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I was reading this thread [RECOVERY] Monster RootPack 0.7 / Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 SD (1.1 Compatible!). But, since I am new to this forum I couldn't post there. I hope this is the right place to ask for help.
I upgraded my NC to 1.1.0 successfully. I put Autonooter 3.0.0 on a MicroSD card. With my NC off, I inserted the card and then plugged the NC into my PC. I got a black screen for over 5 minutes. It looked like nothing was happening, so, I disconnected the NC, removed the SD card and tired to turn the NC on. No joy, it won't turn on and won't boot at all. I think my Nook is bricked. Any ideas what went wrong?
I've read some other threads about similar problems. It seems there is a fix to get it back to stock (1.1.0). I hope the Recovery thread I mentioned above is where the answer lies. But, I'm a bit confused and don't want to make any more mistakes. I only have one 4GB SD card at my disposal right now.
My questions are as follows:
1. Is my NC bricked beyond hope of recovery?
2. If I follow the procedures in this post can I get it to boot from the sd card even though it won't turn on at all?
3. What is the difference between the Rootpack and the Clockwork Recovery Image?
4. This is the confusing part. Should I download the RootPack? Or, should I download a bootable Clockwork SD card (128mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, 8gb)
5. Since I only have a 4GB card, what should I choose?
6. Should I opt for 1.0.1, or 1.1.0 where it was still working.
7. Can I get all of this on one 4GB card?
8. Is there anything else I should be weary of before starting this procedure?
If i have posted this in the wrong place, I am sorry. But, I hope someone can clear things up for me. Thanks.
This is the right place to ask general questions.
1. Most certainly not.
2. Yes, using a bootable CWR SD is the way to go.
3. Totally different. The Rootpack is the name given to a package that helps you root your Nook. CWR image is a recovery image. That means you can boot to this recovery utility and apply changes to you NC (like repairing stuff, making backups, etc.).
4. An image will adapt to the drive. If you have a 4GB SD and burn (dd) a 1GB image to it, your SD will suddenly present itself as a 1GB SD. If you format it with the right tool, your SD will be 4GB again. So don't panick, if it says 1GB after burning, it's jut "adapted to the image". You haven't lost any disk space.
5. 1GB would be enough, but you can go up to 4GB image with a 4GB.. It could sometimes be a problem to apply an image which is the exact same size as the drive. I would use th 1GB, which is plenty for what you are going to do.
6. That's up to you. Both should work.
7. Yes.
8. Just read threads exhaustively before attempting anything..
So what you need to do is read threads about this CWR Bootable img to learn how to burn it to your SD.
Then, find the appropriate .zip files to flash (apply) (1.1 recovery and 1.0.1 are available in dev section.
Copy them to root of SD.
Boot with the SD Card and apply zip files from SD.
If your NC should still have problems booting, you can also apply a boot repair zip file, that you will find on my Nook Color restore to stock tread in dev..
Sam
His Rootpack wont work on 1.1.0 You should have seen that in his instructions. It will only block 1.1.0 and fake it. You need to see this thread to fix your nook. It is 100% NOT bricked, just messed up atm. You can fix it tho. Read here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949699
Thanks for thr quick reponse Sam. I'm at work now, but will be able to use your suggestions later this afternoon\tonight. So, if I get a 1gb CWR image on my 4gb sd card, plus the 1.1.0 zip file and put it in the root of the sd card, the Nook should boot up even though I can't turn it on now? How long typacally will it take to boot up? What should I expect to see?
I will post results after I try the procedure. Thanks again!!
Thanks Thiboi69. I have printed out the instructions from the link you sent and will follow them to the T. I'll post results later.
It will work. I have never heard of a 100%bricked NookColor to date. And I have read 1,000's of posts here over the past 4 months. IT is just your boot partition that is messed up and B&N made it check the sdcard first for a Boot partition, then fall back to eMMC. Thank you B&N !!!
I downloaded all the files, wrote them to my sd card, and put it in the Nook. When I connected the Nook to my pc, I got a messaage the the battery was too low to turn on. So, I took the sd card out, and put the Nook on charge. After a while, it turned on, booted up and when I checked my OS, I found that I had
version 1.1.0. Apparently, my attempt to root with autonooter 3, never got installed, partially or completely. And, my battery probably got to low to turn the nook on. So, I didn't need to use CWR after all. I apologize to all who have tried to help me. But, all replies were good and contained useful info.
Now, my question is: Should I try to use Autonooter 3 again, or is there an easier
(more foolproof) way to root v1.1.0?
I just got a nook last night with the sole intention of hacking it - and did so in a matter of minutes. Autonooter couldnt be easier! When you get to the part of putting the SD card in the nook and connecting it to USB to make it boot, just plug it in and go get a cup of coffee. Don't unplug or touch anything until it boots up by itself. At 1st I thought it wasn't doing anything as I didn't see a clockwork mod screen come up or anything, but just be patient and it'll tell you when it's done. Just make sure it's pretty well charged when you do it - mine was about 80% or so.
