DONT bother!!!
its quite Pathetic how slow and unusable it is.
i just use froyo + HTC like clock widget, and thats enough for me
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Begs the question are we talking about the GSM Milestone or the CDMA Droid since the OP asked about the Milestone....
And how does one port a ROM to a device with a locked bootloader in the first place?! (Kexec is yet to be up and running properly remember?) That could be a reason why the OP is having a hard time!!
I ask since there is also no Froyo on the Milestone until Motorola release it...
The issue actually has nothing to do with the bootloader but the radio libs. The Sense based builds make specials calls intended for an htc based ril. If the Ril doesn't know what to do with those calls there are all kinds of issues, as in the case of the droid/milestone.
Running a custom rom on the milestone is possible, in fact I had the latest CM compiled for the droid up and running on the milestone, but there were many many issues with it that I just couldn't work out.
actually is main flaw was that he used the Droid port in order to apply it to the phone witch litterally brick his modem ( sort of speak), he s worked around that and will be releasing this soon .
Tonight from what I gathered ..
/forums/401-motorola-milestone/553336-image-motosense-htc-sense-ui-port-milestone.html#post3981786
Add modmymobile.com before that link.
Anyway, it doesn't work on my Milestone, HTC logo just goes on in a loop.
Yep, the modmymobile one seems the more promising but loop on the HTC logo for me too :/
It seems that only the creator succeeded in making work it, anyway looking at the videos he posted it seem pretty much fluid, even if it has some problems in landscape mode.
Hope he will fix it soon...
Landscape would not be a problem for me. But it's weird it works on its Milestone and not our :/
Axiol said:
Landscape would not be a problem for me. But it's weird it works on its Milestone and not our :/
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Won't be a problem for me either, but it's very strange that it works only on his device :/
He also posted that reflashing the .36 ROM and applying the customisation led to another different result (works but not as fast as the previous try) :S
wrong thread
mod merge all the sens ui thread maybe ?

