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hi guys im running firebird rom and my battery life sucks really bad. i take it out of charge at 10am and it dies around 4.30pm so does kernel makes battery life bad?
my kernel says : 2.6.32.9 [email protected] #28
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Depends. Some kernels are overclocked and will use more battery. Some are poorly put together and will use more battery. Some may not work well with one ROM, but great with another. Not knowing what you do with your phone it is hard to point a finger at the kernel. Poor reception, lots of wifi on time, lots of screen on time, GPS use, push e-mail...lots of things take battery. You need to see what it is you're using and whether that and not the kernel is your issue.
Short answer is yes, kernel affects the battery. All you can do is try a few different ones and see which is best for your usage.
im on messenger services and about 40-50 text and 3 mins of calls and my 3g on and brightness all the way down. no gps no bluetooth or wifi. i use the phone pretty much straight from 10am with maybe 2 mins here and there screen off
sofia-captivate said:
im on messenger services and about 40-50 text and 3 mins of calls and my 3g on and brightness all the way down. no gps no bluetooth or wifi. i use the phone pretty much straight from 10am with maybe 2 mins here and there screen off
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Well, what more do you want? With that kind of usage I doubt you can do much better with any ROM.
that kinda sux but if the screen is really on that much it is normal, i dont think any rom has been tested to surpass 6 hours screen on time.
one good rom was andromda with which i had a hard time running my battery down in a single day, usually went 2 without a problem and i do a lot of texting. also an old version of perception built off a bell vibrant i9000m rom was outstanding.
kernels affect battery life but clock speed on the cpu has less to do with it than many people think, the assumption is faster cpu speeds means more power drawn but the cpu is governed, the governor setting have a lot to do with it. think about it, is it better for the cpu to take 4 seconds on an operation @ 600mhz or do the same operation in 2 seconds @1.2ghz? depends on alot of things reallly but thew difference is alot smaller than people expect. there is also kernelhz which i dont know much about but reportedly if set down to 100 to match another frequency(cant remember off the top of my head) will increase battery life.
the kernel controls many aspects of the system but i haven't seen a kernel that has had a huge increase in battery life given the same rom since the 2.1 days. and even then the battery life wasnt as good as a couple of the 2.2 roms. it seems to me that the rom has more to do with battery life. some vibrant ports have severe battery drain issues on the captivate. some i9000 ports have amazing batery life but most are about the same as stock to slightly better.
if battery life is a problem first you want to see if any processes keep the phone from sleeping. figure out what apps show in the running process list and try killing them, if they don't die/they start back up then freeze them in titanium backup and see if anything makes a difference. careful freezing system processes, some are not detrimental, most are.
other tips are to try apps that manage 3g like juice defender. and use wifi when you can 3g is a bigger battery hog than wifi. also there may be a way to set the phone to default to edge instead of 3g but i think it varies with the build of the rom, you will have to research that one.
other things to look at is weather you sync to google, facebook, twitter ect. those feeds widgets can eat battery as well as the sync process. weather widgets like beautiful widgets seem to have an effect on some of the vibrant ports i used but not as noticable on other roms.
Yikes...that is some awful battery life. I'm surprised because speedmod (and it's variants) is pretty well accepted as being the best kernel for battery life. There are many threads around here for improving battery life. I have personally found that my biggest battery user was constantly checking how much battery I had used.
If you are barely turning your screen off that is good battery life. You will never make it much past 5hrs screen time. Where people get like 40hrs on a charge is when the phone its not actually used, and their set up has good standby performance
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When I used assonance I would get three days of battery life.
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As some have said screen time is the single biggest battery user. My phone will last for about 3 hours of screen on time. So I could have my phone die in 3 hours, or 2 days, it all depends on how often I'm turning that screen on.
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When I used assonance I would get three days of battery life.
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Screenshot of total up time and screen-on time?
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Screenshot of total up time and screen-on time?
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Here's a screenshot of my normal battery usage when I had a captivate, using Precision 3.5.
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wifi uses less power than 3g, my phone only drops 5% over an 8 hour sleep with wifi on the whole time.
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Here's a screenshot of my normal battery usage when I had a captivate, using Precision 3.5.