Honestly after less than a day of the rooted stock 2.1 Eclair OS, I'm ready to drop a fully customized Froyo or Gingerbread image on this thing. Autonooter it 1st and run it for a few days 1st and see what you think. I'm still learning the ins and outs of tinkering with this thing, but so far it seems much easier than the Epic and Moment I've been beating on. Seems pretty well unbrickable too thanks to the boot to SD 1st option B&N baked into this puppy.
jostarr said:
I was reading this thread [RECOVERY] Monster RootPack 0.7 / Clockwork Recovery 3.0.0.5 SD (1.1 Compatible!). But, since I am new to this forum I couldn't post there. I hope this is the right place to ask for help.
I upgraded my NC to 1.1.0 successfully. I put Autonooter 3.0.0 on a MicroSD card. With my NC off, I inserted the card and then plugged the NC into my PC. I got a black screen for over 5 minutes. It looked like nothing was happening, so, I disconnected the NC, removed the SD card and tired to turn the NC on. No joy, it won't turn on and won't boot at all. I think my Nook is bricked. Any ideas what went wrong?
I've read some other threads about similar problems. It seems there is a fix to get it back to stock (1.1.0). I hope the Recovery thread I mentioned above is where the answer lies. But, I'm a bit confused and don't want to make any more mistakes. I only have one 4GB SD card at my disposal right now.
My questions are as follows:
1. Is my NC bricked beyond hope of recovery?
2. If I follow the procedures in this post can I get it to boot from the sd card even though it won't turn on at all?
3. What is the difference between the Rootpack and the Clockwork Recovery Image?
4. This is the confusing part. Should I download the RootPack? Or, should I download a bootable Clockwork SD card (128mb, 1gb, 2gb, 4gb, 8gb)
5. Since I only have a 4GB card, what should I choose?
6. Should I opt for 1.0.1, or 1.1.0 where it was still working.
7. Can I get all of this on one 4GB card?
8. Is there anything else I should be weary of before starting this procedure?
If i have posted this in the wrong place, I am sorry. But, I hope someone can clear things up for me. Thanks.
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Joe, I would recommend downloading the 1gb rootpack image and a restore to stock file. Make your bootable clockwork recovery image, place the resotre to stock file on the sdcard, turn your nook off, insert the sdcard, power on and flash the file. All this info and more can be found in my thread here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=949699
Thanks for your suggestion Riley, please take a look at my post # 7 above. Seemd my NC
had a low battery. When I charged it, all was ok. It booted up and I was back in 1.1.0.
But, I just now tried autonooter 3.0.0 again. When I pluged thr NC inyo my PC, I got some sort or warning message. I hit cancel and waited a few minutes. The message came up again. It said the device was not recognized. I unplugged, removed the card, and my fully charged NV won't turn on. And, windows explorer can not read the sd card. This is basically what happened yesterday to cause my panic. The sd card had all the files befor I inserted it into the NC. Now, it's unreadable and I can't turn on or boot the NC again.
Is it autonooter 3.0.0, or the card, or the Nook, or me?????
One correction to post # 10. I can read the sd card in windows explorer. But my NC won't turn on.
With sd card out of the Nook, I get a "Welcome to the Found New Hardware Wizzard"
What does this tell anyone about the condition of my Nook?
I am having a problem and don't really know what to do. When I start my NC its stops at the N screen and goes no further. I've tried a lot of the different ways to get it back to stock with no luck. When I try to write CWM to my SD card with win32 it either doesn't have enough room to put the stock file on the zip with it or when I open the SD card it says the card needs to be formatted. The file is a tr.gz or something like that is there a step between that I am missing or just download the CWM and write to SD using win32? I also tried adb with no luck. I am very new to rooting so any super dumbed down instructions would be greatly appreciated.
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You can put the rom image to a separate SD card. Just swap it after you boot up from cwr. I did it before for flashing froyo to emmc.
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72chevy2k2 said:
I am having a problem and don't really know what to do. When I start my NC its stops at the N screen and goes no further. I've tried a lot of the different ways to get it back to stock with no luck. When I try to write CWM to my SD card with win32 it either doesn't have enough room to put the stock file on the zip with it or when I open the SD card it says the card needs to be formatted. The file is a tr.gz or something like that is there a step between that I am missing or just download the CWM and write to SD using win32? I also tried adb with no luck. I am very new to rooting so any super dumbed down instructions would be greatly appreciated.
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Have you followed the restore-to-stock procedure outlined in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690
Just a noobish advise!
After configure everything and become accustomed to some of the NC behaviors this should not matter, but I remember at my first attempts at rooting the NC, using a Win7 PC was much easier than using Win XP or iOS devices. Might fix your 'not recognized' problems, sd card recognition and formatting problems etc.
It has CWM on it. I can get it to recovery but it will not recognize the SD or not mount it and I go to mount it in the menu and it says something like can not mount SD card so I have been trying to do the CWM SD burn but I keep getting the above errors I am on a vista computer so I will try it on my windows 7 one and see how that goes. And the different SD card one I will try that as well after work thank you for the help.
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RickOSidhe said:
Have you followed the restore-to-stock procedure outlined in this thread?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=914690
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Yes I did try that one I put the nookie froyo on the SD and put it I'm my turned off NC and plugged it in to my computer and it sat at the N screen forever and after a while I took it off and it was still in the same state could the CWM be the problem?
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I'm not sure what posts 13 thru 18 have to do with my problem???
Just didn't feel like starting a new thread for the couple of questions I had along the same line as yours.
