[Q] General rooting questions - Captivate Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hello. You all are great. I have read the faq and other threads but have not seen my questions clearly answered. Forgive me, but I am a noob and nervous. I have some general questions. I want to root but not flash a new rom. There are several programs I want that require rooting, e.g. keep lights on, non-market apps, tethering. How great is the risk to have just a rooted phone, no new rom, and continue normal daily use? Superone click has rooting and unrooting. Does unrooting to install any AT&T updates cause problems. I envision rooting, loading a couple of programs and leaving it alone. If I root must it remain rooted after installing the programs for them to operate. Or, can I root, install programs, and then unroot? Again, thanks for all your help.

Rooting is non-destructive. If a program requires root to install, it likely requires it to run as it will need to access superuser permissions. If you remove root those programs will no longer run. Rooting is probably the most basic mod you can do to your phone. I've heard of it failing, but I've not seen anyone damage or brick their phone with it. Do it and forget it. It should have no effect on any future updates as they will probably come via Kies Mini and not OTA, but I doubt we'll see any more. You should update to stock Froyo 2.2 before you root.

snobosh said:
Hello. You all are great. I have read the faq and other threads but have not seen my questions clearly answered. Forgive me, but I am a noob and nervous. I have some general questions. I want to root but not flash a new rom. There are several programs I want that require rooting, e.g. keep lights on, non-market apps, tethering. How great is the risk to have just a rooted phone, no new rom, and continue normal daily use? Superone click has rooting and unrooting. Does unrooting to install any AT&T updates cause problems. I envision rooting, loading a couple of programs and leaving it alone. If I root must it remain rooted after installing the programs for them to operate. Or, can I root, install programs, and then unroot? Again, thanks for all your help.
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I used the all in one. You can find it in the development forum.
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Thank you. I looked at the all in one option and I have to say it appears daunting and a bit intimidating. Is it necessary simply for rooting? It seems to be aimed at those wishing to replace the roms. I have read rather a bunch on all of these methods. I am leaning towards z4root or superoneclick. Any opinions/advice regarding these or others is appreciated. I read somewhere that for superoneclick for the ATT captivate one needs to chnge to rage against the cage from psneuter. Is that correct?

The change to rage is only if you are already on stock Froyo. Super 1-click works fine for Eclair.

Super one click..as easy as it sounds
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Miami_Son said:
The change to rage is only if you are already on stock Froyo. Super 1-click works fine for Eclair.
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Super 1 click works fine for Froyo as well. I used it when I test drove official 2.2. It was a earlier version though (1.51). Not sure if that made a difference.

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[Q] Best method to root, lag fix, remove AT&T crap and side load?

Hi All,
I've seem several all-in-one methods to root, lag fix, remove AT&T crap and side loads. I'm wondering if anyone can tell me which method is the best and safest method.
I'm also still hesitant on rooting my Captivate. Not sure exactly why I would want to do this in the first place. But I am so tempted to do the Lag fix. I'm also wondering if I should wait until froyo comes out than root and apply the lag fix?
Mike
follow the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
and when it comes to rooting it, dont.
just go flash the unleash the beast rom and it also tells you how to enable sideloading which will let you download applications from outside the market
Unleash the beast is the first thing I do after a flash.
Then there are a few addons (like market access) from that pdf that are nice.
What is the market access for?
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mets3214 said:
follow the steps here
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=735482
and when it comes to rooting it, dont.
just go flash the unleash the beast rom and it also tells you how to enable sideloading which will let you download applications from outside the market
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Why wouldn't he want to root?
SuperRooter does everything and the kitchen sink, but works for JH2 and JH3 firmware.
If running stock ROM from the store, Unleash the Beast works great, but doesn't address lag fix (unless it has changed since last week).
does anyone know definitively if i unlock att's locked marketplace, and enable side loading will those be reverted back to stock when i do a factory reset. i'm going ot have to do a warranty exchange within 30 days or my purchase date, but i just want to make sure that i can do these and still revert it back to stock, then reroot it for the return. i already know about being able to reroot it, but i just need to know if my device can be recrippled for the return. thanx in advance
yes you can unroot totally, back to stock with all bloatware and everything.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=731989
go there read up and it is really easy actually. good luck
p.s.... i did method 4. i did not see the phone and computer screen like it shows but it does work if you do it just like he says
I used unleash the beast, and all it unleashed was force closes. I had to reflash to stock. Then I rooted only to remove the att bloatware, with Titanium Backup. As others have noted, I find value in some of the bloat, so I prefer to uninstall myself. I then flash the circle battery mod type D. Then I do the lagfix. I use taytanna (?) Lagfix ext4 version. Then I put on the fonts (there is one central font post that links to the vibrant post with 30+ fonts. I don't enable sideloading, other than the fonts there isn't anything I want that isn't in the market. I use the sideloading application from android central. Then I am good to go.
I guess I prefer to do a lot of that myself. I like to be in control, and customize it the way I want. I climbed over the wall to leave Steve's garden because I want control in the first place.
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[Q] Going to buy Captivate.. Few questions