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Nice ryude.Mine's not as good,but close.So it just proved to me that when ppl say they got 3 days out of a single charge,they're actually not using their phone all.I'm not trying to flame anyone,just my honest opinion.I bought my phone so I can use it,not leave it on a desk.Here's mine.
Forgot:Running Phoenix Ultimate..
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Nice ryude.Mine's not as good,but close.So it just proved to me that when ppl say they got 3 days out of a single charge,they're actually not using their phone all.I'm not trying to flame anyone,just my honest opinion.I bought my phone so I can use it,not leave it on a desk.Here's mine.
Forgot:Running Phoenix Ultimate..
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Yeah, I would say if you're not getting at least 3 hours screen time then you aren't using your phone that much.
Trusselo said:
wifi uses less power than 3g, my phone only drops 5% over an 8 hour sleep with wifi on the whole time.
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Not if you're in a bad reception area.
This is what I average on Andromeda. Some wifi, some GPS tracking, lots of music streaming via BT.
Of course, nearly everything comes into play. Modem, ROM, use, etc.
Here's my battery life from yesterday..
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Here's my battery life from yesterday..
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What ROM are you using?
Miami_Son said:
What ROM are you using?
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Phoenix Ultimate,jk4 and speedmod.Basically whatever adam threw together.
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Ive got GN for 4 days use, a screen is hot and battery life is only less than 1 day normal use.
Is your Note have a same? Pls share, worry if need to replace a new Note
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Ive got GN for 4 days use, a screen is hot and battery life is only less than 1 day normal use.
Is your Note have a same? Pls share, worry if need to replace a new Note
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I'm not getting nearly the battery life that others are claiming.
I just calibrated my battery this time, so we'll see how it goes.
Please post a screen shot of your 'settings -> about phone -> battery usage' and click on display and tell us the 'time on' numbers.
I have about 2 hours of 'time on' time, and I've gone through a third of my battery. And I have very conservative screen settings. I don't see any way I could get the reported 9 hours of video time that Engadget reported.
I'm not complaining though - on my mytouch 4g, I could get probably 3-4 hours of screen time on a battery. Considering how powerful this phone is, and the size/resolution of the screen...... No real complaints.
- Frank
P.S. Can you imagine a hyperion extended battery? The stock mytouch 4g battery is 1400, and the hyperion extended is 3500. So a hyperion extended battery for the note would be ..... 6250 mah??!?!? [email protected] What we need is an ibm 'slice' type of battery - that wouldn't add much thickness.
ChodTheWacko said:
I'm not getting nearly the battery life that others are claiming.
I just calibrated my battery this time, so we'll see how it goes.
Please post a screen shot of your 'settings -> about phone -> battery usage' and click on display and tell us the 'time on' numbers.
I have about 2 hours of 'time on' time, and I've gone through a third of my battery. And I have very conservative screen settings. I don't see any way I could get the reported 9 hours of video time that Engadget reported.
I'm not complaining though - on my mytouch 4g, I could get probably 3-4 hours of screen time on a battery. Considering how powerful this phone is, and the size/resolution of the screen...... No real complaints.
- Frank
P.S. Can you imagine a hyperion extended battery? The stock mytouch 4g battery is 1400, and the hyperion extended is 3500. So a hyperion extended battery for the note would be ..... 6250 mah??!?!? [email protected] What we need is an ibm 'slice' type of battery - that wouldn't add much thickness.
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That is too bad, I am looking forward to the phone but was really looking forward to a good day of heavy use in...
Well, I'm getting a good days use from mine with battery still left at the end of the day. And it's pretty heavy use at the moment too.
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Battery Life is one of my top priorities, which is why this phone seems to be amazing. I would like to hear from more users about this..
I can't wait until ICS & devs start making ROMs & kernel for the Note. I think then, we will see the Note truly shine.
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Battery Life is one of my top priorities, which is why this phone seems to be amazing. I would like to hear from more users about this..
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What kind of battery life test would satisfy you then?
For instance:
I have used a variety of phones over the last 6 months (BB Torch 9800, Torch 9810, BB Bold 9700, Bold 9900, Galaxy 7" Tab P1000, HTC WP7 Mozart) and none of these devices can deal with my pattern of usage every day without at LEAST 2 full depletions and recharges of the battery.
