I need to get a nexus one handled thru warranty, but HTC says basically if anything is wrong they'll charge for a new phone. I've never dropped it in water but I just want to make sure just in case like if some steam got in or something, I really don't want to pay $500 for a refurbished phone or something like that.
Has anyone gotten a N1 replaced thru HTC?
also, where is the water indicator thing on the phone? Can it be seen if you take the cover off?
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http://www.dropbox.com/gallery/6436943/1/liquiddamage?h=5096a4
I am not sure if there are any others.
The picture is of the back of my phone, at the very bottom with the rear lower cover off. Picture courtesy of HTC
On mine, there is also a water indicator under the battery terminal leads. Remove the battery, and look just below the connectors. You'll see a white sticker. or red if it's gotten wet.
Also note, that these stickers do not change color in humidity, they must touch standing water, you would need nearly 100% humidity + 100% condensation for it to change. Which under normal weather conditions (even a shower's steam) it would be impossible for it to change... And if you did get it to change from humidity, it's beyond the tolerance of the device and has voided the warranty.
Just as you can't put it in a 600 degree oven for an hour and say "i don't know what happened, it just melted in my hand" and expect a warranty replacement, or repair.
they have set standards for what the device can handle, certain number of G forces, high and low temperature, and humidity. any one of these items can void your warranty. Only a few can they really tell if it happened (water is most common).
If you think you're prone to doing these kinds of things, damaging electronic devices. You can buy insurance from some 3rd party companies, who'll replace the device, in the event it's stops working, damaged, or even stolen. Granted you're going to end up paying into the insurance for more than the phone's worth. But you'll get a brand new phone, if your friend steals it. (But they have ways of finding out if it's turned on, and they can track these things, insurance fraud is a crime, and they aren't stupid about it.) ;-)
In addition to the two sports mentioned above, my battery (stock) also has a water indicator strip on the side of it.
thanks guys, huge help.
@ mellow cat, I don't want to open the device up for fear of really voiding my warranty, I guess there's no way to see that without taking it apart eh?
@ next two dudes, thx, my strip is still white, so that pretty much means the inside is going to be white as well and I should be safe for a warranty claim right?
The water strips show two points where the water could enter. Near the battery is for the headphone jack. And the bottom is the USB port. If you did drop it in a 1/4 cup of beer (like a friend of mine with his iphone) but only went half way it'll show on the bottom.
If you're worried about steam then the battery one should be enough to ease your concern.
But any other damage like bumps and bruises on the phone is enough for them to deny your warranty claim. (Also assuming you bought new not a refurbished. Refurbs will be denied because they don't have stock serial numbers. I've worked at netgear doing support claims like that... so I know how those kinds of things work.)
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well ****.
Here's what I'm dealing with:
The phone is my girlfriend's. I bought it brand new from Google for her. About 2 months later she left on the top of her car and drove off, it fell near the freeway. Brick.
Sent it to Asurion and paid the deductible, obviously they sent a refurb.
Fast forward 2 weeks ago, the power button would work 1 out of 3 times pressing it, suddenly it stopped working altogether, so that would be a manufacture error. The phone has normal nicks on it, but no big dents or anything that it looks like it was dropped (to me). The battery indicator is white, although she says she had it in the bathroom while showering, not in the shower, but in the bathroom.
Called HTC, they said they'd replace it on warranty for free provided it didn't show user ****-ups. They are making me put $500 on a credit card in case they have to charge my ass.
So I am really worried they are going to "find" something wrong with it and charge me. She really loves this phone and can't have another one because she has to have that lighted track ball. I just want the ****ing power button fixed, that is it, nothing else. Never rooted, never anything.
This thing is pissing me off, why so much drama just to fix something it would take their tech guy like 10 minutes? It's still within a year of original purchase.
Any thoughts or advice?
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Sent it to Asurion and paid the deductible, obviously they sent a refurb.
Called HTC, they said they'd replace it on warranty for free provided it didn't show user ****-ups. They are making me put $500 on a credit card in case they have to charge my ass.
So I am really worried they are going to "find" something wrong with it and charge me.
This thing is pissing me off, why so much drama just to fix something it would take their tech guy like 10 minutes? It's still within a year of original purchase.
Any thoughts or advice?
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My first question is, what about the insurance co? Have you asked them about a replacement since they sent you the first replacement?
I've dealt with a similar situation with a laptop. I ended up suing gateway for my laptop back.
So HTC will find that it's a refurb. They will charge you for the repair. This should be a reasonable cost for repair ($60-160 no more than that).
HTC should only be asking for $500 hold if they are sending you a replacement, and that they don't want to be shortchanged in the event you don't send yours back.
They may still charge you for repairs, they may not.
But the $500 should be released either way.
If they do not do it this way, go file a civil lawsuit for the $500 damages. They won't fight it, and it'll cost you about $35.
If they do fight, then you've got your ducks in a row (you'll win), you should have your replacement anyway. Just go with it.
This is from personal experience, and I hope it goes smoothly.
They said they would replace it for free even though I told them it was a refurb via Asurion because the original purchase date is less than a year, but if they find that I ****ed it up in any way (e.g. water damage) they'd charge the $500, So I can pay $80 to fix it like you say or attempt to get the free replacement (they already know it's a refurb) chancing they charge me $500.
$160 still seems like too much money to fix something that is a common failure on their end while it's still under warranty.
I can get a replacement refurb thru Asurion for $130 so paying $160 seems ludicrous (I know you said they may charge only $60 but what are the odds)
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I can get a replacement refurb thru Asurion for $130 so paying $160 seems ludicrous (I know you said they may charge only $60 but what are the odds)
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So, Are you a gambling man?