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now I realize I'll prolly get the lynch mob soon after i post this... being that all the research is over in the dev section, but my question is fairly complicated and i cant seem to find a direct answer from my own reading.
now i have root on my NC and i would love to put a custom recovery/rom on my NC. could any one point me in the right direction to get me started loading a custom recovery? i dont want to run froyo off of an SD card i would love to have it just be a giant version of my phone(I'm sorry if that's asking to much)
i learned and pushed myself to do it a while back on my EVO 4g when i saw there was a rom with wimax capability's and that was my first time rooting anything. I do on the other hand work as a sprint instore service and repair tech. so all of this reading isnt completely lost on me.
and my second question. when i booted my nook back up after i let the battery die, all my setting and apps were gone. any one know anything about it?
thank you for any answer, and I'm very sorry about my spelling and grammar, i know it sucks >.<
i think my biggest confusion/hangup so far has been the custom recovery not sure if i have this right or not but. these are the steps (i think) i need to take.
1. aquire root. [check]
2.custom recovery.[?]
3.custom kernel.[?]
4. custom rom.[?]
So what you want to do is flash a custom rom? You would just download a CWM sd card image. Burn that image to your SD card. Then, grab the rom you want, such as nookie-froyo, or whatever. Copy that zip to the SD card.
Put the SD card into your nook, then reboot. It should boot into CWR and from there you can just flash the zip. The same thing with a custom kernel, just copy the zip onto your CWM sd card, reboot, and flash the zip.
I'm not sure if that is what you are asking, though.
I've actually figured it all out finally. is there any way to see what my CPU is running at?
The speed of your NC can be done by downloading 2 free apps in the market:
Linpack for Android
Quadrant Standard
The Linpack app will tell you how many MFLOPS (Millions of Floating Point Operations Per Second) and Quadrant will give you a score to benchmark for CPU, I/O, and graphics. They will also give you as a reference how you compare to other devices.
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So what you want to do is flash a custom rom? You would just download a CWM sd card image. Burn that image to your SD card. Then, grab the rom you want, such as nookie-froyo, or whatever. Copy that zip to the SD card.
Put the SD card into your nook, then reboot. It should boot into CWR and from there you can just flash the zip. The same thing with a custom kernel, just copy the zip onto your CWM sd card, reboot, and flash the zip.
I'm not sure if that is what you are asking, though.
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So I'm new to Nook. In fact it's still being shipped for the wife, lol. Little that she knows, it's getting nootered before it even gets in her hands.
I've rooted phones and flashed custom ROMs.
From what you're saying above, does CWM reside solely on the SD card? That's different than a mobile phone. So any time we need to install a custom ROM (even the first time), we'd have to boot using the SD Card that has CWM, right? Of course I'd have to root the nook first.
following should really go into a different thread:
So whats the best ROM? So many out there. I just want to be able to use all google apps and market (for kindle app).
Thanks in advance.
jackal424 said:
From what you're saying above, does CWM reside solely on the SD card? That's different than a mobile phone. So any time we need to install a custom ROM (even the first time), we'd have to boot using the SD Card that has CWM, right? Of course I'd have to root the nook first.
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You can still install Clockwork from the market and it'll run of the NC without an SD card. I've done it. But for the installation of CM7 (something to do with EXT4? I don't even know what that means...) CWM on an SD was necessary.
On what the best ROM is. Well, looking in the general section subsection here it looks like a lot of people are on rooted stock 1.1. I tried Froyo and it was cool and all, but I missed having the full 8GB of storage on the nook. I haven't tried Honeycomb yet, so no idea on that one. I currently have CM7 nightly 8 on my NC and really like it. I may not have all the storage space still (they're working on it) but it's snappy and sleek.
How to root your brand new Nook Color - For Noobs on windows - I'm sure this will all work from Mac too, but I do not have one so I don't know
-I know there are plenty of threads our there for this - but I figured I would compile my journey to root so that anyone slightly confused with the process of rooting, starting over and re-flashing stock nook, using root explorer is all in one area.
First things First - Without the Cyanogenmod team, everyone who has a hand in this at XDA, Dalingrin's overclock, everyone who compiled the files for recovery, Clockworkmod team, iomonster, everyone! This wouldn't be possible. Drop by their websites and buy them a beer or two.
Secondly - I am not responsible for any damage at all, if you don't follow simple instruction then too bad for you. Also, none of the above mentioned folks are responsible for any damage to your Nook Color (NC).
NOW FOR ROOT!!!
go to http://nookdevs.com/NookColor_Rooting and follow the instructions. Download the appropriate autonooter for your software version. (this can be checked on the nook by going to settings, device info, about nook)
Follow the helpful people at NookDevs instructions and thank them for their help!
After you achieve root you should see Market app in your extras tab in the Original Nook Software, This is good, if you don't go back and try again. Now pull out your card(dont forget to unmount and format) , and turn off your nook .
Let's Begin With CM7
First you will need to make yourself a bootable clockworkmod (CWM) to run your installation from -
download winimage for your PC - http://www.winimage.com/download.htm and install the appropriate file (obviously x86 for 32 bit PC, and x64 for 64 bit)
install it!
next download 7-Zip to extract the files!!! http://www.7-zip.org/
when installed go to tools/options/ and make sure tar is checked and gz is checked. You might as well select all!
Next download bootable clockwork image http://tsunade.net/nookdev/clockwork/0.1-ext4/
I used the 1GB one on my 8GB class 4 card. It burns faster and works just fine!