I'm looking to the Note to be the first phone that can last a day, or at LEAST a day with only one recharge.
Engadget reckoned they got 9 hours of video playback on one charge. I do hope that this is indicative of the notes performance...
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What kind of battery life test would satisfy you then?
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I am a heavy user. The only battery test I want is if the batter has juice left in it when you are ready to go to bed. I have a 4G Infuse, the POS would die in 6 hours. So lame.
After one day:
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Your post doesn't tell how the battery life is good. The part that consume the most of the juice is the display and I can see from your post that the screen of your Note was awake just for a little time...
So, trying a browsing and video experience would give us a better idea
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I can tell you right now just by looking at the screenshot you have something keeping your phone awake. No way in the world is Android OS supposed to be that high. Figure out what it is and you'll definitely see better battery life. 90% positive it's an app you installed.
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That's a known ROM/kernel bug in Gingerbread, with AOS taking up so much time. It will be fixed in custom ROMs - though who knows if Samsung will fix theirs ??
Battery tip, if you have NO SIM card in, "cell standby" will tear through your battery in no time. Put it in airplane mode, then enable wifi FTW.
I'm having the same problem. Really frustrating. Needing a recharge every 12 hours or so. And I'm not a heavy user :-/
Dear all,
Today I change a animate wallpaper to static, the result is good, my battery level after same hour, same use is much better.
Before, I full charge at nigh, start use the phone from 7am, web, email at cafe to 8am, have some phone call, email, and web again from 9pm to 11pm.
With animated wallpaper, at 11pm battery is 0, but today, its still at 50%, its good!
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Dear all,
Today I change a animate wallpaper to static, the result is good, my battery level after same hour, same use is much better.
Before, I full charge at nigh, start use the phone from 7am, web, email at cafe to 8am, have some phone call, email, and web again from 9pm to 11pm.
With animated wallpaper, at 11pm battery is 0, but today, its still at 50%, its good!
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Animated wallpapers are battery death unless they are pseudo animations like that melting droid wallpaper which is effectively a giant battery meter. It's like playing a movie constantly.
When judging battery life, you should take in account that if you just have bought the device, you maybe are using it more than you will in the future. (I said maybe, don't jump at me )
I did... And I got 12 hrs or something.... I think that I will manage a good day with it in the future.
Of course the largest consumer of juice will be the screen... So, use a low brightness whenever you can.
And, I bought Juice Defender + from the Market, this seems a good investment and works fine on the Note. (Free version does too)
http://www.juicedefender.com/
I can live with a data connection that just every 15 minutes goes on to check mail etc.
(although some people complain when they don't hear from me within a minute )
Gede said:
When judging battery life, you should take in account that if you just have bought the device, you maybe are using it more than you will in the future. (I said maybe, don't jump at me )
I did... And I got 12 hrs or something.... I think that I will manage a good day with it in the future.
Of course the largest consumer of juice will be the screen... So, use a low brightness whenever you can.
And, I bought Juice Defender + from the Market, this seems a good investment and works fine on the Note. (Free version does too)
http://www.juicedefender.com/
I can live with a data connection that just every 15 minutes goes on to check mail etc.
(although some people complain when they don't hear from me within a minute )
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No push email!?
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No push email!?
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Still push email. But just pushing it every 15 minutes only..... (because of Juice Defender)
I don't mind. Life is fast enough as it is, they can miss me for 15 minutes
You may want to see this:
http://www.slashgear.com/samsung-galaxy-note-review-04193076/
Use find on the web page tool to skip to appropriate section: "Phone and Battery"
The battery on my Note is decent, giving me 2-3 days of moderate use or roughly a full day with heavy use.
Problem is when the battery decreases to around 40% & lower, the battery drains like anything even when not used.
Simply idling the phone would lose roughly 5-6% over an hour.
When the battery is around 20% it will easily run down to 10% and less over a period of a few hours when doing NOTHING.
Yet when then battery is at 80 & 90% it will lose around 5-6% battery over many hours.
Here is the proof, I took a screenshot of the battery information & you will clearly see rapid drops in battery life when at 50% and less.