[Q] Sense 2.2 Rom

with the release of froyostone rom for the hd2 which is sense + 2.2 officially from htc, I believe it would be much easier to port sense to the captivate and completely remove touchwiz.
First your posting in the wrong captivate forum section...second the Android os isn't something that can be magically ported to XX device just because XXX device has it or its working on it, for starters the hd2 is a non native android device, which means its running an android port, with the help of a half working linux kernel, loaded with haret bootloader, android 2.2 is coming in September so just sit tight and be patient, or you can download CM6 vibrant source and port it over to the captivate(you would have to make the captivates kernel compatible with 2.2, meaning backporting/patching etc) which ever you like.
Rafyvitto
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
gunnyman said:
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
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Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
dressanderc said:
Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
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I LOL'ed +tenchars
gunnyman said:
Yeah it ought to be about as easy as loading OS X on a Commodore 64.
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dressanderc said:
Well, maybe Steve can call Xerox for some help with that...
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ROFL thats some good stuff guys.
who wants sense anyways, it's just a big shiney TURD!
designgears said:
who wants sense anyways, it's just a big shiney TURD!
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+1
where's some good ol' fashioned AOSP when you need it?
*hint hint* DG *hint*
Personally, I cant wait till all manufacturers realize we don't want to be forced into sense, touch wiz etc.
Make it default if you have to, but provide an option to enjoy raw, unadulterated android!!!
I guess we wait and see what Gingerbread does about that.
To the OP, why don't YOU port Android 2.2 to the Captivate AND also port Sense??
Joking aside I am going to be cooking for the Captivate soon. I'm just waiting for Froyo so I can get my hands dirty with Android .
Maybe even a Sense port??
I've been working on porting sense to our the device for some weeks now but roms fail to boot, changing libs etc, got no clue of what else to try.
Sense is so deeply entangled into Android, kinda like trying to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95, It is virtually impossible to get it working without all the kernel extensions HTC added to the OS.
gunnyman said:
Sense is so deeply entangled into Android, kinda like trying to remove Internet Explorer from Windows 95, It is virtually impossible to get it working without all the kernel extensions HTC added to the OS.
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Just a historical footnote. Internet explorer was very easy to remove from windows 95. The original release of win95 didn't even include internet explorer. It was only available as part of the plus! Pack of addons. The SR1 release had IE v2 included but it could be easily deleted. It wasn't until IE 4 that active desktop became a part of the package and began making it difficult to seperate from the OS. IE 4 came sr2.5 but was an optional upgrade for most win95 instalations.
But i knew what you meant.
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jaredc74 said:
Just a historical footnote. Internet explorer was very easy to remove from windows 95. The original release of win95 didn't even include internet explorer. It was only available as part of the plus! Pack of addons. The SR1 release had IE v2 included but it could be easily deleted. It wasn't until IE 4 that active desktop became a part of the package and began making it difficult to seperate from the OS. IE 4 came sr2.5 but was an optional upgrade for most win95 instalations.
But i knew what you meant.
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haha, I was literally going to add almost exactly this.
Sense seems only to be portable to devices that can run off of HTC-based ROMs. It seems to be much easier to remove it than to try and bring it over (I haven't heard of it being brought to a device that wasn't HTC based). The widgets haven't even been ported to the best of my knowledge to work on non-Sense launchers. And, as proven by our phones, they could have made Sense even MORE integrated considering removing touchwiz launcher causes massive force closes. Also, Sense is proprietary and cosed source, so we don't have any low-level access to remove the HTC restrictions (short of binary hacking, which I know nothing about and could indeed be wrong about)
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haha, I was literally going to add almost exactly this.
Sense seems only to be portable to devices that can run off of HTC-based ROMs. It seems to be much easier to remove it than to try and bring it over (I haven't heard of it being brought to a device that wasn't HTC based). The widgets haven't even been ported to the best of my knowledge to work on non-Sense launchers. And, as proven by our phones, they could have made Sense even MORE integrated considering removing touchwiz launcher causes massive force closes. Also, Sense is proprietary and cosed source, so we don't have any low-level access to remove the HTC restrictions (short of binary hacking, which I know nothing about and could indeed be wrong about)
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Well how the huck did they get Sense on the HD2?? It doesn't even come with android from factory! We need someone to shed a little more light in this. Maybe its because they use some Qualcomm specific images or something.
rafyvitto said:
I've been working on porting sense to our the device for some weeks now but roms fail to boot, changing libs etc, got no clue of what else to try.
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You got a PM
DJGonzo said:
Well how the huck did they get Sense on the HD2?? It doesn't even come with android from factory! We need someone to shed a little more light in this. Maybe its because they use some Qualcomm specific images or something.
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notice how I said I can't see it being ported to a non-HTC device. The HD2 is indeed an HTC device and I believe the ROM that has Sense is one built off of an HTC ROM for another device. Much like how the Legend ROMs were able to be fairly easily/quickly ported to the Aria. In fact, many of the internals of the HD2 resemble a lot of the Android hardware produced by HTC (qualcomm snapdragon and all that good stuff I believe)... the difficulty of getting android on that device had nothing to do with the ROMs, but actually getting haret to boot a linux kernel properly.
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notice how I said I can't see it being ported to a non-HTC device. The HD2 is indeed an HTC device and I believe the ROM that has Sense is one built off of an HTC ROM for another device. Much like how the Legend ROMs were able to be fairly easily/quickly ported to the Aria. In fact, many of the internals of the HD2 resemble a lot of the Android hardware produced by HTC (qualcomm snapdragon and all that good stuff I believe)... the difficulty of getting android on that device had nothing to do with the ROMs, but actually getting haret to boot a linux kernel properly.
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Unless they ported the whole ROM and re used drivers, I don't quite understand how they got it to work.
They got Sense 2.5 working from The HD2 onto the Omnia II (winmo), so its quite possible. We just need a team of developers willing to do the work. I can offer hosting and testing and little technical help since I am new at Android but I think we can get it to work if we start to tinker with it.
Maybe a ROM port is in order?
Maybe we should wait for a Froyo kernel though.
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Unless they ported the whole ROM and re used drivers, I don't quite understand how they got it to work.
They got Sense 2.5 working from The HD2 onto the Omnia II (winmo), so its quite possible. We just need a team of developers willing to do the work. I can offer hosting and testing and little technical help since I am new at Android but I think we can get it to work if we start to tinker with it.
Maybe a ROM port is in order?
Maybe we should wait for a Froyo kernel though.
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I'm not saying it's impossible, I'm saying it hasn't been done. There are (correct me if I'm wrong) absolutely no non-HTC android devices with the Sense UI. I know nothing about the HD2/Omnia II Sense port, but that's WinMo... not even remotely close to Android in terms of interoperability. I also feel like any ROMs designed to bring Sense UI to non-HTC android devices would be hit with C&D's since it's their proprietary software (hence why both Fancy Widget and Beautiful Widgets got in trouble originally when they launched on the market).
Don't get me wrong, good luck in porting it, hell even I like the look of it and would love the option, but considering how long Sense has been out for android (and numerous devices) and we don't see it on any non-HTC android devices, I have to believe it's been tried and just doesn't work (which is why you also don't see MotoBLUR/NinjaBLUR anywhere else either... or even TouchWiz on the EVO)
Also I think the HD2 and the Desire are the same hardware. If not the Desire it's another phone. That also makes porting Android pretty painless.