Burning Process!
First insure that your already formatted card is formatted by formatting again! woot for the word format! Next-
On a computer open win image
click ok!
plug in your microSD card
click on Disk tab
go down to restore virtual Hard Disk Image
Select your microSD
find the place you saved the image after extracting through 7zip (I saved to Desktop)
Click OK and it should start burning
after five minutes or so the image will be written to the microSD card
Now to install CM7!!!!!!!!!! Drop by their page if you want and donate some beer money!!!!
Download these files!
http://mirror.cyanogenmod.com/?device=encore&type=nightly (CM7 Encore ZIP - Get the latest one)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/index.php?title=Latest_Version/Google_Apps (google apps file!!!!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=925451] (Dalingrins!!!!! OVERCLOCK - even if you don't need this, you WANT THIS (my attempt at a jedi mind trick) just do it).
download the zip files and put them on that 1GB cwm bootable SD card you made!!, and copy the the zip files to the ROOT of the sd card i.e just drag and drop them into the sd card.
Now safely remove and plug the card in to the nook color
it will boot up into CWM - go to this page http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11535969&postcount=151 and start at the installing section number 2!!! Thanks Faceman66 Only follow the install section and first boot section up until 2 if you have a DLINK router!!!! this is very important!!!! Once your done with the installation again, make sure to format the microSD card, do not use cyanogen it will mess everythin up, format it through your computer.
Dlink router connection issue!
The wifi in cyanogen just scans and disconnects constantly without connecting. Skip all of the first boot process like signing in to google, etc. Just get into the main screen of your new ROM. Connect it via USB to computer and "turn on USB storage" in the drop down notification bar.
Now preferably purchase the Root Explorer App on your phone or on your computer (you wont be able to access the nook color CM7 market yet. If you find it by other means I dont want to hear about it. if you download on your phone, download astro file manager as well, open astro file manager and click menu, tools, application backup. Find root explorer, back it up, pull it off your phone to the computer by searching the SD card for the "backups folder" and then drag and drop it onto your nook SD card. Use CM7 file explorer, find the APK and then install. Now using root explorer go to
/system/etc/wifi/ and find the tiwlan.ini file, at the top of the screen youll notice a button that says Mount R/W, click it. now press and hold on tiwlan.ini and open in text editor. go down about half way to find WifiAdhoc = 1 or something to that affect.
WiFiAdhoc is set to 1 on the cm7 builds but if you need change it to 0 for wpa/wpa2 will work.
Once that is set to 0, reboot, and connect to your internets.
WHAT IF I MESSED EVERYTHING UP AND MY NOOK COLOR IS BRICKED! IMPOSSIBLE! just follow these instructions!!!! Thanks to HittingSmoke over at addictive tips
This guide is broken and bricks the Nook. The problem is, it tells you to format /boot when you should NOT format boot.
If you have the black screen because of following this guide, here’s how to fix it:
Format your SD card and re burn that 1GB cwm image (It worked perfect for Me)
Next, download:
http://www.etoile-laconnex.com/nook-complete-restore-1.0.1.zip
and
http://www.multiupload.com/VEJFMO05BV
Copy them both to the SD card that you made with winImager.
Put in the SD card and hold the power button until it boots into recovery again.
Under Mounts and Storage, format /boot, /system, /data and /cache
Using the “Install zip from sdcard” option, flash “repartition-boot-with-stock.zip” THEN “nook-complete-restore-1.0.1.zip”
Take out the SD, reboot and you’ll be back to a working stock Nook.
After that, follow this guide:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=11535969&postcount=151
and/or go to the top to try again.
Note: Do NOT use your Nook to format the SD card after installing CM7. There’s a bug and it will format /boot instead, returning you to the black screen problem and you’ll have to repeat the process. This is TRUE WITH PHONES AND THE NOOK COLOR
Thanks again to everyone's contribution - I do not own the rights to any of this and am not the original finder/creator/designer of any of these tips and tricks.
Sorry you feel that way about Mac users. I will get the information from somewhere else.
Simply one of the best tutorials out there. So many of the custom roms overlook the documentation.
I am stuck on the boot logo ( the part where the android is being scribbled in directly after i plugged in the nook cable after first loading the sd card with winimage. It never goes past halfway on the scribble animation, and i am wondering if I may have done something wrong. Please reply.
You may need to go through the steps again to get it to work, it shouldnt hurt anything to do. Also try to write a different winimage and a different size download. If you have bigger than a 1gb card, i recommend getting the 1gb image file
first post on nook forum just order one after reading for 2 weeks about development cant wait to get it and use this guide to root it...
I'm guessing when you say format sd card your means fat 32 correct? Also once done with everything do you suggest to parition sd card to allow a2sd or data2ext? Our use titanium back up when updating rom...
I actually dont usually use titanium back up but if you want to partition and use titanium backup, cm 7 will defenitely support it. Format in fat 32 definitely. Luckily now CM7 has fixed the D-Link issue so you should be good on text editing and the whole process should be expedited alot with how hard Cyanogenmod team has worked to make a pretty flawless copy of CM7 for Encore (Nook Color). Im running CM7.02 and it is fast, sleek and sexy!
v/r
Drew
I tried this on my nook color and when it booted it showed the default nook icon with the adobe copyright warning, for a second, then it showed a cyanogen mod logo for a second then a screen that said install failed reboot to try again. I thing that some part of the nook android is still there and is messing up the CM install. Any ideas?
candreasen said:
I tried this on my nook color and when it booted it showed the default nook icon with the adobe copyright warning, for a second, then it showed a cyanogen mod logo for a second then a screen that said install failed reboot to try again. I thing that some part of the nook android is still there and is messing up the CM install. Any ideas?