On the last 20% it goes down even faster, and this is with NO use at all.
I hope this is fixed in ICS as it's a serious problem.
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Pretty flat at the end there, even while being used.
I have seen that reported elsewhere, but not seen it on my own Note. I have just settled it into a new pattern after rooting and deleting the stats, so I am not certain right now, but I think it remains fairly even over the whole cycle.
I am not sure I could use is as little as you appear to have however!
I've yet to get my Note battery to last until 2 days, and not even a full 24 hours (almost heavy usage on data network).
So I guess that's good enough that yours lasted for almost 3 days!
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I've yet to get my Note battery to last until 2 days, and not even a full 24 hours (almost heavy usage on data network).
So I guess that's good enough that yours lasted for almost 3 days!
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Haha, don't get me wrong, I think the battery is great.
I'm only wondering why it goes so quickly when it's at 40% and under...
This seems odd. I'd say I'm having the same issue (the poor battery performance).
I've been trying to analyse this but don't have much time to do it right. From what I'm seeing the battery usage graph looks legit. Phone seems to enter deep sleep states. Nonetheless Note seems to drain the battery a lot faster in deep sleep than my Galaxy 3 does, which is odd considering Note having 3 times larger battery capacity.
What seems odd too is extremely slow suspend/resume cycles (e.g. the time it takes for the phone to turn the screen off/show lock screen). It takes more than a second on my Note to show the lock screen. I've seen other report this too. A friend of mine shocked a salesman on a Samsung booth lately when he showed him that. Galaxy S2 is thunderfast, while Galaxy Note takes ages to resume. My Galaxy 3 takes <0.5s. I've looked into the `dmesg` output for some hints. I'm no guru in this, but `ehci` seems to be taking some time to suspend/resume. This also converges with my other observation - Galaxy Note notoriously locks up when playing with usb host. I've tried couple of keyboard/mouse on usb - some of them do work, some of them don't (I can see 'Mouse/Keyboard' connected on the statusbar but there's no mouse pointer nor keyboard input is possible; after some time it's most likely to hard lock the system).
Thus I would suspect buggy usb host/otg hardware/driver that's leading to such a poor battery performance. But hey, maybe it's just me and my theories. Nevertheless something must be broken.
My battery is terrible.
With soe usage, mostly data, I'll drop from 100% to 60% in 3 to 4 hours.
Im on rocket rom.
Only 1 heavy gmail syncing and 3 other gmails with barely an email per week and facebook syncing.
And microsoft exchange calendar syncing (no email syncing).
No twitter.
No other apps.
But im on H+ most of the time.
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I know HSPA (H+) eats battery because I turned off my data for 2 days and battery latest me 1.5 days.
CorruptedSanity said:
My battery is terrible.
With soe usage, mostly data, I'll drop from 100% to 60% in 3 to 4 hours.
Im on rocket rom.
Only 1 heavy gmail syncing and 3 other gmails with barely an email per week and facebook syncing.
And microsoft exchange calendar syncing (no email syncing).
No twitter.
No other apps.
But im on H+ most of the time.
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I know HSPA (H+) eats battery because I turned off my data for 2 days and battery latest me 1.5 days.
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I found gmail syncing kills the battery very very fast. try to disable auto sync and see if that helps
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I found gmail syncing kills the battery very very fast. try to disable auto sync and see if that helps
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Why in the world would I do that?
Its 2012. I need/want my data pushed.
Turning off auto sync would be like me going back to 2004.
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Why in the world would I do that?
Its 2012. I need/want my data pushed.
Turning off auto sync would be like me going back to 2004.
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I just made a suggestion, that's all. I'm trying to help you save battery. If you want all the bells and whistles and want battery then going for the extended battery is your route. I don't think you will get much more from the standard.
I have had troubles with battery life since I bought this beauty. I have been trying several Roms and Kernels, and none seem to make much difference. I also tried selecting among governors but still no better luck.
When I have 20-24hrs battery life it is very good!
The only thing that allowed me to save some was to reduce lcd intensity, and use the Note in dark environments.
Maybe I am using it more than the average user, but with all the opportunities it provides, I can hardly refrain myself from using it.
