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Is my Nexus One slow?

Hi,
I'm having my Nexus One for about two weeks now and I already started a thread about the choppy scrolling between homescreens but now I want to know if there are other people that find their Nexus One slow and if they were able to make it faster in any way.
When I bought this phone I thought android would 'fly' on it cause I already had a HTC Magic and that went reasonably fast. But everything I'm using on my Nexus One feels choppy and not fluent as I expected/want it to be. For example when you start the browser or any other program you get this zoom animation which is nice but it doesn't go fluent, it goes choppy like you would play a videogame with 5 FPS.
And as I already mentioned the same counts for the launcher, it's just not fluent and doesn't feel fast at all.
I've tested different rom's, froyo, etc. but nothing seems to make it right so now I'm wondering if there are people that have the same issue's? Is it normal that the Nexus One isn't super fast to use or is there something wrong with my phone and should I return it?

i think something is wrong. especially with froyo the phone is ultra-fast.
Try Linpack and some other benchmarks and post the results.
Or try osmonitor for example and see what the cpu speed does, perhaps it is stuck @ 245 mhz for some reason lol

Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?

renegadEEE said:
Ok, my score in Linpack is 6844 (MFLOPS). Don't know if that's good or bad. In BencmarkPi my Nexus One calculates Pi in 2842 miliseconds. And in Neocore I get 26.4 FPS which seems pretty normal to me.
I don't think my problems are hardware related, it more feels like it's the software.
Ow and I ran OSmonitor now and there's something strange. It says Memory Total: 217.440K Free: 67.500K
Is this a known bug or should it say 512MB?
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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on

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your using eclair without a highmem kernel, thats why it only shows that much RAM. What roms have you tried? Try cyanogens or even stock froyo and see how the speed improves. I think you may be feeling its slow because of the extra animations that werent present during 1.6 which is what the MT3G is on
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But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.

renegadEEE said:
But the kernel thing doesn't affect the speed? I believe stock Froyo is one of the best I've tried so far. I tried cyanogen too, 5.0.7 I believe, but the launcher was extremely slow on that one.
Or am I flashing my roms the wrong way so things don't run smooth? I just download the .zip files, put them on my sd card, boot into recovery, whipe and flash. Normally it should work that way I believe.
And on my HTC Magic I was using a rom with Sense UI that worked very smooth. Maybe I should try the Desire ports but I like the stock Nexus One UI better.
Also I can't understand why there are developers OC'en the Nexus One? If it's really that fast already why would you risk that you're phone dies quicker for that extra performance?
And I don't hate animations, I even like them, but not if they are choppy.
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the kernel is actually the primary factor when it comes to speed. how the kernel manages actions on the phone is the deciding factor on what makes it run fast. you can have a very fast phone hardwarewise, but if the kernel is designed poorly, the phone will run slow as well. Using a kernel that does not have highmem enabled means your probably running an older kernel that does not have updates for speed. the latest froyo kernel has highmem and JIT enabled for faster application use as well as over smoother feel.
i love the animations as well
im coming from the G1 and i havent had any of the of the problems you seem to be having. you are flashing the roms correctly (unless there are additional things such as google apps you need, idk whats the procedure on that for the nexus) Im running fully stock with froyo FRF72.
I would imagine that Desire would be SLOWER than stock android not faster. However the animations may be better optimized. I only used sense on the G1 and it was slow as heck on there (i would have used it all the time otherwise) The main reason that things look so choppy is because rendering is not handled by the GPU, rather the CPU. This puts more strain on the CPU than should be necessary.
I don't get why they OC the CPU either. Seriously, 1gHz is fast for a PHONE. I can understand why when the phone starts getting dated why you would....but its not gonna be dated till at least Q4 2010 when the 1.2-2gHz snapdragons are coming out.

Qualcomm will have a 1.5gHz ready for new phones this year. DUAL-CORE
http://gizmodo.com/5443976/qualcomm...dragon-smartphones-are-about-to-go-hyperspeed
As for the problem. Sounds weird. Try LauncherPro for a test. That is smooth launcher that flows like butter. If that is choppy then there is something seriously fu-bar going on with yer phone

I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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so is your nexus smooth and fluid now? because mine is very smooth swiping the homescreens. using launcher pro. no choppiness at all.