Your options:
1) pay 130$, get another refurb.
2) take a chance, that that phone has never seen water. And are you willing to put $500 on the poker table for that?
Also, if you enjoy legal battles and can spare the $500 for a few months, if they do charge you the $500, then you can sue the insurance co for sending you a bad refurb, in damages of $500... since you know it's never seen water since you've had it. (it's not your fault its water stickers were set off, you shouldn't have to pay the $500. I'm not one for sue-ing everyone, but in this case, it's going to hurt you in $500 if you didn't) But thats a last ditch effort.
flibbertigibbet007 said:
So, Are you a gambling man?
Your options:
1) pay 130$, get another refurb.
2) take a chance, that that phone has never seen water. And are you willing to put $500 on the poker table for that?
Also, if you enjoy legal battles and can spare the $500 for a few months, if they do charge you the $500, then you can sue the insurance co for sending you a bad refurb, in damages of $500... since you know it's never seen water since you've had it. (it's not your fault its water stickers were set off, you shouldn't have to pay the $500. I'm not one for sue-ing everyone, but in this case, it's going to hurt you in $500 if you didn't) But thats a last ditch effort.
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well I do play hold 'em a lot with friends over bbq and beers but that's a different story.
so maybe I'll just chance the $500 and send it in for warranty then if HTC pulls a fast one I'd do a civil suit on Asurion for $500 for sending me a jacked up phone?
maybe, I mean this whole thing sucks and $130 is insane for the damn power button.
ugh
Hey you've got more guts than I do. But you're probably on a good bet. Although I don't gamble much.
Please let me know how it ends up. I'd love to hear a good ending.
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This thread made me really laugh. I was afraid of the $529 on credit collateral for the repair, but after going through it EIGHT TIMES (yes EIGHT) I can assure you they don't check the phone that thoroughly. As long as you didn't swim with the phone, everything's covered. Make sure your screen is not HEAVILY SCRATCHED or CRACKED, this can cause them to get ancy. The biggest problem is them sending you a lemon, and I've gotten 7 of them so far, ranging from dust under screen to power button to LCD Flicker and coloration/dead pixels. I swear its like a grab bag...
Dnlsmy I'm talking of past experience with other warranty claims and from my experience working at netgear. I don't know how lenient HTC is about their warranty. But from what you say you sound pleased other than the refurbished units you got back...
All I can say is good luck.
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UPDATE:
ok so I ended up just sending the device to HTC, go the new unit last tuesday. Girlfriend couldn't be more pleased, noticed the difference in the button right away.
HTC didn't charge me for a new phone, so guess they didn't find anything wrong with it, glad she never let me root it, lol.
Looks like this will turn out a happy ending, thx to everyone for chiming in, I'm sure I'll be back to these forums for a Nexus related question at some point
now if you'll excuse me there's a new CM7 ROM on my HD2 that needs flashing
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As this is my first post I would just first like to say thank you to everyone who has contributed to this forum, without it this new smart phone user/AT&T subscriber wouldn't have been able to figure anything out.
Long story short: I just bought a new Tilt like three weeks ago and the LCD is already cracked. AT&T doesn't offer insurance on this phone and I am not entirely sure about HTC's manufacturers warranty. I checked across the forums and found some good information regarding replacing broken Tilt LCD screens, it all just seems fairly old. What I am wondering is what is the cheapest, easiest way to fix the LCD on the Tilt? Right now the cheapest I can find the LCD/Touchscreen combo with the right tools is $69.99 plus $12.99 S+H. Is this the best bet? Any other options I haven't thought of yet?
Also, I can't seem to find detailed picture instructions regarding the LCD swap anywhere on the forum? So where are the best directions for this online?
Now, time for a little rant. How the hell does AT&T not offer insurance for a phone that retails for over $300 brand new? Let's get serious here, it's an expensive piece of gadgetry that I happen to pay a lot of money for to use every month. The least they could offer their highest paying customers is a chance for insurance. By not offering insurance to their customers AT&T is basically saying "Piss off, oh, and make sure you pay your bill on time!" with a permanent smile on their face as they walk to the bank with our money. I'm sick of phone companies saying "I'm sorry, theres nothing I can do for you" to the customers that finance their paychecks, vacations, and replacement trophy wives boob jobs. I understand it's a service based industry and everyone wants their service, giving them the ultimate upper hand in the situation. But let's start thinking a little bit more with our heads and a little less with our wallets. It's time for these places to realize how ridiculous they are sometimes.
Apologize for the missive their, but man did it feel good.
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As this is my first post I would just first like to say thank you to everyone who has contributed to this forum, without it this new smart phone user/AT&T subscriber wouldn't have been able to figure anything out.
Long story short: I just bought a new Tilt like three weeks ago and the LCD is already cracked. AT&T doesn't offer insurance on this phone and I am not entirely sure about HTC's manufacturers warranty. I checked across the forums and found some good information regarding replacing broken Tilt LCD screens, it all just seems fairly old. What I am wondering is what is the cheapest, easiest way to fix the LCD on the Tilt? Right now the cheapest I can find the LCD/Touchscreen combo with the right tools is $69.99 plus $12.99 S+H. Is this the best bet? Any other options I haven't thought of yet?
Also, I can't seem to find detailed picture instructions regarding the LCD swap anywhere on the forum? So where are the best directions for this online?
