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[q] Using older phone as bluetooth gps receiver

I was reading about someone using a phone such as wm fuze as a bluetooth gps receiver. After doing some search I found some apps for both fuze and captivate. Gps2blue for fuze and bluetooth gps provider for android. The fuze app is supposed to send gps info from the fuze to the captivate which uses its program to receive. However I can't seem to get them to link via bluetooth. Has anyone tried this or got it to work? My gps isn't completely broken but here soon, I am found to need reliable gps.so this would work great.
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wow...i actually have a brand new Fuze sitting around under my bed not being used. This would be pretty sweet. Look forward to see what comes out of this.
I also have an iphone 3g with broken wifi....if the wifi worked, i was just going to keep that in my truck and use Mobile AP and connect the 3g to wifi and use google maps on the 3g. Could you not do the same for the Fuze??

probably, but with only a 200 mb plan, I'm trying to use copilot on my phone and limit data usage. Of course with captivate alone. Gps is hit or miss. Mainly miss
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Ok, so I found a way using gpsgate on a wm phone. Works on both my fuze and my tilt. Must say I really love how accurate my tracks are now using a phone from more than 2 years ago. Kinda sux having to resort to 2 phones for accurate tracks, but I love google maps saying my accuracy is 1~4 meters accurate. Even works flawlessly with copilot.
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how about some setup instructions for someone who has not used windows mobile for more than 5 minutes?? haha i have had the fuze forever, but never used it. tips like installing the app, setting it up, etc etc
or since i have an unlimited data plan, what about just using the fuze as a gps anyway? How would that work?

I used my fuze all the time, but I only used garmin on it. Im going to try and find some information on setting up and I'll edit here. I found a similar post and after googling how to do it, I remem hearing the program used to do out was posted in that. Gpsgate is like a 2week trail, but I think its 15 bucks. So hopefully froyo will fix come and I'll know if I'm buying full version.
How to:
Fuze setup:
on the fuze internet explorer, go to www.franson.com where u can download the cab (same as apk for android, but for wm). Install the file. During the first run you should go through a setup wizard. On the first screen it has some search options, I only clicked wired and built in gps. It should find on com 4, whatever it finds i don't think out matters, as long as it finds it. Next is the share setup. I used option 2 and 3, share with nmea and share over bluetooth, I know bluetooth is needed, not sure about the other. Next hit finish. Of course make sure bluetooth is on and set to discoverable. Also so that phone doesn't shut off while navigating, go to power settings and make sure the phone doesn't turn because I'm petty sure if it does it will stop sending gps information (do by going to power settings) That's it for fuze.
For android:
I think under developer settings, allow mock positions need to be enabled. Download bluetooth gps provider off market. On it go to preferences and search for gps provider. Find it device, select it and then back to main screen and hit start, if it fist gps has locked it should work. Should show how many data locked and what not here.
Apps like gps test won't show locked stats but will put accuracy up. Way its done, not sure of how accurate that value is. Seems pretty well.
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Navigation without data?

Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...

Co-pilot in market.

or you can find a version of motonav (basically igo 8.x) and maps from mobilism.org -- best 3d nav software out there that only requires gps, no data. map sets are ~1-2gb and you can get every single state and pretty much any country in the world now (teleatlas/navteq, mixed or whatever).
sort of tough for newbies to get really into customization, but i was huge into this on my past 2 mio devices, so if you need a hand drop me a line on here, no prob.

Thanks. I just dl'd co-pilot, but it says my trial is over, even though I entered my market order id.
I'll try motonav on my other machine and compare.

nonissan said:
Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
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I use Co-Pilot. It is in the market, and if you want it for here in the good old USA it only costs $4.99..
Not as refined as a Garmin but it works. There is also NDrive. More expensive, more refined, I have never used it though..

nonissan said:
Thanks. I just dl'd co-pilot, but it says my trial is over, even though I entered my market order id.
I'll try motonav on my other machine and compare.
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I went round and round with Co-Pilot about that. I had it on my phone and had de-activated it but it would not activate on my G tablet. They sent me a link to download directly from them. It worked with my registration info after that.

How hard would it be to get Google navigation setup with an external GPS unit? I'll probably be picking up a GTablet soon, and am wondering how hard it would be to setup it as a navigator. Could it be done (if so, how easily) by hooking it up with a GPS unit? (Yea, it already does what I want the tablet to do, but its 3+ years old and slooooow to run haha). That or I could use the GPS on my phone once I get it running (HTC Vogue).