My typical use is:
- Radio and surf when going to work and home,
- Email and surf every hour at work
- About 10-20mn phone calls
- Listening to music when I can be alone working (1-2 hrs each day)
- Tablet use when at home.
Do you consider this to be a very heavy usage of the phone ?
I have just had my Note for a few days. The biggest battery eater in my case is WiFi. If I switch it off, the discharge is quite acceptable (a couple of percent during the night). I am not deep into Android internals, but it seems my 5-year-old Palm TX had much better WiFi power management than my brand new Note!
BTW, I am on a stock ROM and have disabled auto-sync.
Have you tried wiping battery stats? Let the phone completely die then charge it without interruption until it's been on 100% for an hour then boot to CWM and wipe battery stats
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I just made a suggestion, that's all. I'm trying to help you save battery. If you want all the bells and whistles and want battery then going for the extended battery is your route. I don't think you will get much more from the standard.
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I thank you.
I wasn't lashing out at you. I know you were trying to help.
It was directed to the R&D at Samsung.
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Maybe I am using it more than the average user, but with all the opportunities it provides, I can hardly refrain myself from using it.
My typical use is:
- Radio and surf when going to work and home,
- Email and surf every hour at work
- About 10-20mn phone calls
- Listening to music when I can be alone working (1-2 hrs each day)
- Tablet use when at home.
Do you consider this to be a very heavy usage of the phone ?
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I do not consider the battery able to cope with the features.
I'm on H+. why wont I have everything auto syncing?
Battery should support the phone features.
Rght now I'm always connected to a power source via USB or car charger or home charger.
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Why in the world would I do that?
Its 2012. I need/want my data pushed.
Turning off auto sync would be like me going back to 2004.
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well... then stop complaining about your battery drainage...
The other guy were simply gave you a advice as to why your battery were used up so fast....
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well... then stop complaining about your battery drainage...
The other guy were simply gave you a advice as to why your battery were used up so fast....
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I can complain. I paid $750 for it.
The bells and whistles are there but the battery can't cope. Major flaw in battery implementation.
I already told the other guy i appreciate his help but that defeats the purpose of such an advanced and sophisticated mobile phone.
I had a SE symbian for 3 years then several HTC WM 6 mobiles, then a year of HTC Desire then an iPhone 4 for 1.5 years. I'll head towards the best regardless of brand.
Quit being a fanboy.
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well... then stop complaining about your battery drainage...
The other guy were simply gave you a advice as to why your battery were used up so fast....
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I am not complaining about the battery drainage per-se.
My previous phone was a Nokia N900, which I used all day long for calls, mails, radio listening, ssh to my home computer, etc... and I knew well that I could not use it for more than a day without charging, sometimes even less.
The phone battery was never advertized as being able to cope with such usage, and only announced battery times for 2G/3G calls.
When I first read announcements about the N7000, I read that Samsung decided to increase the battery power to make it last 2 days, which looked nice to me.
Now I have hardly 13 hours of battery time with my usage (see my previous post) and I want to know:
- is it a normal behaviour for the phone?
- is there a way to make things better with the same hardware?
- do I really need to lower my expectations?
If the answer to the last question is yes, I will be of course disappointed but I can cope with it, as I did with my previous phones. As CorruptedSanity already mentioned, my only complains are to the Samsung techs (or advertizers) and not to any member of this forum who are usually able to help beyond my needs.
I hope that screen optimizations will come that will increase the battery life while I use the phone, but my expectations are low.
You can expect around 5 hrs of screen time based on peoples reports here
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You can expect around 5 hrs of screen time based on peoples reports here
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Yup, that's the killer IMO. I can leave WiFi enabled all day, or use the phone for a couple of hours of calls and a few hours of 'screen time'. Not both!
Before rooting and killing bloatware, I could do neither.
Hi all
My phone was in for repairs recently. I got it back on the 8th (April 2012) and so I flashed the Vulnerable Recovery sbf and restored my CM7 backup I made the day it went in for repairs. Now, it's been a month, and I'm not sure what it used to be like, but my battery can't even last a day.
Currently I'm sitting on 92% and and took it off charge exactly an hour ago...and since I'm typing on my phone right now, by the time I'm done, it will probably be 90%.