Now, time for a little rant. How the hell does AT&T not offer insurance for a phone that retails for over $300 brand new? Let's get serious here, it's an expensive piece of gadgetry that I happen to pay a lot of money for to use every month. The least they could offer their highest paying customers is a chance for insurance. By not offering insurance to their customers AT&T is basically saying "Piss off, oh, and make sure you pay your bill on time!" with a permanent smile on their face as they walk to the bank with our money. I'm sick of phone companies saying "I'm sorry, theres nothing I can do for you" to the customers that finance their paychecks, vacations, and replacement trophy wives boob jobs. I understand it's a service based industry and everyone wants their service, giving them the ultimate upper hand in the situation. But let's start thinking a little bit more with our heads and a little less with our wallets. It's time for these places to realize how ridiculous they are sometimes.
Apologize for the missive their, but man did it feel good.
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Mike Channon has links to Disassembly guides. Try a search for "Kaiser Disassembly Guide." My expert opinion, remember advise it worth waht you pay for it , is that the $70 is a good deal.
EDIT: I'm in a good mood. Searched for you today. Kaiser Disassembly Guides.
And s response to your rant. See this is why Mobile Phone Companies have the WORSE customer service rating of ANY business.
yea I cracked my screen as well about a month after having it.. I ended up buying a screen replacement for 115 off of ebay...
But now be careful... When i broke my screen, I thought that was the only damage the phone took... well the impact was right above where the sim tray is... and it damaged it as well.. my phone wasn't able to read sim cards anymore after replacing the screen... So I did a bold move, and told AT&T warranty support that my phone all of a sudden didnt read my card anymore.. i sent it back to them, and they sent me a replacement...
they could have charged me $400 for sending them a broken "out-of-warranty" item but i lucked out
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..How the hell does AT&T not offer insurance for a phone that retails for over $300 brand new? Let's get serious here, it's an expensive piece of gadgetry that I happen to pay a lot of money for to use every month...
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That is exactly why they don't provide insurance for it. I asked a friend who works for them and he said that was the main reason. However if you live in dc metropolitan area there is a company called "Simply wireless" that offers insurance for any kind of mobile device and its 60 or 70 bucks upfront one time and insurance is good until something happens to device. Didn't get it myself but could be worth looking into.
p.s. i was also going to refer you to micheal but i Jimmy's already done it
Thanks to both of you already. Jimmy thanks for posting those directions, they look a little more intense than I thought but I don't think I'll have a problem replacing it myself. the $70 is way cheaper than the $170 from pocketpctechs.com
How would I make sure everything else is working fine on my phone? It's still syncing fine with my laptop and sends/receives calls, so I imagine its still fine. Is there a SIM access point through WMDC? Just to check that?
Also, anyone know any other ways to possibly get around this warranty here? The screen broke this morning, and I'm still not entirely sure how it happened. I had left my wall charger back home and only had my usb plug to charge my phone from. I woke up to the screen cracked and my phone being really really hot. The phone was at the foot of my bed, so I am not ruling anything out like me accidentally pushing in the screen, but has there ever been issues with the Kaiser's over heating and popping their LCD screen?
Thanks
Thanks to both of you already. Jimmy thanks for posting those directions, they look a little more intense than I thought but I don't think I'll have a problem replacing it myself. the $70 is way cheaper than the $170 from pocketpctechs.com
How would I make sure everything else is working fine on my phone? It's still syncing fine with my laptop and sends/receives calls, so I imagine its still fine. Is there a SIM access point through WMDC? Just to check that?
Also, anyone know any other ways to possibly get around this warranty here? The screen broke this morning, and I'm still not entirely sure how it happened. I had left my wall charger back home and only had my usb plug to charge my phone from. I woke up to the screen cracked and my phone being really really hot. The phone was at the foot of my bed, so I am not ruling anything out like me accidentally pushing in the screen, but has there ever been issues with the Kaiser's over heating and popping their LCD screen?
I used to work for Simply Wireless, and Mobile Solutions.. both a crooks.. dont buy from them, and definietly dont buy their insurance...
even though they are trying to clean their act up, their are 100% sales driven and dont give a f*ck bout their customer... trust me like i said, i worked for them...
if ur in the DC metro area, check out Wireless Jungle, they are located in Burke, Manassas, Herndon, and other parts of NoVA, they are excellent imo
l3urton32 said:
Thanks to both of you already. Jimmy thanks for posting those directions, they look a little more intense than I thought but I don't think I'll have a problem replacing it myself. the $70 is way cheaper than the $170 from pocketpctechs.com
How would I make sure everything else is working fine on my phone? It's still syncing fine with my laptop and sends/receives calls, so I imagine its still fine. Is there a SIM access point through WMDC? Just to check that?
Also, anyone know any other ways to possibly get around this warranty here? The screen broke this morning, and I'm still not entirely sure how it happened. I had left my wall charger back home and only had my usb plug to charge my phone from. I woke up to the screen cracked and my phone being really really hot. The phone was at the foot of my bed, so I am not ruling anything out like me accidentally pushing in the screen, but has there ever been issues with the Kaiser's over heating and popping their LCD screen?
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honestly i doubt heat caused it... looking at my phone, i have enough room to stick my fingernail under the casing sourrounding the screen, so there is alittle room to move in case heat does expand the internals. My phone has gotten pretty damn hot before, to the point where i couldnt hold it (forgot it in the car with wifi bt and gps on... in 105F temp) and it was still fine....
I dont condone this... but when i broke my screen, i was extreemly careful in replacing it, and made sure not to add any additional scratches... once i was done, the phone looked like it did on day 1... so when i sent it back to AT&T there was no way they could tell it had been cracked open...
if ur phone still rings, and u can answer the calls, u should be ok...