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First, what version is your Nook Color? These are outdated steps and files. Second, this is rooting (gaining superuser access and installing apps) and not installing CM7 or a custom rom. Can you tell us what exactly you did so we can try and help out more?
It is the BNRV200. I believe it had the latest BN firmware because I got it about 2 weeks ago.
drewbacca said:
Now to install CM7!!!!!!!!!!
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This seems to say otherwise about the installing CM7.
candreasen said:
It is the BNRV200. I believe it had the latest BN firmware because I got it about 2 weeks ago.
This seems to say otherwise about the installing CM7.
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If you're installing CM7, go here and read about the new partition guide since you probably have the new partition on yours.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1030227
If you're rooting, go here. (You can also re-partition, go back to stock then root.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1054027
I bought the original Nook Color back in Nov. 2010. I went through all the methods back in the day, when guys first started rooting the Nook and all the problems we had back then ... side loading apps ... adhoc issues ... B&N updates ect ... we got CWM recoveries and finally we got fully working froyo's and Gingerbread's. Then CM7's and the Phiredrop's.
I been through it all. I ended up giving my Nook to my son, and he loved it. I got into Android Development Cell (ROMS). I Now got my Nook back from my son. It is working, but I have forgotten a lot about how to mod it .... mainly the partition tables, and how the bootloader runs. Does it look to the eMMC first ? or the SD-Card ? Can we flash from both locations ?
Anyways ... He has it setup weird now. It has a dual boot menu, I can boot into CM7 or CM9, But it is acting up and some stuff doesn't work. He also says it can boot into Stock 1.4.2 somehow *shrug*
I have done some searching here on xda but it is a lot of OLD posts and dead links.
Could you guys help me out with a few questions ?
01) I would like to wipe EVERYTHING from eMMC abd SD-Card and start over. I know I can format the uSD and also format the eMMC, but Can I flash a SD with a CWM image and then install Stock 1.4.2 on the eMMC. Do I even need to install stock first ? What is the best method for this ?
02) Will I need to nooter my nook again at this point if I do that ?
03) Can I run CWM on the SD and run a nandroid backup to that same SD if it is a large SD-Card ? I thought I could since the bootloader looks at uSD first (but I guess it looks at the boot partition huh ? ) my son says NO you can not run CWM and have a nandroid backup on that same SD. Yes or No ?
Bottom line is this is what I’m trying to do……
01a) I could care less about stock B&N.
02a) I just want a Nook that will dual boot into CM7 and / or CM9 preferably from my 16 GIG SD-Card but it really doesn’t matter, as long as I can install app’s to the external SD-Card.
03a) I want a way to backup the entire CM7 or CM9 via CWM to my SD-Card.
NOTE: I have a (1) 16 GIG SD-Card (1) 4 GIG SD-Card and (1) 8 GIG SD-Card.
If you could help me out with any info at all on any of this, please do so. I am mostly Android literate and I have a working ADB on my win7. I just have forgotten exactly how the nook operates at the lowest level, and how the newer CM's are flashed now after a clean format
Thank you for your time and help to any of my questions.
Peace
Thibor69 said:
the partition tables, and how the bootloader runs. Does it look to the eMMC first ? or the SD-Card ? Can we flash from both locations ?
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Partition talbes and mount points
The Nook Color boots from uSD first... then eMMC if there is no bootable uSD in the card slot.
Thibor69 said:
I have done some searching here on xda but it is a lot of OLD posts and dead links.
Could you guys help me out with a few questions ?
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Browsing the developer forum would be very beneficial... as there are constantly new posts... so almost all of this is covered in recent posts.
Thibor69 said:
01) I would like to wipe EVERYTHING from eMMC abd SD-Card and start over. I know I can format the uSD and also format the eMMC, but Can I flash a SD with a CWM image and then install Stock 1.4.2 on the eMMC. Do I even need to install stock first ? What is the best method for this ?
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Create a new bootable CWM recovery uSD and place one of the files from here on it.
Boot into CWM and flash the file you downloaded.
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02) Will I need to nooter my nook again at this point if I do that ?
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Only if you want stock to be rooted... not necessary if are going to flash a different ROM to eMMC or don't care about stock root access. If you choose to root stock.... use this thread
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03) Can I run CWM on the SD and run a nandroid backup to that same SD if it is a large SD-Card ? I thought I could since the bootloader looks at uSD first (but I guess it looks at the boot partition huh ? ) my son says NO you can not run CWM and have a nandroid backup on that same SD. Yes or No ?
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Yes.... I do that frequently.. the thing is... the nandroid backup will be of the eMMC unless you use one of the modified CWM's designed for SD installs.
Additionally... if you are going to run that from a uSD with another ROM on it... you will certainly have to adjust the boot partition on the uSD to be large enough to hold the nandroid you are creating.
Thibor69 said:
Bottom line is this is what I’m trying to do……
01a) I could care less about stock B&N.