[Q] Any non-touchwiz ROMs out there?

I know that TeamHacksung is working on an ICS port and CM9 may unofficially be ported to the G-Note at some point, but that's all in the unforeseeable future.
And all the Gingerbread ROMs I see in the development section are ToucWizified.
Am I missing one, or did all the current custom rom "developers" keep their creations totally TouchWiz-bound?
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I know that TeamHacksung is working on an ICS port and CM9 may unofficially be ported to the G-Note at some point, but that's all in the unforeseeable future.
And all the Gingerbread ROMs I see in the development section are ToucWizified.
Am I missing one, or did all the current custom rom "developers" keep their creations totally TouchWiz-bound?
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i´d like a pure (or any none-touchwiz) gingerbread also. so bump.
moonlitex said:
i´d like a pure (or any none-touchwiz) gingerbread also. so bump.
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my previous phone was a HTC hd2. yes window phone. rooted to run android 2.3 with sense and I can tell u, its even faster (scrolling, flip thru menus, contact scrolling) than my gnote. I can say, touchwiz is way way too bloated.
my old phone can use go widget launcher n is still smooth
gnote with 2x the hardware specs, lag!
I am also waiting for a pure rom, not a tweaked stock.
On sgs2 I used miui and it was really, really nice.
son70 said:
my previous phone was a HTC hd2. yes window phone. rooted to run android 2.3 with sense and I can tell u, its even faster (scrolling, flip thru menus, contact scrolling) than my gnote. I can say, touchwiz is way way too bloated.
my old phone can use go widget launcher n is still smooth
gnote with 2x the hardware specs, lag!
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Sense is the one thing i miss from my Desire HD. Touchwiz is nothing in comparison with sense. This is just my opinion, i am sure others would disagree.
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Sense is the one thing i miss from my Desire HD. Touchwiz is nothing in comparison with sense. This is just my opinion, i am sure others would disagree.
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Oh yeah you're taking the words out of my head.. As I sold my Desire HD i'd never thougt of missing sense.. Anyway I always had an AOSP rom.. but now I'm looking into past with tears in my eyes
--> also want some pure roms like cyanogenmod
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Oh yeah you're taking the words out of my head.. As I sold my Desire HD i'd never thougt of missing sense.. Anyway I always had an AOSP rom.. but now I'm looking into past with tears in my eyes
--> also want some pure roms like cyanogenmod
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I miss sense.

[Q] complete stock ASOP rom possible out of the box?

I guess im used to computer types of drivers, kernels, etc.
but I just don't see why we couldn't build a complete stock ASOP rom without any modification other than a specialized kernel?
shouldn't it be able to just "work" because android is still android right?
Sorry for being ignorant lol but could anyone explain why it isn't possible for a raw ASOP rom to run on the vivid?
zacgoesrawr said:
I guess im used to computer types of drivers, kernels, etc.
but I just don't see why we couldn't build a complete stock ASOP rom without any modification other than a specialized kernel?
shouldn't it be able to just "work" because android is still android right?
Sorry for being ignorant lol but could anyone explain why it isn't possible for a raw ASOP rom to run on the vivid?
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It would be possible but company's like htc embed there software deep into the rom and replace most of the vanilla stuff with htc sense. The cyanogen mod that's currently being worked on is from the google nexus so it has to be ported because obviously these aren't the same phones. It would be like taking a hard drive from your Intel installation and trying to use it with an AMD processor. its not going to work because you've basically changed the brain.
alright i got it, thanks!
damn HTC for making sense mandatory and damn AT&T for not having any Google "approved" phones (ASOP Geared)
zacgoesrawr said:
alright i got it, thanks!
damn HTC for making sense mandatory and damn AT&T for not having any Google "approved" phones (ASOP Geared)
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It would be really great if google just made a standard for manufacturers to follow so we could use roms on different devices and then wed have more apps because then developers wouldn't be forced to make there apps for such a wide range of devices. But i guess that would make them to much like apple lol

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