M 5hizzle said:
How hard would it be to get Google navigation setup with an external GPS unit? I'll probably be picking up a GTablet soon, and am wondering how hard it would be to setup it as a navigator. Could it be done (if so, how easily) by hooking it up with a GPS unit? (Yea, it already does what I want the tablet to do, but its 3+ years old and slooooow to run haha). That or I could use the GPS on my phone once I get it running (HTC Vogue).
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It is not hard to make GPS work with an external unit. Using Google Navigation though requires an internet connection since Google does not store the maps on your device. So you can use an external GPS receiver, and tether your phone for data. Or, there are ways to use the GPS in your phone and tether too. I have not tried it but hear it can be done.
BTW, I still have an ancient HTC Vogue that I run Android on too...

Sprdtyf350 said:
It is not hard to make GPS work with an external unit. Using Google Navigation though requires an internet connection since Google does not store the maps on your device. So you can use an external GPS receiver, and tether your phone for data. Or, there are ways to use the GPS in your phone and tether too. I have not tried it but hear it can be done.
BTW, I still have an ancient HTC Vogue that I run Android on too...
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Yeah, my vogue has a slow data connection so I haven't bothered with any data-intense apps obviously like Google Nav. Guess I would need to get a different program on the Tab to hook up with the GPS unit itself. Any suggestions (preferable free ones haha?)
And w00t for another VogueDroider on here haha!

M 5hizzle said:
Yeah, my vogue has a slow data connection so I haven't bothered with any data-intense apps obviously like Google Nav. Guess I would need to get a different program on the Tab to hook up with the GPS unit itself. Any suggestions (preferable free ones haha?)
And w00t for another VogueDroider on here haha!
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I would prefer to use Google nav because it works really well. The Vogue does not have wifi though and I have not found a way to tether it using bluetooth. So I use a program called Co-Pilot. It is only $4.99 in the market for the US version but it can be a pain to get activated on the G tablet. ALK who makes the program sent me a link to a non market version that did install with my registration info. It works ok, but not as well as Google nav. Seems to be missing plenty of addresses that are not new and should be there. They do have a way to let them know what is missing but I don't know how often they update.

CoPilot
nonissan said:
Are there any apps that load full maps onto my gtab so I don't need to have a data connection to use my bt gps for navigation? As it is now, I believe Google navigation requires either wifi or tethering to work...
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Yes. I use CoPilot USA,$4.99 from the Market. You can download any or all US State maps for offline use. I use my DroidX as my BT receiver and it works like a charm. . . . I, too had trouble with activation. Had to send an email & call support Toni get it resolved.

Sprdtyf350 said:
I would prefer to use Google nav because it works really well. The Vogue does not have wifi though and I have not found a way to tether it using bluetooth. So I use a program called Co-Pilot. It is only $4.99 in the market for the US version but it can be a pain to get activated on the G tablet. ALK who makes the program sent me a link to a non market version that did install with my registration info. It works ok, but not as well as Google nav. Seems to be missing plenty of addresses that are not new and should be there. They do have a way to let them know what is missing but I don't know how often they update.
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Do you still have the link by any chance? I've tried 3 times on 2 gtabs, and each time it gives me error 703, my trial is over (even though I never took a trial).

nonissan said:
Do you still have the link by any chance? I've tried 3 times on 2 gtabs, and each time it gives me error 703, my trial is over (even though I never took a trial).
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Sent you a PM

Sprdtyf350, I am having the same problem could you please share the link with me too.

Mod57 said:
Sprdtyf350, I am having the same problem could you please share the link with me too.
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PM sent.
I don't know if it is supposed to be a link for everyone or not or I would just post it.

No Joy with CoPilot
I purchased CoPilot through the Google Market place ($4.99 for USA) but no joy in installing it. Same 703 errors. Finally got through to someone in tech support (emails went unanswered) but their advice (basically wipe program and start again while downloading the maps separately onto my PC and then into the g-tablet) still resulted in errors. Since the holiday is coming up, this will probably not get solved in time for next weeks vacation/test run.
Oh well. For five bucks I wasn't expecting a lot and my MIO unit is still operational. Just hoping for some text to speech voice turns from my g-tablet. I will poke again after the holidays. Seems like a combination of the date not resetting or hard coded in the downloaded apk or authentification not getting out (since it is a wifi only machine; the program is expecting the telephone).
Unless anyone has any other suggestions?

success install after rom uprade
I installed latest ROM upgrade (3.1.1) and was able to get co-pilot installed and working. Combination of wiping user data and alk receiving gapps sales information.
No luck with John or Lisa. Anyone with hints for getting the voice portion working.