Stock launchers to me are kinda choppy too. And that was my only complain with the nexus. Like the previous posters advised, try launcher pro and adwlauncher, tweak the settings to your liking and you'll see the difference. As far as kernel for froyo try pershoots kernel, it seems to be very smooth and speedy.
renegadEEE said:
I've flashed the stock froyo FRF50 now and till now it looks a lot better. OS manager now shows a total of 400MB memory. Is this the normal amount it should show? Or should I be looking for another kernel for froyo? And what is the difference between froyo FRF50 and FRF72?
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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400 is normal. FRF72 seems to help battery life greatly for me. browser seems more stable and google apps have been updated (alarm and calendar)

renegadEEE said:
Ok, thanks for al the replies and great advice! With the fresh Froyo rom and a better kernel everything goes way better now!
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Minor suggestion - install ADW.Launcher (you'll have to tweak the settings a bit to make it nice) or Launcher Pro (works great as is) with your Froyo ROM. You'll thank me for it. The stock launcher scrolling is choppy - always has been, never was really fixed in Froyo (at least as of FRF50 - I haven't even bothered trying it with FRF72).

[Q] Linpack for android..am i lacking?

Ok so i flash theses beautiful roms and now ive tried some testing and currently on my captivate i ran the "linpack for andoid" app and it states:
MFLOPS: 13.982
time: 6.0
Norm Res:5.68
Precision: Inaccurate result
ok so i looked at the top 10 section ounder my phone and their MFLOPS is between 20-50 MFLOPS...So do i need some tweaking?..I mean the phone is good , Rom is awesome...any thoughts?
Captivate 1007
Phoenix 5.2 (2.2.1 JS5)
Speedmod i897 500hz k13c
UGJK4
Lagfix enabled
(r) Tweaks enabled

I wouldn't worry about it. First, your test said inaccurate results, so try running it a few times, though you probably won't get much more out of it. Secondly, most people believe these benchmarks are a load of BS, and I would trends to agree. If the ROM feels snappier and works smoother than stock for you, there really isn't any use in the benchmark scores. I'm running Serendipity 5.11 with the same kernel as you, and I find my scores are in the low 14's- which, as is for you, seems slow compared to the online results. However, my phone supposedly blows the other results out of the water in the Quadrant Standard benchmark, regularly achieving scores over 1500, and I imagine yours would perform similarly, so no, I wouldn't worry at all.
Overall, most of the roms on here achieve faster performance along with better battery life compared to a stock cappy. I suggest trying out as many roms as possible to find the one that fits you best, as everybody has different tastes, and each rom behaves differently for everybody.
Personally, I think Serendipity is something you should try, as it looks friggen sweet as is, and even better IMO with some tweaks. I changed the battery indicator to the android dude, the font to Armani, and use launcher pro over the base rom. Altogether, my phone is super slick and snappy. Oh yeah, it also accesses HSPA networks, so downloads are way quicker than stock (pretty sure your current rom does too).
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that's about right, repeated tests should get you 14+. it does say inacurate so i dont think you have a problem, just a process running somewhere. the hummingbird lacks a bit in this area and snapdragons excel only in this area. i know it is weird that the nexus one and droid incredible smoke this phone in linpack but it is hardly a thorough benchmark. run quadrant on CM7 when it comes out and see what the hardware is really doing without the samsung influence. despite the low mflops you will see good scores across the board.

Thanks alot for the input everyone...jus curious how gen-pop was adding up... but who cares about the numbers i suppose when my phone is soo [email protected]## cool hahha
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Just for the record, I'm on stock Froyo, With no SpeedMod, but with voodoo lagfix and I got better benchmark, linpack and quadrant scores than I did with a custom rom and Speedmod kernel before. Add to that the stability of a native ROM and kernel, and I think you know what I am saying here...

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Just for the record, I'm on stock Froyo, With no SpeedMod, but with voodoo lagfix and I got better benchmark, linpack and quadrant scores than I did with a custom rom and Speedmod kernel before. Add to that the stability of a native ROM and kernel, and I think you know what I am saying here...
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Hmmm. Intresting. Makes sense. Whered ya get the stock from..curious about the release tomorrow for At&t. Think i might try some configs with it.
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[Q] Best Rom/Kernel Combination for 3d gaming?

I have encountered some trouble with the latest darky's en Doc's romkitchen roms/kernels when it comes to 3D gaming. Some high end games run smoother on stock froyo then on rom's that are supposed to be smoother. An example is n64 emulator that just came out (Can highly recommend it, buy this thing!)
An other example is dungeon defenders first wave, which runs awesome on stock but has some hickups on Darky 9.3/9.2. Quadrant however seems to be better on custom roms en Kernels.
blah blah blah, MY QUESTION:
Which Rom/Kernal combination is best for 3d gaming?
Heard some good about Insanity? Anway lets get the discussion started!