Ok, so after having a long battle in my head about whether I should buy the iPhone 4 or the Captivate, I decided to go on ahead and buy the captivate.
I recently found out about something called "rooting" and have been reading up about it for the past few days.
I learned that people like to root especially for tethering and installing android rom updates that have not been released yet by their carriers. However, I would probably NOT use tethering because I am planning to get the $15 per month, 200mb per month, data plan.
I have installed custom Roms before on my Sony Xperia X1, so I know the general risks of installing them. However, I am new to android, and I have a few questions about rooting.
What exactly does rooting allow you to do?
I remember reading that you must root your phone in order to sideload apps (install non-market apps, right?). This was the main reason I wanted to root. However, I found this : http[:]//www[.]androidcentral[.]com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine (sorry, can't post links yet)
This program seems to solve that problem.
Next, I want to be able to install themes, like Launcher Pro especially. Is it possible to do this without rooting by sideloading the app or must I root my phone?
Third, I know that another great advantage of rooting your phone is that you can overclock to 1.2 GHZ. Does this feature really give you that much of a power boost? Also, does it, in any way, decrease your device's lifespan? If so, is it worth it?
I don't really mind the at&t bloatware, and their censorship of the market is easily passed by turning on wifi and putting your phone in airplane mode (I think).
Now, let's say that I DO decide to root my phone. If I do, I would use the "1 click to root" program, in order to minimize the risk of bricking.
Once I root my phone, I would probably go ahead and install this : http[:]//forum.xda-developers[.]com/showthread.php?t=751934
However, there are two things I am confused about: How do I make a nandroid backup so that I may restore my phone to stock and then unroot it after installing a custom rom? Also, what the hell is "odin"?
Thanks in advance, guys.
Root is a linux term, or a unix term. On older systems the root user is like the admin in windows. On some modern distributions you can't log in as root but can use the root permissions with use of a root password and a sudo command (super user do). so the term super user and root are interchangeable.
To root your phone grants you root permissions via an app that grants or denies permissions to individual apps, no password required. By adding a terminal interface you can do nearly anything that can be done on a pc with linux. It is needed for many mods and having it and knowing what to do with it can be very satisfying.
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Odin is a computer application to re flash your phone. Most mods can be done on a captivate without it but get it just in case you do something stupid! I did!
The overclock is pretty safe. It doesn't really hinder battery life much because if it goes to full speed it gets the task done faster so its back to being throttled sooner. Its stock voltage and there is likely more to come with over and under voltages. The hummingbird has a bit more potential than that. That said the phone runs great without it.
I believe a nandroid backup can be done in clockwork recovery. And my phone didn't need to side loss launcher pro. I was already rooted but I don't think root is needed either. The search on the marker doesn't always find it. Also try adw. And do the lag fix. To see what your phone can really do in quadrant.
I used the over clock with unleash the beast and the lag fix, then I set a replacement lockscreen wrong and locked up my phone, I decided to reflash it. Now I use SRE and the lag fix. But it doesn't include the wireless teather app that comes with unleash the beast.
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NeoXer0 said:
Ok, so after having a long battle in my head about whether I should buy the iPhone 4 or the Captivate, I decided to go on ahead and buy the captivate.
I recently found out about something called "rooting" and have been reading up about it for the past few days.
I learned that people like to root especially for tethering and installing android rom updates that have not been released yet by their carriers. However, I would probably NOT use tethering because I am planning to get the $15 per month, 200mb per month, data plan.
I have installed custom Roms before on my Sony Xperia X1, so I know the general risks of installing them. However, I am new to android, and I have a few questions about rooting.
What exactly does rooting allow you to do?
I remember reading that you must root your phone in order to sideload apps (install non-market apps, right?). This was the main reason I wanted to root. However, I found this : http[:]//www[.]androidcentral[.]com/sideload-android-apps-all-you-want-sideload-wonder-machine (sorry, can't post links yet)
This program seems to solve that problem.
Next, I want to be able to install themes, like Launcher Pro especially. Is it possible to do this without rooting by sideloading the app or must I root my phone?
Third, I know that another great advantage of rooting your phone is that you can overclock to 1.2 GHZ. Does this feature really give you that much of a power boost? Also, does it, in any way, decrease your device's lifespan? If so, is it worth it?