Yesterday, with minimal use, my phone, after 12 hours unplugged, was on 17%.
Should I be concerned? I'm using CM7.1.5.
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actually dude... i also noticed that as well.. cm7 really drains the battery quick...
I need to know what you all are experiencing. It's just a few minutes shy of 12 hours since I unplugged. And apart from two 1 minute calls and updating 4 apps on the market, I barely used the phone (only checked this thread about 4 times on the XDA app). It's now at 14%. It's a bit worrying, because I'm still on my way home, and it's almost like I can't manage a day at work without needing to charge. And I don't carry a charger or USB cable around most of the time.
Please give me your inputs. I know this is a fairly common problem to hear about, but I'm sure my CM7 experience could be better. Ps, I have calibrated the battery. Mostly keep EDGE on instead of 3G if I'm not really using it. Also, never have the GPS on, nor WiFi, nor Bluetooth.
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The milestone never got a good battery life. Since my gf had it new, she cant make a day. (she's not a "phone" girl, she use it for txt/call, thats it).
Around 25%, you have about 3 hours on sleep. if I use it, it will drop to 0 very fast.
The phose is a year and half old, 2 battery rotation and froyomod 2.9.3 rom.
And for the same time of use, my desire z can last 2 and a half easy.
I have a mugen 1700 battery (same size as the original one but 20% more power) and I can use my phone for 24 hours without charging (even if I usually charge it during night even if not completely discharged) .
I use 3g with toggle2g enabled, Facebook, whatsapp and other common apps and Widgets, I have autosync fully enabled, and I play games do less than one hour per day.
Maybe you should try a different battery
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I have a mugen 1700 battery (same size as the original one but 20% more power) and I can use my phone for 24 hours without charging (even if I usually charge it during night even if not completely discharged) .
I use 3g with toggle2g enabled, Facebook, whatsapp and other common apps ahind Widgets, I have autosync fully enabled, and I play games do less than one hour per day.
Maybe you should try a different battery
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Hi i also have a battery problem. Can you say from when i can buy it if i from queens,new-york?
And my friends from israel maybe want it,can have shipping? What its price today?
Thanks.
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Hi i also have a battery problem. Can you say from when i can buy it if i from queens,new-york?
And my friends from israel maybe want it,can have shipping? What its price today?
Thanks.
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http://www.mugen-power-batteries.co...-extended-battery-for-motorola-driod-pro.html
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it's a good battery, but for the today MS quotation, it's like half of its value..
I've bought a DEJI 2000mAh for a bunch of euros, but honestly 2000mAh is just the nominal power, it lasts like the stock one..
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um, what?
My phone is now one year old with stock battery. It's has a decent battery life, with toggle2g enabled, full autosync with Facebook, Path, Twitter, Whatsapp, Google+, Dropbox, Gmail, I get about 12 hours with moderate usage.
Brightness is fixed at max.
But it is unstable. Some days my battery will last for 12 hours, some days it's at 15% in 5 hours.
I dunno if it is CM7, but sometimes the phone has dificulties in syncing and it does get really hot.
To me, the stock battery is too hot, and keeps discharging faster the more hot gets. My mugen never gets that hot, and never fluctuates that much in duration
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scoutme said:
To me, the stock battery is too hot, and keeps discharging faster the more hot gets. My mugen never gets that hot, and never fluctuates that much in duration
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Oh yeah, I notice that too. when you use the phone, maybe 5 minutes later, the phone is hot.
One other thing, the milestone can charge 20% to 100% in an hour. its really fast, and its not very good for a lithium battery since it comes very hot.
what are your average charging time?
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I would assume this isn't your daily phone anymore? You have no usage by texting or calls. Sure, you got 5 days standby time, but that's literally on an unused phone.
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oVeRdOsE. said:
Oh yeah, I notice that too. when you use the phone, maybe 5 minutes later, the phone is hot.
One other thing, the milestone can charge 20% to 100% in an hour. its really fast, and its not very good for a lithium battery since it comes very hot.
what are your average charging time?