Selfbump... Will flash all the major combination on Saturday to test n64oid, and dungeon defenders. Updates will follow.

n64oid? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for telling me about that! I miss n64 so much!! Especially Zelda and Bomberman!
I'm using Darky's 9.3 with DamianGTO's v1.1 Gold OC to 1.2ghz full ext2. I get 55.6 fps on most games which is perfectly smooth IMHO. I was told not to use setCPU with it though as it messes with the governor but I'm thinking it's a good idea to use just to set to performance for perfect game play, no set-on-boot settings.
Did you set up your lagfix to ext2 or ext4? They are both similar but ext2 doesn't have journaling and so it's faster in use but a little more risky if you don't have backups. Ext4 is slightly slower due to the journaling but with faster boot times and it's safer in case of a battery pull. (keep in mind, I'm using EXT2 flat, not like OCLF where it's ext2 on top of rfs)

Exinferios said:
n64oid? AWESOME!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Thank you for telling me about that! I miss n64 so much!! Especially Zelda and Bomberman!
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No problem, Zelda is not running very good yet, but the devs told me they are working on it. So far Mario 64, Mariokart and Starfox are running ok on the stock froyo 2.2.1
I have rfs now because its stock, but I tried voodoo with ext4. I have nandroid backups, backuppro and even titanium installed so Ill try ext2 flat this weekend.
Thanks for the reply!

Starfox was a good game so were the other two. I'll be keeping an eye on this one and wait until it's fully ready before I buy just to make sure they can get my favorite games running well so I don't get disappointed
Yeah, RFS on this phone is horrible on any ROM. It just places so much on security that you can barely get anything done. Quite frankly, it's overkill on that front, so much so that the true power and efficiency of our phones is left unrealized. There is so much debate about ext2 vs ext4 but most people don't notice a difference anyway.
I have nandroid and titanium backup, that's enough for me. One to backup in case I screw something up or need to change CSC(been having issues with HSDPA not auto connecting) and one to restore apps and settings for when I change firmwares.

i started to play legend of zelda ocarina of time on comp because it was so buuuuggy to play on my sgs i9000 :/
edit. but still i recommend speed mod and im still comparing custom roms.

After update Zelda OoT is running pretty smooth! Starfox is running a lot better to!
Im on the newest Insanity with DamianGTO 1.1 gold Kernel and im getting around 2300-2400 quadrant without OC. Ext2 is working pretty good, made sure to backup my ****
I will try some other combinations, but for now I can say this is the best combination Ive tried when it comes to 3d Gaming and maybe even the overall experience..
Respect to the devs, and feel free to share your own experience

does the overclocking of the cpu give a major boost to 3d gaming or will there be smooth gameplay without overcloking???

Tried the 1200 mhz setting and there is definitly a boost in performance. With insanity and the overclock kernel I reached an quadrant of 2690
Im gaming without much trouble now on using the ultimate 8.0 rom with DamianGTO 1.1 gold kernel, without OC.. I got a lousy quadrant of 1100 with this combination, but im running most n64oid games without to much problems. Dungeon defenders first wave and Spectral souls are running silky smooth so apparently the quadrant score is not really representative.
Tried CM7 as wel, have to say im very impressed by the overall smoothness, but its still a bit to beta for my taste. Plus, this thread it about gaming, and some games are still incompatible with CM7. This will be the ultimate rom in 2 months though.. Mark my word.

So have the OP come to this conclusion that ultimate 8.0 rom with DamianGTO 1.1 gold kernel is the best rom and kernel for gaming?

How fast Is your phone?