I don't really mind the at&t bloatware, and their censorship of the market is easily passed by turning on wifi and putting your phone in airplane mode (I think).
Now, let's say that I DO decide to root my phone. If I do, I would use the "1 click to root" program, in order to minimize the risk of bricking.
Once I root my phone, I would probably go ahead and install this : http[:]//forum.xda-developers[.]com/showthread.php?t=751934
However, there are two things I am confused about: How do I make a nandroid backup so that I may restore my phone to stock and then unroot it after installing a custom rom? Also, what the hell is "odin"?
Thanks in advance, guys.
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Root if you need to - if nothing you want to do requires root, then don't bother.
You can install (sideload) apps without root. Again, root access is NOT required to sideload. The wondermachine does it by using the Android SDK (they baked it in); but you can just as easily download the Android SDK, unzip it, go to the tools directory and use the ADB tool to install apps. USB Debugging mode is required for this or the wondermachine (it is a checkbox you click on the phone).
Rooting will let you sideload directly on the phone without connecting to a pc, but you need to do more then root, you need to change a db file.
Other launchers are installed without root, so you don't need root for this.
You do need root for nandroid backup, but since it will backup your present state, a restore will still be a rooted phone.
So if you want to restore to factory fresh - the ODIN one click is the way to go. It has the ROM and Odin all in one package. Other version of Odin allows you flash different ROMs.
Nandroid and RomManager are used to switch ROMs and restore all on the phone - so you can install a new ROM, but then rollback to the old with all your configuration intact - this requires root.
That 200mb plan is going to be tough to stay within on the Captivate. The background syncing with google and mail app activity will chew up alot more than you think.
Your first concern with this phone will be how to control data, not whether or not to root.
I do think controlling the data use will be easier on the Captivate than it would be on the iPhone4.
For simplicity, I think SRE 1.2.1a does the best job of "remodeling" the phone.
Ok, thanks a lot for your answers guys, cleared up a lot of things.
I decided I wanted to root just so that I could make backups and install custom roms.
Also, about the data problem, I plan to have wifi on and 3g off most of the time. I don't really find 3g to be a necessity.
Also, is there a way to roll back to your previous ROM and keep all your apps? Or would you have to reinstall them fresh?
alphadog00 said:
Root if you need to - if nothing you want to do requires root, then don't bother.
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Well, this is much like there is a sexy girl in your room and people tell you to do nothing!!! People here tells you a lot of cool stuffs with being rooted, that changes "what you want to do"
PS: In my case I decided to wait until the 2.2 comes out. From now on, I just read this forum . However, I did root my phone and flash back to stock using Odin, just to see whether it is like original afterward (and it seems to be!). I believe I still have warranty with the phone then (can anyone confirm about that again for me???)
NeoXer0 said:
Ok, thanks a lot for your answers guys, cleared up a lot of things.
I decided I wanted to root just so that I could make backups and install custom roms.
Also, about the data problem, I plan to have wifi on and 3g off most of the time. I don't really find 3g to be a necessity.
Also, is there a way to roll back to your previous ROM and keep all your apps? Or would you have to reinstall them fresh?
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Titanium backup, and maybe samsung kies, I know kies works for contacts, and media and synching to outlook. I thought it works for apps but I may be thinking of htc sync, I never really use either.
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cppc said:
Well, this is much like there is a sexy girl in your room and people tell you to do nothing!!! People here tells you a lot of cool stuffs with being rooted, that changes "what you want to do"
PS: In my case I decided to wait until the 2.2 comes out. From now on, I just read this forum . However, I did root my phone and flash back to stock using Odin, just to see whether it is like original afterward (and it seems to be!). I believe I still have warranty with the phone then (can anyone confirm about that again for me???)
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If you flashed back to stock no one knows you rooted so your warranty is safe.
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NeoXer0 said:
Ok, thanks a lot for your answers guys, cleared up a lot of things.
I decided I wanted to root just so that I could make backups and install custom roms.
Also, about the data problem, I plan to have wifi on and 3g off most of the time. I don't really find 3g to be a necessity.
Also, is there a way to roll back to your previous ROM and keep all your apps? Or would you have to reinstall them fresh?
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Clockwork mod will let you create rom backups along with you app data
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About to root a few questions first