02a) I just want a Nook that will dual boot into CM7 and / or CM9 preferably from my 16 GIG SD-Card but it really doesn’t matter, as long as I can install app’s to the external SD-Card.
03a) I want a way to backup the entire CM7 or CM9 via CWM to my SD-Card.
NOTE: I have a (1) 16 GIG SD-Card (1) 4 GIG SD-Card and (1) 8 GIG SD-Card.
If you could help me out with any info at all on any of this, please do so. I am mostly Android literate and I have a working ADB on my win7. I just have forgotten exactly how the nook operates at the lowest level, and how the newer CM's are flashed now after a clean format
Thank you for your time and help to any of my questions.
Peace
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Create a new bootable CWM recovery uSD and place one of the files from here on it.
Boot into CWM and flash the file you downloaded.
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So you are saying that I can do it in this order:
1) Format eMMC ( only boot partition right ? )
2) Format uSD ( resize boot partition to a larger size for backups )
3) Create bootable CWM uSB ( any particular one you recommend ? )
4) Put one of the stocks 1.4.x files on the uSB then flash it
5) Put CM7 or CM9 on uSB and flash it
Question: Do I need to flash stock 1.4.x even tho I dont want it ? or can I skip step #4 ?
Thanks
Thibor69 said:
So you are saying that I can do it in this order:
1) Format eMMC ( only boot partition right ? )
2) Format uSD ( resize boot partition to a larger size for backups )
3) Create bootable CWM uSB ( any particular one you recommend ? )
4) Put one of the stocks 1.4.x files on the uSB then flash it
5) Put CM7 or CM9 on uSB and flash it
Question: Do I need to flash stock 1.4.x even tho I dont want it ? or can I skip step #4 ?
Thanks
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Item 1) highly NOT recommended. There is no point to format /boot.
Item 2) if "uSD" means the external microSD card, then, no, you don't need to format it since it will be done in step 3 of your list.
Item 3) Get the CwMR version 3.2.0.1. And call it "flashable CwMR uSD", not uSB.
Item 4) If you don't want stock, leave it out as no point to touch it.
Item 5) After done step 3 above, put CM7 OR CM9 in there, the CwMR uSD, and flash.
Strongly suggestion: before doing anything. Be sure you know what you trying to do or at least, pls let us know what you try to accomplish. For example, do you try to run CM7 or CM9? Do you want to run it from the external uSD card or from eMMC? Instructions are different.
votinh said:
Item 1) highly NOT recommended. There is no point to format /boot.
Item 2) if "uSD" means the external microSD card, then, no, you don't need to format it since it will be done in step 3 of your list.
Item 3) Get the CwMR version 3.2.0.1. And call it "flashable CwMR uSD", not uSB.
Item 4) If you don't want stock, leave it out as no point to touch it.
Item 5) After done step 3 above, put CM7 OR CM9 in there, the CwMR uSD, and flash.
Strongly suggestion: before doing anything. Be sure you know what you trying to do or at least, pls let us know what you try to accomplish. For example, do you try to run CM7 or CM9? Do you want to run it from the external uSD card or from eMMC? Instructions are different.
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Hello -
Thank you for the update info. Glad I asked first. Thank you Dizzy for your help, you have been a big help to me in the past also. Votinh thank you for your reply. Looking back at what I wrote I see many mistakes in my process. Thanks for correcting them.
Now ... as to your question Votinh. What is it I am trying to do.
First off this is what I currently have. Nook is working, but not well and just a mess in general. Sometimes it locks up or just runs at a crawl. ( I have CPU oc'd to 1200 ) I have CM7 and CM9 but can't seem to boot into CM9 anymore at all. I also have CWM v3.2.0.1 installed on my external SD-Card with a nandroid backup.
I just want to erase it all and start over : )
I want my Nook to be able to Dual Boot into CM7 and CM9. I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card, BUT if that is not easy or possible then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external. I dont need stock.
If all else fails ... or just to complicated I could live with just CM9 (nightlies or stable) with all APPS installed to external SD. and forget about dual boot.
Again thank you .... and please ask me any more questions you might need to help clarify my goal.
Peace
Thibor69 said:
Hello -
Thank you for the update info. Glad I asked first. Thank you Dizzy for your help, you have been a big help to me in the past also. Votinh thank you for your reply. Looking back at what I wrote I see many mistakes in my process. Thanks for correcting them.
Now ... as to your question Votinh. What is it I am trying to do.
First off this is what I currently have. Nook is working, but not well and just a mess in general. Sometimes it locks up or just runs at a crawl. ( I have CPU oc'd to 1200 ) I have CM7 and CM9 but can't seem to boot into CM9 anymore at all. I also have CWM v3.2.0.1 installed on my external SD-Card with a nandroid backup.
I just want to erase it all and start over : )
I want my Nook to be able to Dual Boot into CM7 and CM9. I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card, BUT if that is not easy or possible then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external. I dont need stock.
If all else fails ... or just to complicated I could live with just CM9 (nightlies or stable) with all APPS installed to external SD. and forget about dual boot.
Again thank you .... and please ask me any more questions you might need to help clarify my goal.
Peace
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So far, everything you've asked are doable, in fact, a lot of members currently having the same system you describe.
Firstly, "I would like both CM9 and CM7 on my 16 GiG SD-Card" is called "dual-boot, it is a true dual-boot.