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actually, you should leave it a bit more in charging state, to avoid internal counter fail. That said, yes, the battery is rather fast in charging. I really suggest you the mugen battery, that's fast in charging but slow in discharging
Hmm, going through all of this, my usage doesn't seem too different to you guys. Maybe I should just get used to it. I actually did buy a spare battery off eBay - but it's just another BP6X battery. I think I will try this mugen battery.
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Hello d.casper.b. I upgraded to CM7.1.5 (from stock Eclair) in Jan 2012. Since then I have a bit better batt life. Standard battery. I unplugged my phone yesterday (Sunday 15th Apr 2012) at about 12:30 - 1:00 pm. It's now Monday 3:10pm and I'm at 50%. My wifi is on all the time, except I turn it off when I go to bed so it don't wake me up with email or whatsapp messages. I don't have sync on and my phone is not on a data service. I have only used it for some light browsing since unplugged. No music or streaming data. No screensavers. Auto-brightness. I will use the bluetooth when driving home from work. That said - I typically get 24 hours+ on a full charge - except if I do some youtube or other streaming stuff.
That said - I don't think the ROM is the issue. You should try a battery calibration. Also - when it gets to 100% charge, leave it for at least 15-30 mins more plugged in.
Please stop suggesting battery calibrations. I really don't think anyone has a clue what they're talking about when they suggest it.
What you all call "battery calibrations" doesn't do anything other than make Android forget how the battery has been used -- that means the USAGE STATS. It can take a few charge/drain cycles before the battery meter reads true after that. It doesn't do a damn thing to your battery life.
destruct2k sorry - but no need to get hot under the collar about it. But in a sense - you have a point about the batt cal. It's been suggested on other threads - but I've never tried it - and so I shouldn't be recommending it to anyone. I only repeated what others had suggested some time back. Peace.
Anil - You're right, I overreacted there, but not too long ago I saw a 3-page article posted on Google+ by a woman that works on Android for a living about how "stupid" (her word, not mine) the concept was that deleting a file in software could somehow affect the battery's ability to hold a charge. Ever since that read, my opinion on "calibration" has changed significantly. If I could only find that article...
I have the same issue. And it's kinda strange because it's only comin up with CM 7.2
The worst battery life was 30 minutes. I charged it to 100% and I went for a walk before I went to my dance class to teach and after 30 minutes it's drained from 100 to 13% and I did nothing just listening to music. Weird. And when I charge my battery it's like going to 20% like in 5 mins and then 2 mins later it's on 60% and then 40 minutes later it's charged...I'm tryna find a solution for it cos it's soooo frustrating and I don't wanna change my phone til Milestone 4 is coming out!
Yeah yeah I know its got Stamina Mode BUT! is anyone a little worried like me that the battery is 2330 and with a 5 inch screen and all those pixels its going to drain pretty fast. Todays phones with 720 screens and less pixels aren't the best. I'm still getting the phone but anyone else think we aren't in for glorious battery life here. (Stamina Mode may be the perfect fix for this though)
im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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im hoping we get some battery reviews in soon. i have yet to see any real in depth reviews for the battery yet.
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Yeah, thats the part of the reviews I will be taken proper interest in.
Coming from the One X, I'm not too worried about battery life as I'd be fairly confident it could last a bit longer than that phone. I charge my phone every night so once I get a day out of it thats fine.
I would like to see a review on the battery life though.
2330 AMH is really good though
I have 3100mah on my Galaxy Note 2 right now. Pretty huge battery - was supposed to last 3 days - it barely lasts 48 hours of "normal use". Not worried about Xperia Z, if 3100mah can't supply more than 5-6 screen time or 48+ hours - no battery will. If it lasts 2 full days, i'll be more than happy.
From what I've heard it's actually surprisingly good. Keep your brightness in check and you'll be fine. Both the Snapdragon S4 Pro and the MDM9215 are pretty efficient chips. The S4 Pro has (according to Qualcomm at least) a pretty high performance per watt so should do pretty well with relatively little power use.
From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
Early tests not so encouraging. Worse than the nexus 4. Of course screen brightness etc aren't known at this point.
Let's hope it gets better with more charge cycles etc.
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Doesn't look too good. 9 hours with 3h screen time... but the screen drained 42% of the battery so i guess it must have been under some heavy stress. Hope to see some more tests/reviews asap.
yeah, all we can do is wait for the NDA to break. I really hate waiting.
hope the battery's up to scratch because i haven't been this excited for a phone in a long time.