Before i root i have a few questions
When i root will i lose all my contacts?
I see about how to root but nothing about what to do After i root my phone what is their to do next? Install cyanmod? atm the site is down could someone point me to a thread that has the download?
Is cyanmod fryo 2.2 or its something different?
What are the main things to install after i root my phone?
Thanks in advance for the help
You won't lose data just by rooting. What you do after rooting is up to you. Installing Superuser is a good start.
You can install a new ROM or use apps like adfree. Other than changing ROMs, nothing major is gained by rooting.
Kevets said:
You won't lose data just by rooting. What you do after rooting is up to you. Installing Superuser is a good start.
You can install a new ROM or use apps like adfree. Other than changing ROMs, nothing major is gained by rooting.
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Thanks for the reply but can you tell me the difference between Froyo 2.2 and cynogoen? Is cynogen basically froyo 2.2? Is cynogoen the most stable rom reason most users have it?

Please help with process

Hello can someone clarify my issues. So I have default stock captivate and want to do some stuff. I need to root,enable side-load, unlcok and update to leaked froyo 2.2. What order do I do this in? I'm pretty sure root first, but if i root and enable sideload, will it carry over after I flash 2.2 with odin??? thank you everyone in advance.
I'm a noob too but I was HIGHLY satisfied with OCLF, an app you can get on the market. AT&T will hide it from you though so turn on airplane mode and use wifi and you can find it on the market. That won't unlock or give you Froyo but it'll help with everything else and also make you phone crazy, crazy fast. Go for the donate version - it's good karma if you can spare the guy a few bucks.
Also maybe check out the thread I just wrote, we are in the same boat Froyo-wise.
joeshmoe08 said:
Hello can someone clarify my issues. So I have default stock captivate and want to do some stuff. I need to root,enable side-load, unlcok and update to leaked froyo 2.2. What order do I do this in? I'm pretty sure root first, but if i root and enable sideload, will it carry over after I flash 2.2 with odin??? thank you everyone in advance.
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Pretty much anything you flash will overwrite whatever you have done to it anyway.
If you go to leaked froyo it is in Odin One-Click form and can be found in the development threads. You will also have to reenable side-loading, root, etc manually. It's all easy enough. Forum search is your friend!
Cognition, CDE or Deviant can be done using ClockworkMod or Odin. (not so one-click) If using ClockworkMod you'll need root. Odin is a bit more complicated but worth learning and doesn't require you be rooted as it does it's magic with your phone in download mode. These will all be rooted and side-load enable out of the box.
Your SDcard should remain intact if you don't master clear or format your SDcard. Two camps on this, one says YES! then other says "yawn." Your milage may vary.
Unlocking is trickier. Some say it lives through it, some have been "disappointed." (REALLY disappointed.) I'd search diligently if you require it.
I'd caution you to make sure you can do 3 button combos to get into recovery and download before you begin. And find your android_id and write it down. You'll be wanting that down the road.
Good luck!

[Q] Newbie needs some help

Hello all
I have had my nexus one for quite a while now and when i bought it the bootloader had already been unlocked, but it had not been rooted yet. The problem I am having is the lack of space the nexus one has for installing apps as apps2sd is dependent on the developers.
So after some research i have found an app called 'ModInstallLocation' which tells me i can install apps to my sd card but it needs the phone to be rooted. Is this correct?
This is where i need some help. I hear all this talk about rooted phones and custom roms and i understand the idea behind it but have no technical knowledge to do this.
At this time i am happy with the stock version of android i have on my nexus (2.2.2 FRG83G) its just the lack of space i have to install apps that's forcing me down this road. I am sure there are many other advantages to rooting and i hope to discover them in time.
Could someone please give a helping hand and point me in the right direction for an idiots guide. I am a bit scared of bricking my phone tho, never endeavored on anything like this before.
Many thanks
JW
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thanks you for your response, think that explains how to proceed.
couple more questions if you could help.
1. Do i have to install a custom rom after i root?
2. As i have not got much experiance in this field should i wait for the OTA update to gingerbread before i root?
many thanks
JW
1. No, if you're ok with stock ROM - you can stay with it.
2. Not really, depends mostly on what you're looking for. Gingerbread will still land on your phone (and unroot you), as long as you're using stock ROM and recovery.

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