I actually had the insurance prior to switching over to the tilt in October. In December my screen cracked and I called them and they said that since I was a long standing customer, they would replace it. they sent me a refurbished phone in 2 days.
I broke the scren again in February and this time I did not call immediately. about a month later I went past the store and told him the situation and he said to call again. I did and they sent me another one. they canceled my policy because I had two claims in one year. but they told me that I could pick it up again in a year.
Moral: always ask...you never know!
Awesome, more good info from everyone. I'm from the Rochester, NY area. Any idea if theres some sort of place that will insure any branded phones in my area? Google is failing me here. Also, do these places have to check your phone before they insure it? If theres some way I can get around that and put insurance on my phone I would just wait like a week and send it in...
yea if they "forget" to remove the insurance plan... or if u ask a stupid rep to add it, and they do... ur golden, and they will replace ur phone... I'm still grandfathered in with my insruance
btw kendall sent u a pm
so maybe AT&T is getting a little smarter. I called and got 4 different customer service reps and all of them told me it was ineligible...no luck with the bull**** approach. HTC USA said no go on everything too... I am getting a little fed up here. I have had this phone for only 3 weeks and everywhere I go everybody pretty much just dismisses me. My favorite dialog of the day came with one AT&T rep who was pissed off at more than just me trying to get an answer from her. And this is after she already told me the Tilt was ineligible for insurance
Me: So basically what your trying to say is that if I break my phone I'm pretty much screwed
AT&T Lady: umm... well. You can apply to get insurance on your phone and than you would be covered.
Me: you just told me I can't put insurance on my phone at all and you can't fix it for me
AT&T Lady: Wait. You can't put insurance on this? Hang on. (here she put me on hold to, what I assume at least, check her facts again) Alright Mr. Davis we can't insure your phone. Can I offer you a replacement Tilt at full retail price?
Let's get it it together AT&T, support the customers that pay your bills. We don't get the corporate discounts you get so it's a little ridiculous having to deal with all this crap.
Suggestion here...add an LCD Replacement walk-through to the Kaiser specific Wiki...or perhaps a whole section concerning DIY repairs and mods...Just something concise so it's a little easier to find. Thanks again to everyone though.
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the cheapest i found was $65 for the lcd and $8 Shipping from. WWW.HTCLCD.COM comes with the tools to replace it.
Good instructions also on their website.
belize2004 said:
the cheapest i found was $65 for the lcd and $8 Shipping from. WWW.HTCLCD.COM comes with the tools to replace it.
Good instructions also on their website.
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Thanks a lot! I'm ordering now and will see how it all works out.
I found a new place that will replace the screen with quick turnaround for $125
www.northbayelectronics.com
I am sending mine today!
well my screen cracked... anyone think of a reason this replacement screen won't work? I bought it just now, $14, no big deal if it isn't what I need... but can anyone see how this might not be what I need?
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOUCH-SCREEN-FO...NameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em124
that auction appears to just be for the touch screen overlay, not the LCD screen.
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well my screen cracked... anyone think of a reason this replacement screen won't work? I bought it just now, $14, no big deal if it isn't what I need... but can anyone see how this might not be what I need?
http://cgi.ebay.com/TOUCH-SCREEN-FO...NameZWD4VQQcmdZViewItemQQ_trksidZp1638Q2em124
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I'm trying it. Please see:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=337102&page=10
and the page after. Should be interesting.
i ordered from htclcd.com (redirects to blackberry8100parts.com) on tuesday afternoon; i just received it from DHL. came in two separate boxes, one was the screen and tool, the other was another tool (different sizes). price was 68.80 including shipping from omaha, ne to knoxville, tn. regrettably i left the tilt at home so i can't do the replacement in the office today; i'll update when i've done the replacement (successfull or otherwise...) this evening or tomorrow morning. i'll try to remember to take some pics.
take off the four outer screws, and GENTLY GENTLY GENTLY pry the outer plastic bezel/frame off. you have to remove a philips head screw inside and to the left of the ear-peice speaker (as you look at the board from the back of the ear-peice (i.e. the inside of the bezel); i did not put this screw back on when re-assembling, i did pry the ear-piece connectors up a little to make sure they had enough stroke to make contact. you will need to remove GENTLY the adhesive that holds the sim-carrier to the back of the screen. once the parts are apart you can see the plug to remove the screen from the back of the button pad. reverse to reassemble. you do not have remove any peices from the main body or remove the screen from the main body IF you are only replacing the touch screen. i'll have my pics uploaded some time tomorrow. FYI, htclcd.com did not include the "plastic tool" that you are to use to pry the bezel off with but judicious use of a micro-driver and a guitar pick got the job done; for 20$US less than the competition and 2 day delivery, i am very happy with my purchase from them (htclcd.com = blackberry8100parts.com).
cheers all!
I called AT&T tech support awhile back because of a couple problems I was having.
1st thing I noticed was the backlight settings not holding. I would set it o not turn off. It would stay that way for awhile, then revert back to shutting off at 10 seconds.
2nd problem was the case around the battery heating up when charging.
3rd problem was that the unit seemed to overheat if I used it (mail, internet, basic functions) for more than a few minutes. The display would then shut completely off, I'd have to pull the battery to shut it down, let it cool off then reboot.
Tech support turned me over to warranty repairs, who sent out a new phone.
I put the old one in the buble envelope they provided, stuck their label on and mailed it back.