Go thank "racks11479" for his tremendous work
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1448186
Note: both CM7 AND CM9 are on the external uSD card.
Secondly, "then I would like CM7 on internal and CM9 on external."; since your wish is granted , this is just an option for you. Yes, you can easily install CM7 in eMMC (aka internal memory) and booting CM9 off uSD as you want.
For references:
Boot CM7/CM9 off uSD, thank verygreen.
Link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1000957
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Update from my last link
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1576879
Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
Wait a minute. Alan Moore doesn't live in Scottsdale!
Whatever. Swamp Thing is awesome. You can live wherever you want
mateorod said:
Wait a minute. Alan Moore doesn't live in Scottsdale!
Whatever. Swamp Thing is awesome. You can live wherever you want
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Wow ... good call brother. Not many people know the face.
Peace
Thibor69 said:
Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
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Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
Mr72 has good instructions for getting 7.2 up and running on eMMC, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292
You'll want to use his directions to load the image found in mrg666's thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
Dalingrins would be redundant as it is already part of this build. You *will* want to run the V6 script as it is well worth it.
Once you've got that going well you should have read around enough to be able to load CM9 nightlies on an SD card. You *do* have a Sandisk card, right?
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Ok ... got it. But If I just want to install to SD external ... can I format the internal eMMC ? And my last question .... I see your signature and what you run. You recomend CM7.2RC1 MiRAGE KANG on eMMC and Dalingrins kernel. You like that setup the best ? I think I will try that setup now. What version of CWM should I use for that and were will CWM be eMMC also ? or can I backup to SDCard.
Thanks once again
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In bold: sure, but what do you try to do? Format the internal so that you can install something else on it?
I currently have CM7.2-RC1 Kang running on eMMC, it is really good.
Booting off uSD is more like for experimental, play it for a while to see if we like it or not. For trying, I recommend using uSD.
I have not spent more time on CM9 since I don't see much of the benefit of it.
Also, MisRy covered pretty well there.
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Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
Mr72 has good instructions for getting 7.2 up and running on eMMC, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1443292
You'll want to use his directions to load the image found in mrg666's thread here, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1344873
Dalingrins would be redundant as it is already part of this build. You *will* want to run the V6 script as it is well worth it.
Once you've got that going well you should have read around enough to be able to load CM9 nightlies on an SD card. You *do* have a Sandisk card, right?
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Thanks for the info Misry. I have many sd cards and have used them all will good results. My Sandisk is only 4 gig ... so it was not going to be my first choice. I also have a Class 4 8 Gig Kinston I was thinking of using. Or a Class 10 16 Gig Patriot, which I know people dont like, but it seems to work fine in my phones ....?
Magus-
The difference in the SD card class as far as speed comes down to the size of the information we want to write. The lower classes aren't very fast with the large hunks of info, but excel with the tiny byte exchange used in the ROM. As the speed of your system will really be affected by the slow I/O rates of something like a class 10, compromise on size before class. It may be counter intuitive, but people have given up on cyanogen in general only because they had the wrong sdcard. This is especially true if you have a dual boot and are running the ROM off of the sdcard itself.
Look at the "strange results or how I learned to love cm" or something thread. Google that with xda and nook and you'll find it. That has all the info you'd want and way more.
Do another book with Eddie Campbell and we'll call it square. You know you want to.
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Once again, NEVER format the eMMC short of a catastrophic event, (sometimes referred to in tech circles as a Mountain Dew Event.)
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Well I was testing a homemade script and I believe I did in fact format eMMC and either scrambled the boot partition or deleted it also on emmc. No mater what I do I can not get eMMC to boot. I can boot cwm from SD-card, but nothing on eMMC.
Advice ?? please be as technical as needed. I do not have Linux right now, but I do have adb on win7 and 3 sd-cards
THanks
Well, let's see what we're working with...
$ su
# fdisk -l /dev/block/mmcblk0
Post the output of the above. It'll show what partitions are left (if any) and then we can take it from there. This can be a hassle indeed, and it will require some research as I have avoided doing this myself. I am hoping your ROM partition is still intact, at least.
Anybody else who can help, please do. I may not be able to respond as often as I would like.
I was gonna suggest 8+1 to see if we can get back to square one.
http://nookdevs.com/NookColor/RestoreToStock
He's gonna need a ROM partition for that to work.
For a long time, 8 failed boots would (as a last resort) result in a working Nook for just about every problem. But, as users are getting more experienced across the board, more advanced and dangerous stuff is being attempted.
When everything goes right, it can be pretty rewarding, but when it goes wrong...well, let's just say the solutions become a lot more advanced as well.
The output of the command will let us know which partitions are erased and if any are still intact. Considering the information we have so far, I am not hopeful. If the emmc was erased and formatted...well, we'll see.
Here's what has occoured:
over-wrote the following partitions with "0":
# 0p7 = /cache
# 0p1 = /boot
# 0p5 = /system
# 0p6 = /data
Then formatted 5-7 ext4. Flashing a ROM with a blank boot partition has been done on another device many times with no issues, for some odd reason this nook responded poorly and I believe the the boot.img never copied over to 0p1.