When do nda normally break? Seeing as it should release in some territories in a few weeks, I'm surprised there haven't been more reviews. Hoping to see some from the big sites any day now, especially the verge, gsmarena etc, as I'm really interested in battery life. Would need about 3.5 hours screen on time on mid brightness on 4g over say 15 hours off charger to work for me. Guess I could make do with 3 hours, but whichever of the new 5 inch phones does this will get my money. Come on Sony, don't disappoint me, cause I love the look of this phone!
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A) reviews take time
B) It seems as though the CES units were not final... so the final product may not have been available until very recently.
Sony stores/reps are starting to get their demo units (which should be final hardware) so hopefully more reviews soon.
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
mattman83 said:
BTW NDA is usually to keep the details of the product hidden until Sony is ready to release. The phone has obviously been officially announced so this is not an NDA thing, just the fact that they don't want reviews done on inferior pre-release units.
M.
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And by looking at some threads here - it's perfectly understandable. People freaking out about things that are not even present in the real device like older software, lower benchmarks due to debugging firmware etc. But i'm really dying to see the battery life... if it's non-removable and it won't last 48+ hours of normal use, than it's not good. If it won't last 24+ hours of normal use than i guess i might reconsider ( and by normal use i mean texting, calling, maybe some music - not playing with it every second, that's reserved for few first days )
That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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From the 1st review:
"The Z’s battery-saving Stamina mode turns off data when the screen is off, boosting standby time by a factor of four, and we found it hardly lost any charge overnight – around 1 per cent, or none at all."
Now that's interesting.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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Juice defender kills apps but issue with this is apps relaunch itself and then juice defender kicks in and kills it again and ends up in an infinite loop of killing and reviving of processes. The difference with stamina mode is that it was officially made by manufacturer within the ROM. So when you set it to get killed when screen is off there's something within the framework of the android core which they programmed to really halt the operation of the app/process and not just killing it. So in the end it is totally stopped
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That screen shot over page with 9hr 33mins battery life. I didn't see the sign for power saver/battery saving mode being used. I mean surely the phone has to last a day atleast under moderate usage. I mean it has a bigger battery than the S3 and that lasted over a day on moderate usage and the cpu in the Z is supposed to be more power efficient is it not.
I also think battery life is a subjective matter for example me and my GF both had the note 2 and I set her phone up exactly how I set mine up with the brightness etc and she was getting 4days - 5days 20hours battery life and mine was getting 1day 20hours - 2days 23hours, why? because I use my phone a damn site more than she does and the variation is because some days I use more phone more than other days so some days the battery will last more and some days it will last less.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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The thing with the S4 pro is that it can go both ways as far as efficient hardware is concerned. I think it has something to do with thermal insulation.
The nexus 4 and it's 2100ish mAh has notoriously poor battery times - in my testing, tapping out at just under 3 hours screen usage in around 8-10 hours of total use (everything stock + 4.2.1).
My padfone 2, on the other hand, with the same battery/screen size is a battery champ - regularly get 5 to 5.5 hours screen usage over a period of 18-20 hours. It beats out all my previous phones for battery life (minus the note 2), including the GS3 which had good battery life itself.
And no, i don't belive in disabling google now and push notifications. Without them the nexus 4 does better but the padfone 2 and its s4 pro do brilliant with them on.
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Well that's not reinventing the wheel, most battery saving apps like Juice Defender do that. However I need a stable IMAP connection and not fire up the screen constantly to check emails.
There is nothing special in making the phone last longer with software trickery, it's like making yourself last longer through thinking about your grandma.
A good battery and battery efficient hardware is needed.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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No argument here - although if it actually does work - then it's a welcome trick. Juice Defender - imo - is useless. It never saved any battery for me - quite the contrary, constant app killing in the background resulted in worse battery life on my Galaxy S/Note devices, so i'm curious how will Sony implement such a feature.
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Why would you guys use JD for killing apps? That doesn't make sense. Its main use is to manage radios etc. depending on battery & screen status. Anyway didn't do much for me so switched from that to Tasker.