Is there any actual blazing fast roms where everything your do is instant because I haven't found one yet. Most rom descriptions say they are blazing fast and have absolutely no lag and that there isn't anything better.
However my phone is not at all blazing fast. Most apps don't open instantly and start to get kicked out of memory making it impossible to multitask.
I want to know rom and kernel you people are using and what you think of the performance
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I have an HTC Touch Pro 2. Two main issues:
1) At first, yes, it was maddeningly slow about half the time. It often, and I mean alot, would stop, think a loooong time like 10 to 30 seconds, trying to decide what it wants to do, then all would be OK for awhile, then stop and think. Arrgghh.
I am currently working on speeding up my Droid install, probably always will. Start here: read this thread on speed improvement. Try each one, one at a time, and do some simple benchmarking and you will find that one or two of these will help. My droid is not maddeningly slow as often. It is even quite peppy sometimes.
2) Battery life WAS bad, I was carrying 3 batteries in my pocket with the TP2 and I would run through all of them by 7pm that day :-(
How I fixed my battery life issue.
Battery life went from 4 hours to 1.5 days with this tweak. Installed DAZZLE from the market. It is a widget, after downloading you can create as many of these DAZZLE widgets as you want on your home screen. I created 2 DAZZLE widgets. A 5x1 (that means it has 5 configurable buttons), for the buttons I selected: Mobile Network, Wireless Network, Bluetooth, GPS, and Sync. Next: turn off all 5 buttons. Turn them on only when needed. My battery lasted 1.5 days! I am finding that when at home I can leave Wireless and Synch on and it doesn't drain the battery. With all 5 of these off I can still text and make calls. Also, install a DAZZLE 1x1 widget and customize that button to control screen brightness, I set it usually to 56%. Screen set to MIN at night when reading my RSS feeds in bed (I fall asleep reading the news) OK, one more battery life tweak: I installed SetCPU. The paid version is free for all XDA members. It is pretty self explanatory how this one works. You can find the free download on this forum by searching. I set mine at first from MAX to MIN but I felt the MIN of 122,880 was too low and it was lagging when it would wake up from a dark screen, so I moved the MIN up a notch to 245,760. Now it wakes up faster from a dark screen. All 3 of these tweaks make me a happy camper now for battery life, now to get the darn thing to be lite and quick and responsive. For me that would be no more than 2 seconds from button push to when an app opens.

Try galnetmiui or cm7.
They're both really fast (scrolling on cm7 is really laggy however).
Try supercharger v6 (just google it), it conpletely fixes the ram management.
Youll never have lags caused by to low ram, but you can still multitask.
You can also try a fast launcher like launcher pro.
That will make your whole launcher experience much smoother
Mathijs
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The supercharger script is too confusing
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How will I know if its actually working as it should be?
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I would recommend installing a stock Samsung ROM, that is odexed (JVR or JVS). And then MAYBE apply the supercharger script, but it's really not needed. That is about as fast as this phone can get. Don't worry about benchmark scores, or the so-called "lagfixes". They fix nothing anymore.
This is only based on my own experience.

seeraj15 said:
Is there any actual blazing fast roms where everything your do is instant because I haven't found one yet. Most rom descriptions say they are blazing fast and have absolutely no lag and that there isn't anything better.
However my phone is not at all blazing fast. Most apps don't open instantly and start to get kicked out of memory making it impossible to multitask.
I want to know rom and kernel you people are using and what you think of the performance
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I agree with you. Most custom ROMS boast all sorts of modifications and tweaks and high quadrant scores, but in terms of smoothness in user interface, I see no real difference. I find that stock ROMS are the best. I also find that froyo 2.2.1 roms are better than 2.3.4 because of more free ram. So, less memory swapping occurs and apps can start faster, browsers remain minimized rather than saved-state, etc. on froyo. However, I use JVR now mainly because I find that while it lags a little, the loading of things, like installing apps, loading videos, loading app lists, is faster. But it definitely lags more than my old ZSJPK rom

Where can I find Supercharger? I cant find it on Market?

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Where can I find Supercharger? I cant find it on Market?
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You can find it here. It's included in some ROMs already, e.g. Simplicity.
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seeraj15 said:
Is there any actual blazing fast roms where everything your do is instant because I haven't found one yet. Most rom descriptions say they are blazing fast and have absolutely no lag and that there isn't anything better.
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Try Simplicity ROM. They utilize very good and stable Semaphore kernel. Quadrant score without any over-clocking is 3000 but it doesn't matter. Lag free experience does matter though.

my friends galaxy ace is faster than my i9000 !!