I am not sure what all he tried but I know he tried the flashable emmc fixer, which didnt' fix it. I am actually concerned that made it worse, but that's my opinion and I don't have my hands on the device. For what ever reason he couldn't get adb working with the device. I found this thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=919353
And since ADB wouldn't work, I wrote a script and created a flashable zip for him so it would perform the same operation, but it stopped saying bad zip. He tested it with 7zip and there were no errors, I checked my script and I see no errors in it and yes, I used a proper program for it as well, NotePad++. He's a bit frustrated and sending it to me. I am confident that if none of the things he tried didn't completely scramble the internal partitions that I can get it working. But if anyone has any idea as to why the script would fail, let me know.
Edit: And correct me if I am wrong, but it's the lack of a kernel which caused it to respond so badly. A similar thing happened on our phone but was due to powering off with a blank boot partition (not our noob moment but someone else's), but being that it's a tegra 2 system we have Nvflash and all is easily rectified. My theory is that there's something, most likely memory, which is loaded by the kernel and is required for a recovery to run.
He tried the 8 failed boot and it did bring up something which ended with an error about no boot partition, I'll try to get the picture he showed me later, I need to run off to work right now.
... Nevermind
Волк said:
For what ever reason he couldn't get adb working with the device.
And since ADB wouldn't work...
But if anyone has any idea as to why the script would fail, let me know.
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First, why in heaven's name would you purposely want to write zeros on the boot partition?
Second, adb was not working because there was no kernel or ramdisk on the boot partition since you had him zero it out. Adb needs both.
If he was trying to flash your zip with CWM from a bootable SD card, then the zip needs to be properly signed before CWM will flash it. You can have CWM toggle off that check, but I doubt he did that. Hence the bad zip error.
Also if he has his CM7 SD card still working, he can repair the emmc partitions using the terminal emulator from CM7. All the adb type commands can be run from there.
The boot partition probably needs to be reformated to vfat before it can accept any files from a CWM restore.
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
2) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
2a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
santinod15 said:
THANK YOU IN ADVANCE FOR ANY HELP! I'm dead new with android and just got a Nook HD+ 32gb (groupon deal $130)
anyway, I've done a ton of reading on here and watched a bunch of youtube vids- i don't know if people use overlapping terminology that means the same things or what.. and also seems like theres a lot of opinions in the forums.
I want basically the full android experience and root access- like i said, never used any android, but i like toying around with these things. BUT i also really want a fully stable platform- don't want constant crashing or it reseting on me.
questions i have-
1)the CWM is the "program" (don't know the correct terminology) that basically gives me the access to back up and install new roms, root, etc? TWRP does the same thing- but i understand you don't use that?
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CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
2)If i have a BRAND NEW nook HD+ do i need to back it up before messing with it OR are the "stock rom" zips you provided just that?
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You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
3) with the SD card image, do i need to put a specific image on the specified sd card. i.e. 4gb SD gets a 4gb image? or is the image universal to whatever size SD card i get?
3a) What problems am i going to run into using my mac to make the SD card, if any? what program do i need to use?
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Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
4) when you back up through CWM where does it save it? to the SD card?
4a) this is where i was confused about the image, reading into some of the posts it led me to think the image file took up the entirety of the
SD card.
4b)So in the future i could just boot from the SD card and would have the option to flash the stock rom back on the HD+ if desired? and/or
go back to CM?
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It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
5) what is DUALBOOTING? and NANDROID? how do they tie into CWM and CM10. very confused about this.
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Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
6) any disadvantage to flashing the EMMC vs booting from SD card every time? I THINK i want to flash the emmc, i don't want to be tied to booting from the SD card everytime- if I'm understanding that correctly.
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The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
7)what is this "trim" lag problem? couldn't really figure out what people were talking about.
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LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
thanks a ton for any help you can give me- I'm sure you receive a lot of questions!
-Sonny
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leapinlar said:
CWM (ClockworkMod) is a recovery program that allows you to do just what you said. TWRP is also a recovery, but uses the touch screen instead of hardware keys to control it.
You can either use the CWM backup tool to return your device to stock (including any data you have already created, like registration) or the plain stock zips I have will also return you to stock, but the way it was when you got it new before registering.
Since you have a Mac, the best way to do it is the new procedure without burning an image. Since I don't have a Mac, I don't know the exact programs to use. I think SDFormatter comes in a Mac version. And I know there are lots of mac partitioning programs to set the first partition active. And using the procedure does use all of the SD, so it is best to use a relatively small one, 2-4GB.
It saves it either to the SD card or internal memory, you choose.
Yes it uses all of the SD if you use the new procedure. But you need that if you choose to backup to SD. A backup takes about 1.5GB.
And yes, save the SD for future use, like restoring backups or installing new ROMs.
Dual booting means having one operating system on internal memory (also called emmc for Embedded MultiMedia Card) and one installed to a bootable SD. Most people that dual boot have stock on internal and CM on SD. They are separate and independent from each other.
Nandroid just means internal memory. So a nandroid backup means backing up whatever you have on internal memory.
The only advantage to booting to CM on SD is it leaves internal memory untouched for warranty reasons. The disadvantage is it runs slower and is less stable.
LAG is a complex issue to explain. If you are used to hard drives getting fragmented and slowing down your system, LAG is similar but a different mechanism with solid state flash drives. TRIM is a process to undo what causes LAG. But some of the solid state chips in these devices have a bug and when TRIM is run, it bricks the chip, making it unusable.
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THANK YOU.. so much answered for me