I received my old phone in the post today with a big dent on the screen, and an arrow sticker pointing to the dent. When powered on, the screen shows a splat where the dent is and cracks widening out from it with no actual display visible.
The screen was in perfect condition when I mailed it out.
Now they want me to pay $500 for the new phone that they mailed me because "physical damage isn't covered".
BUT the phone wasn't damaged before I mailed it in. Obviously, I'm angry. I need to call AT&T and discuss this with them. I'm wondering if this has happened to anyone else, and if so, how did you deal with it? Or if anyone has any advice for how to deal with AT&T on this matter?
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Kari
this seems odd..att states in their terms once you send out your device it becomes their property and they will not send it back under any circumstances..just keep calling them and calling..it might take you 5 hours of total talk time but you CAN get what you want trust me..i had a broken usb port (from the first version of the tilt that was released which was porly manufactured) which MANY people on xda had similar issues but nothing on att's or htc's side had been documented and they kept telling me "no its not covered blah bla" and finaly after about 4 hours of total talk time (mostly holding and reexplaining the situation 1 million times) i got an elevated elevated elevated personnel who put a note to waive all charges when the device was inspected so dont give up..just demand to be speak to elevated personnel and dont let your guard down make it clear that you sent it in for so and so reasons and why would you send it an obviously physically damaged device...DONT GIVE UP UNTIL YOU GET WHAT YOU WANT
Well thats a bumer, it all depends on who you talk to, when you call AT&T or the insurance company. I assume you have asurion . But my advice is to call asurion and not at&t because they have nothing to do with at&t , and demand to speak to a supervisor , and forget about the operator and request a transfer. Incase the you still have the envelope to take pictures of it and submit it to the returns claim after speaking with a supervisor. Thats if the envelope shows any external damage you can say it was the S&H carrier . its going to be a tough one but you can win. From my experience with asurion i had never had a problem . i have always reported my phones from at&t and sprint/nextel As lost or stolen , therefore they cannot demand a return on the phone. i have done it for over 4 years and have gotten over 5 thousand dollars in phones some i sold some where really lost or broken, but even if they was broken i still said lost or stolen. hope it helps for your next insurance experience.
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Well, I only had to talk to one person and they agreed that the phone was damaged after shipping, and removed the almost $500 charge.
Hurrah and thanks for the advice.
Which story is the truth?
The one here or the one on this Ebay listing?
Could be a coincedence. But if not that's pretty shady.
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Which story is the truth?
The one here or the one on this Ebay listing?
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They probably buy their red arrows at the same store.
recently my camera failed and the x1 went back to Sony, I've now had an email saying the phone is unrepairable and I have to pay £10 to have it returned unfixed.
I called them up and they say the mainboard is bent and not covered under warranty. The case is perfect, the screen is perfect and the phone has never been dropped etc.. They said this can happen even when the phone is in a pocket or bag but classed as accidental damage so not covered. They also said it's not a replacement part and I would need to buy a whole new phone, even if I was happy to pay for repair myself.
Is this right? Do they have to prove it was dropped? Is there no way of getting this fixed even if it costs me? Who can I complain to about this?
Thanks for any advice you can give..........
What country do you live in? And has this issue happened within 6 months?
If in the UK, you may be covered by 'The Sale of Goods Act 1979' if you believe the phone was not of satisfactory quality (plus a few others reasons). However as far as I know, this would protect you from the seller, not SE.
Put simply, goods are expected to last a reasonable amount of time within normal usage (which i would argue means keeping within your pocket). If it breaks within 6 months, it is the sellers responsibility to prove that it was fit for use at the time it was sold (very hard for them to do if others are working fine). After 6 months you have another 5.5 years (4.5 years in Scotland) where you are still protected but it your responsibility to prove the goods were unfit at the time of sale.
Might be worth a shot. Info can be found on the website for BBCs Watchdog TV program: http://www.bbc.co.uk/watchdog/consumer_advice/consumer_law_sale_of_goods_emp.shtml
thanks for that, unfortunately i've had it for about 9 months so SOGA won't be easy for me to prove. I just cant get how they say it has been damaged by me, there's no signs of dropping, the phone is absolutely mint! I'm very mad indeed
the same thing has just happened to me with vodafone in the uk.
phone was sent back to the service centre as some of the keys on the right-hand side of the keyboard were working intermittantly which i believe is a common issue.
the phone was returned to me with a blurry picture of what may or may not be the inside of my phone saying that the phone had been damaged and was not covered by warranty. my phone has never been dropped and has been very well take care of. :-(
I have asked that they escalate my complaint and I'll be getting a call back tomorrow but I don't hold out too much hope. Not quite sure what too do after that but I wont stop there, considering the cost of the phone originally it's taking the p***
sounds shocking. Good luck mate and what country are you in?
I have just picked my phone up from an o2 store after sending it off for repair, the keys only worked intermittently (as previously posted) along with a few other issues. I received t.he handset back with a "Beyond Economical Repair" diagnosis, claiming that i had somehow bent and cracked the motherboard due to physical damage. I had to instead claim from o2 insurance costing me £25. I think in the future its much better to contact Sony Ericsson directly.
I'm in the UK and today had a call back from the escalations team who just confirmed what I was told yesterday, basically bent board, not our problem, buy a new one. They will send it back for free though which I'm supposed to be grateful for.
I'm now going to take it to their director of support, when you look at the 1000+ posts about the cracks and another 2 replies in this thread about the 'bent mainboard' the manufacture of this phone is questionable to say the least and goes a long way to prove the sale of goods act 'unfit for purpose' rule. I'm happy to take this to civil court if needs be........I'm a principals man and I'm seriously pi**ed...