I usually opt to maximise battery life, but have played around with a lot of custom roms. My votes for smoothest roms in my experience thus far would be:
Odexed JVR with GalaxianGT Kernel (1.2GHz) - I was surprised by the smoothness coming from Speedmod. I'm guessing it's primarily gained by OC'ing to 1.2GHz and using an ondemand governor rather than Speedmod's conservative one.
CM7 with Platypus kernel - CM7 is really smooth with the stock kernel as is running with an ondemand governor, but it felt a bit quicker with Platypus kernels tweaks. I'm betting the use of YAFFS2 instead of RFS is the biggest reason it's quicker than stock Samsung roms.
Smoothest launcher I've used is ADW Launcher EX. I've compared it to GO Launcher EX and Zeam and it looks and feels quicker to me. Launcher Pro is also quick, but it hasn't been updated in ages
I use SURFACE JVR with Speedmod as I've found the kernel to be one of the best with regards to battery life and the ROM removes all the bloat and Samsung apps that I don't use.

am on jvs deodexed and my phone is always lagging

I am on SH 5.1 Revenge ROM and GalaxianEE JVS, both working nice... before this I was in SH modded kernel T5s, also stable and fast, I choose GalaxianEE as the charging speed is faster compare with another...

Gl note core kernel vs speedmod ??? Pro's and con's??

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Go to Android Development Section and you will find your answer hopefully..

even I would like to know. seems both are very good.

if noone answers do a comparison and include battery life, performance etc.
Speedmod is original
hl note core is adapted speedmod so use same versions of speedmod when doing so
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I've used both, and prefer glnotecore (have beenn off speedmod about 3 wks). On my note, it is smoother, more stable, and faster. I also get great batt life for this level of performance. Of course, we're finding that there are some fairly significant variances note-to-note, so you really need to test both on your phone to know what works best for you, but I can attest to notecore's overall performance. Fwiw, I'm using same dev's latest rom (cleannote) along with latest kernel (6.1, which is not speedmod-based). If you're using a rom with lots of scripts and tweaks, then notecore isn't for you as it is optimized without such items (read thread to learn more about why). It may also not be for you if you're looking for lots of mods... dev is focused on performance and stability without trendy bells and whistles. Hope this is helpful to you.

Think of them like this:
SpeedMod = original Samsung Kernel but "safe"
NOTECORE = customized Samsung Kernel and "safe"
If you're going to use the Stock TouchWizz ROM with minimal changes, go for SpeedMod, it should be more stable.
If you want to customize your NOTE with a TouchWizz-based ROM, go for Notecore, you can underclock the min frequency (save battery), then overclock max freq (faster), then undervolt it slightly (save even more battery). Then use a more effecient governor like InteractiveX or Ondemand (save battery without losing performance). Then you can overclock the gpu, and get smooth performance with the ChainFire3D plugin.
Then again, if you really want ultimate customization... you'll need AOSP ROM + Kernel.
Examples:
A) SpeedMod K3-9 + (Samsung) LRG ROM = Samsung Experience
B) NOTECORE + m3dd0g's LiquidSmooth v3.0 = Custom Experience
C) ANiKernel + AOKP build 41 (milestone 6) = Deep Custom Experience

I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.

kam333 said:
I'd say it depends on how you use your device,
If your not addicted to flashing & you want a stable smooth phone with minimum issues, use SpeedMod
However, if you like to tinker & don't mind a few bugs go with notecore.
At the moment notecore is hit & miss, a new version (sometimes 2) everyday tells you its not there YET.
I started with v1 through to v5, whilst at its best notecore is the fastest kernel for our note, for me there was always the occasional freeze that didn't happen with SpeedMod or funky, or even with earlier versions of the same kernel.
PS. This is not a criticism of the dev, I donated to him for his work on the kernel & a few years ago for his superb windows mobile (cleanex) roms
I feel the need to mention this to avoid any potential flame wars igniting as some folks get a little 'Apple' when you speak objectively.
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:

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Agree with that.
NoteCore is all speed. SpeedMod is stable, smooth and reliable.
I had corrupt sd-card on NoteCore, don't remember which version but I never tried it again. Things have gotten better and I might give V7 a try.
As for people getting apples - welcome to Internet there are E-Rambo-Hulks everywhere.:silly:
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Haha, E-Rambo-Hulks, not heard that 1 before.
Also had issues with the sd card unmounting & apps uninstalled on reboot.
Just tried v7 so far the freezing has gone, especially with dead trigger.
will give it a few hours/days.
Edit: freezing still happening, back to speedmod.

ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.

notecore kernel are AWESONE.....