Bluegps help please

I'm trying to connect to my magellan maestro gps unit. In settings, the bluetooth says paired but not connected. This is where bluegps comes in, right? In bluegps, I chose the magellan unit and then right below it I pressed it to try to connect. But everytime I try to connect, it disconnects saying "Cannot start: Too many connection problems".
Yes, the maestro unit has pairing and connection on. It recognizes the gtab as vegan 5.1.1.
What settings in the bluegps I need to do?

I was having similar issues with the application, so based on another thread, I tried out Googoo Android's Bluetooth GPS. It's available on the Market, but you'll have to sideload it from another device or find the APK (posted on another thread here). That application worked much better for me.

I use 'Bluetooth GPS Provider'
https://market.android.com/details?id=de.mobilej.btgps&feature=search_result
Has been the most stable for me.
If you can't load from market, here is a copy in my DropBox.
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/9669866/BluetoothGPSprovider.apk

Figured out what's wrong. After reading around the net, figured out that the gps unit I have only allows bluetooth connection to transfer data files. GPS signal won't share.

Thanks Zaphod-Beeblebrox
Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I use 'Bluetooth GPS Provider'
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Has been the most stable for me.
If you can't load from market, here is a copy in my DropBox.
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You're awesome. I've been searching around for a couple of days now trying to get my bluetooth G-Sat gps to pair with my new gtab. After grabbing 'Bluetooth GPS Provider' from your dropbox and installing via adb, I'm now able to use the gps puck, thanks.

Zaphod-Beeblebrox said:
I use 'Bluetooth GPS Provider'
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I've actually had that app cause my tablet to freeze twice now and I had to force a reboot (tap the hell out of the power button). TnT Lite 4.4.0. I'm wondering if it's an isolated issue or no because before the thing froze, it was working rather well.

i got my bt gps unit working in google maps.. but that is no good driving around. and cannot get sygic aura or mobile maps to work.

lgkahn said:
i got my bt gps unit working in google maps.. but that is no good driving around. and cannot get sygic aura or mobile maps to work.
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Here are a lot of threads about Bluetooth GPS and need of data connection when using Google maps.
Therefore you need GPS software with pre-loaded maps, like CoPilot.
It's on the market around $5.00 for USA.
I use it and love it!! LOL

Papa Midnight said:
I've actually had that app cause my tablet to freeze twice now and I had to force a reboot (tap the hell out of the power button). TnT Lite 4.4.0. I'm wondering if it's an isolated issue or no because before the thing froze, it was working rather well.
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I use BlueGPS with TNTL 4.2.5. Works with no hiccups....
Possibly different kernel??

[Q] Remote GPS (not what you think)

Ok so I am starting to work on creating some apps with Android. Without giving away my idea I just want to describe basically what I need just to see if it even exists or I'd have to find a way to make one.
So what I need it a GPS unit that can be remote from my handset (I'll be using my Nook Color for dev in this case). Now normally you'd say, ok just use a bluetooth one, however I need its range to be far beyond what BT would provide. so I need something that would transmit signal over maybe RF to some sort of receiver that then I can hopefully connect to the USB port on the Nook or whatever other device. I need its range to be about a mile or so. Anyone know of something that exists like this?
If I were to build the device myself I would really only need it to transmit data every time the GPS unit crosses over a specific set of coordinates. This is why how it operates dictates how I will program this thing.
Any other suggestions of how to do this or ideas on if something like this even exists?

There are tons of apps to track another android phone, and you can find GPS tracking units to mount on vehicles as "spy" supplies, but I don't know if any of them have Android apps. That's about all I can tell you.

Taosaur said:
There are tons of apps to track another android phone, and you can find GPS tracking units to mount on vehicles as "spy" supplies, but I don't know if any of them have Android apps. That's about all I can tell you.
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Hmm you present 2 interesting ideas.
I could make an app that does what I want it to do by tracking another phone's GPS, and just have my app require 2 phones. Problem is I'm reliant on cell signal there most likely which won't work with a nook (and also won't work "everywhere").
The other maybe there is a way for me to make the Nook or other android device receive from that GPS tracker.
Thanks for that, gave me a couple ideas!

If you have access to an Android phone to serve as the GPS marker, just get something like Family Tracker. The tracking client should work on the NC.

Taosaur said:
If you have access to an Android phone to serve as the GPS marker, just get something like Family Tracker. The tracking client should work on the NC.
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I need it to work independent of cell service/internet service. basically the only connections need to be to a GPS satellite and direct between the transmitter and the receiver at the Android device.