Can you send it back to Sony? Sony repaired my damaged screen/cracked casing for free in about 7 days
i think it depends on country, in my they even charge me changin the case, becouse "they didnt get any input about cracks in case". i show them xda thread with numeros complaining and no luck, had to pay...
I recently sent the phone back to change the keyboard and upgrading of firmware. I had to wait 3 weeks for a keyboard cos they went out of stock for it.
They even changed my cover that had some scratches without even me asking. Also the D-pad was changed cos of some peeling.
I thought that they gave me a reburbished set so I checked the IMEI, its ok. They even offered me an extended warranty program where I pay around 70SGD and it covers even accessories like headphones and such for a one-to-one exchange scheme.
This is SE Singapore Support.
Did any of you here swap your phone with HTC and your phone was unlocked?
My phone's defects are obviously hardware: Power button failing and Screen has a gap around sides, (Dust gathers around screen everyday, have to clean manually).
Can they charge me for unlocking and rooting it, even though these issues are hardware specific? Anyone has a story to share?
During the call, the HTC Rep told me that "we will charge your credit card for any non-warranty problems." Does unlocking count as one?
yes they will charge you for having your phone rooter,cause is out of the warranty that's what they told me over the phone...
I heard some Reps are unaware that HTC honors Hardware warranty. Maybe they said that to you because they are just reading a script that says "unlocking = void" I've read stories here that they still repair though. Is it true?
I just had my Nexus One (unlocked bootloader) replaced through HTC without a charge for a similar hardware defect. When I called, I didn't mention anything about it being rooted, nor did he ask. I received my replacement, HTC received my defective unit, and I was told my ticket was closed with no charge on my account.
The replacement I received has a new defect and I'm currently awaiting another replacement to swap it out as well. I don't think they care, but I wouldn't parade around talking about it. Just be courteous and flash everything back to stock as much as you can.
Ok, thanks for the info! It would be great if they didn't charge me for this.
Please keep us informed on how everything turns out. Several people have said they've had no trouble. It would be nice to get a list if reasons for RMA with success rate. I have a fairly strong feeling as long as it's hardware related and involves no root caused problem (led from n1 torch, speaker from louder music, etc.) the rate would be pretty high. HTC really, in all the times I've had any problems has been one of my favorite call centers to contact.
I have successfully swapped my phone. I had the dust under screen issue and i called them up. Not questions asked about unlocked. I got my phone and they waited a week or so and i saw my ticket was closed. Now im calling back because my replacement one now has dust under the screen also.
Did you guys get these phones new that you are able to do this?
I just bought my N1 used from someone and I'm wondering if this will apply to me if incase i get the dust issue
I have a question regarding replacement swapping as well.
My phone has the power button defect and I'd like to swap it for a new one.
However, I dropped my phone on asphalt recently and there are minor scuffs on 2 edges and a ding on the top left edge. Will this be a problem in swapping?
Will I get charged or something after they receive my phone? The defects are not related to me dropping it.
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Did you guys get these phones new that you are able to do this?
I just bought my N1 used from someone and I'm wondering if this will apply to me if incase i get the dust issue
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I got mine on Craigslist. I traded my Iphone 3gs for it. Wonderful trade. Android fanboy since G1, but wanted to see what all the hype was about for the iphone. I never saw it. haha.
So I called HTC. Told them the IMEI they asked if i still live blah blah address(the original owner). I told them nope. Gave them new address and name. They got my CC number and off we go. Got a replacement phone in 2 days. Sent the other one back. Case closed. All is good, until yesterday when I saw just under my replacement one also. Its been 3-4 weeks. Now i'm waiting for another replacement.
I got mine on craigslist too, not that AWESOME of a deal since i pretty much just got the phone (the charger barely charges) and the usb i got from a small cell store at a mall doesnt work...pfftt
so I need: Data cable, charger & car charger.
bleh
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I got mine on Craigslist. I traded my Iphone 3gs for it. Wonderful trade. Android fanboy since G1, but wanted to see what all the hype was about for the iphone. I never saw it. haha.
So I called HTC. Told them the IMEI they asked if i still live blah blah address(the original owner). I told them nope. Gave them new address and name. They got my CC number and off we go. Got a replacement phone in 2 days. Sent the other one back. Case closed. All is good, until yesterday when I saw just under my replacement one also. Its been 3-4 weeks. Now i'm waiting for another replacement.
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you didn't have to show proof or purchase/receipts?
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I have a question regarding replacement swapping as well.
My phone has the power button defect and I'd like to swap it for a new one.
However, I dropped my phone on asphalt recently and there are minor scuffs on 2 edges and a ding on the top left edge. Will this be a problem in swapping?
Will I get charged or something after they receive my phone? The defects are not related to me dropping it.
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I'd like to know the answer to this too. My phone has a stuck pixel but I also dropped it and now there is a crack in the screen. I'm wondering if they'll charge me for the swap.
I've had my N1 replaced almost 5 times, so I have some experience with this. Everything was perfect with my first phone except for one dead pixel, which was only visible from certain angles. However, considering the price that I paid for the phone, it wasn't acceptable from my perspective.
I read a lot about people having successes with replacements so I decided to do a swap. My recommendation is to think about doing a swap very carefully. Each time a replacement was sent to me, I found new problems with the phone.
For example, one replacement had a weak vibrate while another had a camera that took oversaturated photos. One of the phones had minor scratches on the screen. Another replacement turned out to be the replacement that was sent to me which I sent back (but with a different sticker and IMEI).