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ive never had an issue with either kernel but for me notecore out performs speedmod hands down.
There are 2 versions of notecore, Standard and extreme, Extreme does not work for everyone (strange but true) But it works for me
No issues, No FC's, No lags, No battery drain.
I play dead trigger A LOT and i have the tegra 3 graphics enabled and it is buttery smooth. Awesome game if i must say so.
But the only way to know which one is right for you is to try them both and heavily test them
What works for one person doesnt mean it will work for another.
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Completely agree with you. Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE if you are comparing the OCed version with the regular speedmod.
Of course, it all depends on what the person needs it for and nothing beats testing for yourself since it takes little time to flash back and forth.
Regards

kam333 said:
Chances are notecore will get there, but for me right now, SpeedMod whilst lacking the outright speed of NC, its just as smooth but more reliable.
As always ymmv.
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shaolin95 said:
Anyone that feels speedmod is just as smooth but more stable must not use their phones for gaming or other CPU intensive apps because the difference is HUGE
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i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).

In my personal experience I find both of them good in their own ways. Note core is a full performance kernel while speedmod Is a balanced kernel. I keep coming back to Note core because of it's brilliant performance, thanks to Gavin .
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kam333 said:
i said it was just as smooth & more reliable, i gave my opinion based on my experience,
please accept my apologies if english isnt your 1st language so you dont understand what you're typing, but for you to assume how another person uses their phone based on your experience, makes no sense.
notecore is fast, no question, but for me, with fifa12, dead trigger, nova3, gt racing... all play just as smooth with both kernels, where i notice the speed difference is on things like launcher transitions or opening solid explorer NC is a fraction quicker, not Huge, we're talking milliseconds quicker.
again, genuine apologies if your comment has been misinterpreted but the point still stands... your experience will be different to others (vice-versa).
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Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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shaolin95 said:
Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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Theoretically you are right.
In practice, you may not be.
SpeedMod = stability oriented.
NOTECORE= speed oriented.
AOSP kernel = speed and feature oriented.
Nova 3 could run fullspeed on Stock Samsung, SpeedMod, Notecore and AOSP. Or Nova 3 running fullspeed only on AOSP. Or only on Notecore and AOSP.
Obviously, it depends on how good the device (they're not created equal) and rom is, as well as the user (different apps installed, different forms of usage).
The only way to decide is to test them personally and see what works for you.

I'm using and testing also both, and all versions...... If you compare it with cars, or car builder, then Hardcore is more the "settled" one, like Mercedes, that is a kernel, that is solid, stable and do what it should do..... Speedmod is good, if you want to have a kernel with good performance, but you don't want to Overclock or something...... And I think, here speedmod is very good....... For Users, they don't want to screw on setups, just having a kernel, that is installed and good!
Gavin is more like a tuning builder, like amg that takes the Mercedes and try to get out more performance on every little part of the engine....... But also get stable enough to win the 24hours race in LeMans
My favourite is Notecore, cause I'm also a screwing fan...... To get as much performance as can out of my note, and here is Notecore definitely on Pole Position....... Since V4 performance is so good, that I get the first time really satisfied......... All runs very fast, apps open like rockets..... Game performance is awesome (gaming Dead Trigger with full effects and tegra effects also triggered on, runs smooth as butter), and also on heavy apps like Photoshop touch, there is enough power to render effects on high resolution pics from Cameras like the CV-5 with 4096x2048 px in png nearly uncompressed......
But Notecore is a performance Kernel, if you are a bit sensible, and you get a heart attack, if your phone gets a little bit warm.... Than better use a kernel that is a bit more conservative.....
Greetz
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shaolin95 said:
Look mate... I understood what you said perfectly so no idea what your language comment was about.... And I would like to see a video of Nova 3 on both kernels on your phone because I test every rom and kernel pretty much and I know that the performance is not the same... I hope English is your first language so you can understand that 'talk is cheap' ....
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@ Kangal
Nice summary,
@shaolin95
Really not fussed enough to flash both kernels make a video just to prove a point (I'm yawning at the thought), I have no reason to lie about the smoothness, simply want what most people want, great performance with stability, still it's just a phone, I don't fret about getting 5 more fps.
If you're getting that with NC then I'm happy for you. I'm not, but I'll say again, it's only a matter of time before the dev gets it spot on. Until then speedmod works great for me.
All the best.

From classic rom. Has tried note std v7 for 3 days. Very smooth and battery drain performance was superb as well. But having same issue with other user. UI sometimes will hang for few second without any respond. But still able to pull down notification bar.
Tried speedmod k3-9 yesterday till now, stable, battery performance not bad at all, smooth and no single hang.
Battery performance is very subjective things, u must try it and compare by your self.
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