Working on some spy stuff?

I Am Marino said:
Working on some spy stuff?
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Nope, its basically a remote lap timer.

GPS? What's the point?

So I was just thinking it seems really strange that our device would have gps without a network connection. I don't have a problem with being wifi only but if I'm using wifi I'm usually at home or at work or somewhere that i won't really be going anywhere. As in, I feel like the most useful part of the gps is always for navigation but the only use of gps I can think of with only wifi is for location based search results. I so I was just wondering everyone's thoughts, cuz to me it seems sort of unnecessary
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offline maps. GPS works without a connection.
and, way better location based services.
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I have not loaded it yet on the Nexus 7 but I have used Navagon from the play store. It turns the tab into a 7 inch GPS unit.

GPS features (Offline Google Maps, fully downloaded GPS software), being able to "Check In" at different locations, whatever they opt for. As a "Dev" unit of sorts, I find GPS to be critical.

GPS to test GPS based applications, since this is a Nexus device
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The only trouble I have with offline maps is that it still obviously doesn't work with navigation. But one question though with offline maps, can you save a map with a navigation route on it?
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I tether my Nexus 7 to my Sprint phone (rooted CM9). It is nice to not have to tether GPS through Bluetooth. In my car the Nexus 7 gets mounted and serves up the torque app, connects my BT obd2 sensor, and uses its own GPS.

What's the point of a GPS? Easy, it's a sensor so the device knows where you are at. I use my Nexus all over the place and it's always online tethered to my phone. It's way smarter since it knows where it's at.
Better question would be, what's that Barometer doing in my Galaxy Nexus....

currentsupply said:
Better question would be, what's that Barometer doing in my Galaxy Nexus....
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The Galaxy Note has one too.

The Kindle Fire didn't have one... and it was very limiting for what I wanted to use it for. My hotspot didn't provide GPS data.
In a mobile setting when you have a 3G/4G hotspot, having a device with a GPS allows a lot of detail data collection which requires location info (like weather data). The hotspot allows transmission of the data to a server for processing and receipt of critical data (like Doppler radar data) to know where you are and where its at.
One of the reasons why I was waiting for the Nexus 7 as soon as I heard it has both GPS and the other location tools.
No aGPS... but once you are tracking that doesn't matter.

Sygic works great offline everywhere I go.

androidobsessed said:
The only trouble I have with offline maps is that it still obviously doesn't work with navigation. But one question though with offline maps, can you save a map with a navigation route on it?
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Navigation apps like Copilot store all of the maps and poi's on the device. No network connection necessary and it will automatically route you to any destination that your map set covers.
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It's also nice to have the GPS so when you show it to your friends with Iphones and Ipads, you can demonstrate the Navigation function that they still don't have.
"Google, Navigate to Staples in Woodland Hills California so my friend can pick up a Nexus 7"

The point is that the kindle fire doesn't have it. That really is the point i think.

currentsupply said:
Better question would be, what's that Barometer doing in my Galaxy Nexus....
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Xoom had one too, it's something that a bit ahead of it's time. Think 'crowd sourced' weather apps.

This thread is akin to the whole "why does the Galaxy Nexus have a barometer in it" threads that popped up after it came out.
Though, as many have said before, it primarily is for use in offline maps. If you start navigation and leave, it should keep those directions (though it won't recalculate any new ones) in memory and running even without an internet connection.

GPS is COMPLETELY SEPARATE from Navigation. Navigation requires a GPS. Using a GPS does not require Navigation.
So stop saying "GPS" when you mean "Navigation", for the love of god.
So what's a GPS in a wifi-only device useful for?
Using in any one of dozens of apps that can cache map data
Recording paths or traces for recreation, hiking, biking, whatever
Geocaching or any other game/activity needing precise location data
Using one of several OFFLINE Navigation apps (CoPilot Live, Sygic, Navigon, etc)
There are more, I'm bored with this...

All that being said, it's awesome that it has it, but yeah most people can turn off that radio most of the time to save battery.

ivwonka said:
All that being said, it's awesome that it has it, but yeah most people can turn off that radio most of the time to save battery.
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GPS is not running and uses no battery unless actively in use.

What about those that tether? It might not be big in the US because of carrier blocking bit plenty of people tether to mobiles - why pay for an additional contract when your phone has unlimited data?
Once coupled together the 7 becomes its own device, looks great with Google navigation and obviously Google Notes works as it should!