So I think that if the phone is not damaged significantly, such as huge cracks, they will not charge you any fees. So minor scratches on the phone and "normal use" damage is fine.
Also, if you purchased your phone from someone else, you will still be under the warranty and do swaps. I've asked this through the phone twice and both times I was told that they decided to honor warranty transfers.
HTC gave me a new one was well with unlocked bootloader. The problem with my phone was a software issue too. No questions asked.
This is great to hear.
I traded my iPhone 3GS for a N1 on craigslist only to discover it has some sort of hardware problem - Strange rebooting - not sure if it's heat related (doesn't seem so) or bad RAM (I've seen many reports). Went the replacement route (that's another story all together - http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=698156) and am awaiting the new unit. Just got my return shipping label, hopefully they wont charge me either!
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I heard some Reps are unaware that HTC honors Hardware warranty. Maybe they said that to you because they are just reading a script that says "unlocking = void" I've read stories here that they still repair though. Is it true?
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I had my Nexus One rooted and it was sent it to HTC for "power button failure" and they fixed it for no extra charge. Came back with a more firm-feeling power button and relocked.
They tried to charge me but after some reasoning with the right person on the phone they dropped the charge. You can also file a ticket with the Google Sales team and they will make sure you are not charged if you have a manufacturing defect unrelated to your phone being unlocked.
I bought mine from someone locally in salt lake, and after I had bought it, i noticed some dust under the screen. When I called HTC, they wouldn't replace the whole unit because there was an engraving on it. But they said they would send me a packing slip and i could send them the phone and they would take it apart and fix it. So hopefully it works.
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I bought mine from someone locally in salt lake, and after I had bought it, i noticed some dust under the screen. When I called HTC, they wouldn't replace the whole unit because there was an engraving on it. But they said they would send me a packing slip and i could send them the phone and they would take it apart and fix it. So hopefully it works.
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Hey, I would try calling HTC again and talk to another representative if you want to do a swap for a replacement; sometimes the customer representatives tell you what they know and so they give different responses.
The warranty specifically says:
If you have engraved your phone with a personal message, the device that you receive will not include the engraving, and the engraving on the defective device will not be sent back to you. If you want to keep your engraving, you can opt for the express repair option.
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That is, unless you want to keep the engraving.
Good luck!
I have an AT&T Note 3 that has suffered from water damage. What can I do to get this replaced? Will they mail a new one to me if I file a claim saying that it has been waterlogged?
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So a little while ago I checked all the water indicators and they were red still, so I took it to AT&T and they gave me a handout to file a claim with Asurion either by phone or online. They sent me back home and told me that Asurion will mail me a box, where I put my damaged phone in, along with the battery, and the SIM card. I tryed to submit a claim online, but it would not let me. It said that for my protection I would have to go on with the instructions on another phone. I will attempt to call them later once I have another phone in hand.
ALSO looks like I am going to have to pay the $199.99 deducatable. Asurion says that it will be replaced with new, like-new, or "other models of like kind and quality"
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Also in case you were wondering, if you are paying the standard $6.99 a month insurance, they will still replace your phone from water damage.
Don't take it into the store (they will send you right back out with a handout with Asurion), just file a claim with Asurion on the phone and have them send you a box, put your phone in it, mail it back, and they will send you one "overnight".
By insurance, do you mean regular warranty or are you paying the extra 9 bucks a month for their anything coverage? If you have the later just take it to a store and tell you have the extended insurance, the phone was dropped in water and you want a replacement. They should replace their on the spot. If you do it through mail, then they will wait till they receive your damaged one before sending you a new one. They will use your old one to refurb and sell as a refurb. They will not send a new one in the mail till they get the old one. Best option is do it in person.
Now if you just have the standard warranty then you are out a phone as it does not cover water damage rather accidental or not.
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I have an AT&T Note 3 that has suffered from water damage. What can I do to get this replaced? Will they mail a new one to me if I file a claim saying that it has been waterlogged?
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Assuming your talking about Asurion, yes. The deductible is pretty high though if I remember correctly.
RIght now I am paying the $9 insurance from AT&T. Would I have to take it into the store or file a claim online?
I went through this last month myself and it is the main reason I switched to Square Trade for my insurance needs.
1. If you have the Mobile Protection Plan IE. you pay the extra $9.99 per month, and you go to into an AT&T store, they are not going to give you a new phone on the spot. AT&T will put you on the phone with an insurance representative from Assurion who is the company that handles AT&T insurance claims. The Assurion rep will get some info from you and then Assurion will overnight (FedEx) you a refurnished phone and a labeled box with which to return your damaged phone.
2. You will receive a 'like new' phone.
3. You will be billed a $200.00 deductible for the phone you receive.
4. You will have 10 days to mail back the damaged phone or you will be billed $750.00.
The reps at Assurion have an average IQ of 85 and are not very nice, so listen up. You may also notice that all the female reps have names like Cherry, Porche, Candy and such. Draw whatever conclusions you want from this.
1. Take photos of everything before you send the phone back - the box, its contents, the phone, the labels et al.
2. Make sure you save the receipt you get from the post office when they scan the label as it will have the tracking numbers and such. It is also proof positive you at least mailed the label back.
3. Once you mail the box back, wait 3 days and then start humping Assurions leg asking them if they are tracking your shipped phone. I recommend recording the calls if it's legal where you live. If you can't record the calls, then take detailed notes.
4. Anticipate harassing texts, emails and automated phone calls reminding you to send the damaged phone back. You will get these at all hours; day and night.
If you do the above you will have the evidence needed to defend yourself when Assurion claims they never got your phone and that you never shipped it as they tried to do with me and a buddy of mine just last month.
And before I forget, make sure you make the person from Assurion you are speaking with initially tell you twice what model phone they are sending you. They sent me the wrong phone two times.
The only good thing that came out of my AT&T insurance experience was that AT&T was so horrified by Assurions conduct that I was given family text messaging free for 6 months ($180 value) and an additional $20 off per month from my bill for as long as I am an AT&T customer.
Nothing like an Assurion rep cussing at an AT&T store manager and then hanging up on her to bolster your case.
I thought if you lose your phone they'll still send you another one. Declare it stolen or lost, isn't it easier?
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slimslim said:
I thought if you lose your phone they'll still send you another one. Declare it stolen or lost, isn't it easier?
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What you're suggesting is insurance fraud, which is a crime.
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What you're suggesting is insurance fraud, which is a crime.
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Agree, but in tis particular case the op stated that the phone suffered water damage, don't think there's much to repair or save from it. With water resistant devices is a different story as the internal components and the mainboard are still coated and somehow protected. Now if you run over your device with your truck what sense it makes to send it back to Asurion and risking of being billed the full amount if someone misplace or loses it.
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Thanks that really helped @JACK4HIRE
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I thought if you lose your phone they'll still send you another one. Declare it stolen or lost, isn't it easier?
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I can't speak to how AT&T and or Assurion would handle the 'loss' of a phone versus a damaged phone. I do know that part of the Mobile Protection Pack is a locator service to help a client with a lost or stolen phone locate it. I believe that AT&T would attempt to locate the phone prior to issuing a replacement.
'Lost' is a very subjective term and I would think that as long as the phone was actually 'lost' there wouldn't be a problem. 'Lost' can mean you snapped the phone in two and then threw it in the trash bin at the grocery store never to see it again. As long as you don't still possess the phone and then claim that it is lost, there is no 'fraud'.
Having said that; I don't really see the purpose of claiming the phone is lost versus damaged as you're still going to get the same marginal customer service, the same iffy replacement and a $200.00 ding on you next bill from AT&T whether you claim water damage or loss.
It's always best to keep things above board even if you screwed up and have to eat it. Companies do refer charges to the police and people do get arrested and prosecuted for fraud, insurance and otherwise, all the time.
Just my $0.02.
Let us know how it goes.
I will not report it lost. It has water damage so water damage it is. Thanks though guys.
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I can't speak to how AT&T and or Assurion would handle the 'loss' of a phone versus a damaged phone. I do know that part of the Mobile Protection Pack is a locator service to help a client with a lost or stolen phone locate it. I believe that AT&T would attempt to locate the phone prior to issuing a replacement.
'Lost' is a very subjective term and I would think that as long as the phone was actually 'lost' there wouldn't be a problem. 'Lost' can mean you snapped the phone in two and then threw it in the trash bin at the grocery store never to see it again. As long as you don't still possess the phone and then claim that it is lost, there is no 'fraud'.
Having said that; I don't really see the purpose of claiming the phone is lost versus damaged as you're still going to get the same marginal customer service, the same iffy replacement and a $200.00 ding on you next bill from AT&T whether you claim water damage or loss.
It's always best to keep things above board even if you screwed up and have to eat it. Companies do refer charges to the police and people do get arrested and prosecuted for fraud, insurance and otherwise, all the time.
Just my $0.02.
Let us know how it goes.
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slimslim said:
I thought if you lose your phone they'll still send you another one. Declare it stolen or lost, isn't it easier?
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JACK4HIRE said:
I can't speak to how AT&T and or Assurion would handle the 'loss' of a phone versus a damaged phone. I do know that part of the Mobile Protection Pack is a locator service to help a client with a lost or stolen phone locate it. I believe that AT&T would attempt to locate the phone prior to issuing a replacement.
'Lost' is a very subjective term and I would think that as long as the phone was actually 'lost' there wouldn't be a problem. 'Lost' can mean you snapped the phone in two and then threw it in the trash bin at the grocery store never to see it again. As long as you don't still possess the phone and then claim that it is lost, there is no 'fraud'.
Having said that; I don't really see the purpose of claiming the phone is lost versus damaged as you're still going to get the same marginal customer service, the same iffy replacement and a $200.00 ding on you next bill from AT&T whether you claim water damage or loss.
It's always best to keep things above board even if you screwed up and have to eat it. Companies do refer charges to the police and people do get arrested and prosecuted for fraud, insurance and otherwise, all the time.
Just my $0.02.
Let us know how it goes.
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Guys, this is just plain illegal and is not allowed on XDA at all. It's not that hard to just send your damaged phone in. Parts can be salvaged off the phone water damaged or not. It doesn't take that much effort to just send the phone to them.
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So a little while ago I checked all the water indicators and they were red still, so I took it to AT&T and they gave me a handout to file a claim with Asurion either by phone or online. They sent me back home and told me that Asurion will mail me a box, where I put my damaged phone in, along with the battery, and the SIM card. I tryed to submit a claim online, but it would not let me. It said that for my protection I would have to go on with the instructions on another phone. I will attempt to call them later once I have another phone in hand.
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I will not report it lost. It has water damage so water damage it is. Thanks though guys.
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Thank you for doing the right thing! This is what insurance is for.
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kennyglass123 said:
Thank you for doing the right thing! This is what insurance is for.
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+1 on that thank you!